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What Ryans means for Eagles' draft

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What Ryans means for Eagles' draft

POSTED: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 1:09 PM
Boston College's Luke Kuechly is still a possibility for the Eagles, even after the Birds traded for DeMeco Ryans. (Michael Conroy/AP Photo)

Now that the Eagles have found their 2012 starting middle linebacker, what impact will the acquisition of DeMeco Ryans have on who they might take in the first round of the draft next month?

Prior to Tuesday’s trade, most mock drafts had the Eagles selecting Boston College linebacker Luke Kuechly with their first-round pick, the 15th overall. Because of his impressive showing at the scouting combine in Indianapolis last month, Kuechly probably wouldn’t have made it to 15, but the thinking was the middle-linebacker-needy Eagles would target him and find a way to move up and get him.

Now?

Well, Kuechly, who scouts think could be a Day 1 starter both in the middle and on the strong side, still certainly could be a possibility, depending on the Eagles’ opinion right now of Jamar Chaney, Akeem Jordan and Moise Fokou.

Defensive coordinator Juan Castillo moved Chaney from MIKE to SAM at the beginning of training camp last year because he said the SAM spot was a more critical position in his defense. But after rookie Casey Matthews struggled in the middle in the first two games, Chaney was moved back inside. Whether Castillo and linebackers coach Mike Caldwell still are bullish on Chaney at SAM remains to be seen.

Fokou opened the season as the starting weakside linebacker, moved to SAM after Matthews was benched, and made five starts there before being replaced by Jordan. Jordan did a nice job in his eight starts at SAM. The Eagles held opponents to 3.7 yards per carry those eight games.

While the Eagles got Ryans for next to nothing (a fourth-round pick and a swap of third-round picks with the Texans), they still have to pay him $5.8 million next season, which is more money than they’ve ever paid a linebacker. Given that and the fact that they’ve never valued linebackers very high, would they also then take a linebacker in the first round? Not seeing it.

If you eliminate Kuechly from the first-round equation, there’s several different ways the Eagles could go with that first round pick. They could take a defensive tackle. It’s probably the deepest position in the draft. As many as seven could go in the first round. It’s not a position of absolute need for the Eagles. But Cullen Jenkins turned 31 in January and Mike Patterson is coming off some tricky brain surgery. The draft’s top three DTs – Dontari Poe, Michael Brockers and Fletcher Cox – all should be within the Eagles’ reach, if not at 15, then close enough for a trade-up.

After spending second-round picks on safeties in the last two drafts, would the Eagles use their first-round pick on the only first-round worthy safety in the draft, Alabama’s Mark Barron? Probably not.

My sense is that the Eagles view their safety situation a little more positively than you and I. Even if they don’t add a safety in free agency, they still have high expectations for Jaiquawn Jarrett, who they took in the second round last year and spent most of his rookie season on the bench. The fact that Barron, who is recovering from double-hernia surgery, still hasn’t worked out for scouts, makes him a little bit of a wildcard. The 6-2, 218-pound run-enforcer is scheduled to work out next week. We’ll see if the Eagles send anybody to watch him.

With the re-signing of left guard Evan Mathis, the Eagles have their entire starting offensive line coming back. But they still need to find somebody to back up tackles Jason Peters and Todd Herremans. There’s plenty of journeymen-types they could bring in, but given Andy Reid’s fondness for linemen, it wouldn’t totally shock me if they took an offensive tackle like Iowa’s Riley Reiff, Stanford’s Jonathan Martin or Ohio State’s Mike Adams in the first round. Peters is the best left tackle in the game, but he turned 30 in January and hasn’t played a full season since 2006.

Then there’s quarterback. Mike Vick will be the Eagles’ starting quarterback this season. That we know. What we don’t know is who will be the starter beyond 2012. Vick, who will turn 32 in June, has five years left on his deal. But the Eagles are only financially committed to him through this season.

Vick didn’t play well last season. Finished 23rd in interception percentage, 25th in fourth-quarter passing, 26th in third-down passing and had six red-zone turnovers.

The Eagles are hopeful that, with a full offseason of field and classroom prep, he’ll rebound with a big year in 2012 and everyone in Philadelphia, including Vick, will live happily ever after.

At the same time, they’ve got to consider their options if the 2012 Vick plays like the 2011 one. They’ve got to have a plan for the future. Mike Kafka? I don’t think so, but maybe Reid and Marty Mornhinweg do. Trent Edwards? Uh, no.

Obviously, they’ve got no shot at Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III, who will be the first two players taken, or even Ryan Tannehill, who could go third or fourth, and certainly no lower than seventh.

But what about the next three highest rated QBs, Michigan State’s Kirk Cousins or Oklahoma State’s Brandon Weeden or Arizona State’s Brock Osweiler? None of the three are expected to go as high as 15th, but one, two or even all three of them could go later in the first round or early in the second. Osweiler, who is recovering from a foot injury suffered in Arizona State’s bowl game, will work out for NFL teams next week.

The Eagles obviously have a lot of experience with trading down. It’s how they wound up with Kevin Kolb in ’07. With two second-round picks in their draft arsenal already, they could drop down, grab one of the quarterbacks and pick up some more Day 2 ammo to address some of their other needs.

Then again, they might just decide to mess with our heads again and take another defensive end.

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Comments  (59)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:17 PM, 03/21/2012
    Now that the Eagles have a quality Linebacker, maybe they could draft a new second baseman for the Phils?
    ngfs66
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:17 PM, 03/21/2012
    "Vick didn’t play well last season. Finished 23rd in interception percentage, 25th in fourth-quarter passing, 26th in third-down passing and had six red-zone turnovers."



    osi is hurt boohoo
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:26 PM, 03/21/2012
    I think the Eagles feel fine with Chaney, Rolle, Jordan, and Ryans, but I'd take a linebacker in round two or three.
    armchairGM
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:37 PM, 03/21/2012
    Reid loves linemen. He will draft a DT.
    ej610
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:40 PM, 03/21/2012
    A real quarterback!!!
    sackvicknow
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:52 PM, 03/21/2012
    Don't need any draft choices. DeShort Jerkson GUARANTEED a SB. conVicktim be fillin' it.
    autolykos
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:25 PM, 03/21/2012
    OMG! I wish they stop talking bout Luke Kuechely! REID WILL NEVER DRAFT A LB FIRST ROUND! This man is still gonna try to prove you wrong even when his Job is on the line this year
    Ace-Philadelphia
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:58 PM, 03/21/2012
    The Eagles are at a similar place as back in 2003 where they have no glaring needs and can start drafting for best available depth. So yes, they are ready to challenge for the Supe this year or next.
    MidGreen
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:55 PM, 03/21/2012
    unlike past seasons this draft as long as we grab the best player on the board its a win for us. If we grab a top DT or WR i would be okay with that. Yes desean got his money but that doesnt mean the WR group couldnt use more competition. I watched plenty of preseason and regular season games on Cooper and Avant to know we could use a more talented WR via the draft or free agency. Why not help vick out with a 6'3 receiver like michael floyd with great hands or get the best TE on the board for round 2. Our offense is good and ranked top of the league from a points perspective yes, but when you watch the games against tough teams we struggle. Drop passes, 3 and outs, turnovers our offense needs some work too. Not just from play calling but players. Take the best player on the board and we'll be fine.
    Yes_General
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:35 PM, 03/21/2012
    I think it's going to be a de. One of the top de will still be there at 15, and our starters are not young. Plus Andy loves to keep throwing fast balls.
    dta
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:44 PM, 03/21/2012
    I would say they trade down for a QB or up for a D tackle.
    sore richard
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:16 PM, 03/21/2012
    San Fran beat us pretty good the last time we played them. Said we had no HEART!!! Now they have Randy Moss and Mario Manningham. Im okay with Maclin and Desean's over all game. BUT we need to figure out the WR situation. we need to compete with San Fran, Giants, Dallas, Packers. Bring in Plax and draft a TE round2. Problem solved. and DT round 1 everybodys happy. I think there would be less public debate if we grabbed Michael Floyd. Plax could help us win but some fans can barely stand Vick let alone another player who recently served jail time. Thats why i say grab Floyd round 1 give vick the Help he needs, then Linebacker round 2. Our current DT group is pretty good. Landri's motor kinda reminds me of Justin Smith with san fran. Always near the ball. We have a good rotation there. Hope they re-sign shady and landri next
    Yes_General
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:17 PM, 03/21/2012
    Fans who think the Eagles will draft Kuechly or another LB early as a backup plan are kidding themselves. If Andy stays true to form, they won't take another DT either, even if the draft IS loaded with DTs. Reid still obviously thinks he can coach up the LB group he has, even if Ryans goes down during training camp. God knows who Reid and Roseman will select, but it won't be a recommendation in any reality-based mock draft out there. If they think the team needs another "below the radar" high-motor defensive end, that's what they will do. They both know they will not be fired. Lurie still loves him some Andy, the coach with "intangibles." And Howie Baby is "one of the brightest young guys in the league." Reid is here for two more years and we will be once again subjected to his "genius" picks. Another 8-8 or 7-9 season - I am not hopeful for a better record this year - too many "ifs."
    NM Eagle fan


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