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Will Banner Wield Cleaver in Cleveland?

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Will Banner Wield Cleaver in Cleveland?

POSTED: Friday, August 3, 2012, 10:26 AM
Few tears were shed by Eagles players or fans when Joe Banner stepped down as team president. (Yong Kim/Staff Photographer)

BETHLEHEM -- With former Eagles president Joe Banner expected to become president of the Cleveland Browns any minute now, NFL observers seem to think he will immediately clean house at the Browns’ front office. I guess I can buy that Browns prez Mike Holmgren can start packing, because Banner is going to take that role.

But two things on the rest of the operation:

1. Nobody fires their football people en masse in August or September. That would be chaos. It would also send a really bad message to the whole organization and the fans – that you don’t give people a chance, that you rule capriciously.

2. Who, exactly, are Joe Banner’s football people, who would swoop in to replace the fired folks? I posed this question to someone who knows Banner well, and he had no answers. Most of the football guys who have left the Eagles over the years left on no better terms with Banner than with anyone else; Tom Modrak almost certainly isn’t booking any Cleveland flights. Ditto Jason Licht. Mike Lombardi was an Eagles personnel guy back in the ‘90s, and he had a good relationship with Banner, but Lombardi has been out of the league and on TV for five years now. And no organization is letting anybody under contract leave, even for a better job, in August or September.

So, I don’t think Cleveland GM Tom Heckert is going anywhere this season. Will he stay on long-term? Banner knows Heckert, who, of course, ran personnel for the Eagles. I never got the impression they were close. I think Banner will do what a smart, prudent leader does – he will use the season to assess and explore, talk to people, figure out what he has and what he needs. Change will probably be less sweeping and abrupt than some folks seem to think.

Here’s a thought, totally off the top of my head: Some of the people closest to Banner in this business are agents. (No, not Drew Rosenhaus.) It is not unheard of in the NFL for someone to change sides of the fence. I would not be shocked if Joe went that way to fill an executive post, eventually.

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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:45 AM, 08/03/2012
    I'm really glad that Banner was able to do what he said he was going to do when he exited the Eagles organization. This puts to rest all the talk about being forced out by Lurie. Now, he's in an ownership position that he never would have achieved with the Eagles. In fact, it's a job Fat Andy would kill to have. Good luck, Joe.
    1republican
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:40 PM, 08/03/2012
    Maybe Banner hires Fat Andy as GM when Andy gets fired after going 8-8 and missing the playoffs again this season. One thing is for sure....all of this stuff about Banner and the Browns will sure make the opening game of the season more interesting. If the Eagles lose to an obviously inferior Browns team headed up by Joe Banner, it will set a negative tone for their whole season.
    SteveS11
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:10 AM, 08/03/2012
    ...and Philly fans care why about Banner????
    KIBecker
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:10 AM, 08/03/2012
    ...and Philly fans care why about Banner????
    KIBecker
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:52 AM, 08/03/2012
    Maybe Holmgren is the only guy Andy would ever let GM.
    johnnydomino
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:04 PM, 08/03/2012
    Every Clevelan linebacker, receiver and safety making over league minimum is done. Nickels.
    snakeplissken
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:09 PM, 08/03/2012
    Joe Banner's football people are accountants, just like Joe. If I am a Cleveland fan I am mortified that actual football people will be replaced with accountants and various other Fordham Law graduates. Cleveland will be the new Gold Standard.
    coloradoeagle
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:20 PM, 08/03/2012
    We will be able to sign Trent Richardson in two years as Banner won't re-up that contract. 1- 2 punch of Shady and Rischardson will be nice.
    dmanphilly
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:41 PM, 08/03/2012
    Well, he is on his own now...and he can't blame Andy, Donovan, Michael or Jeffery any more....and we shall see, we shall see....If arrogance works he will work a miricle there...but unless he has changed his attitude and his people skills...(insert def of insantity here) the Browns will go nowhere and in 5 years he will be gone....and it will be true justice to see him fail there as his heavy handedness failed here....
    nuggett
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:43 PM, 08/03/2012
    joe banner will have the browns in the superbowl before lurie, roseman and reid get back there
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:44 PM, 08/03/2012
    colorado, if you a browns fan, i think you accept any change. their "football people" should be trashmen judging by the results.
    AbeVigoda
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:25 PM, 08/04/2012
    good point. it is the Browns we are talking about after all.
    coloradoeagle
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:45 PM, 08/03/2012
    They have any good LB's??
    Serge_Matthews
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:58 PM, 08/03/2012
    Cleveland?????
    billtfla
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:42 PM, 08/03/2012
    nuggett- You're right. Unfortunately, now your team and it's "fans" will have to take some accountability for whatever happens this season. You've successfully thrown dam near everyone possible under the bus, so I'm eagerly waiting for the next scapegoat. Joke.
    jevans


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