Susan Sarandon is a boob...two, actually
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Susan Sarandon is a boob...two, actually
An inflated sense of self
I used to like Susan Sarandon the “Ac-TRESS.” You know, the serious “THES-pian” who did an amazing job as Sister Helen Prejean in “Dead Man Walking,” an interesting piece of propaganda against capital punishment (I didn’t appreciate the message, but she was grand, nonetheless.) She was also amazing in Bull Durham (both of her,) and nabbed a boyfriend of almost two decades in the process. And of course, I loved Rocky Horror Picture Show, where virginal Janet (boy was that not typecasting) sings and swings with the best of them.
But as a person, Sarandon never struck me as particularly intelligent. She said all of the right things for Hollywood (which of course were as far to the left as you could get,) and didn’t sound like a fill-in from Jersey Shore (not all Italian women think the plural of ‘you’ takes an ‘s’) but her ability to treat opposing views with respect was woefully lacking. That, to me, is a sign of stupidity.
(And yes, it’s not just a liberal flaw.)
But Susie Q took the cake when she called Pope Benedict a Nazi the other day. While it is true that the Catholic Prelate was, for a brief time as a child, a member of the Hitler Youth, it is also true that he soon left the group putting both himself and his devout Catholic family at great risk.
Calling anyone a “Nazi” says more about the slanderer than the target of their ire, but in the case of Sarandon, it’s particularly telling. This is a woman who waxes poetic about human rights, women’s rights, tree rights (that’s environmentalism, for those who were wondering) and tolerance of all God’s children. But she finds it acceptable to defame a good man, one who has done considerably more to promote world peace than an over-the-hill-actress who has a rather inflated (ahem) sense of self.
If you ask me, Tim Robbins is lucky to be rid of her.
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MY point being, retour and PJ, that you cannot pigeonhole any Roman Catholic according to a set ideology, political movement or party. I am annoyed by such references since they do not apply like a shirt size to anyone.— Magistra- I am confused. Are you saying that I cannot read your comments and decide whether you lean left or right because you are Roman Catholic? I have read numerous comments of yours and reached the conclusion that you are quite liberal, but hold some (excellently heart-warming) traditional values. My previous comments stated that you should face up to who your fellow travellers are on the left. I said it was unfortunate that you have made common cause with the hard left, not that you are anti-religious and vulgar like Sarandon or Maher. I realize you have your own unique point of view, albeit very liberal. You have admitted as much. So what do you make of the overt anti-Semitism of the Occupiers, or will you be ducking that today?
Plumber: My point is Steisand is an example of a once in a lifetime talent. I can enjoy her music w/o even thinking about her loony politics. Tony Bennett just went 9/11 conspiracy. So what, I say ignore it, I love the guys singing. Woody has provided unforgetable laughs and movies, so I also ignore his frequent leftist blurbs. The lesson I take is: You must ignore ARTISTS politics or lose the ability to appreciate too many great artists. They are almost all lefties.— retour - Magistra, the term moderate progressive falls right in there with "half pregnant."— PlumberJoe
retour, you really are persuasive today. Yes, if I liked the work of an artist sufficiently, I would ignore his politics. For example, I could care less what Maynard Ferguson or Herb Alpert think politically. I can listen to their performances for hours.
Magistra is a kind person. She does not dwell in the hate fields as does the aforementioned Quartet. As such she has earned forgiveness. But as with all lefties, she can never be right, except when she is not thinking left.
For example, she believes in a living Constitution, as by her comments. That is an impossible situation. The Constitution is a contract. Contracts can be amended, but they are not living documents; they are continuing documents until void. Although a school teacher, she still has a lot to learn.— PlumberJoe- Retour, being a Catholic has its own unique identity as does allegiance to any religion. I am Catholic before I am anything else like Democrat or liberal. I am loyal to my Church and its principles and agree fundamentally with its doctrines. It is a human institution inspired by divine grace. That means it can sometimes err and does, but that it is always seeking to follow the example of its founder, Jesus Christ.
I do not recognize the term "fellow traveler" or have any co-ideology with everyone who professes to be liberal, conservative or whatever.
I am also not a libertarian, but today, as I was listening to Rand Paul at a Senate hearing on No Child Left Behind and his suggested amendment that the law be repealed because it is "broken," I could have planted a big wet kiss on his lips. (He knew he would be defeated but wanted his amendment put in the record.(
See, agreeing with him on this issue does not make me a closet libertarian. He even quoted from supporters in both parties and from liberals and conservatives.
I resist labels, is what I mean. I am indeed a unique thinker. I weigh the merits of all ideas against my personal view of the world.— Magistra - As far as anti-semitism in the Occupier movement, really, there is no monolithic viewpoint, but a lot of dusgruntled individuals, just as there are in the Tea Party movement, where I also saw banners declaring the president a Nazi.
I already told you I marched with Vietnam Veterans against the Iraq War but saw others in the march bearing signs that said, "Free Mumia". People just latched on to the march with their own pet peeves.
So of course I denounce anyone who carried a sign that was overtly anti-Semitic.
I have driven around City Hall several times and seen all kinds of signs and even a booth for Ron Paul. I did not see one sign that mentioned Jews. Most of them were themes like "Money for Education Not Prison".
You need to see that individuals do not fit stereotypes.— Magistra - But then again Magistra, there are some discussions that simply cannot proceed without using generalizations. Many people DO in fact fit stereotypes. Generally, the Occupiers are young disgruntled leftists and anarchists. This is a simple observable fact. On the other hand, Tea Partiers are generally older, more conservatives and libertarians with jobs and a sense of personal responsibility. TP people do not have weeks to camp out for no coherent purpose. Moreover, as PJ noted, the TP folks love the U.S. and want to improve it, whereas the Occupiers want to tear down the institutions of our country in pursuit of a Socialist Utopia. Just go read their signs! Or ask them. Are there exceptions to these generalizations, maybe so. But during my attendance at two TP and 3 visits to Camp Alinsky at City Hall I saw overwhelming evidence in support of the foregoing generalizations. These FleaBaggers are bad news and your Democrat Party embraces them at their great peril. — retour
- PJ of course there are moderate progressives. Your metaphor is simply inapplicable.— Magistra
- Speaking of movements, I guess you all have heard the news that Quadaffi is dead.— Magistra
- "retour, you really are persuasive today." Plumber: It is my observation that there are better and worse venues for reasonable debate and discussion. Notice how much more civil it is over here on Christine's blog. It doesn't take a genius to realize this is due to the absence of TC and Hamblin. Even when you or I don't respond directly, their invective distracts from my goal of writing a comment germane to an issue raised by CFs article. I believe I have kept my pledge on last week's article, but near the end, you broke down. Even Chris wrote back to TC. I think we should do everything to discourage their participation unless they post a civil and substantive comment. In the past, I feel like I have lowered myself to get involved in petty arguments with them.
Now, I will scan up the page toward Sarandon's cleavage again before reurning to work.
P.S. BTW, what do you think is the motivation of the Leftist Quadrangle? I occassionally leave a comment on Will Bunch's page, but I do not wait for his articles or live on his comment page. Also, there may be something to your identity theory because unless I summon him, the so-called Jim Harris no longer comments.— retour - retour, in my opinion the "leftist quadrangle" are bullies. Bullies like to have fun via mockery. Bullies contribute nothing. There is no reasoning with bullies.
I will take no notice of them, hence forth. You can take that to the bank. Bullies play many games. One of those games is to suddenly be nice. And after you fall into that trap, they then play 'gotcha.' It matters not whether they are one person or four. Their menu has the same garbage on it.— PlumberJoe - You three, you happy three, you band of brothers (and sister) okay, I'm waxing Henry the Vish today, are fabulous. I love watching you argue (in the best sense of that word) with each other. Magistra my darling, I do understand that the patriarchy in the church wrought some terrible things, but it also allowed some amazing women to flourish in the bosom (ooops, Sarandon on the mind) church..stay tuned tomorrow to find out what I'm talking about. Retour, brilliant today, and sorry for not indicating that you sent me the Sarandon link. And PJ, you are beguiling as ever. And Philly's contribution is pithy, concise and, as always (even when I don't agree with him) truly rich (again, in the best sense of the word) My thanks, to all.— Christine
- And retour, you are right. Except for the occasional troll who trickles in here, I think this blog is a haven for smart minds and good arguments, whereas the column does tend to attract some people who would qualify under Section 302 of the Pennsylvania Mental Health Code...— Christine
- Magistra, there are two views. Forget the terms liberal, conservative and all the others that get thrown into the mix. That just causes confusion.
View one believes in the rule book- the Constitution is a fixed, non living document.
View two believes in a hodge podge- it picks and chooses to suit.
Imagine a baseball game where the rules apply in the odd numbered innings and you make up the rules in the even numbered innings. It will not work.— PlumberJoe - I am late returning to this board. (Besides, one of my better posts never made it!)
Dear Chris, you always have kind things to say. In some ways we could have swapped places, with you in the old pre-VII church and me, well, where I am today. Women like Teresa of Avila flourished not because of the patriarchs but in spite of them. The feminine side of the church was expressed by calling her Mother and Teacher in the spirit of the Wisdom.
In fact it was my beloved John XXIII in his encyclical "Mater et Magistra" who outlined the duties and responsibilities of the church and society to effect social justice. "...consequently, if the organization and structure of economic life be such that the human dignity of workers is compromised, or their sense of responsibility is weakened, or their freedom of action is removed, then we judge such an economic order to be unjust, even though it produces a vast amount of goods, whose distribution conforms to the norms of justice and equity" (MM, 83).
— Magistra
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