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A hero speaks

All of us should listen

69 comments

A hero speaks

POSTED: Friday, November 16, 2012, 12:21 PM

There’s been a lot of talk about ‘coming together’ in the wake of a very divisive election.

That’s disingenuous talk, especially from the mouths of those who voted for a man who used the politics of divide and conquer to win re-election.

But don’t listen to me.  Listen to a hero, a man who spent seven years in a Prisoner of War camp in Vietnam.  This is someone who knows what it means to long for freedom, and who has some specific ideas about peace as well.

Read what he has to say, and then see if you can stomach the Kumbaya chorus from the winning team.

 

Christine Flowers @ 12:21 PM  Permalink | 69 comments
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Comments  (69)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:49 PM, 11/18/2012
    You raging idiot. I did vote. And for President, I cast my vote for the Green Party. I am disgusted with the 2 major parties and the Billions that went into these campaigns that ended up changing nothing. I refuse to hold my nose to cast a vote just because it is a D or R. And I support any third party as much as I can. Sorry that you're such a bitter loser.
    MrsSimon
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:42 PM, 11/18/2012
    Mrs. Simon, you have proved my point. Your vote was wasted, the same as if you did not vote. Next time write-in for the man in the moon.

    It is you who rage, but over nothing of value.

    When you have finished raging, try saying something useful, something you can be proud of, something Mr. Simon can applaud, something objective.
    PlumberJoe
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:59 AM, 11/19/2012
    The Green Party Lost the election, true. The Repubs also lost. So was your voted also wasted???
    carl and sons
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:09 PM, 11/19/2012
    you cannot be as stupid as you sound.
    PlumberJoe
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:24 PM, 11/19/2012
    My fear is that you ARE as stupid as you sound, and running around unsupervised yet.
    carl and sons
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:01 AM, 11/19/2012
    OK, McCain survived a horrible experience in a POW camp and gave only his name rank and serial number, and by some combination of luck and pluck survived. He deserves credit for that.

    But he also dumped his wife, married filthy rich, owns 100 homes and consistently aligns himself with his new social club against the interests of 98% of Americans. He ran for president and insulted and endangered the whole nation by choosing an abject fool as his running mate. Now he's aiding and abetting the Fox News Benghazi Network in ginning up a controversy against the man who defeated him for president. The personal animus is obvious.

    There comes a time to many "heroes" when their halo tarnishes. McCain's has practically crumbled into dust. He's reached the tipping point where he's harmed this country more than helped it.
    carl and sons
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:50 AM, 11/19/2012
    and Sons, let's see if you have it in you to be sensible and reasonable.

    This piece is not about McCain, even though it echoes his point to further investigate the events subsequent to the siege of the Libyan consulate. So McCain's history is inconsequential.

    What is paramount is to make public how and why and who changed the intelligence reports to mislead the American audience. Calling the altered version talking points and justifying their erroneous content as mere script, is the issue. Pravda was the organ of the Soviet Party. It was used to lie to and deceive the Russian people. Talking Points, in this instance, served a comparable purpose.

    So if you want to debate the issue, try your hand at that. Let us see if you can, or whether you are simply hot air, looking for a fight.
    PlumberJoe
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:19 PM, 11/19/2012
    Excuse me for not accepting your authority to frame the debate.

    The intro to the link tells me that I should listen to McCain on this issue because he was a POW for 7 years. So yes, it is about McCain to a great extent. McCain, thanks to his own actions, is at this point just another partisan politician whose words carry no more truth or honor than the rest of them.

    Similarly Fox News and Pravda are two sides of the same coin aren't they? Party organs, (lower intestines I think, considering their output), whose purpose is to lie to and deceive the more gullible citizens.
    carl and sons
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:31 PM, 11/19/2012
    and sons, you are a fraud.

    You cannot handle a challenge and hide behind your weasel words.

    You have learned well from Obama. When you cannot answer the question, be sure to change the subject.
    PlumberJoe
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:39 PM, 11/19/2012
    BTW, sons, you err on McCain's history.

    You need to brush up before you stumble on. He was a true hero back in Nam.

    And his family life is no more a part of this issue, than Clinton's dalliances or his current home life, or JFK's or FDR's, as pertained to their politics and pleas.
    PlumberJoe
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:39 PM, 11/19/2012
    I guess that just means you are going to have to find someone else to argue with or sit there and fume.
    carl and sons
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:45 PM, 11/19/2012
    sons, as you have many times before, you duck the rejoinder when it is beyond your ability.

    I do not fume over you. "Laugh" would be the appropriate word.
    PlumberJoe
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:31 PM, 11/19/2012
    It is rather humorous seeing Ms. Flowers lecture people on "divide and conquer." Before going off pointing out that speck in someone else's eye I would suggest you tend to the telephone pole in your own.
    Ed G
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:56 PM, 11/19/2012
    In keeping with the general maturity of their philosophy, the tea party version of an argument seems to consist of "I'm rubber, you're glue..." or "I know you are but what am I?"
    carl and sons
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:25 PM, 11/19/2012
    There's no question that Senator Mc Cain is a hero. That being said, it's time to acknowledge his deficiencies in commenting on foreign affairs. He has never met a war he doesn't like. He has been wrong on every position he has taken on foreign affairs. E.g., he sat in a tent with Khadafy and said America should support him with aid. He swallowed the Iraq lies without independent thought, and if he had won the election we wouild still be at war with Iran. His ravings about Benghazi are not founded on facts, as he had a press conference to toot his own horn instead of attending a briefing for Congressional leaders. On domestic issues, he went from a sane position on immigration to the Arizona insanity to appease the "tea party". He has become a vindictive, angry, old man who, as I have said before, should take General McArthur's advice, and just fade away.
    lport


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