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Monday, November 24, 2008

Donovan McNabb will be the starting quarterback on Thursday night against Arizona, coach Andy Reid announced.

“Donovan is the quarterback for this football team,” Reid said toward the end of his Monday news conference. “I don’t want to leave here until you understand that.” 

  Then Reid got up and abruptly left the NovaCare auditorium.

   Earlier when asked whether McNabb would start the final five games, Reid said, “As I sit here right now, he’s my quarterback, my starting quarterback. If I felt differently, I would start the other guy.”

   Presumably, Reid got exasperated as reporters repeatedly tried to pin down the length of McNabb's leash. Reid never said whether it was one play, one series, one quarter, or the rest of the season. But he was given a chance to declare McNabb would start the rest of the way, and he declined.

    McNabb was pulled at halftime of the Eagles' ugly loss to Baltimore on Sunday. McNabb was 8-for-18 for 59 yards, threw two awful interceptions and had a fumble.

McNabb learned that he was being yanked from quarterbacks coach Pat Shurmur. Reid met with the quarterback privately after the game for about 10 minutes.

“That’s not what we do," Reid said when questioned about not telling McNabb himself. "That’s how things are. I really don’t care what anyone else thinks about that. That’s how we do it. The coach tells the player and then I address it afterward … It was a tight time window. It’s not a matter of disrespecting Donovan or any other player for that matter. That’s why they have coaches to do those things.”

 McNabb was on the sideline and watched Kevin Kolb struggle in the second half. Kolb was 10-for-23 for 73 yards with two inteceptions, including one returned an NFL-record 108 yards by Ed Reed.

Reid said the decision had nothing to do with the way Kolb played or the way McNabb played. As he did Sunday, he again spoke of  McNabb taking a step back to take a step forward.

“I think it was the right thing to do,” Reid said. “I would not change my decision on what I did yesterday.”

Reid said he had spoken to both quarterbacks this morning, but declined to say what he said.

Asked what he thought benching McNabb accomplished, Reid said: “We’ll see. We’ll see.”

Reid said he had confidence McNabb would be able to turn things around despite his recent struggles. He declared he knew McNabb better than anyone in the auditorium knew him.

“Donovan is going out to play, man,” Reid said. “That is what he’s doing. Sometimes it is good to step back and look at things from a little different angle. I expect him to go out and play his heart out.”

He also said that he was not worried about the reception that McNabb might receive from the crowd at the Linc.

"We can't worry about all that, man," Reid said. "You take care of what you can control."

The Eagles' offense has not scored a touchdown in 99 minutes, 29 seconds of game action since the third quarter against Cincinnati and has only one TD in 140:30.

The Birds will practice today and tomorrow and then have a walkthrough Wednesday in advance of Thursday's game. McNabb is scheduled to meet with the media tomorrow.

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And the fallout continues from other precincts as well ...

Here is Cris Collinsworth on NBC's pregame show last night:

"Donovan learned last week the game could end in a tie, this week he learned the game could end at the half. The only thing worse than Donovan McNabb was his replacement and the decision by Andy Reid to replace him. You do not take a kid who has not practiced and put him in at halftime on the road against this Baltimore Ravens killer defense. The season ended today for the Philadelphia Eagles. Donovan McNabb is finished in Philly is what I believe."

And Jimmy Johnson on the Fox pregame show, and that was before McNabb was pulled: “It’s time for a change with McNabb and Reid should be back.”

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In injury news, running backs Brian Westbrook (knee, ankle) and Correll Buckhalter (MCL sprain), and cornerback Asante Samuel (stinger) did not practice. Defensive tackle Broderick Bunkley, who injured a knee during the game, did practice. 

Posted by Daily News staff @ 12:00 PM  Permalink | 154 comments
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Posted 12:07 PM, 11/24/2008
MaddenFL
...and let him call the plays too.
Posted 12:08 PM, 11/24/2008
Dierte
Let the bashing begin...
Posted 12:08 PM, 11/24/2008
Dierte
Let the bashing begin...
Posted 12:11 PM, 11/24/2008
Bob65S
No surprise that Andy the hardhead Reid went back to Mcnab. We Eagle fans are going to have to continue to suffer with this pair of losers for a long time. I hope they lose every game maybe maybe that will put pressure on this team to get rid of both of these losers.
Posted 12:13 PM, 11/24/2008
Gibba Mang
Then I don't understand Andy's decision to bring in Kolb yesterday. He's a mess, he's all over the place.
Posted 12:14 PM, 11/24/2008
nuggetsfan
thank God
Posted 12:14 PM, 11/24/2008
nuggetsfan
thank God
Posted 12:16 PM, 11/24/2008
T-Mac
Well at least Andy made one right call.
Posted 12:16 PM, 11/24/2008
Dierte
This is an absolute mess right now, it is going to be very interesting in the stands on Thursday night.
Posted 12:16 PM, 11/24/2008
The Beast
I think McNabb is great and appreciate everything he did for the Eagles, but stick a fork in him, he is done... He is another McNair and Culpepper at this point. Eagles will never win a championship with him and that is the goal, isn't it?
Posted 12:17 PM, 11/24/2008
Jamal Hassan
great press conf fat andy you smug pig
Posted 12:18 PM, 11/24/2008
johnnymoose270
thank god, i have tickets for the thanksgiving game, and i'd be dipped in sh*t if i'd drive 6 hours to watch korn on the kolb hand the game over. come on people, mcnabb is in the midst of a 3 game slump. can anyone think of a qb who hasn't had one? he has the best interception per pass attempt ratio in nfl history. he has carried us all on his back to several postseasons. he is a pro-bowl caliber, future hall of fame quarterback. i think i like our chances quite a bit more with mcnabb. i am an eagles fan first and mcnabb has the ability to put us where we need to be to win. if he wakes up here maybe a run....?
Posted 12:18 PM, 11/24/2008
evolutionary
Not surprised. I wouldn't have put Kolb in the second half yesterday (solely because he hadn't practiced w/first string all last week), nor would I put him in against a playoff bound team on short practice/rest. Until they're mathematically out of it, you have to play McNabb unfortunately, and hopefully flip flop the run/pass ratio, though I know they won't (and probably can't).
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Posted 12:19 PM, 11/24/2008
evolutionary
Beast - it's scary how similar McNabb's career path has been to McNair and Culpepper's isn't it? I think about that all the time.
Posted 12:19 PM, 11/24/2008
Bob65S
this will do a great deal for Kolb's confidence. Andy Reid is an arrogant moron.
Posted 12:21 PM, 11/24/2008
johnnymoose270
oh by the way, to all of you philly sports writers; good instinct on whether or not kolb would remain the qb. "mcnabb is toast" is my personal favorite. i actually only read this garbage when i need a good laugh.
Posted 12:21 PM, 11/24/2008
Sgasda4
johnnymoose, i agree with you...its a slump...this season isnt over yet
Posted 12:23 PM, 11/24/2008
Bob65S
johnnymoose: you are dreaming. Mcnabb had his chance with this team and so did Reid. They should both go and until we do you and I will suffer. Have fun at the game filling Jeffery's pockets with your hard earned money while McNabb and reid have another meltdown.
Posted 12:25 PM, 11/24/2008
Bob65S
Mcnabb has been in a slump since he threw up in the Super Bowel huddle.
Posted 12:29 PM, 11/24/2008
The Wanker
Maybe Andy's been sneaking some of his sons 'secret' stash of goodness..... Guess this 'Copper' standard has finally run its course.
Posted 12:29 PM, 11/24/2008
42Homestead
The fact is folks, that without any running game, no QB can be sucessful, let alone against that bunch of Ravens. Westbrook is the straw that stirs the Eagles, and he is clearly hurting. I think they lose out and go 5-10-1. Ouch.
Posted 12:30 PM, 11/24/2008
SouthPhillyRob
Let's go through the Reid / McNabb body of work: 2002: NFC Championship loss to TB. Reid refuses to run the ball. McChoker throws pick to Ronde Barber for 92 yd TD. 2003: NFC Championship loss to Carolina. Reid calls conservative game. McChoker throws 3 INTs. 2004: Super Bowl XXXIX. McChoker throws 3 INTs, and Reid eats up 4 minutes of clock in the waning minutes of the game. Donovan pukes in the huddle. 2006: New Orleans Saints Playoff Game. Westbrook only gets 13 carries (has 113 yards total). Reid punts the ball down by 3 ensuring a Saints win. I've had enough!!
Posted 12:31 PM, 11/24/2008
The Beast
Evolutionary, his legs were a big part of his game just like McNair and Culpepper, now they are gone. No one is afraid of him running at this point. Also, did Michael Jordan ever have a huge smile on his face when was losing and the clock was running out? Need a QB with killer instinct. Maybe Kolb, maybe not, but someone other than McNabb definitely! And I am a McNabb fan, but more a realist...
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Posted 12:33 PM, 11/24/2008
takeitdeep
Keep McNabb(though it's not going to happen now) and get rid of Reid. A new coaching philosophy is needed.
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Posted 12:35 PM, 11/24/2008
Voytas
Reid stated "I would not change my decision on what I did yesterday.” No kidding, tell us something we don't know you stubborn mule. That's why he never learns from his mistakes, because in his mind he never makes any.
Posted 12:37 PM, 11/24/2008
SouthPhillyRob
Let's go through the Reid / McNabb body of work: 2002: NFC Championship loss to TB. Reid refuses to run the ball. McChoker throws pick to Ronde Barber for 92 yd TD. 2003: NFC Championship loss to Carolina. Reid calls conservative game. McChoker throws 3 INTs. 2004: Super Bowl XXXIX. McChoker throws 3 INTs, and Reid eats up 4 minutes of clock in the waning minutes of the game. Donovan pukes in the huddle. 2006: New Orleans Saints Playoff Game. Westbrook only gets 13 carries (has 113 yards total). Reid punts the ball down by 3 ensuring a Saints win. I've had enough!!
Posted 12:37 PM, 11/24/2008
hunglikeaton
The Tonner predicts mayhem in the Linc on Thursday. It will be remiscent of the 49ers game years ago in the Vet when someone shot the flare gun off. The Tonner just hopes nobody gets hurt. Mark his words though, it will be ugly.
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Posted 12:40 PM, 11/24/2008
AllDawk_AllTheTime
What a shock - Andy thinks he's right in how he handled things.
Posted 12:40 PM, 11/24/2008
palmyra21
i'm sure the play calling will change too. Instead of running 34% of the time, they'll run 34.1% of the time.
Posted 12:41 PM, 11/24/2008
PennGuy86
A.J. Feeley for starting QB!
Posted 12:42 PM, 11/24/2008
PattyB23
Start practicing your boos now. It's going to be a long night. At this point, I want it to fall apart and have them finish 5-10-1. That's the only way anything will change. If they finish 7-8-1 or somewhere around there, Reid, Banner, and Lurie will delude themselves into thinking they are just a hair off and the same team will come back next year. We need to start over.
Posted 12:42 PM, 11/24/2008
PattyB23
Start practicing your boos now. It's going to be a long night. At this point, I want it to fall apart and have them finish 5-10-1. That's the only way anything will change. If they finish 7-8-1 or somewhere around there, Reid, Banner, and Lurie will delude themselves into thinking they are just a hair off and the same team will come back next year. We need to start over.
Posted 12:42 PM, 11/24/2008
PattyB23
Start practicing your boos now. It's going to be a long night. At this point, I want it to fall apart and have them finish 5-10-1. That's the only way anything will change. If they finish 7-8-1 or somewhere around there, Reid, Banner, and Lurie will delude themselves into thinking they are just a hair off and the same team will come back next year. We need to start over.
Posted 12:42 PM, 11/24/2008
PattyB23
Start practicing your boos now. It's going to be a long night. At this point, I want it to fall apart and have them finish 5-10-1. That's the only way anything will change. If they finish 7-8-1 or somewhere around there, Reid, Banner, and Lurie will delude themselves into thinking they are just a hair off and the same team will come back next year. We need to start over.
Posted 12:43 PM, 11/24/2008
groffrv
looks like we are having mcreid for thanksgiving gobble gobble
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Posted 12:44 PM, 11/24/2008
groffrv
looks like we are having mcreid for thanksgiving gobble gobble
Posted 12:46 PM, 11/24/2008
potus
has andy resigned yet?
Posted 12:47 PM, 11/24/2008
Joseph060701
Johnymoose I don't know if you are more stupid to drive 6 hours for every home game to watch give Jeffrey " I owe the city 8 million " Lurie rape the fans each week or you must be living in 2004 to think McNabb can still carry this team based on what he did 4 seasons ago becuase he has sucked since the Super Bowl
Posted 12:49 PM, 11/24/2008
Mark1npt
Jamal, you really don't like pork, do you?
Posted 12:50 PM, 11/24/2008
rwright611
The Eagles are not going to the playoffs. It doesn't matter who starts Thursday, or who plays the 2nd half Thursday. We'll be getting the same garbage served to us whether it's turkey or duck because we have the same washed up cook serving it to us, Big Red. I'd rather have the Swedish Chef from the muppets coaching the team at this point.
Posted 12:50 PM, 11/24/2008
T-Mac
KING, I thought exactly the same thing earlier...Kolb reminds me very much of McMahon.
Posted 12:51 PM, 11/24/2008
dave999924
say what you want to about McNabb, but until they have a power running game and give westy a break, have receivers (at least 1) who is a serious threat other than DJ and an O line that can open a whole big enough for a mouse to get through, it doesn't matter who is behind center. #5 needs better accuracy hands down as this is inexcusable. needs to start running again and create plays with his legs. Andy has no choice but to play #5 and try and salvage anything he possibly can. Kolb will not help Andy plead for his job at the end of the year...or end of the week. I say let Andy go, bring in some help for D-Mac and give him a 1 year deal to see what he can do with some legit weapons. mark it down, once he leaves this town it will come back and haunt us just like anything else. Oddly enough, with 3 games against the NFC still, funny things can happen and the cowboys and skins are not playing consistent ball either. Here we go.
Posted 12:52 PM, 11/24/2008
mick314
Coach Doubtfire will be introduced beneath the Gateway Arch by Feb 1st. (possibly later if crews do not finish arch width expansion in time). Meanwhile he will wile away his time at PA/NJ Golden Archs. DMac will be in Chicago, KK will be here and AJ will be in some joint with Dan Gross and Leslie VanBoob.
Posted 12:53 PM, 11/24/2008
Dierte
McNabb should be the starter, he doesn't deserve to go out like this for all that he has done for the team/city. Obviously he is gone next year, and will go on to another team that would love to have him and we will get to see what so many people thing is our future franchse in Kevin Corn on the Kolb. Becareful what you wish for...i think it will be another 10-15 years before we sniff the playoffs...and that's only if we fire Reid soon.
Posted 12:55 PM, 11/24/2008
ForrestAveDave
that game was Donovans chance to seperate himself from the mess reid made. unfortunately, he served up a turkey of a half with the ints and fumble. now lurie has to choose where to send the pink slips. I still like BILL COWER coming in and giving Mcnabb the starts while either drafting a qb or giving kolb some more reps and watching him and 5 fight it out in training camp. obviously either mcnabb will accept the backup role, or we get a seasoned qb to accept that role as needed. After saying all that, I think the pinks go to reid and the staff. Get a GM seperate from the coach. We need talent and this staff seemed to lose its focus in the last few years. time to make a clean break from this pass-first-and-last regime.
Posted 12:59 PM, 11/24/2008
gordy
Selfish move by A.R., it may give us a better chance to win Thursday but it sets the team back. He only cares about saving his own skin right now. I gaurantee he has lost this team, therefore he has to go!
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Posted 01:02 PM, 11/24/2008
superbowlshuffle
The two main characteristics of successful teams in today's NFL are balanced and preparedness. Under coach Reid, we lack the ability to run the football with success against elite teams, and tend to throw way too much. Also, in clutch situations the players as well as the coaching staff fail to execute - a lack of preparation. After 10 years, you would thing these things would not be an issue. In order for the Eagles to move forward as a franchise, we must part with Donovan and Andy, and move in a different direction.
Posted 01:03 PM, 11/24/2008
Jeffrey
At least now we all know that Kolb is not the answer to this football team's problems and can start getting serious about things.
Posted 01:08 PM, 11/24/2008
daveH
kolb = interception practice. his chicken arms scare me. he'll prolly be broken in 1/2 before he can toss up too many to imaginary receivers. i bet we get a few goodr eceivers now, and hav a sucky QB! hah! the joke's on us again. im sending my jersey to jeff lurie.
Posted 01:12 PM, 11/24/2008
brian2706
Career path is similar to Culpepper's? Did I miss Culpepper going to a Super Bowl and 4 consecutive NFC Championships?
Posted 01:14 PM, 11/24/2008
gordy
After half time McNabb should pull himself and tell the equipment manager to tell Andy!
Posted 01:15 PM, 11/24/2008
EmanuelP
@ evolutionary - high draft pick, high expectations, high salary, no championship...new team. Welcome to the NFL.
Posted 01:16 PM, 11/24/2008
glennboe
Andy Reid looks like a coach who has lost control. Yesterday's move was a desperate one. He handled the move and the post game news conference in a less than professional fashion. I think that if he didn't lose most of the locker room after the Bengal game, he was successful after this latest display. I believe that Reid has lost a lot of respect from McNabb, and most of the players. He scapegoated McNabb, when he is the primary person to blame for this collapse. I believe that McNabb has put more pressure on himself because of the inept and imbalanced game plan. Let's not forget that a McNabb led offense put 30 plus points on the board against the Cowboys and Giants. They should have been W's. The defense did not do the job in those games, though we heard more criticism about McNabb. They lost the Bears and Redskins games because the offensive line and running game came up small. I am not the biggest McNabb fan, but there is plenty of blame to go around- Andy Reid, offensive line, defensive line, special teams, running game, you name it. The Eagles better bring in and hire a bright football mind to run football operations, and relieve Reid of all of his front office responsibilities. It would be up to the new hire to decide what to do about Reid. If Reid is retained, I suggested mandating that he lets the offensive coordinator have complete control of running the offense. If he doesn't trust Marty to call plays, hire someone who he can. If Reid refuses to stop micromanaging, he should be let go.
Posted 01:21 PM, 11/24/2008
daveH
kolb = interception practice. his chicken arms scare me. he'll prolly be broken in 1/2 before he can toss up too many to imaginary receivers. i bet we get a few goodr eceivers now, and hav a sucky QB! hah! the joke's on us again. im sending my jersey to jeff lurie.
Posted 01:22 PM, 11/24/2008
daveH
F A T A N D Y
Posted 01:26 PM, 11/24/2008
P.H.I
Reid sucks,Kolb definitely sucks,sesaon's over.
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Posted 01:28 PM, 11/24/2008
cardona21
Whether McNabb stays or leaves. KOLB IS NOT THE ANSWER. I for one hopes Donovan will be around next year and the year after that. Yeah, he may not be having his best year but this year will be better that any year Kolb "MIGHT" have in his career. So it's half time against the Ravens and Andy Reid decides that Kolb gives the Eagles a better chance to win.....Am I missing something?
Posted 01:29 PM, 11/24/2008
nizzies
evolutionary u are a tool how do you figure that...
Posted 01:29 PM, 11/24/2008
chgtown
Kolb is noway as good as McNabb. That's the bad part. We need to draft a quarterback!!!
Posted 01:31 PM, 11/24/2008
Justmy2cents
You can only play as good as they rest of the guys around you and frankly to try to pin the Eagles losses on McNabb is just unfair. He is still a good quarterback but if you don't have good coverage and people who can catch a ball than how is that all your fault?
Posted 01:32 PM, 11/24/2008
smithmic
It’s time to bench Andy! I still can’t get over how Andy dealt with the (McNabb, Andy and TO) wreck! Under Andy, the Eagles have ONLY HAD 1 True #1 WR (TO!). Remember, this is the same organization that got ride of Reggie White, Clyde Simmons, and a long… host of others. They need to keep McNabb and go after Chad Johnson. Oh wait, they might win and make it to the SB. Scrap! We can’t have that, to many wins I forgot….
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Posted 01:50 PM, 11/24/2008
EmanuelP
For McNabb's sake, I wish he was benched for the season. Why? Because this Arizona game is exactly the circumstance and time of year that he typically gets injured. He definitely won't be back in 2009, so we should let him go(healthy) and make his money elsewhere.
Posted 02:02 PM, 11/24/2008
nupekase
I heard a caller on a radio talk show this morning who lived in Denver during the early part of John Elway's career. John was experiencing a pass happy offense with the "three amigos", but had absolutely no running game. The Denver organization got rid of the coaches, Dan Reeves and Wade Phillips, instead of the QB. They added a running game with Terrell Davis and a new coach, Mike Shanahan and they won 2 superbowls. I would rather Andy leave, we give Donovan a solid #1 WR, a real fullback and then let's see what's really good!
Posted 02:05 PM, 11/24/2008
northeastguy
I THINK ANDY AND MCNABB SHOULD JUST PACK THERE BAGS AND GO! THE WAY HES BEEN COACHING HE SHOULD GO RITE TO JAIL FOR STEALING MONEY FROM LURIE
Posted 02:07 PM, 11/24/2008
pennfan
I agree with the Beast. McNabb has been great for the Eagles and he will be great for another team next year (after the wake-up call of losing his job here. But he is too complacent (as is Reid). Yes Kolb has not had enough time with the starting team but hey that's life. The future has to start now. McNabb is not taking us to the playoffs this year and he is not getting better he is getting older so won't take us there next year. It is a reality of professional sports that at some point you lose your job. That's life. Kolb is the future and the future is now.
Posted 02:09 PM, 11/24/2008
Voytas
Lets see, I'm going to be careful what I wish for and think about this really really hard to make sure I don't do something stupid. Ok, I still wish Andy Reid would step down and also wish for the Eagles to trade our winning quarterback who doesn't have what it takes to be a champion. This team jumped the shark quite awhile ago people. I wish for anything but watching Reid and/or McNabb even if it means we win three games next year. Nothing worse than consistently watching your team beat itself. Do you really think these guys are the last of the remaining people on the planet that can coach and quarterback a team to mediocrity on a consistent basis? Give some other knucklehead a chance, at least we will have new hope instead of no hope.
Posted 02:10 PM, 11/24/2008
Philg
Thank God there is no hard liquor sales at the linc, or else there would be thousands of drunken fans running onto the field at the end of the 3rd quarter, trying to roast fat andy and mcnabb.
Posted 02:11 PM, 11/24/2008
GANick
Who is going to run the ball on Thursday? Just kidding.
Posted 02:13 PM, 11/24/2008
dfal2510
Collingsworth said it correctly... terrible time to put an untested QB who hasnt practiced all week in a game against that D. McNabb doesnt want to be here anymore and Reid needs to go because he is terrible... also Kolb is not the answer, all you people who wanted him over McNabb good luck cause its gonna be 10 times worse.
Posted 02:15 PM, 11/24/2008
Michellemtsu
The whole team needs blown up. Andy, Donovan, everyone. The utter lack of talent on this team is scary. I hope we go 5-10-1, maybe then we'll get some serious change. But I doubt Lurie just as stubborn as Andy is. How long did it take for the Lions to fire Matt Millen? Because that's the kind of scenario we're looking at here...
Posted 02:17 PM, 11/24/2008
nizzies
you McNabb Bashers will finally get your wish in 5 weeks I hope he leaves that rat hole of a team and wins a bowl
Posted 02:18 PM, 11/24/2008
nizzies
you McNabb Bashers will finally get your wish in 5 weeks I hope he leaves that rat hole of a team and wins a bowl
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Posted 02:26 PM, 11/24/2008
obergruber
Lonewolf I got your back. Bleed calling you a bigot and a moron. What a joke. You were right about everything you said about DM. And there was nothing racist about what you said. It was obvious from his comments that the only one with an agenda was Bleed. It is easy to identify these less than smart bleeding heart liberals from their name calling and their idiotic comments. Reid screwed up big time by naming DM to start on Thursday, but there may be a silver lining because this may signal the end of Reid as well as DM. I just hate to see us miss this opportunity to give Kolb some game experience in preparation for next year. But hey, if this decision rids us of both Andy and McNabb it might be worth it
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Posted 02:36 PM, 11/24/2008
nervegenerator
This is actually a good year to dump Reid for Spagnulo of the Giants. It's always good to hire a coach from a division rival. I still think we should keep McNabb one more year. I fear if he leaves, he wins a super bowl for Minnesota or something.
Posted 02:38 PM, 11/24/2008
nuggett
this is arrogant andy's way to take the heat off himself....let donovan go in and when the team still can't do things right...andy will let donovan take the booing.....the truth is andy's scheme, his play calling, his draft chices, his rudeness, his arrogance is his downfall......andy...the time is yours and if you think you are feeling he heat today, know that it will get worse and worse as long as your draft choice are what they are.....plese go away and take Joe with you...
Posted 02:48 PM, 11/24/2008
tysephie
I think it's time to give Kolb a chance. They need to see him play a few full games to see his potential. Let him play out the rest of the season, because face it we're not making the playoffs. This way they can make a decision to stick with him next year or get another QB. McNabb and Reid are done.
Posted 02:50 PM, 11/24/2008
Bill1966
Bob65S: Not to worry. It's Mcnabbs swan song. His Last year as an Eagle. No way Eagles pay him 9 million next year when they are not even sure he is the starter. Reid might be back but Mcnabb will be somewhere else. For true Mcnabb supporters they should hope he is gone! Mcnabb can prove his worth once and for all on another team. But they better hope it's West Coast dink and dunk style or his stats will surely suffer and he will because known as 'the Fraud' Rush said he was.
Posted 02:51 PM, 11/24/2008
K_Ball
Mcnabb deserved to be benched 7 turnovers in 6 quaters of football. I've always been a fan of Mcnabb and defended him and Reid many times however I think it's time for a change. Thanks for the great years of service but we've decided to move in a different direction! we want to win a Super Bowl not just get close!
Posted 02:52 PM, 11/24/2008
33 YRS & COUNTING
There is no way in HELL that this overrated mediocrity is a Hall of Famer. No way, no how. What part of his being the single most overrated athlete in the history of Philadelphia sports, don't you undertand? He was a total media fabrication. Remeber when he was referred by the media as "Michael Jordan in Cleats"? Laughable!!
Posted 02:54 PM, 11/24/2008
EagleRob
I love Bob65S. Calling the winningest coach and Qb in our franchise loosers, shows you what type of fan this guy is...
Posted 02:56 PM, 11/24/2008
Sonny4Putt
I was a polite host yesterday and introduced some Iggles fans to the Lombardi Trophy...they have never seen one in Philly.. R A V E N S.......RAVENS!!!!!
Posted 02:56 PM, 11/24/2008
Sonny4Putt
I was a polite host yesterday and introduced some Iggles fans to the Lombardi Trophy...they have never seen one in Philly.. R A V E N S.......RAVENS!!!!!
Posted 02:58 PM, 11/24/2008
kcullinan
Why would Andy go and declare mcnabb the starter for one play, one series, one quarter, or the rest of the season? That would just be stupid...
Posted 03:00 PM, 11/24/2008
DangDemocrats
Hey Beast, that IS NOT the goal here in Philly. J. Lurie's business model is to win enough, just enough to keep us in attendance and paying for new stadiums. That's why we get NFC Championships but no Bowl.
Posted 03:01 PM, 11/24/2008
tysephie
McNabb and Reid got most of their wins (and NFC championships) when the Eagles were a slightly about average team in a league of average teams. Look at the Eagles in the last 2 seasons, when the rest of the league started to really play better ball.
Posted 03:01 PM, 11/24/2008
tysephie
McNabb and Reid got most of their wins (and NFC championships) when the Eagles were a slightly about average team in a league of average teams. Look at the Eagles in the last 2 seasons, when the rest of the league started to really play better ball.
Posted 03:08 PM, 11/24/2008
dankil13
Andy Reid is the biggest problem - from his player/personnel decisions, time management, game managemeent (ie- when to use the challenge flags, go for it on 4th down, etc), playing calling and leadership. He is a coward, and this team takes on the persona of its coach. The lack of discipline on this team is astonishing. GLewis makes horrible penalties on special teams on back-to-back weeks, and there are no consequences. He should have been cut today! Lito lets his man run right by him for a 60 yd TD, and nobody gets in his face. The lack of veteran leadership is also disappointing. Somebody needs to step up on the sidelines and get in somebody's face! BDawk? Runyan? Trotter wouldn't put up with the b/s and lack of effort! Also, the offensive's biggest problem with McNabb not being a real running threat or the team having a rushing attack is the team's we play do not have to worry about playing man-to-man and jamming our receivers. This makes it a lot easier to cover our less than adequate WR's. Reid absolutely needs to go! I wouldn't mind seeing Mcnabb in a more balanced attack, but with a $10M cap number next year, he will be gone as well. Kolb needs to start 3 or 4 games, so we can decided if he is the answer (based on what we saw yesterday, its an obvious no, but that isn't fair to judge him on that performance). Unfortunately, years of poor drafting by Reid has decimated the talent on this team. It will take quite a few years to rebuild, so it prob makes sense to trade B West to help move the process along.
Posted 03:14 PM, 11/24/2008
tdoc
"Donovan learned last week the game could end in a tie, this week he learned the game could end at the half." HILARIOUS!!!!
Posted 03:16 PM, 11/24/2008
Pao2819
I miss the good ol days with jeff garcia as our qb.. now that was something worth getting behind
Posted 03:17 PM, 11/24/2008
PhillySportsVet
When is Lurie going to get it. Three losses in the NFC Championships games one loss in the Super Bowl. Reason for all four losses, "REID & McNABB". Reid is too hard headed, he will not listen to anyone X McNabb. He is very conservative when the game is on the line. Play calling is sickening. McNabb chokes, time and time again. Not only did he lose all these games but the Eagles also lost TO. Big mistake, McFlabb should have gone. Mr Lurie, please wake up. Reid & McNabb are done in Philly. Move on and get a coach that will bring in new blood and a QB that can think at the same time he is playing.
Posted 03:18 PM, 11/24/2008
MJPD345
It doesn't matter who is in there taking snaps. Reids style of offensive football puts way too much pressure on the QB. Get a power running game and a blocking fullback.Run the bal and gain some respect.
Posted 03:21 PM, 11/24/2008
sw2surf
He's been more successful than McNair or Culpepper, but time is up. Gave it a fair shot, for at least a while. But that's it. Game over.
Posted 03:22 PM, 11/24/2008
smithmic
Unfair comparison Philly vs. New England they STILL HAVE MOSS with Brady out! A true #1 WR.
Posted 03:23 PM, 11/24/2008
JerseyCommonSense
Maybe Andy changed his mind when Donovan's mommy yelled at him.
Posted 03:23 PM, 11/24/2008
Delaware Doc
Hey Folks lets face it, this team is not very good, the defense is decent and has some players for the future, but overall, this team has gotten old, slow and complacent. No one tried to tackle Reed after his interception yesterday, they didn't care, Andy Reid has lost this team, the offensive line is a mess, the secondary has become ordinary, the safeties play is poor, we don't have a fullback or short yardage game, the receivers are weak except Jackson, we don't have a tight end who can catch or block, and we have no healthy running backs or good running backs to subsititute for the injured, as I said, "this team is not very good", there are way too many problems, come on Flyers and Sixers !!!
Posted 03:23 PM, 11/24/2008
Ms_Shar
I don't know why Andy took McNabb out in the first darn place. If he gets fired it will definately be deserved, I won't loose a bit of sleep. The Eagles have been playing like rookies for years. Like Barack said "It's time for Change"
Posted 03:28 PM, 11/24/2008
YouHaveGotToBeKidding
I hope McNabb takes the first snap, drops the ball and walks off the field. This team, nor this city, deserves him.
Posted 03:34 PM, 11/24/2008
drummerwinslow
"That's what we do." Just because Reid does it, doesn't make it right. In fact, more often than not, that makes it wrong.
Posted 03:35 PM, 11/24/2008
drummerwinslow
TDOC: Though I'm a McNabb supporter, I gotta admit that's pretty funny stuff!
Posted 03:36 PM, 11/24/2008
johnnymoose270
33 yrs, i'd bet 1000 dollars you booed mcnabb when he was drafted. you were wrong then, and you were wrong now. he has built a career out of making p*ss poor receivers look competent. eventually the convention center would collapse if everybody in philly leaned on it.
Posted 03:37 PM, 11/24/2008
albanykey
Do you compare McNair and Culpepper to McNabb b/c there are all black? If you did some research, you would see that McNabb's first ten years are very simliar to Favre's first ten years. The theme is good quarterback, badly coached team. Try Google for McNair and Culpepper and compare stats. McNabb's stats are clearly better. Culpepper had 3 good years (throwing to Chris Carter and Randy Moss), McNair had 3 good years. McNabb has had at least 6 good years. The 2008 Eagles have a good quarterback playing for a very poorly coached team. I would love to see a new coach (Cowher, Spags) come in with a smashmouth style - run the ball, stop the run, reduce turunovers, recievers who can get open and catch the football.
Posted 03:39 PM, 11/24/2008
Bob65S
Reid and Mcnabb are choke losers. What did they ever win??? Did they win a championship???? No I didn't think so. All I hear is silence. They make the same high school mistakes every sunday. They stink and for all of you fans who shell out money to watch this I feel sorry for you because all they care about is taking your hard earned money and laughing all the way to the bank.
Posted 03:44 PM, 11/24/2008
Bob65S
Let me make this point also. I love Ed Stafanski because he is from Philly and understands that we want to win championships and not just settle for a winning season. Laurie from La La land just wants to make money
Posted 03:54 PM, 11/24/2008
Bill1966
YouHaveGotToBeKidding: 'I hope McNabb takes the first snap, drops the ball and walks off the field.' I wouldn't be surprised ..except that part of him walking off the field.
Posted 04:02 PM, 11/24/2008
nickpa1
i wonder what andy had for lunch...
Posted 04:04 PM, 11/24/2008
Bob1
What an arrogant slob. "That's how we do it"... Well, the way you "do it" is low class. You should have gotten off of your fat rump and told the man face to face. Unless those statements over the years about being you being so close to him is a lie, like the rest of your public statements.
Posted 04:04 PM, 11/24/2008
Bob1
What an arrogant slob. "That's how we do it"... Well, the way you "do it" is low class. You should have gotten off of your fat rump and told the man face to face. Unless those statements over the years about being you being so close to him is a lie, like the rest of your public statements.
Posted 04:04 PM, 11/24/2008
Dierte
Bob565s, is Dan Marino a loser too? He never won a Super Bowl...love to hear your comeback on this one.
Posted 04:05 PM, 11/24/2008
dyemondav
Hey Johnnymoose, put down the pipe my friend. Hall of Fame? Hall of F**king fame? C'mon man. He's been in a slump since the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl. You tend to not throw too many interceptions on screen plays. I would rather see Randal or Jaws in the Hall of McNabb. How about the yawning before the game? How about not helping Kolb, Feeley and Morhinweg look at the overhead pictures. Hall Of F**king fame, Dude I want some of what your on!
Posted 04:11 PM, 11/24/2008
hud1519
at least we have two #1 picks next year...and at this losing rate, the eagles will have a pretty decent pick they could use for trade bait and get what they need in the offseason..keep the panthers #1..that should be in the low to mid 20s..hopefully this is a blessing in disguise....
Posted 04:15 PM, 11/24/2008
Dierte
Haha are you realy bashing McNabb cause he yawned? Geez man give the guy a break dyemondav.
Posted 04:20 PM, 11/24/2008
warbird
McNair could hit targets. DM has lost confidence in his skills. He presses every pass. He has trouble with 20 yard slants at this point. A change of atmosphere would be good for all involved.
Posted 04:23 PM, 11/24/2008
johnnymoose270
i'll bet you've never yawned at work
Posted 04:28 PM, 11/24/2008
Bill1966
Dyemondav: Dont bother with Johnnymoose or Mcnabb supporters like him. They can't make principled arguments. Trying to explain to them how the West Coast offence has fattened DMacs stats falls on deaf ears since they have a Mcnabb agenda. Millions of attempts = big yardage, short dinks and dunks and screens increase completion ratios with no dicernable chance for interceptions. It's hilarious how Mcnabb defenders try to debate. Its Mcnabbs final year and then we can finally begin to build a winner.
Posted 04:30 PM, 11/24/2008
elbe2k
his career is nothing like McNair or Culpepper.He has won 4 championships,yes the object is to win a superbowl,but neither Culpepper or Mcnair are close to Mcnabb,if i was Donovan i'd come out &throw interceptions til he put Kolb in just to say Thanks for everything coach.
Posted 04:31 PM, 11/24/2008
Gold
Good move letting McNabb start
Posted 04:38 PM, 11/24/2008
txstingray
maybe it will snow thursday and everyone at the linc can throw snowballs at reid---that would be classic philly style.
Posted 04:38 PM, 11/24/2008
trvlgrl
Go Phillies!!
Posted 04:52 PM, 11/24/2008
Skena
Reid's decision to go with McPuke on Thursday just reinforces what a horrible decision he made at halftime yesterday...costing them a season! Take these last 5 games to see if Cobb can play! OMG I cannot stand this team..
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Posted 05:23 PM, 11/24/2008
fakeplastic
Same old same old. 70/30 pass-run split works in the WAC, not the NFL. And that is where Andy is headed if Laurie had a clue. The Sixers will be on top before the Eagles will.
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Posted 05:29 PM, 11/24/2008
MoBayYankee
It's hard to pull someone out from under the bus after you threw them under there. But in Andy's case he has no choice because of his bad player personal moves and bad drafts a McNabb who is a shell of his former self is better than Kolb. I understand why his sons are so screwed up if his treatment of the McNabb situation is any indication. The rest of the NFL has looked up Andy's dress, and they don't like what they see. It's a mess
Posted 05:29 PM, 11/24/2008
Bill1966
He can try out for the Philadelphia Soul
Posted 05:30 PM, 11/24/2008
atp2007
I agree with Collinsworth, if you were going to replace McNabb in the middle of a game, you put in the guy on your roster who is there for that purpose-- Feeley, you don't throw the kid Kolb in unprepared. That kind of common sense is beyond Reid at this point, he does things just to spite the fans. Give McNabb another chance under a new coach for the rest of the season to see if he has anything left under a coach who can call plays that help him, while prepping Kolb for a fresh start next season if McNabb doesn't improve.
Posted 05:38 PM, 11/24/2008
Will.i.Am
johnnymoose270 - thank you, for being one of the very few to support donovan, he has done great things for us, and yes hes struggling, but im surely happy hes still starting, Kolb is NOT,ready by any means
Posted 05:52 PM, 11/24/2008
KeepsItReal
The worst part about this is how the guy who was drafted to be the future of the team had no business being drafted in the first place. Kevin Kolb is awful. He has terrible mechanics that worked in a well coached collge system against very bad competition. There was a reason he was rated so low on EVERYONE'S draft board, except the Eagles. His delivery is terrible and obvious. He's 6'3" and throws like he is 6' due to his sidearm delivery. No matter what Donovan does, the play calling is the #1 problem. However, no matter what, Kevin Kolb is NOT the solution.
Posted 05:52 PM, 11/24/2008
Phrossty
Who is a better QB, McNabb or Kolb or Feeley?? Be honest.... When the TEAM is in disarry, everyone's in love with the back up QB - until he gets in the game and stinks up the joint. This town thought AJ was the savior vs. Pats (despite TWO game-losing int's that book-ended 57 minutes of decent play). Then he coughed up the rock FOUR times to Seattle and fans started to send DMac "Get Well Soon" cards!
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Posted 06:02 PM, 11/24/2008
Leron
Ummm, Kolb sucks. He is worse than Bobby Hoying.
Posted 06:23 PM, 11/24/2008
Bill1966
Umm.... brilliant analysis leron.
Posted 06:29 PM, 11/24/2008
Bill1966
No shot at the playoffs but at least we can watch Mcnabb struggle and get booed. Pointless though: No one will pay him $10 million next year so we are just wasting time with him. If he had any confidence at all that he could be successful outside the Eagles West Coast offence he would have asked to be traded already. Cmon Donavan 'Man-up' and ask for a trade.
Posted 06:36 PM, 11/24/2008
mickeyb4boyle
Johnnymoose, can I get some of whatever you're smoking? Open your eyes...McNabb had a nice career here but it's over! Of course Kolb sucked...he's a rookie with no warning getting plugged in against the best defense in the league. Reid never should have done that to him...now he switches back to Donavon? This team will not get better until Reid is gone.
Posted 06:47 PM, 11/24/2008
starman
Simple: Getting rid of D'Nabb will not fix the other 21 starters. Nor will it help solve the problem of having a Ray Rhodes caliber head coach in Fatboy. Solution? Keep it like it is, it makes for amusement every Sunday. Go Falcons, you are my new team.
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Posted 07:53 PM, 11/24/2008
TLEWIS
Johnnymoose270, I couldn't have said it any better. Eagles, fans shouldn't be in such a hurry to get rid of Mcnabb. Here in Baltimore we haven't had a decent QB since.... Um.....UM...OH RIGHT..this year. McNair was good but he was at the end of his career. Donovan is having three bad games, try having a few bad years. Let see, Gerbac, Billick, Billick, Boller.. All I can say is thank heavens for Harbaugh!!! If you all don't want McNabb, WE'LL TAKE HIM IN A MINUTE!!!!
Posted 08:54 PM, 11/24/2008
JACK V
OH GOOD, MCNABB TO START ANOTHER LOSS.
Posted 09:49 PM, 11/24/2008
Bill1966
TLEWIS: I wish you were Ravens GM I would make a deal tonight!
Posted 02:07 AM, 11/25/2008
Icacrai
Who cares... When is draft day? Let's Go Flyers!
Posted 11:28 AM, 11/25/2008
rbm7528
I don't see how anyone can be down on McNabb for our current situation. Give Kevin Kolb the parade of mediocrity and horrendous play calling that McNabb has dealt with and see how many playoff runs he makes. Get rid of Reid, get a true #1 receiver and an actual fullback and we'll be back in the playoff picture next year.
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