Physicians are not overpaid
Everyone likes to complain about how much money doctors make. Many people hear the word "physician" and equate it with a mansion, BMW, and lavish vacation. But physicians don't make nearly as much as you think.
Physicians are not overpaid
Everyone likes to complain about how much money doctors make. Many people hear the word “physician” and equate it with a mansion, BMW, and lavish vacation. But physicians don’t make nearly as much as you think.
After finishing high school, physicians spend a minimum of 11 years in training. Specialized physicians train even longer, sometimes for as long as 20 years. These are years spent making no money while in school, or making very little money during residency and fellowship. And by the time these individuals are “real” physicians, they are already in their mid-to-late thirties and have spent years struggling financially to support themselves and their families.
During the three to seven years of medical residency, physicians in training who abide by the maximum 80-hour-work-week mandated by the Joint Commission make approximately $11 an hour before taxes. Some residents impermissibly work over 100 hours a week, which makes their hourly wage even lower. Many residents travel to numerous different hospitals, cover the cost of their own gas, and even have to pay for parking at the hospitals where they work. Residents pay hundreds of dollars to attend conferences to improve their knowledge in their area of practice and thousands of dollars to study for and take licensing exams.
Now, you might think that this is a small price to pay to make the big bucks starting at age 35. Wrong. Physician income decreased in 2011, malpractice insurance premiums and other costs are on the rise, and reimbursement rates are declining. Although the potential 26.5 percent Medicare reimbursement cuts were avoided in the fiscal cliff settlement, the fix is only temporary and the increases could still kick in sometime in the future.
At the same time, the cost of medical school tuition continues to increase faster than the rate of inflation. The average osteopathic (D.O.) medical school graduate has $205,675 in debt, and the average allopathic (M.D.) medical school graduate has $162,000 in debt. And as of July 1, 2012, graduate students were no longer eligible for subsidized Stafford Loans offered by the federal government, which will cause medical education debt to increase even more.
So, you think doctors are in it for the money? If they once were, they aren’t anymore. Nearly half of all physicians regret going into medicine. And when asked whether they feel they are adequately compensated, only 51% of physicians say yes.
Healthcare costs could bankrupt our country, and the high cost of physician salaries is a contributing cause. However, we cannot reduce physician salaries until we reduce the cost of physician training. We cannot expect physicians to spend up to 20 years and hundreds of thousands of dollars in training and then pay them a meager salary.
While your radiologist or orthopedist may be making enough money to be considered “rich,” some physicians risk going broke. Your primary care physician may not even be making enough to pay off her medical school loans. Plus, high expenses and debt repayment cause all physicians’ take-home pay to dwindle.
So next time you are jealous of your physician’s salary, remember the time and sacrifice it took to earn that salary, and that her take-home pay isn’t nearly as high as it appears.
And yes, I note in the interest of full disclosure, that I am engaged to a resident physician.
into underserved areas died in the Reagan era cuts. My brother, an FP, has worked hard and struggled in his practice. The system itself is broken and needs revised. frinkie
BLKMD: Thanks for getting it. Judging by your name, I can assume why. I was 14 years out of high school before I made my first decent salary. I love my job and derive a lot of satisfaction from practicing, but for any of you know-it-alls who want to see what it's like, come find me in the hospital. I'll be there at 6 tomorrow morning and I won't be done until 8 in the evening. Lunch and dinner and bathroom breaks may or may not happen; don't bank on them. I will be saving lives and dealing with more rules and regulations than you could ever imagine, all while dealing with people who don't have the faintest idea how hard it is to be a physician. I'm not saying I don't make a great living, but I'll bet my paycheck against yours that all of these "expert critics" don't have the stomach or the stones to round with me 13-14 hours a day, every day and every 3rd weekend. Put your money where your mouths are. I'll be around. Doctor D
scratch doctor off my to do list. sgamble077
drug companies only one getting rich here. sgamble077
Dave Clemens - CLUELESS! TruthTeller01
Doctors deserve every penny they make; just to get into medical school takes high academic achievement. Also, doctors deal with an incredible amount of stress and complexity on a daily basis.
If there is any single area we should scrutinize, it should be corporate c-level executives who make insane bucks via salary and stock options while their mules do all of the hard work and typically make below 6 figures per year. The Baron
People are crazy and not bright. They resent others from making money and push prices down and want reform then when it happens to them they complain they arent making enough. Also when the prices get pushed down regardless of the sector to the point where no one wants the job and service sucks they complain that the service sucks. The mentality is the other guy should do his work for free because I dont want to pay and I should be able to afford everything I want and when it comes to my money I should be able to make more. Crazy world we live in.... And when it doesnt work out we run to the government to fix it and that works really well. I used to work with doctors and most of them were in it for the money not saying they didnt want to help people but the many I met were arrogant and all they thought about was money and they would tell me their strategies to try to keep their incomes up over the years as regulations and lawsuites changed I cant think of one of the strategies that created better care. So I am not an expert on Obamacare but I think the result is we pay more and get less as a group but everyone gets something to make them feel better because that is what we are all about right now take from the people making money and spread it around so no one really has much and everyone is happy. JL68
The majority of these comments, especially that by nuggett are offensive. we risk ourselves and our future by taking any job? That does not even make sense. Doctors devote their early lives to training. They give up their social lives, they give up all of their free time until their mid to late 30s. They put off starting families. And they make minimal pay. How many other professions go through graduate school to make under 50,000 per year?? I don't think it is appropriate to compare a physician to "any other job", its not any other job. Medical school is nearly impossible to get into, and then you work ungodly hours studying, training, etc. And 200,00 year is not really enough when you think about all the debt that accrues during that time. frustrated12345
One could say the same for Phil Mickleson, i cant imagine how hard he pracitces the sacrifices travelling the costs associated with having to join a club or for coaching etc.... Everyone has their breaking point on how hard they work and wanting to keep what they have. It seems people only really respect their own point of view now days... And the only person who gets any sympathy is the poorest person. Oh wait he gets blasted for being lazy and picking the wrong major... JL68
Field - you are arguing both sides. Obamacare will significantly reduce physician disbursements. The quality of practioners will decrease (ever hear "why are there so many foreign doctors?"). They are not going to Norway or Canada where healthcare is free that's for sure. The doctor lives a lifestyle. I don't know any doctors not living the good life. It is a personal choice (privacy) who you fund school, or repay your loan. But this argument has been made forever and doesn't hold water then or now. The end. boroughboy
This forum proves the point that not knowing absolutley anything at all about a topic doesn't stop some people from posting. jak55555





Robert I. Field, Ph.D., J.D., M.P.H, professor of law at the Earle Mack School of Law and professor of health management and policy at the School of Public Health at Drexel University. He is the author of Health Care Regulation in America: Complexity, Confrontation and Compromise, a comprehensive overview of the government’s oversight of health care published by Oxford University Press.