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McCoy: It's Obvious Some Guys Didn't Buy In

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McCoy: It's Obvious Some Guys Didn't Buy In

POSTED: Monday, December 31, 2012, 12:46 PM

Andy Reid got the word of his dismissal from Eagles chairman Jeffrey Lurie sometime between 8:30 and 9 a.m. Monday, an Eagles spokesman said, then addressed the team in the NovaCare auditorium at 10 am. At 10:45, there was a staff sendoff for Reid in the cafeteria, where Lurie spoke and gave Reid a special game ball, commemorating his 14 years running the team.

In the locker room after that, as players packed belongings into boxes, many expressed displeasure with the way the team greased the skids for Reid's departure, going 4-12 in a year when everyone knew the Birds needed to contend to save Reid's job.

"No, I don't think so," running back LeSean McCoy said, when asked if he thought players all laid it on the line for Reid. "That's obvious, man .. you've seen the games."

Wideout Jeremy Maclin said Reid was emotional. "It's a sad day," he said.

Maclin talked about changes on the roster, players brought in from other teams who were "used to doing things a differerent type of way" who did not buy into Reid's program.

Maclin said Reid told the players "that he loves us, and that he hopes whoever becomes the new head coach, we accept him and embrace him, buy into what he has to teach us."

Reid remained in his NovaCare office as Lurie's 1 p.m. address to reporters neared. Players said they intended to go up for individual farewells. An Eagles spokesman said Reid is not expected to address reporters Monday.

Obviously, what happened Monday was not unexpected, but defensive end Darryl Tapp said hearing Reid say he was leaving was "a little breathtaking."

Meanwhile, assistant coaches' contracts are set to expire in the coming weeks, but no one else was dismissed Monday, the spokesman said. The new head coach probably will decide if anyone will remain.

The most-mentioned candidate for the Eagles' job is Oregon coach Chip Kelly, whose team plays in the Fiesta Bowl Thursday. Eagles linebacker Casey Matthews played for Kelly at Oregon. Matthews said Monday he thinks Kelly wants to get back to the East Coast. "That's where his family and friends are," Matthews said.

-- Les Bowen

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Comments  (27)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:26 PM, 12/31/2012
    The players who quit on Andy would quit on Frank Leahy or Tom Landry. Get rid of them too. Go with drafted kids who want to play and vets who still have a love for the Philly fans and fever if a team would play their hearts out. Drop the wide 9 and go with a D coordinator who plays with taller, faster harder hitting DB's and no more slim so called stars who can't or won't tackle. Keep the D line guys who slug it out. Teach Brown not to fumble and make plays for DeJean and Macklin plus another WR draftee who is tall and can run patterns.
    Koons
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:59 PM, 12/31/2012
    Get the crocodile tears non performers out of here......and too bad there is so many of them. Too many took this season off and just showed up to collect an undeserved paycheck. They went through the motions and it showed....no heart, no guts, no teamwork. Visions of our secondary ushering opposing players into the end zone will haunt us too long. Reid screwed up placing JC as DCoord. But, after watching this D following JC's dismissal, I've had to rethink him as a coach. Given the level of quit shown by the D, it's a wonder JC helped get us 3 wins early on.
    warwhit1
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:11 PM, 12/31/2012
    The players quit because the free agents were me first guys who dont buy into the system - when they say it is a business they take it to a mercenary approach and have no emotions invested and put themselves above others. A sign of our times and before you put all the blame on the players you tend to get what you create in life. I think there is a great lesson here but not sure if anyone is listening but once you start getting people to think of themselves and not put back into a company or a team or a society it begins to crumble. It took almost half a decade for the eagles to get to 4 and 12 but this started years ago. Namdi dcr babin maybe they are right and you should take a me first attitude in this world but i would rather put others first and win a championship.
    JL68
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:47 PM, 12/31/2012
    You are all crazy if you think the fall is due to the FA brought in. This was all Reids fault. He consistantly overvalued and overestimated his drafted players. DJax is not the player Reid thinks he is. The Vick experiment went about as bad as it could of. never drafting any good LBs or S has killed this D. Reid did good with a GM that picked the players and his inability to get rid of dead weight sank the ship.
    joemani28
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:51 PM, 12/31/2012
    At least he fired Babin before being canned himself. Boy was Babin ever a jerk! Probably the most satisfying personnel move of this past season.
    p-diddy
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:23 PM, 12/31/2012
    Too many FA's brought on at one time. It dilluted the locker room of the true Eagle culture and allowed for individual styles from other systems to kill the defensive unit. A systematic unit that understands and buys into the system always has a greater chance of succeeding than individual talent with individual agendas. Assante was the first FA to poison the culture and the Babins, Namdis and Rogers-Cromarties continued to take away from one true system.
    nceagle
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:39 PM, 12/31/2012
    one on one defense leaves little to poison. Its all about scheme and the coachs failed in their ability to plan properly and adjust. Last time i checked most of the Eagles lineman were drafted and are busts. No pressure on defense and no offensive line caused this downfall.
    joemani28
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:47 PM, 12/31/2012
    We all know the players who led to Reid's demise. The entire secondary could not cover or tackle, and probably doesn't care that the team went 4-12. Vick was Mr. Turnover when healthy. Special Teams horrible! Anyone who watched this team saw the breakdowns week after week. It was Reid who was responsible for bringing these players in and now and now pays the ultimate price!
    Temple Fan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:47 PM, 12/31/2012
    We all know the players who led to Reid's demise. The entire secondary could not cover or tackle, and probably doesn't care that the team went 4-12. Vick was Mr. Turnover when healthy. Special Teams horrible! Anyone who watched this team saw the breakdowns week after week. It was Reid who was responsible for bringing these players in and now and now pays the ultimate price!
    Temple Fan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:56 PM, 12/31/2012
    It's not the player's fault they stink. On most plays, most guys try (well, maybe not the db's), they just stink.

    Who picked them?
    COskier
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:55 PM, 12/31/2012
    Amen to joemani28's comment. Free agents didn't ruin the team's work ethic. Bottom line, these were coaching problems. The team has plenty of good effort players, and talent parity with the NFL. Reid was too impressed with speed in recent years -- Vick, Jackson, and company -- and not good enough at making sure the whole thing worked. Whether it was special teams, defense, or backup O linemen, the coaches and front office just didn't quite get it done. They're all competent and good people, but the league has moved ahead of them. It has to start with a new head coach and new assistants -- no knock on Reid and his staff. It's never one thing in the NFL, but doing what the Colts have done and making sure you somehow come out on top in this week's game.
    armchairGM
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:03 AM, 01/01/2013
    Time to rebuild
    Fritz and Alice
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:11 AM, 01/01/2013
    I posted last night and it showed for about five minutes and then dissapeared. Who runs this cite? There was nothing rude or contraversial in my post and yet it is no longer there. Do they remove it if they do not agree with your position just like they will remove a coach?
    Black Bart
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:19 AM, 01/01/2013
    Desean Jackson leads the list of punks on this team.
    GJK3161
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:04 AM, 01/01/2013
    Yep, and the fans who bought the game tickets, sports stuff, and other Eagle promotions paid for those UNDESERVED player salaries. What chumps they are!

    Only fools would spend their hard-earned money on pro sports organizations!
    GeogProf
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:19 AM, 01/01/2013
    Well, players "not understanding", "not buying into" Reid's system was a problem throughout Reid's tenure.
    road515
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:39 AM, 01/01/2013
    Goodbye Nnamdi you thief.
    SDFlyer
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:41 AM, 01/01/2013
    I think the interviews tell you a lot. McCoy, Maclin, Avant, Jenkins...you could tell they were bought in and played hard. You can rip Vick for all the things he could/couldn't do, but toughness and loyalty weren't an issue.

    Then you see DRC, Nnamdi, and Babin in interviews...even when they were trying to be "stand up" (except for Babin, egotistical twit), it was always "I" need to play better, "I" need to improve...never once was there an utterance of "playing hard for Coach Reid". Those are the cancers that need/needed to be removed.

    Oh, and if someone can draft some talent, that would be a big start...build from within. Bad drafts started this whole mess.
    Hoc-a-mania
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:41 AM, 01/01/2013
    I think the interviews tell you a lot. McCoy, Maclin, Avant, Jenkins...you could tell they were bought in and played hard. You can rip Vick for all the things he could/couldn't do, but toughness and loyalty weren't an issue.Then you see DRC, Nnamdi, and Babin in interviews...even when they were trying to be "stand up" (except for Babin, egotistical twit), it was always "I" need to play better, "I" need to improve...never once was there an utterance of "playing hard for Coach Reid". Those are the cancers that need/needed to be removed.Oh, and if someone can draft some talent, that would be a big start...build from within. Bad drafts started this whole mess. (HTML deleted)
    Hoc-a-mania
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:45 AM, 01/01/2013
    I think the interviews tell you a lot. McCoy, Maclin, Avant, Jenkins...you could tell they were bought in and played hard. You can rip Vick for all the things he could/couldn't do, but toughness and loyalty weren't an issue.

    Then you see DRC, Nnamdi, and Babin in interviews...even when they were trying to be "stand up" (except for Babin, egotistical twit), it was always "I" need to play better, "I" need to improve...never once was there an utterance of "playing hard for Coach Reid". Those are the cancers that need/needed to be removed.

    Oh, and if someone can draft some talent, that would be a big start...build from within. Bad drafts started this whole mess.
    Hoc-a-mania
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:25 PM, 01/01/2013
    Absolutely should have traded DeSean Jackson after last year. If he's untradeable, release him. A locker room full of me-first egomaniacs starts with that guy.
    JohnnyL
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:09 PM, 01/01/2013
    Laurie conveyed in his post-mortem what I already knew about the situation. Reid panicked when he replaced Kolb with Vick. And that was the start of the downward spiral, where they went outside the box of what they've been doing for years. Everything since then has been a direct result of bad player evaluation, both draft and free agents. It's clear to me that in order to get to elite status in this league, you must have very few misses in the draft. NYG and NEP are the best examples. Howie, it's in your hands. If Laurie was truthful about 2011 being HR's draft, then Howie's gotta do it again this year. Then they should be fine moving forward.
    delder
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:12 PM, 01/01/2013
    Signing TO Reid went away from principal. It was all downhill from there.
    Eagle_1960
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:32 PM, 01/01/2013
    By all means, take Casey Matthew's recommendation for the next Coach... I mean he's been so good for The Eagles since he's been here.
    gjd741
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:25 PM, 01/03/2013
    I think his arrogance and narrow mindedness did him in. If he hadn't fired the one guy who was doing a decent job (Castillo) and started Foles the Birds may have done OK (7-9 OK, not playoffs OK). He thinks his players should adapt to his system instead of him exploiting their strengths. I don't care how much they are getting paid, just about every player has a certain skill-set and expecting them to play outside that skill-set will result in failure.
    Phils_World_Champs
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:32 PM, 01/07/2013
    There must have been a reason the players quit on Andy. The job of the head coach is to be sure no one quits on them; Andy failed in this regard and had to be fired. This reality will follow him to KC. I suspect he will fail there too.
    BobSG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:42 PM, 01/07/2013
    Most of the offensive line and tight ends didnt like Vick. And when they actually tried to block for Foles they realized they just suck. Next year the eagles will get rid of that fullback playing center and get some hogs in the middle of our offensive line instead of putting these garage ban rejects in front of the most important player on the field.
    Zeru


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