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Day-After Dissection: Redskins

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Day-After Dissection: Redskins

POSTED: Monday, October 4, 2010, 4:40 PM

Some incoherent thoughts, some off-the-mark conclusions and one or two astute observations as we mourn the passing of Week 4 of the NFL season:

* In reviewing the film of Sunday’s game, there are two passes Kevin Kolb really needed to complete and didn’t Sunday. The first was the deep ball to a wide-wide-open DeSean Jackson early in the fourth quarter. The second was a pass down the seam to Brent Celek on the Eagles’ final possession. You can give Kolb a little bit of a pass on the overthrow to Jackson and blame it on the wind. But not the pass to Celek. He threw it behind the open tight end who wasn’t able to turn his body and make the catch. If the pass had been on the money, the Eagles would’ve had the ball at no worse than the Washington 30 with 30 seconds to go instead of at midfield.

* LeSean McCoy put up terrific numbers against the Redskins. He had 174 yards from scrimmage and averaged 6.2 yards per touch. But his third-quarter fumble was a killer. His five-yard gain on the play would’ve given the Eagles a second down at the Washington 21. At the very worst, they would’ve walked away from that possession with a David Akers field goal that would’ve made it a 17-9 game and put the Eagles in position to only need a field goal to win the game at the end rather than a touchdown.

* Defensive coordinator Sean McDermott got too cute on that third-and-4 play late in the game when Donovan McNabb broke containment and ran for 18 yards and a first down. He called a zone blitz that had left end Brandon Graham drop back into coverage. Graham ran with a Redskins receiver toward the middle of the field, leaving McNabb a wide-open lane to pick up the first down. Linebacker Stewart Bradley tried to run down McNabb, but got chipped. And while we’re on the subject of that play, what was McNabb thinking running out of bounds?

* Speaking of Graham, while he’s bulked up some since leaving the University of Michigan, he still too small to be an every-down defensive end at this stage of his career. Keep him fresh for pass-rushing situations and get a left end out there who is better equipped to stop the run. Somebody like Darryl Tapp. The Redskins ran the ball 35 times Sunday and Graham had just 2 tackles.

* The Eagles’ difficulty in stopping the run Sunday wasn’t limited to the first quarter. They were gashed for 169 yards on 35 carries. Came up small against the run on the Redskins’ final possession. Even after McNabb scrambled for that first down with 3:45 left in the game, the Eagles, who still had a timeout left, could’ve gotten the ball back with 2-plus minutes left if they had held the ‘Skins there. But they gave up another first down when Ryan Torain gashed them for 10- and 7-yard gains.

* It wasn’t a good day for 2 of the Eagles’ defensive leaders – middle linebacker Stewart Bradley and strong safety Quintin Mikell. Mikell got run over by Torain on his 12-yard first-quarter touchdown run in the first quarter, which was preceded by a penalty for horsecollar tackle on Santana Moss a couple of plays before that.

Bradley was part of the busted coverage that resulted in McNabb’s 31-yard touchdown throw to tight end Chris Cooley and had too many missed tackles to count Sunday. On a 13-yard screen to Clinton Portis on the Redskins’ second touchdown drive, Bradley missed Portis not once, but twice. He also had a missed tackle on Torain’s 10-yard run late in the fourth quarter that gave the Redskins another first down when the Eagles needed to get the ball back.

* I still haven’t gotten a good explanation from the Eagles as to why they released wide receiver Hank Baskett last month and signed Bills practice-squad running back Joique Bell. Since cutting Baskett, the Eagles have been going with just four wide receivers on their roster. No big deal when everybody’s healthy. But rookie Riley Cooper suffered a concussion in the first quarter Sunday, leaving the Eagles with 3 wideouts for the rest of the game. It not only prevented them from using any 4-wide receiver sets, but also appeared to take its toll on DeSean Jackson, who seemed gassed at the end. Bell? He was inactive Sunday. I mean, why in the world is a team whose running backs have carried the ball a grand total of 63 times in 4 games carrying 5 running backs on their 53-man roster? Am I missing something here?

* The Eagles’ coverage units continue to give up big plays. They gave up a 53-yard punt return to Brandon Banks Sunday that set up the Redskins’ first touchdown. A week earlier, the Jaguars’ Mike Thomas burned them for a 41-yard punt return. In Week 1, they gave up a 51-yard kickoff return to the Packers’ Jordy Nelson.

* A breakdown of the 4 holding penalties on the Eagles’ offensive line Sunday:
No. 1 – By RG Max Jean-Gilles late in the first quarter. Jean-Gilles held DT Albert Haynesworth after getting beat on an inside move by Haynesworth. The penalty wiped out a 23-yard run by Mike Vick on the play Vick got hurt on. Then again, maybe Vick doesn’t gain 23 yards if Jean-Gilles didn’t hold Haynesworth.
No. 2 – By LT Jason Peters. Got beat by Redskins LB Brian Orakpo on an outside rush, then grabbed Orakpo with his left hand. The hold wiped out a 10-yard Kolb-to-Owen Schmitt completion for a first down.
No. 3—By Peters again, after getting beat by Orakpo again. Used his left hand to hold Orakpo as he was beating him on another outside rush, then, just for good measure, grabbed the back of Orakpo’s jersey with his right hand as the Redskin pass-rusher was blowing by him. Wiped out an 8-yard scramble by Kolb.
No. 4 – By LG Todd Herremans early in the fourth quarter against Haynesworth. Herremans was a little more discreet than Peters, but basically tackled Haynesworth. The penalty wiped out a 16-yard Kolb completion to Jason Avant that would’ve given the Eagles a first down at the Washington 36. Instead, they had a first-and-20 at their own 41.

* Forty-six of the Eagles’ 68 offensive plays were out of a three-wide receiver, one running back, one-tight end formation, including their last 18 plays in the fourth quarter when they were running their hurry-up offense. Rushed for 75 yards on 18 carries out of the 3-1-1. Mike Vick and Kevin Kolb were a combined 17-for-27 for 130 yards out of it. They also ran 2 plays out of a 3-WR, 2-RB set, and another play out of a 3-WR, 2-TE set.
The Eagles ran just 11 plays out of a standard 2-wide receiver, 2-running back, 1-tight end set. Rushed for 20 yards on 3 carries out of it. Completed 5 of 8 passes for 94 yards out of it, including all 3 of FB Owen Schmitt’s receptions (43 yards).
 

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Comments  (37)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:51 PM, 10/04/2010
    Redskins came to play- set the tone early with very physical play- and as usual Reid did not have his team ready physically or mentally. They clearly were looking to take shots at Vick, they almost killed Corvin on the kick return,Torain ran over Mikel on that first TD and they broke Shady's ribs too. Please Jeff Lurie, Fat Andy jumped the shark years ago. He can't coach, motivate, manage the clock, evaluate talent, manage a roster- none of it anymore. Please bring Gruden in next year. Nice to know Graham is too small for DE too- well worh three draft picks to go up and get him.
    friedmozzarela
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:17 PM, 10/04/2010
    Bring in Bill Cowher!
    Skinny283
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:19 PM, 10/04/2010
    traded DMAC for a 2nd rounder ... and now being suggested to trade Kolb for a 2nd rounder ... Dmac & Kolb = 2nd rounders HAHAHAHAHA the joke is on the fans!
    daveH
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:22 PM, 10/04/2010
    once again reid fails to make in game corrections that apply to that current game. He is again the worst at making adjustments
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:37 PM, 10/04/2010
    Sean McDermott obviously is not the second coming of Steve Spagnuolo, It's time to turn the defense over to Dick Jauron.
    downthemiddle
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:46 PM, 10/04/2010
    Les, thanks for picking up that insane dropback into coverage for Graham. You draft the guy as a pass rusher, then you take him out of the play so there's no blindside pressure. And then it leaves the left side wide open and free of containment. It was a big part of what cost them the game at the end. Where did this defensinve coordinator come from?? The Detroit Lions, where the offensive coordinator came from?
    Bob1
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:49 PM, 10/04/2010
    In regards to Joique Bell pickup, it's probably about the injury to Weaver combined with the utter disappointment that Mike Bell has been on the field. They are down to Mccoy as the only useful RB, and J. Bell was one of those dust bin bargain items that Joe Banner just can't say no to. When/if J. Bell shows competence in picking up the offense he will take over for M. Bell, release him, and find some P/S bargain basement rookie F/A wide receiver that Joe Banner just can't say no to.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:53 PM, 10/04/2010
    A-heh-hem. Alright, injuries. What? Did somebody say ribs? Time's yers, gotta go.
    steelydad
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:59 PM, 10/04/2010
    it's simple with the O-line, teach them to only hold on negative or no gain plays. Then they will get declined. Oh wait, I forgot none of them can seem to learn how to play right guard, it's too complicated.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:59 PM, 10/04/2010
    Sean McD is a an analretentive twerp.
    bonnerlou
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:05 PM, 10/04/2010
    B Graham was unstoppable in college and training camp but is now ineffective due to SM' scheme or D line coaching. B Graham has been castrated by the scheme and shows no moves and will continue to be a non factor. We would see the same negative results if we had Clay Matthews due to mcdermott. Fire Sean Mcd. Also, Avant just flat out blew it. We still could have won that nauseating game. Give Teo a chance.
    fireSeanM
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:08 PM, 10/04/2010
    @DaveH,

    The joke is only on fans that are too stupid to realize that the 2nd rounder for #5 was Nate Allen...dope.
    Thegreat1
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:17 PM, 10/04/2010
    I understand hindsight is 20/20, but some of the play calling and formations are baffling as is carrying 5 RBs on a pass-first/pass often offense with 4 WRs (when healthy). I hate to think it, but the Eagles deserved to lose with everything noted above (and more). Hopefully this game lights some fires under some of the 'leaders' and they bounce back next week with a monster win.
    Mabus
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:26 PM, 10/04/2010
    As bad as it was, and it did suck mightily, the Eagles still would have won the game if Avant didn't drop the last pass...it hit him right in the hands!
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:33 PM, 10/04/2010
    daveh.....you, sir, are the joke of the message boards!!
    philly449
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:51 PM, 10/04/2010
    I thought all the Eagles' failures in the past was McNabb's fault. We shiped him out of town, so we should win a championship this year!
    josh moneyman
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:07 PM, 10/04/2010
    Im waiting for all you clowns to get back on the the Kolb bandwagon. This organization has not accomplished anything since 1960......19 bleeping 60!!!!
    rsjII
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:14 PM, 10/04/2010
    I love hearing everyone complain about Jason Avant not catching the Hail Mary pass. Focus on the real issues: bad defense, oline, planning and time management by the HC, etc. Against a bad team like the Skins, you shouldn't need a Hail Mary pass to win the game; you run the ball, manage the game, make some throws, go ahead, and run the ball some more to keep the other team's offense off the field. Wait, that's what the Redskin's did!
    One more thing; all of this complaining about the defense, oline, etc. which were just as bad if not worse last year, yet the team went 11-5 and made the playoffs. What was different about last year? Hmmm...... McNabb maybe? Think about it people.
    mjc1
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:54 PM, 10/04/2010
    getting rid of mc5 was phase I; phase II would be getting rid of the guy in the fat suit and getting a coach who can coach....unfortunately phase II is going to take awhile unless he fires himself (the good news is he screws up enough stuff that he just may do it by accident).
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:11 PM, 10/04/2010
    In fairness to Jackson, he appeared to be shaken up during a play in the final couple minutes and was having trouble walking upright much less running. He wasn't "gassed".
    p-diddy
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:16 PM, 10/04/2010
    Hey Fried I agree with almost everything you said, except that I would prefer Cowher.
    taycom
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:21 PM, 10/04/2010
    The bigger problem with this team is the lack of tough, physical play. This d-line gets flat out pushed around by good o-lines. And the o-line is the same way. The Eagles' personnel as a whole is not very physical. There are exceptions such as Bradley, Herremans and Mikell, but overall the Eagles have a problem that's not going to be fixed by game planning and schemes. They have a personnel problem.
    p-diddy
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:37 PM, 10/04/2010
    Sure would be nice to still have Brian Moates on the roster. He and Schmitt on the field together would be nice to see in the 3rd and 4th quarters to relieve tired starters. I thought Reid and company gave up on Moates too soon.
    garcia7
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:42 PM, 10/04/2010
    Everyone seems to forget that we lost our starting quarterback early in the game. How many teams still win after that happens. Vick is definitely the real deal. The verdict is still out on Kolb. Although from watching him operate in 4 plus quarters its not looking good. As much as I can't stand listening to Aikman and Buck they did keep pointing out that Kolb wasn't seeing the field. I hope thats not true and it was Marty telling him to throw short, but if he really can't see the field yet than it could be a long, long year.
    mtbill
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:46 PM, 10/04/2010
    I was proud of the fans for acting responsibly when McNab was announced. After the game I was happy McNab is now the Redskins problem. Kolb outplayed him and if Avant hangs onto that pass and the Birds win every sports-writer in the country would agree. McNab did not win that game; the redskins coaches and players overall won the game that Andy Reid handed to them.
    garcia7
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:48 PM, 10/04/2010
    Too many mistakes on offense - penalties, fumble - to sustain long drives. Kolb was OK and that is considerably better than the O-line performed.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:13 PM, 10/04/2010

    "Forty-six of the Eagles’ 68 offensive plays were out of a three-wide receiver, one running back, one-tight end formation, including their last 18 plays in the fourth quarter when they were running their hurry-up offense." The Eagles haven't had a hurry-up offense since Andy became coach. He doesn't allow audibles and he doesn't let the QB call their own plays. How could he ever have that kind of offense? It's one of those things that I'm suprised was never written about more, Andy almost completely eliminating any audibles. He calls the play and the QB runs it (or runs with it in Vick's case). That's it.
    jimmyj
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:50 PM, 10/04/2010
    Avant had his hands AROUND the ball, then kinda flipped it up when he thought he was going to get pasted back there. He doesn't drop those...unless he wants to. Sad, rare, and sad some more.
    KannonWithaK
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:52 PM, 10/04/2010
    Nothing about that DEBACLE at the end of the first half, that cost the Birds a chance at 6 instead of the field goal?? 12 years as a head coach, and Captain Andy is still the WORST clock manager of all time.
    Nicher
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:52 PM, 10/04/2010
    years of trading down in draft leaves team with lots of mediocre players -- players suck, coaches suck, management suck --hope they can go 4-12 and fire Reid and maybe come up with 5 yr plan where they'll be relevant again --right now they're 4th best pro-team in Phlly (yep --behind Sixers)
    warbiscuit
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:31 AM, 10/05/2010
    Gruden
    AnEaglesSixersFlyersPhilliesPSUBig5FanGrowsInBrooklyn
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:45 AM, 10/05/2010
    First off, Warbiscuit, there's nobody worse off than the laughingstock that the Sixers are right now...
    It's 4 games in, 3 qb changes already, and Bradley just getting healthy(was horrible Sunday, for sure)and they're 2-2. No reason to jump off a bridge like some peeps on this board would have you think...Let's see where we're at after 9 or 10 games. Xanax people, sheez...
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:47 AM, 10/05/2010
    Regarding the part in the article describing the fallout from the penalties. Notice that items 2,3,and 4 all wiped out decent gains by Kolb and 1st downs. Combine those with Reids mistake at the end of the half, and McCoys fumble on the Redskins 21 during a long drive, and Kolb didn't play that bad, I'm not saying he was great, but its tough to win if your teammates and the head coach are making mistakes killing drives.
    watsonmr
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:16 AM, 10/05/2010
    PLEASE, FIRE FAT ANDY NOW!
    your_mom_says_hi!
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:34 AM, 10/05/2010
    If anyone thinks Kolb is the future to the Eagles. WOW. no way. No how. Keep Vick, get rid of Korn on the Kolb.
    Bonzy22
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:47 AM, 10/05/2010
    Blame it on the wind?! Are you kidding me? Ridiculous, this is the NFL, not pee wee football!
    EaglesBleedMoney


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