Monday, February 4, 2013
Monday, February 4, 2013

Physicians are not overpaid

Everyone likes to complain about how much money doctors make. Many people hear the word "physician" and equate it with a mansion, BMW, and lavish vacation. But physicians don't make nearly as much as you think.

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Physicians are not overpaid

POSTED: Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 6:00 AM

Everyone likes to complain about how much money doctors make. Many people hear the word “physician” and equate it with a mansion, BMW, and lavish vacation. But physicians don’t make nearly as much as you think.

After finishing high school, physicians spend a minimum of 11 years in training. Specialized physicians train even longer, sometimes for as long as 20 years. These are years spent making no money while in school, or making very little money during residency and fellowship. And by the time these individuals are “real” physicians, they are already in their mid-to-late thirties and have spent years struggling financially to support themselves and their families.

During the three to seven years of medical residency, physicians in training who abide by the maximum 80-hour-work-week mandated by the Joint Commission make approximately $11 an hour before taxes. Some residents impermissibly work over 100 hours a week, which makes their hourly wage even lower. Many residents travel to numerous different hospitals, cover the cost of their own gas, and even have to pay for parking at the hospitals where they work. Residents pay hundreds of dollars to attend conferences to improve their knowledge in their area of practice and thousands of dollars to study for and take licensing exams.

Now, you might think that this is a small price to pay to make the big bucks starting at age 35. Wrong. Physician income decreased in 2011, malpractice insurance premiums and other costs are on the rise, and reimbursement rates are declining. Although the potential 26.5 percent Medicare reimbursement cuts were avoided in the fiscal cliff settlement, the fix is only temporary and the increases could still kick in sometime in the future.

At the same time, the cost of medical school tuition continues to increase faster than the rate of inflation. The average osteopathic (D.O.) medical school graduate has $205,675 in debt, and the average allopathic (M.D.) medical school graduate has $162,000 in debt. And as of July 1, 2012, graduate students were no longer eligible for subsidized Stafford Loans offered by the federal government, which will cause medical education debt to increase even more.

So, you think doctors are in it for the money? If they once were, they aren’t anymore. Nearly half of all physicians regret going into medicine. And when asked whether they feel they are adequately compensated, only 51% of physicians say yes.

Healthcare costs could bankrupt our country, and the high cost of physician salaries is a contributing cause. However, we cannot reduce physician salaries until we reduce the cost of physician training. We cannot expect physicians to spend up to 20 years and hundreds of thousands of dollars in training and then pay them a meager salary.

While your radiologist or orthopedist may be making enough money to be considered “rich,” some physicians risk going broke. Your primary care physician may not even be making enough to pay off her medical school loans. Plus, high expenses and debt repayment cause all physicians’ take-home pay to dwindle.

So next time you are jealous of your physician’s salary, remember the time and sacrifice it took to earn that salary, and that her take-home pay isn’t nearly as high as it appears.

And yes, I note in the interest of full disclosure, that I am engaged to a resident physician.

Erica Cohen @ 6:00 AM  Permalink | 41 comments
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:26 AM, 01/23/2013
    Stop already....Nobody takes a job, chooses a career to be poor or average...None of us do things purley for altruistic reasons, except maybe clergy types, cops and fire fighters.....We all do it for money, prestige, ego and benefits....
    Stop with the woe is me I am doctor and I am not a millionaire (yet) whining.......and we all risk ourselves and our future by taking anyjob....
    nuggett
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:35 AM, 01/23/2013
    Being a doctor is one of the hardest jobs. They are in fact underpaid. Obamacare seeks to turn them into servants.
    CD75
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:37 AM, 01/23/2013
    Making doctors go broke was Obama's intention so the will have no options except working for the government.
    CD75
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:01 AM, 01/23/2013
    Nuggett- I see you missed the "I like this field" reason. And believe it or not, some doctors actually want to help people (I know a few). I can agree with money and benefits, those are good things to have to live. Ego and prestige? I think you're projecting a bit, especially with the "nobody" part.
    verve
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:08 AM, 01/23/2013
    I am perplexed how an article titled, "Physicians are not overpaid" doesn't reference the average salary of a radiologist or orthopedist, yet references their tuition costs. "Years spent making no money while in school." Do any college students or graduate students make money while in school? I find it very difficult to empathize with physicians who believe they are underpaid. This article should be in the Opinion section, in my opinion.
    Delilah, MD
    delilah10
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:38 AM, 01/23/2013
    Thank you, delilah. The author of this piece not only wants to benefit from her husband-to-be's fat salary, she also wants us to think it's not enough. Rubbish. And to those of you who are using this article as a springboard to attack President Obama, just know that neither he nor any Democratic legislator wants physicians either to go broke or work for the government. A British-style National Health Service has NEVER been on the table in this country. (And even under the NHS, a number of doctors work for themselves, not for the government.) Your ill-informed criticisms do nothing to advance the health care debate.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:44 PM, 01/23/2013
    Clearly you are an idiot....physicians perform 4 years of college (no pay), 4 years of medical school (no pay) 3 to 7 years residency (100 hrs/wk at roughly $50K/yr), and 1 to 3 years fellowship (at a little more). All of this training is not matched anywhere by any other profession in the world. Additionally, no one complains that lawyers, CEOs, politicians, stock brokers, etc make too much money nearly as much as they do with physicians.
    HonestJohn3
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:22 AM, 01/23/2013
    While what the article stated is true, it is short sighted. Sure doctors spend a decade in school and residency. Sure they have loads of debt after graduation. But the point is they make it all back within the first 5 years of being a real physician if they can live modestly at first. So by the time they turn 40, student loans will be paid off and everything will be on the up and up. As for the author, she will be singing a different tune once her soon to be husband finishes residency and becomes a real doctor.
    penncrow19
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:24 AM, 01/24/2013
    By the time they turn 40?! none of these commenters have any idea what they are talking about. Most doctors are in training until they are nearly 40. I will not have my first attending job until I am 38, and I have gone straight through. 9 years of post graduate training is a lot.
    frustrated12345
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:32 AM, 01/23/2013
    Obama is trying to bankrupt our doctors and destroy our healthcare!
    mystikast
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:41 PM, 01/23/2013
    You are an ill-informed, illogical, ideologue.

    I am a college professor at a small catholic college who makes less than my students do upon graduation. I put one spouse through medical school and had a long term relationship with a family practioner. Last year I married a radiologist, who makes good money, and is very generous with her money. My M.D. brother-in-law runs a firm of high level health providers. None of them would agree with you. Two are life long Republicans.

    Educate yourself, or continue making posts that reveal your ignorance.
    Dr Bri
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:53 AM, 01/23/2013
    The author has neglected to mention that doctors are not susceptible to unemployment unless they commit an egregious act. Not being downsized or having the opportunity to be immediately re-hired is a priceless thing. Just ask the millions of unemployed people.
    hairball
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:49 PM, 01/23/2013
    You'd think so, wouldn't you? But hospitals close all the time and many doctors are lousy businessmen and are totally ruined when they try to have their own private practice. I think some major news organization did a huge feature on that a few months ago. Just because there will always be sick people doesn't mean that doctors are never unemployed.

    Even then, some don't make enough to cover the costs. Malpractice insurance can run 6-figures a year for surgeons.

    On a slightly different note, this reminds me of the time I met some big-shot from the FDA who still lives with his mother because he's still paying off his tuition.
    Ilmare
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:08 AM, 01/23/2013
    Oh, for goodness sake. Get out the violins. Here's what Erica Cohen's husband (assuming they marry) can expect to make, as an annual average, in various medical fields: Family practice, $200,000; psychiatry, $211,000; gynecology, $233,000; opthalmology, $248,000; general surgery, $350,000; anesthesiology, $360,000; dermatology, $365,000; cardiology, $402,000. These figures are according to the 2011-12 salary survey at profilesdatabase.com, and they compare with median U.S. household income of $50,000 in 2011. As for paying off student loans, the government has various programs that pay down as much as $120,000 for physicians who agree to work 2-3 years in underserved areas of the country. Plus, some medical practices will pay off some or all student debt for new doctors they especially want. Please forgive me, Ms. Cohen, if I don't cry for you.
    Dave Clemens


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