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Wednesday, July 29, 2009

So now that the excitement over the worms in the ocean has settled a bit, a blog post five times more popular than even the one about Paris Hilton, draw your own conclusions, and Ventnor beach goers have been left with only the stench of rotting mussels to bum them out, we can turn out attention to this pressing issue. Which coffee shop is the proper heir to the fabled and beloved old 4th Street Cafe at 4th and Atlantic in Ocean City? I bit the bullet and had coffee and scones at both places this morning (hey, I have a story in today's paper, I'm entitled). As you can see by the photo above, the people at the Who's on First Cafe at 1st and Asbury, consider themselves the real 4th Street Cafe, and believe me, they have the coffee (La Colombe) the scones (how do they get that crust so crusty, that inside so fluffy???), and the management (from the old 4th Street) to make that claim. But yet....

 

But yet. It was only at 4th and Atlantic, where Positively Fourth Street thrives under the same owners of the building, but not the people who actually ran the old cafe, and the same gang hangs at the old roundtable in the back room, doing crossword puzzles and yacking, the breeze from the ocean finding its way to the front patio at that corner, which once upon a time was actually nearly ocean front, hence the old Lifeguard Station that is cattycorner to the cafe, that I felt that old 4th Street raison d'etre, or perhaps it's the comforting lack of raison d'etre, feeling kick in. The coffee, Harry & Beans Fair Trade Organic Nicauraguan, was good, tho not La Colombe. And the Mexican chocolate scone I had was a doughy parody of the ones the original 4th street cafe people mastered that now are baked at 1st street. But yet. Something about the space at 1st and Asbury that feels claustrophobic. Even the patio, which is nice, doesn't feel right. There's a bit of a slope, I think, and the chairs are too high, and I kind of couldn't wait to get out of there. And some guy stood on the corner and yacked on his cell phone, not realizing that even though he had stepped out of the cafe itself, to be polite, he was still bothering everyone on the patio. But at 4th Street, I settled in for a nice chunk of Anna Karenina (I'm on page 574, and I'm beginning to suspect that this isn't going to turn out so well for Anna). The chairs felt right. The tables inside have some really nice glass tile work. The coffee refills were free, not 50 cents, as at 1st and Asbury. It's still a tough call. I'd take either one in Ventnor and give thanks. The food is excellent at both places, both serve a similar lunch menu, with a similar dinner option. The baking is still better at 1st and Asbury. But the space, the je ne sais quoi, the reason we seek out these places to begin with, somehow, it didn't make the leap to 1st street. Maybe it's just the proximity to the ocean. A few blocks toward the bay is just stuffier air. Whatever it is, I'm going to give this year's nod to location.Still champ: 4th and Atlantic, a charmed spot at the Jersey shore. 

 

Posted by Amy Rosenberg @ 1:03 PM  Permalink | 8 comments
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Posted 04:34 PM, 07/29/2009
vintagebooks
Just a few observations... I witnessed someone trying to read Tolstoy this morning at the 4th Street Cafe (at 1st Street). I even noticed the gentleman on the cell phone. I go to the cafe almost daily. It is a cell free zone that most people respect. Today was an exception. The person reading Tolstoy (was that you?!) sat right next to the door, in the direct sun. There are more comfortable and private seats along the side of the building. Lastly, I can't imagine who would want to patronize a cafe that so blatantly ripped off the original - right down to the same awnings, benches, menu, and even the name!
Posted 05:29 PM, 07/29/2009
amyr
as a matter of fact, i think that was me. but i was sitting in a seat that was in the shade. As you can see from the photo above, half that first table was in the shade. I see your point about positively fourth street being a rip off, but when the old cafe was called Fourth Street Cafe, and they move from Fourth Street, I don't think you can accuse the new cafe of ripping off the old one, especially when it's the same owners of the property, which is still on Fourth Street. It's hard to argue with Fourth Street being on Fourth Street. Still, agreed, it's trying awfully hard to imitate the old menu, right down to the chicken salad. But something of the old place didn't transfer to the new place, as much as I wish it did.
Posted 05:29 PM, 07/29/2009
linda dubin garfield
after coffee at either cafe, walk down to the accent gallery 956 asbury ave (only one, no dispute) to see wonderful art, including several works of mine, and meet the best galleristas ever! then walk back too the other cafe and have another drink and scone... you deserve it after all that walking, right???
Posted 05:38 PM, 07/29/2009
Jen A. Miller
Amy - As I say: if I write about the shore, testing a shore place by sitting there and reading *IS* work ;-)
Posted 05:59 PM, 07/29/2009
Tevas
I think that vintagebooks is on the right track. Initially, I didn't know the background and just enjoyed both places. After only a couple of trips though, it was apparent that there was an underlying difference. Menu! The food quality is far superior in the place at 1st street. After hearing the local gossip, (building owners not renewing the lease and then re-opening an identical business.) I thought, oh well, business is cutthroat everywhere you go. This is especially evident in the shameless plug from the Accent Gallery. We have always loved OC because it is a wholesome community that seems to value integrity more than dollars.
Posted 08:19 AM, 07/30/2009
wfs0868
These pictures are not clear or focused. Are these from a cell phone? I wouldn't even email them to a friend, much less publish them in a major newspaper. You've got an easy job...start doing it right.
Posted 12:40 PM, 07/30/2009
thebupps
The food at Who's On First is far superior to the current food offered at Fourth Street, and you even thought so, Amy, so how can you "give this year's nod to location?" The fact that the owners of the Fourth Street building did not renew the lease of the successful cafe operators and then opened their own restaurant there is shameful, it's not "just business." Just because you have the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do. There is no question that what exists at Fourth Street now is not the same business that was there before, regardless of "Fourth Street being on Fourth Street." The new place at First & Asbury is the cafe that used to inhabit Fourth Street, and it's still a fantastic place to go.
Posted 09:43 AM, 07/31/2009
amyr
wfs0868: yes, pictures are from my phone. and yes, they're not that great. but they were never meant to be "published" in the paper. they're for the blog, and they are sort of meant as a joke, a goof on going undercover for coffee. And the "accept no imitations" banner that spurred me to the posting in the first place is clear enough. thebupps: i will definitely stipulate that the food is better at First and Asbury, as it's the original Fourth Street Cafe food people. So if all I'm doing is going for lunch (I've never been to either place for dinner), and that's what I'm most interested in, then you're right. The proper heir is Who's on First. But if I'm heading for Ocean City for a proper hang in a coffee shop, which is mainly why I go, I just still find the atmosphere I'm looking for on Fourth Street. I agree with you, and see it more clearly after these comments. There's something a little outrageously unfair about how the Positively Fourth Street owners just tried to imitate their previous tenants. (And even with the fuzzy pictures, you can see the awnings are the same.) But I wish that the old Fourth Street Cafe people had set up their new cafe better. Maybe outside is ok if the breeze is right. But inside, the tables are all up against the wall, it just has never felt right to me.
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