The hateful harbingers of 'change'
I fear for us, these next four years
The hateful harbingers of 'change'
Charles Krauthammer
Two of my good lady lawyer friends, smart and conservative and courageous, recently made me aware of just how low some liberals will sink when they are drunk on pyrrhic victory.
Linda Kerns, a tenacious defender of the right to vote, posted on her Facebook page a link to a recent Fox News Story involving Martin Bashir, Charles Krauthammer, and hateful hypocrisy. Commenting on Krauthammer’s appearance on Fox after the election, Bashir quipped to his MSNBC audience that ““Now I need to apologize to any young viewers who may have been frightened by that face.”
“That face” is one that poignantly reflects in its features the peerless courage of a man who was paralyzed while in medical school, completed his Harvard degree, became a certified member of the American Board of Psychology and Neurology and, in his free time, picked up a Pulitzer Prize for commentary in 1987.
Bashir, a British journalist of Pakistani descent, is not the first media liberal to criticize the revered conservative pundit. He is simply the latest, and in his petty and pathetic commentary proves just how unhinged, to borrow a phrase from Michelle Malkin, the institutional Left has become. They are so concerned with tolerance, but find nothing at all wrong with ridiculing a man who lives a daily calvary and neither complains nor seeks justification. I wonder what would happen if I were to make fun of Bashir’s skin color, his funny accent or his foreign status.
Actually, I don’t have to wonder.
And then comes my beloved friend Tara, champion of the unborn and a tireless defender of at-risk children (and a mother of five of her own) who tells me of the craziness she’s seen on Facebook postings, where rabid females wild with the blood lust of electoral victory see fit to make comments like “Paul Ryan is a Douchebag,” “Paul Ryan is Evil,” “Paul Ryan is a Bitch Puppet,” “Republicans are Morally and Mentally Challenged,” and of course the usual liberal catch phrase “Theocracy was dealt a crushing blow yesterday. Let's *keep* it that way.”
I know that conservatives can be offensive. I hate some of what passes for educated punditry on the right. And I am not, I repeat not, a fan of Ann Coulter (who at least, however, knows how to spell.)
But when you see what disgusting things have arisen from the damp, post-election earth, you have to wonder where our country is headed, with such as this in the driver’s seat.
Wonder, and shudder.
Comments (53)
That's the face of a bitter, nasty, war-mongering racist, a man driven by nothing but a personal animus for Obama. A man who spent years sitting in his chair at Fox and cheer-led the Bush wars. A man who shares blame for the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, a man with blood on his hands. I'm not surprised krauthammer is a "revered" pundit, after all you have Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, and the rest of the clowns (in the John Wayne Gacy sense).
I like Bashir. He's funny, and he's on the right side. More power to him.— carl and sons- Having read much of Krauthammer's opinions, it is his words which frighten me more than his face. Considering the comparisions he's made on those who disagree with him, Bashir's comment on Krauthammer's face (which was not directed at his disability) is very much deserved.— Lancer248
Speaking of harbingers, presidential lies are harbingers to presidential resignations.
Nixon, Watergate. Obama, Benghazi.— PlumberJoe- O yes, Gendres, what a full-throated condemnation that was! So bold and so brave. And what a complete and utter joke.
Ms. Flowers proudly declared her changed affiliation to a member of the Republican party a few months ago. This is a party who in its modern incarnation began its electoral successes with the Southern Strategy and as recently as a few election cycles ago, they were using irrational fears of gay people in ballot questions on gay marriage to drive wedges in the electorate. Their entire electoral philosophy has been to win through denigration of groups to bolster their support. And she has proudly aligned herself with this group. And it has not ended with this group, either, painting Barack Obama as the other by whatever means necessary (Kenyan, Muslim, marxist, socialist) and dehumanizing Michelle Obama so it was okay and fashionable to mock her (Moochelle anyone?).
So really, for Ms. Flowers to complain about what Martin Bashir said is truly a pathetic comparison to what the right has said and she is a joke for trying to do this. But you will defend her because she makes use of the pathetic technique of mildly calling out someone on her side as well so that she does not seem like a hypocrite.
I'm not buying. Liberals have been mocked and called names for decades and are finally starting to stand up and give back what they get and now Ms. Flowers clutches at her pearls about the lack of civility? Get over it... if you wanted to any credibility, you should have been condemning this activity when it was your party doing it... not once it started happening to you as well.— Ed G 
That's right Gendres, these darn libruls need to Lighten Up. I've been called a Pinhead on these boards many times. Does it bother me? HECK no, because well, look at me: I AM a pinead!- Ed, a word please. If you read over the next to last paragraph of this piece it says quite clearly:
"I know that conservatives can be offensive. I hate some of what passes for educated punditry on the right. And I am not, I repeat not, a fan of Ann Coulter (who at least, however, knows how to spell.)"
I think that qualifies as a criticism of the right. (Even Charles called those politicians who commented insensitively about rape - "morons".)
We all need to "lighten up" and see the humor and satire in the whole political scene.
And I am not a far right conservative.
8-)— Gendres - G, you know Flowers doesn't really condemn her own side. She is the worst, nastiest, partisan hack ever...besides Ann Coulter (whom she evidently longs to be).
Also, there's never any actual humor in a Flowers piece...just sad, pathetic, unfunny "humor."
Flowers needs to go and your sickening sycophancy needs to stop, too. It's all quite barfalicious.— sophistry - Chris, I left one last comment on your op-ed board, in defense of those like my husband who defended wirh their blood the freedom of speech that you (and Charles) exercise on these platforms.
There is not much on which we disagree but we have to have forums like this in which to air and debate our ideas.
Like you, I will not be silent.
Bella, un lavoro ben fatto
And a prayer for the battered Birds.
8-(— Gendres - Really? Did I miss something? Because Krauthammer is one ugly dude. That takes nothing away from his intellect or his accomplishments, but you already know that. You're just looking for something fake to be outraged about. And conservatives are always complaining about how liberals need to lighten up and get a sense of humor. Right. I'll believe you actually care about this the next time you castigate ANYONE on the right who does something similar. Lord knows there are plenty of options for you to choose from.— Ed G
- Christine does not mind Coulter calling the President the "r" word. My guess is that she often calls him the "n" word. Or maybe she calls him a barking dog like Dumba** Joe. I guess calling the POTUS an animal is ok when he is a mulatto, right Joe? How's that landslide and Tsunami working for ya?— Ogey Oglethorpe
- Hey Chris. Remember that Romney rally in Bucks County? Romney stiffed the police, EMTs and firefighters that worked that night. Isn't just like a Republican to skip out on the bill.— The Fundamentals of the Economy are Fine
- So, Ms. Flowers chooses to make hay out of low brow commentary about Mr. Krauthammer based on Martin Bashir and on the right in general from Facebook. (??!!) The fact that I am taking time to comment on this … umm … nonsense, is I guess a poor reflection on me, but here I go ... Flowers has spent a good deal of space here denigrating the left with her petty school girl hair pulling. In a bizarre defense of Krauthammer, who’s platform eclipses Flowers localized and sadly irrelevant dim bulb reach, with an, albeit un-PC description –( something of which she is a BIG champion), she refuses to acknowledge that dear Charles is quite the adroit liar and propagandist and nothing much more, as the blistering rebuke of his 4 year demented tirade against “blackish” Obama has been dealt with the recent election. The right has become so (comically, hilariously, sadly, dangerously, fatally) unhinged, that they cannot get past or even comprehend just how seriously the majority of voters in this country have forcefully rejected their ideology, their BS, their hate, their anti-American stupidity and their masochistic counter-productivity. Cry, babies. Then wake the eff up! Get real or get left behind. And get the message: America isn’t what you think it is, it’s much better than your retro and distorted view of it! HELLO – 2012 just came calling- loud and clear. Repubs – you do not know your country. But the country knows you. And you got slapped – severely .— Independence
- OK, scooby, "Trente" Harris! Ring any bells? Huh? Huhh?
- Yes scooby, "Harris' back" is your first clue. But which Harris is it? Is it the legendary Franco Harris? Barbara Harris (Miss South Carolina, 1967)? Sam Harris, Eric Harris (Columbine High School Massacre), Harrison Ford, or (my favorite) George Maharis?
- Harris, 25 million unemployed are looking for hope and change. And all they have is 4 years of failure, trillions more debt and a bunch of unused shovels.
Trente.— PlumberJoe - snacks, you have no intelligent fans. Only Harris is in cahoots with you.
Enjoy your sea voyage on the U.S.S. Titanic, steered by Captain Obama through the ever darkening seas.
Have a look at Harris' back and see what glows in the snark.— PlumberJoe - I found your landslide. It was of the electoral variety. Florida makes 332 to 206. A 126 EV rout. On that, sir, you may suck.— scoobysnacks
- scoobysnacks, I can't suck. My chin, my jaw is congenitally weak. Because of this birth defect, I wasn't able to ingest nourishment as an infant, which gave me shrunken-head syndrome. Hence, my brain ain't growed.
- snacks, who cares where your question is directed. It is an ignorant question.
Your snark disqualifies you from asking any question.
But a real question to ask is where did Romney lose votes and how can these votes be turned around in the 2014 and 2016 elections. Yet, there is no need to ask these questions, as the man of the hour, Krauthammer, has already answered them.— PlumberJoe - scoobysnacks, I, too, am offended by the R-word. I prefer to be called "neuron-deficient," or "cranially cramped," or "low-leverage lobed," or "brain waves at low tide."
Thank you. - Offended comes from within. Only a weak mind is offended. It is natural that you are offended. — PlumberJoe
- Back to my question, which is directed to Christine and Christine only, where is the rebuke of Ann Coulter's use of the R-word toward the president? Prove that you are, as Gendres says, consistent.— scoobysnacks
The Right, on the other hand, are truly wonderful:
"The National Organization for Marriage (NOM) have vowed to make Starbucks (along with other companies that support same-sex marriage) pay a 'price' in Middle Eastern countries that are hostile to lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) rights."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/11/starbucks-gay-marriage-support-nom-condemns_n_2113930.html- HEY! ChrisElliottWasRight, I resemble that remark!
- Fascinating and quite complimentary, mirror images. Day and Night, Right and Wrong, Up and Down, Good and Evil, Right and Left. You and I.
The pendulum went past the apex to a new apex. It will swing back, faster, harder, with more enduring change. Read here, digest well. Krauthammer has spoken. Try hard to understand and profit-
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-the-way-forward/2012/11/08/6592e302-29d8-11e2-96b6-8e6a7524553f_story.html— PlumberJoe - wasRight, a long time back, before the 16th century, most people were uneducated. They lived lives of quiet desperation. They died young, often hungry. Science and medicine were ne'er existent. The clergy and the aristocracy had it good. And the rest served them in one way or another.
And then, along came July 4, 1776 and democracy was born in America.
You, wasRight, are a throwback to the dark ages. You are basically uneducated, a fool, a jester. You have nothing to contribute. You are a bully, a troll, a rather useless person.
Now you can easily prove me wrong. All you need do is to write something of value. But you won't. You can't. All you can do is mock. Any fool can mock. Only an educated, useful person can contribute meaningful dialogue. Go ahead. Prove me wrong.
— PlumberJoe 
I may be 'wrong' about Christine/PJ (we'll never know), but I'll never be as wrong or as much of a loser as: "landslide/tsunami". Never. PJ will always be the joke of the comments. Keep on keepin'.— ChrisElliottWasRight- Today is a patriotic holiday, Veterans' Day, and it seems few are noticing. As Christine writes, we are still divided and feelings are sharp. But we can move on and let's start by thanking those who gave their blood, sweat and tears to make our nation great.
Listen to this hymn by Sibelius. And let's have peace.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDXNHPeRB0k— Gendres - Romney still has a chance, scooby, because I demand a recount. I might not be on TV, like Flowers, but I'm pretty darn important.
- Harris, here comes Benghazi-gate. — PlumberJoe
- Is that what Dick Morris told you? Be gone, wisp! — ChrisElliottWasRight
- Gendres, wasRight = never right; actually, wasRight is always wrong.— PlumberJoe
- Gendres, wasRight = never right; actually, wasRight is always wrong.— PlumberJoe
- WasRight- IsWRONG.
LOL
Hope all go out into the sun today.
Happy Veterans' Day to all veterans!— Gendres - Well, like Henry Hill says in Goodfellas: Everybody takes a beating now and then.
- The screeching harpie is at it again. No credibility, especially on this subject, until you look in the mirror, first, and call out your role models like Malkin. Are you serious with this rant?! It's about Facebook for crying out loud. Malkin, et. al. have prominent media platforms to spew their equally foul venom. BTW - Christine is Plumber Joe. Who else would comment on posts that have nothing to do with "him" and notice that "he" comments only on posts that directly refer or address the author, using the same thin-skinned, hysterical nonsense the "columnist" does. Flowers is a joke and so is her alter-ego, the reflective and transparent "Plumber Joe".— ChrisElliottWasRight
- scooby - if you want to challenge anyone else's credibility, you must first establish your own. PJ knows exactly what he is doing...he got your attention, didn't he?
Hypocrisy indicates inconsistency - a moving target. You cannot debate with someone who changes his mind all the time.
Miss Flowers, whether you agree with her or not, has been totally consistent in her positions. Even her critics object to her specific points of view.
In the marketplace of ideas, all points of view should be tolerated, exchanged and debated. Personal attacks should not.
And nothing stops you from starting your own blog.
Now of course, some will attack me for being a fan.
I could care less.
— Gendres - In my life I discovered early on that the most intolerant people are "tolerant" liberals. The liberals on MSNBC, and their fans, constantly prove me correct.— Thoughtful&concernedvoter
- Plumber, It's cute how you care how much about what I think. I wasn't even addressing you. You are of no importance or interest to me, except as a mere jester, a fool, at which after Tuesday we collectively laugh. You have become a laughingstock and your credibility is nil.
My comment above was addressed to Flowers, who, while I dislike and don't agree with her, does matter. She gets a forum to espouse her bull in print and on television. She is a hypocrite and she needs to admit it.
— scoobysnacks - I agree entirely with ELK.
(I also do not participate in FACEBOOK. It would only give me aceta.)
IMHO, the huge miscalculation by the GOP was that they could win votes by paying inordinate attention to cultural issues and by signaling their intention to change the court.
Romney's cavalier attitude about the "47%" did not help.
Chris, I know you feel we missed a chance to champion the rights of the unborn, but we do not know that for sure. Certainly all of us who are child advocates can continue to work for justice on behalf of at risk children. There are many ways to accomplish that.
My approach is to keep early childhood education alive for all at risk children. (Corbett's budget cuts threaten that program.) I consider good pre-K education to be life-saving without a doubt.
I am also for comprehensive sex education as a primary abortion prevention method.
There is more than one way to solve a problem.
Hope all get out in the sunshine this glorious weekend.— Gendres - thanks, snacks, you have made the point.— PlumberJoe
- Tell us more about the landslide, princess.— scoobysnacks
- snacks, your question is reasonable. And your demeanor provides a perfect answer.
Krauthammer is a million times the person that you are. He has learning, he has manners, he has his point of view, but most of all he does not vent vile anger.
You are none of these things. IN fact you are the opposite of each of them. Why would anyone want to write about you, other than to show how not to be. Your behavior, as you put it, is obnoxious. Totally obnoxious. YOU offer nothing. You are at best a foil.
Krauthammer has earned a defense. You have earned nothing.— PlumberJoe - Lets talk about Hypochrissy here. Interesting to note that our author is "no fan" of Ann Coulter. But where was the outrage when Ms. Coulter called the President of the United States the "R-word?" I don't recall Flowers writing about that at all. Tell us, Flowers, why do you only get offended enough to blog about obnoxious behavior if it comes from the liberal side?— scoobysnacks
- EIK, some people are gracious, some are ignorant. It is easy to know the difference.
The meek shall inherit the earth, but only after they learn to stand their ground. And bullies are not to be tolerated.
If Bashir were as smart as he believes he is, he would not be a bully.
Krauthammer is first and foremost a conservative. He has impeccable manners. And he knows clearly what he believes and can express himself fully eloquently. He needs no help. Few could provide more help than he can, himself.— PlumberJoe - I think both some right and some left wing commentators need to clean up their language and show some respect.
I don't remember an occasion that I have agreed with Mr. Krauthammer, but I don't think his appearance should ever be made fun of or even be an issue. Mr. Bashir was very wrong when he did that.
Why can't so many people criticize and disagree with someone's opinions without reducing the discussion to calling names or making fun of a person's appearance/speech/education/intelligence?
Why can't some people stay away from cheap shots?
Why can't we in general remember to treat people the way we want to be treated? This is something I will never understand!— EIK - Keep up the good work. You are well respected among people who have a real education and have worked hard to live an honest life. I enjoy your commentary and really appreciate your honesty. I am tired of trying to make sense out of nonsense and the repulsive blogs I've read before and after the election just show how ignorant and mean people can be. Thank GOD the entire country isn't this cruel and there are still people who care about human life and values.— dsheehan
- If we need to make fun and ridicule to get a point across, then let's start with that funny looking barking dog known as the president, shovel ready Barack.— PlumberJoe
- Its a good thing Bashir has probably never watched Inside Story.— scoobysnacks
- You're pulling quotes from Michelle Malkin to prove your threory on a hateful and ignorant left. That's classic. I have no words.... I hope this is only published digitally and we arent wasting trees for this nonsense.— shamdog
- yes Martin Bashir likes insulting right wingers. who doesn't?
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