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Friday, May 29, 2009
Q: Dear Dan:

Can you provide me some resources for opiate addiction treatment (percocet) for someone who is currently unemployed and does not have insurance? I have heard great things about Suboxone, but unfortunately the Dr. visit as well as the prescription cost is just too much right now. I have tried matching a Dr. with the "needy meds" program, but no luck so far. I have also applied for Adult Basic, but there is a 2yr waiting list for that program. Any info you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Philly, PA

Sadly, there is not enough treatment available for those who need it in this city or nationally.  If you are in Philadelphia, I recommend you contact Roland Lamb at the Philadelphia coordinating office of drug abuse treatment, under the Department of health.  I don't know if they have any easy answers, but they are a good resource.
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Thursday, May 28, 2009

I have received several criticisms from colleagues about my position on describing depression as a brain disorder that is biologically based. This is a controversy all area and a political one. Many in the mental health profession feel that to medicalize depression is to play into the hands of the pharmaceutical industry. I think there is great merit to my colleagues points and I accept their criticism that my focus on depression may be too narrow. Maybe. So I'll publish excerpts of their letters and then my response at the end.

Dear Dan,

 

It seems that every time I read your column lately, you re making the case for depression as a biological illness like diabetes hat requires medication. I certainly agree that medication can be helpful for some people with "deep depression" you referred to recently. However, as you know, many people in our field feel that medication is being vastly over-prescribed. (Dr Joseph Glenmullen at Harvard says in his book that 75% of prescriptions for Prozac are unneccessary.) Young people are being taught that the answer to life's problems is found in pills--long before they have the chance to develop coping skills that would serve them far better and without side effects.

The point you made that distressed me most was that "depression is caused by a chemical imbalance." However, no such imbalance has been found for depression. Some depressives have low levels of serotonin, but others have normal or high levels. The drug companies themselves admit

that their anti-depressants offer results just mariginally better than placebos.

It's possible that you and I will never see this situation quite the same way. I've seen so many patients who come in severely depressed but who decide to use psychotherapy alone to get well.

Here's my point and my plea: Pharmaceutical companies have vast sums with which to deliver their message to the public, and they do so round the clock, reaching many millions daily. The other side of the debate gets zero air time. How can the public be expected to weigh the evidence?

Can I respectfully suggest that you read someone from the other side : eg Dr David Healy ("Let Them Eat Prozac") or Glenmullen ("Prozac Backlash")

Deborah Anna Luepnitz, Ph.D

 

Dear Dr. Gottlieb,

A couple of months ago, and again recently you indicated that depression is due to a biochemical imbalance for which medication must be taken. While I am not against the use of medication under certain circumstances, I wish to raise a question about the biochemical imbalance idea. It is often invoked these days as an explanation for depression as well as for other emotional problems, as if it were an already proven certainty. Yet we both know that there is another side to the story, an equally legitimate point of view that rarely finds its way into the public purview. The pharmaceutical industry has spent a considerable amount of time, effort, and money promoting its wares, as it should. It must show profits and it must answer to its shareholders. So we would expect that they will present a polished portrayal of their products. However, as clinicians, we must be careful not to solely rely on them for all of our information--much of which they derive from research which they themselves have funded-- regarding the efficacy and safety of those very same products. This is not a novel perspective. It is a point that has been made by Angell, Editor of the New England Journal of Medicine, as well as others

Right now the public, as well as some professionals in the field, believe that there is only one option when faced with emotional problems, that of medication.

Respectfully,

 

Burton N. Seitler, Ph.D.

 

Both of my colleagues make very important points. And I agree that medication is overprescribed and that, as our culture, we are too ready to look for pills to solve our problems. And, of course, much of this is fed by the pharmaceutical industry. So I agree with all of the exploits.

And I did mention in my last web chat that both medication and psychotherapy individually get comparable results, but both together get even better results.

However, I disagree about depression not being based in genetics and brain chemistry. I am quite comfortable with the research about that. And to view depression as a brain disorder goes a long way towards taking much of the shame and stigma out of the diagnosis. Unfortunately, both still exist as many see depression as a character weakness or a failure, but I find that once I explain to an individual or a family the biology of depression, shame dissipates and people are more likely to seek treatment -- both medication and psychotherapy.

Now that we know more about the brain and genetics, more people are seeing it for what it is -- something that originates in biology and can be made better or worse depending on what happens in one's environment. Just like there is plenty of evidence about the biological basis of depression, we now know through various scans that things like meditation, prayer, psychotherapy also change brain structure and function.

I appreciate your criticism, it helps people learn more .

 

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Tuesday, May 26, 2009

Dear Dr. Gottlieb

I am 75+ professional woman.  I have two daughters.  Both of them received excellent educations and are accomplished on their own way.  I am very proud of them.  I feel I have done my duty as a mother with one exception.  That is, one of my daughter is still single thus,  I feel that I still have an unfinished task in my life.

But, there is nothing I can do with my one daughter not been married.  And I think I am depressed over it. 

Lately I feel that there is nothing much I can do on this earth and I expressed to my friend that 'I been there and done it and I am ready to die'.   She was surpprised to hear what I said and suggested that I see a consulor for she believed that I am seriously depressed.

I don't quiet agree with her.  I don't think there is anything wrong with my feeling of being ready to go.  Granted, I am depressed over my daughter been unmarried. But, this something nothing I can do about it.  And I don't think it has anything to do with my feeling of ready to die. 

Taking my own life had never came to my mind.  What do you think?  Do you think I am depressed and in need to seek for help?

Dear reader

 this might not be the answer you want, but I do think you may be depressed and that seeing someone could be helpful. The reason I say that is because the fact that you are ready to go doesn't mean you were depressed. Personally, I feel ready to go also as I have accomplished almost everything I'd ever dreamed of. But... I love my life and cherish every moment I am alive. You are linking your readiness to die with the fact that your daughter is unmarried. In general, that connection could be symptomatic of depression. Whereas many parents might be unhappy that their child is unmarried, the kind of despair you express may be symptomatic of depression.

I guess, the message is that you don't have to feel as badly as you do.

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Tuesday, May 26, 2009

Dear Dr. Gottlieb

I am 75+ professional woman.  I have two daughters.  Both of them received excellent educations and are accomplished on their own way.  I am very proud of them.  I feel I have done my duty as a mother with one exception.  That is, one of my daughter is still single thus,  I feel that I still have an unfinished task in my life.

But, there is nothing I can do with my one daughter not been married.  And I think I am depressed over it. 

Lately I feel that there is nothing much I can do on this earth and I expressed to my friend that 'I been there and done it and I am ready to die'.   She was surpprised to hear what I said and suggested that I see a consulor for she believed that I am seriously depressed.

I don't quiet agree with her.  I don't think there is anything wrong with my feeling of being ready to go.  Granted, I am depressed over my daughter been unmarried. But, this something nothing I can do about it.  And I don't think it has anything to do with my feeling of ready to die. 

Taking my own life had never came to my mind.  What do you think?  Do you think I am depressed and in need to seek for help?

Dear reader

 you might not like to hear this,I do think you are depressed and that seeing someone could be helpful. The reason I say that is because the fact that you are ready to go doesn't mean you were depressed. Personally, I feel ready to go also as I have accomplished almost everything I'd ever dreamed of. But... I love my life and cherish every moment I am alive. You are linking your readiness to die with the fact that your daughter is unmarried. In general, that connection could be symptomatic of depression. Whereas many parents might be unhappy that their child is unmarried, the kind of despair you express may be symptomatic of depression.

I guess, the message is that you don't have to feel as badly as you do.

Posted by Dan Gottlieb @ 3:50 PM  Permalink | File Under: Child rearing, family relations | Post a comment
Monday, May 25, 2009
Depression. What loved ones can do.

Dan will be joined by a mother whose daughter suffers from depression.


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Friday, May 22, 2009

If depression affects 20% of our population, then the number of loved ones touched by this illness probably includes most of us.  So what can we do when a loved one is depressed and refusing treatment?  Case in point is "distraught mother" below who will be joining me on Tuesday's web chat.

Hi Dr Dan

I enjoyed reading your column, but your last one on "the depths of depression" spoke to me directly.  This subject is of particular importance to me because over this last weekend, I discovered that my eldest daughter has fallen again in a deep depression.

My husband & I struggled to communicate with her about her need to seek treatment. Then your article appeared in the paper. Very timely. She has 4 babies with the youngest one-year-old, and after each one, and she had a postpartum depression.  Her husband works long hours which I am sure adds to the stress.  We live in another state which makes us feel more helpless and frustrated. 

 Her situation is very stressful, but is compounded by the depression which has developed since she stopped taking her medication about 8 weeks ago. That's because she has a history of eating disorder and she feels the medication is making her put on weight. Lately she has been cutting herself off from everyone.  But the most frightening part occurred last week when she called me hysterically crying and said she did not want to be a mother anymore.  As she is an adult woman and I know I cannot force her to take antidepressants. My question is, what can I do to convince her to get treatment before she hurts herself or her children? The situation seems dire, please help. Distraught mother

Dear distraught mother,

Any good parent can understand the desperation you must feel.  After all, our primary instinct is to protect our children.  That only gets magnified when we have grandchildren.  Okay, by now you probably know my mantra about releasing our grasp on adult children, and not being reactive to our own anxiety and helplessness.  All of which is true -- until it happens in your family. 

Although you cannot control your daughter's behavior or even her thinking, you also cannot be passive as that last phone call sounded desperate and dangerous.  So I would suggest doing two things simultaneously.  I know she is seeing a therapist every other week, but he/she should be notified right away about your daughter's desperation.  I don't know the laws in the state where she lives, but in some states that threat might be enough for outside agencies to intervene and get her into treatment.  Her husband also must know how desperate the situation is and some things he can do.  For example, he can contact their local county office of mental health to find out what they have available.  Also national organizations like National Alliance of Mental Illnes(NAMI) and the national mental health Association (MHA).  In addition, it would help if friends and family could spend time in the home helping with child care as having four babies would tax anyone's emotional resources. 

So one route you can take his aggressive intervention with agencies and support networks.  But that is not the only route. I also have other suggestions.  And here I don't speak just as a family therapist, I speak as a father.   When my daughter experienced depression for the first time, she was a young adult and living independently.  Just like your daughter, her symptoms started in childhood when she would isolate herself.  And just like your daughter as she grew and the depression worsened, she began to engage in behaviors that were of concern to me and the rest of the family.  And like your daughter, whenever someone said anything about her behavior, she became defensive.  She lived within driving distance so I asked her if I could come up and just hang out for a day. This may or may not be a possibility for you.  But if it is, I urge you to consider it.  Anyway, as  I was driving to her home, I thought back to when I specialized in substance abuse.  I recalled that their families thought the problem was drugs or alcohol, and the abuser thought the problem was the family!  And then I realized that I had been thinking the problem was my daughters’ depression and her behavior while she was thinking that the problem was everyone else.We spent the whole day together exploring her new neighborhood, visiting her worksite and hanging out with her animals.  We didn't talk about her depression or the risky behaviors she was engaging in, we just talked about her (okay, and me also).  For the first time since the crisis began, I felt close to my child and I am sure she felt the same with me. It was then that I asked her about how she was feeling about her life and herself.  And then I listened for a long time.  When she was done, I told her that her suffering broke my heart and that the reason she suffered was because of her genetic-based illness called depression. I almost cried when she looked up at me wide-eyed and said "I thought everyone felt this way." 

Although medication and psychotherapy combined are the treatment of choice for depression, there is also plenty of evidence that family therapy helps.  If you or your spouse have had depression I am sure an open discussion about your experiences, your impulses and your coping strategies would help diminish some of the shame your daughter feels.  And very often beginning with family therapy helps the person with the symptoms feel less like "the sick one".

Keep in mind that despite your terror, what she really needs from you is intimacy, safety, trust and love.

Posted by Dan Gottlieb @ 8:43 AM  Permalink | File Under: Child rearing, family relations | | Living with adversity | | Personal stories | Post a comment
Wednesday, May 20, 2009

I don't typically remember my dreams and when I do, they are rarely memorable.  But there are a few notable exceptions, and last month I had what some might consider a prophetic dream. 

I was in a crowded subway minding my own business and pretty quickly the crowd began to hurriedly leave. Finally, there was about five of us remaining and I could see why they left.  The angel of death was standing there looking slowly at the five of us.  And yes, he looked a little bit like a malnourished Darth Vader with a boring black wardrobe and a sickle.  He looked carefully at each one of the other four frightened people and told them to leave.  And then he looked at me and said: "January".

And then I woke up.

Once began thinking about the dream, I wanted to go back as I had so many questions, like: "what about January, are you telling me that will be the first snowstorm, Eagles will be in the Super Bowl again, I will be taking a vacation to a warm climate so maybe I should buy my plane tickets now?"

Just kidding, I knew what he meant.  January is when I will face my death.  So the big question would be which January?  And what if it is this coming January?

although I sometimes take dreams literally, usually they are metaphorical and often a manifestation of one's unconscious for an unexperienced mood state.  But as I thought about the dream, it didn't feel like it was symptomatic of depression or anxiety like many are.  

So I decided to spend the next several days assuming that this January will be my last, and so will this spring and next summer.  As will encounters with friends I see rarely. Even those I love dearly, I began to see them as though I wouldn't have much more time with them.

And you probably know by now what happened. This spring has been one of the most precious and vibrant I've ever encountered.  My love for people in my life has grown in depth.  And while everything I love feels more fragile, it feels more precious at the same time.  Just like life itself.

Like I said, that dream was a month ago and that vibrant awareness of my fragility comes and goes.  But when I do experience it, I feel more alive and grateful.

So was that dream about me or was it an archetypical dream that is really about all of us?

Now that I experience the gifts of that dream, I sometimes think maybe I should send that guy a thank you note.  But he was pretty weird and might take it the wrong way.  And that's the last person I would ever want to piss off

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Monday, May 18, 2009

Join Dan and his guest Steve Newman in a chat about clinical depression. The chat starts at noon. You can post your questions now.

  


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Friday, May 15, 2009

For those who have never experienced clinical depression, it can be hard to understand. For most people, it is just a depressed mood, something most of us get over in a brief period. With a bad mood, most people can function with a pretty clear mind. It can be painful, but no big deal.

But for about 20 percent of us who have or will experience clinical depression, it's a very big deal. Clinical depression affects the way we think and the way we experience ourselves in the world. It affects relationships and our ability to accurately interpret information.

A young woman I treated years ago said that she felt like a diamond inside a malignant tumor and didn't know if she would live or die.

A recent colleague said  he felt as if his brain were oatmeal and that he couldn't think properly.

When I suffered clinical depression, I felt like a frightened, confused child pretending to be a psychologist. And feeling like a sham made the anxiety, depression and shame so  much worse.

Steve Newman had his first episode of depression when he was in seventh grade. A good student, he had a precipitous drop in grades and felt lost for much of his youth. Although his IQ was measured in the top 10 percent nationally, he graduated high school in the bottom five percent of his class.

When I spoke with him, he said his poor transcripts reflected the efforts of someone who didn't expect to live more than a few more years. Somehow, his father got him into a local college which is where he first heard the word "depression."

He said his depression felt like climbing a mountain when a storm hits. Any thoughts of going upward were beaten down by cold rain and wind. Going down was also impossible because of the same elements. He said his goal in life was just hanging on.

A colleague once told me that depression is experienced from the outside in, that people on the outside can see it before the depressed person knows it.

 Such was the case with Steve. That was true for me too.

Mine started several years after I became a quadriplegic as I felt my wife pulling away. My mind began to race and I worried all the time. I felt increasingly insecure and said almost nothing in meetings, fearful that what was occurring inside would become visible on the outside.

But I didn't even know I was depressed until one of my nurses told me that I looked as if I had the weight of the world on my shoulders. Once I realized that what was going on inside my head was visible on the outside, I knew I was depressed and sought treatment.

Depression can affect a litany of things from sleeping and eating patterns to concentration and memory. It can induce guilt and a feeling of worthlessness.

And although only a small minority of those with depression attempt suicide, it's not unusual to think about wanting to die. I recall thinking that life was just too difficult and painful to go on. I didn't want to die, but my suffering was unbearable.

There are many types of depression. The causes, too, are varied, but most have a genetic link. I had a mild predisposition as there was dysthymia, a low grade form of depression, in my family. Steve had bipolar disorder in his family.

Most people with depression get better with treatment. And gold standard care for depression is a combination of medication and psychotherapy.

Prognosis is tied directly to the duration and frequency of episodes. That's because depression has a powerful negative effect on the brain and the longer it lasts, the more likely one is to have a second episode. And once that happens, patients are at far higher risk for even more episodes.

My depression diminished significantly with medication and psychotherapy. And when I see the first sign of depression, I'm on the telephone with my psychopharmacologist.

Steve has not been so lucky. He has what is called a drug resistant depression and although he has tried almost all medication and several kinds of psychotherapy, he still suffered.

In 2005 he heard about the Transcranial-Magnetic Stimulation program run by John P. O'Reardon at the University of Pennsylvania. This program has recently been approved by the FDA and uses magnets strategically placed near one's scalp to diminish depressive symptoms.

It's another promising treatment for an illness we're all still struggling to understand.


Posted by Dan Gottlieb @ 8:34 AM  Permalink | File Under: Living with adversity | | Personal stories | | Research | Post a comment
Wednesday, May 13, 2009

I gave a talk last week at Bryn Mawr Presbyterian Church. The topic was "is happiness necessary?" Before my presentation I was asked to have dinner with several church members had someone home where I was approached by an elderly gentleman and his wife. The man looked to be in his mid-80s and his wife appeared 10 years younger. Clearly there was something cognitively amiss with his wife as she immediately began to touch, almost caress my face and say "you look like such a nice person". She then picked up my necktie and commented about how pretty it was. Not knowing how impaired she was, I said that it was from the Boys and Girls Club. She gave me a warm maternal smile and said "that's so nice. You have somewhere to go after school." At which point her husband told me she had Alzheimer's.

During my speech they sat near the front row so I could see that she was in understanding much of what I had to say. But when I finished, she was one of the first people to come to the stage. With tears in her eyes she said to me: "yes, it is about love. Everything that is important is about love" and then we hugged.

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About Dan Gottlieb
Welcome to my new blog and weekly on-line chat.
To be considered for an on-line consultation with Dan, send an e-mail describing your concerns to drdangottlieb@aol.com

Every Tuesday at noon I will be live for an hour to chat with one person in real time. Ask Dan Here


Throughout the week I'll be posting entries about research I find interesting, your emails and my responses, random observations about life and current events and recommendations for books, lectures or webpages. Feel free to e-mail me questions, reactions or vignettes about your life though I cannot respond to everyone. And please know that if I use your correspondence, although I will try to disguise identifying characteristics, because this is a public forum, I cannot assure confidentiality.

Understand this is not psychotherapy and cannot be a substitute for it. Further, I cannot assess or diagnose. The purpose of this dialogue is to be educational and perhaps to help writers and viewers gain a different perspective on themselves. People needing help should contact a mental health professional.

Dan Gottlieb is a psychologist and marital therapist and has been in practice nearly 40 years. His career started in community mental health and substance abuse until his accident in 1979 made him a quadriplegic.

Since that time, he has been in private practice. Since 1985, he has been hosting a radio show called "Voices in the Family" on WHYY FM, Philadelphia's NPR affiliate. He was a regular columnist for the Philadelphia Inquirer from 1994 until 2008. He is also the author of four books.

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