Saturday, April 6, 2013
Saturday, April 6, 2013

Wynn details proposed Fishtown casino

Steve Wynn talks about his design decisions for Wynn Philadelphia, proposed for 60 waterfront acres in Fishtown.

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Wynn details proposed Fishtown casino

POSTED: Friday, April 5, 2013, 1:23 PM
Rendering of the proposed Wynn casino in Fishtown.

Steve Wynn sent this new rendering of the River Walk for his proposed Fishtown casino on the Delaware River waterfront.

But the most talked about feature of his site plan, unveiled last week, is a 20-acre parking area with a green roof.

In a phone interview from Las Vegas Thursday, Wynn said he decided to put all the parking on one level as a convenience to customers. Whether bound for the casino, restaurants, hotel or River Walk, patrons could drive to their destination, he said.

For customers, “ground-level parking makes it totally convenient to drive to the part of the project that they want to enjoy,” he said. “In a drive-in market, access is everything.” The heated facility, he explained, would not be a “clunky garage sticking out.”

“The reason you don’t see the garage,” Wynn said, “is it’s surrounded by trees and it’s dropped about two or three feet below grade.”

The proposed green roof, meanwhile, is meant as a green design feature for customers sitting by windows at second-floor restaurants or meeting rooms.

The public, however, will not be able to walk on the roof. “I don’t want people wandering through the restaurant garden when someone is having dinner there,” Wynn said.

Steve Wynn’s plan will also have a river walk with a cafe, ice cream stand and bike rentals.

But whatever you do, don't call the River Walk a boardwalk. In a telephone interview today, Wynn explained: "This is all landscape and trees. It takes on a completely different look. When you bring the lush landscaping that close, you don't get a boardwalk look."

Read more of the interview with Wynn in Sunday's Inquirer.

Also Thursday, team Wynn met perhaps its toughest critics when it sat down with the board of the Central Delaware Advocacy Group at 2424 Studios, 2424 York St. in Fishtown.

CDAG, for short, is made up of neighborhood associations that see themselves as advocates of the central Delaware master plan. What’s that? In case you’re new to town, it was an impressive civic exercise five years ago to articulate what the people of Philadelphia would like to see happen along the waterfront.

“You're wasting a lot of land just for cars,” said Robert Kettell, a representative of the Old City Civic Association.

 Matt Ruben, chair of CDAG, called Wynn’s design for a public trail along the waterfront “fantastic,” but noted that the plan calls for very little open space on the southern end of the property.

Rene Goodwin, another CDAG member, pointed out to the Wynn team that Philadelphia has a different "urban life" than Las Vegas and is more of a walking city, than a driving one. "It may be a different paradigm for you, but it could be an interesting one," she said

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Comments  (23)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:04 PM, 04/05/2013
    Dear Mr. Wynn,
    This design is awful. Looks like a cultist building for scientologists.
    Please get a much better architect; this is perhaps the most tasteless, dumbest looking and most low brow design proposed for Philadelphia in many years.
    You can and must do much better.
    We know you can run casinos and you would be my first choice but never by building that disgusting thing here. That is an awful building!
    GAC
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:16 PM, 04/05/2013
    You must have never been to Vegas. Steve's casion is the classiest place in Vegas. His casino will be hands down the best on the east coast!!
    frankjphila
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:28 PM, 04/05/2013
    "Steve's casino is the classiest place in Vegas."

    Bwahahahaha!!!! You set that bar very, very low, frankj. And I have been there. All surface, no substance.
    Tatt2
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:32 PM, 04/05/2013
    Full time jobs or part time on call ones like in Vegas?
    Flermart74
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:12 PM, 04/05/2013
    How about NO jobs like Philly.
    emaximus
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:11 PM, 04/05/2013
    Dems hate progress. They would rather model the waterfront after North Philly.
    emaximus
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:15 PM, 04/05/2013
    Is it bad in philly as well, for jobs I mean?
    Flermart74
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:20 PM, 04/05/2013
    That general area was in the original mix when the Sugar Box was chosen. As I remember without revisiting the site plans, that location would have been larger, employed more people, and was further away from the neighborhoods. At the time, that was the favorite with Vegas odds makers while the Sugar Box was their long shot. Guess they didn't factor in the corruption of the site selectors.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:37 PM, 04/05/2013
    A casino with a 20 acre parking lot? Really?
    tomB
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:00 PM, 04/05/2013
    tHE Best thing you could do Mr. Wynn is to pack up Num Nut Nutter and ship him out to Vagas and give him a job as a Casino floor cleaner. I doubt if he would last more than a week at your casino out there, but it would give you a chance to fire him. It would be such a great service to the people of Philly. Then you casino would have a chance in Philly with your casino plan.
    rduexpress
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:12 PM, 04/05/2013
    nice, looks like new orleans riverwalk
    raynesrock
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:19 PM, 04/05/2013
    Except they clearly faked the details. There is no way that a casino with 20 acres of parking is going to have only 8 or 9 tables outside the windows. They make it look like Rittenhouse Square, but it will be teeming with thousands of low-life, over-large, minimum-bet gamblers. It's going to be a mob scene.

    Whoever painted that scene has clearly never been in a casino. There's not a whale in sight. Those trim and perky people will be nowhere near a casino.
    Tatt2
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:30 PM, 04/05/2013
    Are they looking for a place to put the "new casino"? I say use the Grand Ballroom of the Pennsylvania Convention Center. (The large and underused entrance to the PA Convention Center through the Old Reading terminal shed.) This would then become a sort of boutique style Casino built for Urban usage.) It would mean that the Convention Center would begin to have to use the Broad Street Entrance - across from the Woody Woodpecker Head on a stick --as the show off entrance, although people still could enter the Convention Center thorough the Casino. Isn't that the type of Casino dollars the city wants -- from the pockets of visitors comes cash! It would not sap off the typical Philly Gambling trade that now shows up at the Sugar House and would only re-show up at this proposed Wynn Resorts on the Delaware -- nothing really new or exciting -- just two waterfront casinos struggling to capture the same clientele in order to stay afloat. A casino placed in the Grand Ballroom would have little trouble succeeding because there would be little out lay in construction. It would "fit in" as a piece of the Philadelphia entertainment scene not consume it. It would not become the entire entertainment or take too much away from other nearby tourist based businesses that need tourist dollars to thrive. Then let 8th and Market develop; then let North Broad street develop -- both in a complimentary but not gambling oriented way. Philadelphia should not become, indeed never will become no matter what the hype a gambling mecca to visit -- but let it be and remain a great city to visit because it is a city.
    nehpets
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:30 PM, 04/05/2013
    Are they looking for a place to put the "new casino"? I say use the Grand Ballroom of the Pennsylvania Convention Center. (The large and underused entrance to the PA Convention Center through the Old Reading terminal shed.) This would then become a sort of boutique style Casino built for Urban usage.) It would mean that the Convention Center would begin to have to use the Broad Street Entrance - across from the Woody Woodpecker Head on a stick --as the show off entrance, although people still could enter the Convention Center thorough the Casino. Isn't that the type of Casino dollars the city wants -- from the pockets of visitors comes cash! It would not sap off the typical Philly Gambling trade that now shows up at the Sugar House and would only re-show up at this proposed Wynn Resorts on the Delaware -- nothing really new or exciting -- just two waterfront casinos struggling to capture the same clientele in order to stay afloat. A casino placed in the Grand Ballroom would have little trouble succeeding because there would be little out lay in construction. It would "fit in" as a piece of the Philadelphia entertainment scene not consume it. It would not become the entire entertainment or take too much away from other nearby tourist based businesses that need tourist dollars to thrive. Then let 8th and Market develop; then let North Broad street develop -- both in a complimentary but not gambling oriented way. Philadelphia should not become, indeed never will become no matter what the hype a gambling mecca to visit -- but let it be and remain a great city to visit because it is a city.
    nehpets
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:05 PM, 04/05/2013
    Give it to Wynn, he is the right man for this project.
    Frank J Graff
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:22 PM, 04/05/2013
    Will this beautiful structure and landscaping be completed at the same time as the casino, or promised and never come to fruition, like the Sugar Dump Hotel?
    ptahan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:52 PM, 04/05/2013
    What a spectacular design! Green over the naked concrete!
    Ben Fan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:51 PM, 04/05/2013
    everyone has an idea but he's the only one with the money. a plain parking lot would be an improvement.
    LOUIS CHUCK
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:00 PM, 04/05/2013
    Need more casinos for degenerate gamblers? There aren't enough if them in the area?
    SoverignCitizen
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:25 PM, 04/05/2013
    William Penn is rolling in his grave! Repeal gambling entirely because it is and will be nothing but a cancer.
    American.Dude61
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:50 PM, 04/05/2013
    I highly doubt the City will allow anything like this. The fatcats don't want something to bring in jobs. They want statues, parks and art museums to get money for themselves and stiff all the other working class taxpayers. Trust me.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:10 PM, 04/05/2013
    Yeah, that's right Tammy. That's why we'll never have a casino in Philadelphia--because the fatcats don't want it. Oh, wait. Isn't there already a casino in Philadelphia? How did that happen?

    Do you realize how incredible stupid and naive your statement is?

    What fatcat is getting money for themselves from parks and statues and museums? What money do parks and statues generate? How many of each have we created in the last decade?

    Ninny
    Tatt2
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:10 PM, 04/05/2013
    When governments make vices legal you’re left with no other choice but to put regulations into the laws that govern these vices. When it comes to the gaming industry vice I know that putting regulations into gaming laws things like No 24/7 Gambling, No Free Booze, No Smoking, No Check Cashing, No Interest Free Credit, No Free Play, No Comps, and making casino operators send Casino Monthly Statements along with making them and their employees intervene when their patrons are gambling excessively will stop the ‘BREEDING’ of compulsive casino gambling degenerates who will become criminals. These regulations will also make it an even playing field for business owners that are within a 10 to 20 mile radius of casinos, especially those who have liquor, food, and entertainment licensees.

    To learn more about this ‘VICE’ know today as ‘GAMING’ go on line and Google-up Bill Kearney on casino gambling.
    Comped88


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