Kevin Kolb speculation and analysis continue
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Kevin Kolb speculation and analysis continue
Daily News staff
The NFL lockout -- also known as Kevin Kolb Held Hostage -- continues in its fourth month, as the usual start of training camp gets closer and closer.
Representatives of the two sides met extensively last week in Minneapolis, but the reports seems split -- some optimistic and some pessimistic. The hope, at least, is that some progress is being made, especially with the next court ruling potentially looming.
As we have said before, Kolb is seemingly the poster boy for the situation, remaining stuck in limbo. He wants to be traded; the Eagles seemingly want to move him. The Eagles know what at least some of the potential offers available are. But both sides wait and wait some more until the labor impasse ends.
Expect a feeding frenzy on deals, free agents, signing draft picks and undrafted free agents. Not to mention, we need to first figure out who some of the free agents are with an adjustment possible on how many years are required.
A rite of spring and into the summer has been speculation and analysis of Kolb. That has not changed over the holiday weekend. The assumption has been that Kolb will land with the Arizona Cardinals, although a report months ago from ESPN's Adam Schefter broadened that to the NFC West, meaning Seattle is in the mix.
Sports Illustrated's Jim Trotter tweets that the Cardinals will pursue Kolb and the name that the Eagles want in return will "surprise you (patience)."
Dave Mahler, of 950 KJR in Seattle, has "heard from a source" that the Seahawks "have offered" the Eagles both a first- and third-round pick for Kevin Kolb. As pointed out elsewhere, the wording "have offered" suggests that this was either a previous offer and it is unclear where it stands now.
Interesting issue where the Eagles stand now is, do you want players or draft picks in return? if you take picks, you essentially would get nothing for Kolb that would impact the 2011 season, but would have building blocks for the future. The more recent speculation has indicated players are preferred.
So, is Kevin Kolb worth all the fuss from a football standpoint? The class and dignity he has shown throughout his tenure in Philadelphia certainly has shown that he is a good guy off the field and in the locker room.
Gosell's conclustion: I think that overall, you see the same strengths and the same flaws in each game, just in varying degrees depending on the nature of the game. Ultimately, what you see is a quarterback, that when he can play within the rhythm of the offense, and where he can plant and throw, he can be a very efficient player.
When his first read is there, given the route combination and the defense, he’s very, very good. But when that first read is not quite there and he’s forced to reset and look elsewhere, I think he struggles and I think he starts to play a little too fast. He starts to lose his pocket composure. He starts to lose his footwork and I think he starts to lose his downfield focus. You can tell in these types of situations that he’s not getting a clear picture when he has to reset. So, I think, overall, that’s Kolb at this point (in his career).
Let the speculation continue. Happy Fourth of July!
the eagles with an extra first rounder sounds great on paper, but the eagles usually get better 2nd and 3rd rounders that can play. still i'd take that deal in a second, if it were real. that could be a potential blockbuster. they gotta get one solid first round pick with two chances, no? nah they'll probably trade it away....— Evilvet- Later Kolb— shawnmac
- Nothing new, just a rehash. Why bother?
- That's all it is - just speculation; what else is there to write about...— M60tanker
- I think the deal is going to be Arizona's first pick and a player...who? I like lb Daryl Washington the linebacker out of TCU who was a second round pick (and the fastest LB at the combine) just two years ago. The kid has nice size (6'2" 230lbs.) for a weakside LB. Then you put Chaney in the middle and hopefully Bradley resigns (shouldn't be a problem with his injury history) and plays his natural position as the strongside LB. I also think there is a real chance that The new D-line coach can get Haynesworth to play and the Eagles risk it and sign him as well as reaquiring Jason Babin who had an all-star year under Washburn (12 & 1/2 sacks). I would like to see them be bold and sign the corner from Oakland. With him and Assante and a decent nickel they should be much stronger covering the pass.— DandyFarAndy
- Eagles will get a player and a pick (2nd or 3rd rounder?) from Arizona.
Book it.— FishFryFrank - Kolb to Seattle or Arizona. I still say Arizona because they have better players.— briandawkins20
- with both Seattle and Arizona seemingly bidding on Kolb, the compensation for us is going to be very good. If we were to get Arizona's 1st rounder plus the linebacker Washington that has been in rumors, I like that deal alot. Washington was a star player on the good TCU teams recently. He's gonna be very good and would be a real good weakside linebacker here replacing Sims. The Seattle rumor of a 1st and 3rd rounder is also a juicy deal for us. Seattle does not have the playmakers or defense to be a top team.. They have a better chance of being poor than good next year, so those picks could end up being high ones. Cant wait till the lockout is over and the fun begins.— bradco
- kolb is a rim job— wolf 4
- Kolb to Phoenix......Eagles out in 1st round— joeyrofrano
- WIP is reporting on a story out of Seattle that they have offered 1st and a 3rd for Kolb. I personally think that is where he is going, because they only have 1 QB on their roster I believe. The Eagles have to take this deal if its true.— watsonmr
- Whoaa!!! you mean a qb who has all of 7 or 8 starts under his belt still has some flaws to work on???? Wow!!!! Send him packing!!!! Do any of the morons who constantly bash Kolb remember the days when a qb held a clipboard for 2 years and then spent 3 years learning his position under fire? I understand things have changed but what do you expect from this guy? He shouldn't have any things to work on after a handful of starts?? He should ne Montana by now?? I'll tell you. The espn generation is a bunch of impatient, simple-minded idiots indeed. By the way. I'm good with Vick being here but lets see what you all say in 2 years when he's well into his 30's and the legs are gone. Ohh thats right. He's a pocket qb now right??? hehehe— Sewellmatt
- every story about them not trading for picks next year because they won't help this year seem to forget, they can turn around and trade those picks for players....— dennismithusa
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- truly the most over rated qb in recent history. get what you can.... remember bobby hoying? He actually start more games than Kolb. KK is a nice guy, but in 2 years will be a back up somewhere.. not a starter.— stevejones
- truly the most over rated qb in recent history. get what you can.... remember bobby hoying? He actually start more games than Kolb. KK is a nice guy, but in 2 years will be a back up somewhere.. not a starter.— stevejones
- take the first and the L.B. from Arizona, sign the corner from washington along with Haynesworth and Babin. Plax would be a nice signing but another tackle on the right side would be more pressing. That would make this a huge offseason and make up for the awful draft
- You left out the part that kolb won two offensive player of the week awards and would have won three if three Eaglers players had not thrown the Titans and won't be playing with the Eagles in 2011. Also I will make a wild guess that the Eagles and the Cardinales have alrady made an agreewment on a trade, (Eagles get Patrick Peterson)when they wers stopped by the lockout. If you guys, the lousy writer Eagletarin didn't have brain damage, you would know that Kolb will take the Cardinales to the superbowl and Mike NcVick will follow Donovan cough, cough McNabb and be out of football in 2012. L:et the games begin.— marioP
- Bottom line, don't give him up for anything less than a 1st round pick. Worst case scenario is that we have Kolb as a backup for another season, and you know Vick's gonna miss games.— p-diddy
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- Trading Kolb will be good if
1)Vick stays healthy all year then the back up will be irrelevant, 2)Should Vick get hurt the back up is as effective or better than Kolb was against Atlanta and the 2 300 yard games he threw
3)the players and picks in the trade helps the Eagles get to the Superbowl. If Vick gets hurt and the Eagles don't make the playoffs and Kolb helps his team to the playoffs and further Andy and the Eagles will look dumb as HELP— VegasEagleFan - Why trade Kolb for draft picks now? Keep him and trade him after the season for those same draft picks. Be sure to get conditional picks in 2014 or 2015 also, if this guy becomes an all pro and we have an aging Vick, we want a way to get another qb.— barneygoogle
- Probably because he's a free agent after the season and no longer their player. I'll look for more of your informative posts, genius. — beegal99
- Kolb, plus the 2012 #2rd pick to Phoenix ............ for this surprise.....
Larry Fitzerald— CoolRunnings - Yao Cool: Pheonix wants Kolb BECAUSE of Fitzgerald. No way he's going to be part of a trade for him.— yobill626
- I'm good with a 2nd round pick for Kolb, IF the deal includes a good secondary player. I think that's pretty good value for both teams.— yobill626
- Cosell nailed Kolb perfectly. The issue I've always had with him is that he breaks the pocket way too soon and rolls out right. If he can't roll right, he backs up. Never feels his way thru the pocket, doesn't really step up. Besides being complete rookie mistakes, all mentioned breaks up the continuity of the offense and what you're trying to do.— beegal99
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- If you morons think your going to get Arizona's top Pick for Kolb.....you can keep on dreaming! No one wants to send a top Draft Pick of that capacity to a loser team like the Eagles.— MRD
- Three teams offered No 1 picks for Kolb. Two teams oiffered Number three picks for Kafka. No one offered even an old pair of socks for Vick. You think the rest of the league knows something?— marioP
