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Dan Gottlieb is chatting today about when parents lose a child. He will be joined by his guest Trish (see post below) who lost her son through suicide.
Dan will be joined for this chat by Dr. Molly Layton a Philadelphia based psychologist and family therapist who is a contributing editor to "Psychotherapy Networker" magazine.
They will talk about difficult relationships and other issues viewers want to discuss.
Someone I know quite well was telling me that a few weeks ago he began waking up around three in the morning and had difficulty getting back to sleep. I know he has a history of Seasonal Affective Disorder and suspected this was the first sign. For many people with the disorder, the onset comes sometime in August just as the days begin to get shorter. Anyway, he said that the sleep disturbance didn't bother him that much because he was relieved that he wasn't feeling depressed. I know he has a history of clinical depression and I also know how devastating it can be, so I certainly understand his relief.
But then he went on to say that just last week the depressive symptoms began. Although mood still wasn't depressed (only one of many symptoms of depression) he was having some of the cognitive symptoms that go with depression. He was feeling less secure about his thoughts and judgments, more tentative in some social interactions, and an increase in his baseline anxiety. And he said his mind sometimes feels like chipmunks on steroids!
He said he is able to do his work but he is much more tired than usual. He is a part-time writer and sometimes he feels his work isn't quite the quality it was before all this started. Of course that is probably just as negative perception because I know his work and I think it has been excellent.
The reason I know this guy so well is because I have been living with him for 63 years!
Seasonal Affective Disorder affects many people to varying degrees. Although we don't know why some people get it and others don't, we do know that there is a genetic link and people with a history of depression are at increased risk. I have had three previous episodes of clinical depression and currently take a maintenance dose of medication. What I am experiencing is technically in the mild range of depression, but for some, the depression can be quite severe, triggering thoughts of hopelessness and despair.
The experience of even moderate depression is to be living with a mind that feels out of control. Thoughts race, everything feels worrisome, hopeless and never-ending. Those with depression have a tendency to be terribly self-critical and blame themselves for their problems which only adds to the shame.
The experience of depression is not well known by the general public. Of course I was being humorous when I talked about chipmunks on steroids, but depression does make one much more self-conscious. And because of the shame and stigma attached, many feel very alone afraid to talk about what's happening for fear of being harshly judged.
But the big question here is what to do about it. One could easily say that it's only seasonal and you just have to live with it, and maybe that's true. But depression is not good for your brain and if possible needs to be dealt with quickly and effectively.
Many recommend light boxes to supplement the lack of external light. This is not FDA approved as the research is not definitive, but there is plenty of evidence that this does have an effect for many people. It's good to consult your doctor or mental health professional, but not all are knowledgeable about these things.
I have been using lights attached to a sun visor for about two weeks and I have been feeling a bit better. Of course there is no way of knowing whether the lights are contributing, but I certainly hope so because I look incredibly silly in my hat!
Of course medication can be helpful for this like it is any other depression. And some doctors recommend getting all in a preventative dose of medication before the symptoms begin.
Most people should get about eight to nine hours sleep a night, but it's especially important for those with depression as fatigue can make depression worse and vice versa. However, those with depression shouldn't be spending extra time in bed as that will only increase fatigue and make the depression worse.
Like with any other depression, frequent aerobic exercise helps as does a healthy diet. Meditation and yoga are also quite helpful. My meditation practice has helped you feel less attached to the depression. Although I still feel it, it only feels like one of many experiences in my and it doesn't control my life.
Depression like any other illness is helped by the care and support of others. Despite one's instinct to withdrawal , silence makes shame worse. So even though it might feel awkward, it's important to share what is happening with people whose compassion you trust.
I just did.
Dan’s guest Tuesday on his noon web chat will be psychologist Tamara Chansky, author of Freeing Your Child from Negative Thinking: Powerful, Practical Strategies to Build a Lifetime of Resilience, Flexibility, and Happiness.
Although divorce harms all children, according to the American Association for marriage and family therapy, only 25% of children of divorce have serious long-term emotional difficulties.
Dan will talk with Child Psychiatrist Mary Ann Ager about the impact of divorce on children before opening the chat up to all.
Dan will be joined in his chat about schizophrenia by Joseph Rogers, chief advocacy Officer of the mental health Association of Southeastern Pennsylvania. Rogers has a history of psychosis and spent time living on the street with a diagnosis of schizophrenia. The chat starts at noon.
Hello Dr. Dan,
I watched the movie, “The Soloist” tonight about Steve Lopez’ relationship with Nathaniel Ayers, the inspirational homeless musician in LA. I’m thinking you may have seen the movie/read the book. There are some very compelling scenes depicting some schizophrenic episodes with Nathaniel hearing voices that clearly distract him from reality. I’m wondering if, from your experiences and expertise, you can share your insights on the authenticity of the movie, especially regarding the relationship between Ayers and Lopez and the mental illness symptoms of many of the homeless people depicted in the film.
I’m a Theology teacher in a Catholic high school and in my Senior classes, we study homelessness—the realities, the impact, the causes and consequences. I’m thinking that this movie may be useful.
I look forward to any insights you can offer me, Dr. Dan.
Peace and blessings,
Suzy Eyler
Dear Susie Eyler,
As you may know, schizophrenia is one of the most disabling of all of the psychiatric disorders. It affects over 2 million people in this country and about 15% of them are either on the streets or in prison. Like we saw in the movie, first symptoms occur in men in their late teens and early 20s, later in women. The hallucinations and delusions that you saw may be the most dramatic symptom of schizophrenia but far from the only ones. These symptoms make most with schizophrenia fearful and withdrawn, but sometimes they can become terrified of what happens in their minds.
And because those with schizophrenia look and act strange and appear timid and frightened, they are at high risk to become victims of violence, especially if they are in prison or on the streets.
We have known for a while that schizophrenia is a brain disorder that is based in genetics, we are still pretty far from understanding the exact causes. But that doesn't mean it's untreatable. New medications are coming out every day with more awaiting approval from the FDA. There have also been improvements in our understanding of what psychosocial treatments are more effective. Some of the cognitive therapies are also showing promise. And with good and consistent treatment, it is estimated that after five years 50% are improved enough that they are able to function independently. Another 25% are improved but require ongoing supportive therapies. Of the remaining 25%, about 15% of them are hospitalized. Sadly, suicide accounts for the other 10%.
But those statistics are for people who receive treatment. People who have supportive networks to make sure they get the treatment they need. And that is not the case with many people who have schizophrenia or other major mental illnesses. They are left to the care of public institutions that are overburdened, underfunded and unable to effectively meet the needs of those who need their services most.
Which gets us to Nathaniel Ayers in "The Soloist"
Given the Hollywood requirement for both drama and relative simplicity, I think they did a pretty good job of portraying schizophrenia fairly. But what they did beautifully was to portray the humanity behind the illness.
I discovered this as a brand-new psychologist in 1969 when my first patient, Norma, shuffled into my office for the first independent psychotherapy session of my career. Norma had schizophrenia and had carried the diagnosis for 30 years. I was 23 years old at the time! Of course, I had to prove to both of us that I was a competent psychologist who would treat her. As soon as we started talking, she nailed me. She told me in her own confused way that I had no idea what I was doing and that I was making it up! Of course, she was right. But she wasn't angry or hostile about it as I might have been if the situation was reversed. Instead, she was more playful which enabled me to get comfortable with the relationship we had rather than the one we were supposed to have. Norma and I didn't communicate well with words, often we didn't understand each other's language at all, but there was a connection. Sometimes when the words stopped, we looked in each other's eyes and smiled.
Norma never really got better, and a couple of years later, I heard that she died on the streets. I cried as I would have hearing any friend had died.
20 years later I was working with a 20-year-old girl who was suffering with depression and an eating disorder. One day she said "I feel like my soul is a diamond locked inside of a malignant tumor." Hearing that, I thought of Norma and my eyes welled up with tears.
If Norma's mind was clearer, I am sure she could have said the same thing. And my guess is that most people living on the streets could also say the same thing.
You see, in my mind, these are not street people or schizophrenics, these are people who experience their lives the same way my 20-year-old patient did.
And our responsibility as a community is to know that and do whatever we can to see that diamond.
Dan Gottlieb will talk about compassion fatigue with his guest Christine (see column below).

