McNabb Blather Intensely Confusing
Hope nobody out there is getting too worked up over those "intense internal conversations" the Rams supposedly are having over the possibility of trading for Donovan McNabb.
McNabb Blather Intensely Confusing
Les Bowen, Daily News Staff Writer
Hope nobody out there is getting too worked up over those "intense internal conversations" the Rams supposedly are having over the possibility of trading for Donovan McNabb.
Sure, anything's possible. But let's think this through. The Rams, the worst team in the NFL last season, are undertaking a huge rebuilding project. Their draft picks are precious. To get McNabb, they'd have to give up something pretty darned significant -- at least the first overall pick in the second round, maybe more. OK, if they're going to do that, they're projecting McNabb as their quarterback for at least a few years, right? Yet, he's only signed through 2010. To make such a deal happen, you'd think the Rams would have to be assured they could sign McNabb to a new deal. Why on earth would McNabb be willing to play along?
BTW, maybe the McNabb camp had this scenario in mind last June, when contract revision talks reached that odd conclusion of more money but no added years. The assumption then was that the Eagles didn't want to extend McNabb -- but what if he saw he could retain more control of his destiny by keeping his 2011 options open?
Maybe I'm missing something here, tradewise. Just yesterday, ESPN's Adam Schefter opined that he thought McNabb was the most likely Eagles quarterback to be dealt, ahead of Michael Vick. I don't see it. The only situation that makes sense for McNabb is a contending team, that he'd like to sign with beyond this season. How many of those need quarterbacks? The Vikings seem to be willing to wait indefinitely for Brett Favre. The Cardinals have indicated they intend to go forward with Matt Leinart, and unlike with Minnesota, there is no obvious McNabb connection (where a guy lives in the offseason has nothing to do with anything). San Francisco, a borderline contending team, also has shown no inclination toward trading for a 33-year-old QB, and no McNabb connection.
If you told me the Eagles really were ready to move on from the McNabb Era, despite everything Andy Reid has said since the season, I wouldn't be shocked. I'm really not sure how the moving on gets accomplished, though, unless they decide to sell a "one-year" McNabb at a discount to a bad team ... which you'd think would not be looking for a one-year solution.
I'll believe it when it happens.
Comments (61)
The first pick of the 2nd round is a fair trade for McNabb so that's not a problem. If McNabb chose not to sign an extension with the Rams what would be the alternative? To stay with a team that obviously doesn't want him? If the Rams offer him a lucrative contract offer I don't see why he wouldn't sign.— soulman386- It's "confusing" because it's completely made up and an error. Stop perpetuating it!— dansdigs
- I agree the first pick of the 2nd round is a fair trade, it just doesn't make any sense for the Rams. They'll be bad for a few years yet at least. Why would they want McNabb? Vick would draw in just as many fans and allow them to fill some other huge holes with the 2nd round pick.— sg021
- Mc5 is going NOWHERE this season. With the weapons on O, upper Mgmt thinks they're on the cusp. (thought this for 10+ years). He gets '10 as a farewell tour, WIN IT ALL and rewrite his history. Struggle and it becomes KOLBadelphia. KING~out— thee~KING
- As usual, Les in clueless. As discussed yesterday, the Rams are trying to maximize the value of the team in order to sell to another group. McNabb, with Jackson, instantly makes them better. Makes them a more attractive product. Rebuilding? Not so much. Business 101, Les.— beegal99
- McNabb's value was a third round pick several years ago when inquiries about trading him were discussed. I've seen nothing since that time to beleive anything regarding his value has changed. If anything, it went down becuase nobody wants to pick up a 15 million dollar contract for one year when any team can pay their grounds crew a lot less to kill the worms on the grass.— Voytas
- Beegal99. I'm a Philly product but live here in St Louis. Rams already have a buyer, a rich IL businessman who wants to keep the team here. Seeing as he has the cash to buy and keeping the team here is what the NFL wants, I think it's just a formality now that'll get approved. Latest news here is Rams may draft franchise QB (Sam Bradford) and may want to trade for Vick (not McNabb) as a stop gap solution, and to add excitement/get people in the seats (the Dome is half empty every game the Rams are so bad). Les is right on this one, it's a bogus story— RocketC
- McNabb is going nowhere. These are just people trying to use fabricated headlines to get readers or viewers. Adam Shefter knows nothing about football. He simply reports what he's told by other people.— JimG
You complainers need to relax. You should know by now that if anything significant happens the headline will be in 150 pt font on the homepage. Otherwise, you are part of whatever problem you are referring to. Nobody is forcing you to read the blog, so give it up.— gho_matt
Comment removed.- Doesn't McNabb have a no trade clause. And therefore would have to approve the trade? The rams dont have a shot!— Atlas
- "McNabb's value was a third round pick several years ago" What?? Franchise QB - even his haters say he's been a top ten talent for years - is worth a third round pick in the prime of his career (several years ago)? Seems pretty ridiculous, wouldn't believe that for a second. I don't think he'll be going anywhere either but only because he gives us the best chance to win the Super Bowl.— Twocents
- Funny, Voytas. That last line made me laugh.— phillyinsd
If the Eagles don't trade McNabb this season, they get nothing for him at the end of the contract. That's why he WILL be traded to someone. But I agree that the Rams will go after Vick, not McNabb.- Ahh, Dr Watson, it is logic you use, I presume. Too bad Philly faithful doesn't want to hear your message but I think you are spot on.— tommy_the_k
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- Mcnabb does not have a super bowl ring, as we all know. He's not going to stay with a basement team, no way. If he got traded he'd walk unless the talent was there (and it won't be).— MattPSU
- so crazy only in Philly lamenting a Pro Bowl qb who had a bunch of rookies and second, third year players in skill positions and a busted up o line Tom Brady played worse his first year back from knee surgery than Don did that year,, and Don came within one botched d breakdown of going to the Super Bowl!— billgfc
- Every day I go this website and hope to read the headline: "McNabb Traded". Every day.— cgrock
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- McNabb is as good as gone. It may not be the Rams, but it's going to happen.— Bob1
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- If WINNING the SB is truly the E's #1 priority, then you can expect to see 5 starting and KK backing him up next year. If getting something back for 5 before he walks at the end of next year is the E's #1 priority, then we move 5 for the best offer before draft day.— The Reddgie
- Mcnabb will not be traded...period.— Phillyphan26
- Shefter sounded certain that Vick was staying because the Eagles were paying him the 1.5 million bonus. But I thought they had to do that before he could be traded. So maybe it suggests they have a trade partner. If they didn't, they could just release him. On the other hand, it does let them use him as 2nd string QB if McNabb or Kolb are traded.— tacklinjoe
Still cracks me up how so many are soooo sure of themselves and their opinions---DEFINITELY WILL or WILL NOT BE TRADED---unless your name is A Reid you really should STFU. Jeez. I think MC5 is the best shot next year will a healed OL & some upgrades on D. But if AR decides to go with Kubb, I'm still rooting for the Eagles and will be hoping the Klobber takes them to the promised land. BTW-how sweet would it be to win the SB in JerryLand next year? (whoever is behind center)— Mabus- I'd definitely take a Kolb/Vick combo next year if we could ship McNabb off for at least a 2nd rounder. Marooning him in St. Louis, though--that's just sad. Jason Maruso— Jason_maruso
- Because of the Eagles contract situation with all their quarterbacks, they themselves have caused much of the speculation that is currently running thru the NFL. They put themselves in this position,so its only natural that most NFL observers are wondering what they are going to do.— watsonmr
- What's confusing to me, Les, is why you can't come up with some new material. Another McNabb article is like shooting fish in a barrel around here. Guaranteed to get at least 50 comments. Are you paid by the comment?— vafan
- Voy....killer comment...Les is clueless as always, I agree, third rounder at best, otherwise, AR won't even get a cheesesteak from Pat's for the hasbeen— SkipinWV
- See if you can follow me here: McNabb will get traded if another team makes a GREAT offer equivalent to a mid-1st round and a mid-2nd round pick. He's not going anywhere for a 3rd or 4th rounder. (that was funny, though!) Vick WILL be traded and a team will give up the equivalent of a mid-2nd round pick. Stop trading insults and look at this objectively. Too many haters here speaking like 3rd graders. Kolb is your starter in Philly if the Eagles get a GREAT offer for McNabb.— vafan
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- I, for one, believed Andy the FIRST time he said Mc5 was going to be his QB next year. I have NO clue why nobody ELSE believes him. If the defense upgrades to about NFL average, or hopefully, a little above....our Iggles will go to the Conference Championship game. If the O-Line gets to be better than last year, we WILL win the Superbowl. Imagine this: Our "D" holds opponants to a 19 PPG AVERAGE. Does anybody NOT think that with an improved O-Line we won't score at least 21 PPG??— TBear
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- McNabb starts 2010 and retires an Eagle afterward. Print it.— soilwork007
- I think Les nails it here. Believe it when you see it.— Brookie64
- I have to agree with many of the commentators here Les Bowen is clueless. These old dudes act like the NFL hasn't changed in 10 years. The fact is teams get better quickly. Only the most poorly run teams are in permanent rebuilding mode, i.e. the Raiders and the Lions. Who would have thought that the Saints would win the Super Bowl 2 years ago? Weren’t they just in "rebuilding mode"? How about Arizona? Weren't they "completely hopeless" according to the "experts" just 3 years back? I’m sure we could find a similar article from a Lessesque moron that says the Cardinals will never be able to attract free agents. I must say, unlike Baseball and Basketball, Football writers are not very knowledgeable about the game. Many like Les have lagged well behind the times, failing to adapt to the parity that is the NFL. Honestly, I do not think I'm qualified to write for a sport like Baseball, Basketball or Hockey, but I would immediately jump to the head of the class if I was a football writer.— daner92
- I have to agree with many of the commentators here Les Bowen is clueless. These old dudes act like the NFL hasn't changed in 10 years. The fact is teams get better quickly. Only the most poorly run teams are in permanent rebuilding mode, i.e. the Raiders and the Lions. Who would have thought that the Saints would win the Super Bowl 2 years ago? Weren’t they just in "rebuilding mode"? How about Arizona? Weren't they "completely hopeless" according to the "experts" just 3 years back? I’m sure we could find a similar article from a Lessesque moron that says the Cardinals will never be able to attract free agents. I must say, unlike Baseball and Basketball, Football writers are not very knowledgeable about the game. Many like Les have lagged well behind the times, failing to adapt to the parity that is the NFL. Honestly, I do not think I'm qualified to write for a sport like Baseball, Basketball or Hockey, but I would immediately jump to the head of the class if I was a football writer.— daner92
- Another thing, when has Donovan ever been worried about winning championships? As far as I can tell the guy likes getting paid and he has been perpetually happy with simply playing for a “competitive” team. Who says the Rams couldn’t be competitive next year?— daner92
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Hey Cen$e, thanks for helping with the light work pal. Just like shootin' fish in a barrell isn't it? Tbear knows it takes both sides of the ball, an entire team to win the SB. That includes the coach. I am still amazed that DM isn't getting credit for getting this team to the playoffs. It has more holes than wiff's head and all you hear is they didn't win the SB and got beat by Dallas. It was a miracle they were even in the hunt...again. KK would not have made a wit of difference. Not a wit.— tpizza- Comment removed.
- shipu56 and cgrock......I wish for that day the same way y'all do! I hope its coming soon.
- Here's what is intensely confusing: that Eagles fans have to go to St.Louis papers or ESPN or other outlets to read about McNabb rumors. Whether a trade with St. Louis happens or not, any news surrounding a possible trade of arguably the best quarterback in Eagles history merits a story in a Philly paper....not the condescending after-the-fact pieces we get from Bowen and Domo, which serve only to cover their posteriors.— iceman
- Start with the assumption that you have to trade Vick. That leaves you with McNabb and Kolb as co-starters. Yes, that's right, co-starters. If Eagles management is seriously considering trading McNabb(and I think they are) then you have to consider Kolb as equal to or better than him. Tell both of them that they will compete for the job in camp. Sure, McNabb, as the incumbent, will probably keep the job but you keep Kolb more excited about staying here long term. Unless you trade one of them in-season (unlikely) Eagles fans will just have to resign ourselves to the fact that we're not going to get value when we lose McNabb as a FA next year. (Eagles FO will not let a younger QB walk) If current rules apply they might get a 3rd rounder as league compensation which could become a good player. The Eagles will draft a QB in this years draft to groom as Kolb's understudy. You read it here first.— Rick Wise Guy
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- Rams give up a 2nd rounder for Donovan---he walks in free agency 2011---they get a 1st round compensatory pick----a wash.— Romus
- Rick Wise Guy, nice post, well thought out. However, I disagree with when 5 will be traded, IF he is to be traded. I think it would have to be no later than draft day. He won't get traded for players in return (goes against making the deal for the team getting him, sending back players would weaken the team you would theoretically be trying to improve by trading for him). I don't think he'll get traded for future picks because 1 this years draft is deeper than next years is anticipated to be, 2 that is if there is a next year and that looming lockout is averted and 3 trading 5 would have to improve the team this year or the TRUE fan base (not to be confused with the message board fan base which is not a true representation of the aforementioned TRUE fan base) would go nuts. By elimination, he would have to go before the draft in return for picks in the draft so that the AR contingent can pick the players that they want. I do agree with AR drafting a QB this year, possibly even using a middle pick and getting a raw but talented guy that would need several seasons of grooming.— The Reddgie
- ldozbuh. s thiz a.dmkdi opji wjsi lsiesin. makes as much sense as keeping mcwaddle of many of the above posts.— JACK V
- This has got to be the laziest set of writers on any site, any where. Every day, it's McNabb, McNabb, McNabb. Get off your lazy arses and write about the real needs of this team, and how the Birds plan to address them. If McNabb gets traded, let us know. Until then, please show some originality. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzz.— birdseed
- the rams may take a QB in the draft and use mcnabb to bring him along... please trade mcnabb and lets go forward and stop living in the past.— maximus
- I Think Donovan is going to back in philly next year and i think they should offer him a new contract for a least two years then get ready for Kevin Kolb..— wallie1111111
- The Cards have been in McNabbs favor. He doesn't extend his current deal and plays out the season and has a typical McNabb year, he's an unrestricted FA. He can go where he chooses, and the eagles aren't due any compensation.... There is not a football guy running a team willing to take on McNabb with only one year left on his contract. Result count at QB, a typical McNabb year still has him performing as one of the league's better QBs gate attraction. McNabb is in perfect position to call the play on where he plays.— Dexter
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- i thought i understood the eagles thought processes after all these years, which would mean you would trade mcnabb now while you can get something for him...i cant believe they think they are on the cusp of the super bowl, so why pay Donovan big dollars this year when you can put Kevin Kolb out there and see what you've got? its not like they are going to lose out on ticket sales/merchandise or there will be a fan revolt if donovan is gone.. hopefully the eagles are merely waiting for the right offer, and just dont want it to seem they want to make a deal in case they end up not getting an offer they like and #5 is back.— jim715
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