Birds' 3-4 Thoughts, Westbrook update
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Birds' 3-4 Thoughts, Westbrook update
Les Bowen, Daily News Staff Writer
The Eagles' informal gathering for media folk Tuesday evening down at NovaCare was an interesting, and in some ways encouraging, affair. On one level, as is the case with almost any access an NFL team grants, the goal surely was to favorably influence the way the team is viewed by the people who cover it. But knowing a little about the genesis of the event, I would say the intent was more fostering communication and mutual understanding, than co-opting anyone or trying to force-feed any sort of organizational dogma. I said "encouraging," because one of the criticisms of this regime, voiced here and elsewhere, has been its penchant for secrecy and its rigid adherence to protocol. Anything that breaks down that wall a little bit, I'm all for.
Reporters were divided into groups, who shuttled among sessions with special teams coordinator Bobby April, offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg, defensive coordinator Sean McDermott and general manager Howie Roseman. Here are a few observations:
*April gave an overview of how he sets up his operation, but it was hard to delve much into specifics, because he is new here. No way to ask about last year's Eagles kick coverage, with a guy who was in Buffalo at the time. But as he
showed in his initial news conference during minicamp, April is an entertaining, engaging speaker. His narration of a season-long quest in 1995 to get the Steelers to try an onside kick, complete with jaw-jutting Bill Cowher imitation, would have been worth the price of admission, if there had been one. (They finally tried it, and converted it, in the Super Bowl, after April covertly engaged offensive coordinator Chan Gailey to help him win over Cowher. But Neil O'Donnell made the whole thing moot with a crucial pick.)
*Mornhinweg was a physics professor speaking to a bunch of guys who hadn't gotten closer to the subect than taking phys ed. He seemed to assume a much greater grasp of X and O jargon than most of us possessed. Until Tuesday, I thought "cloud" coverage only affected sunlight, not wideouts. But his session was worthwhile. For one thing, you got a sense of why things sometimes break downor get garbled, in the Birds' complex offense -- Mornhinweg is dealing with an almost limitless set of variables. There might not be a half-dozen people on the planet better versed in the West Coast offense. But as anyone who has ever watched him in a press conference knows, Marty has an amiable, absentminded professor personality. He is not averse to meandering off on a tangent, in explaining something.
The most important thing I gleaned there was the importance of the quarterback following the prescribed progression. One film Marty showed had Donovan McNabb throwing in the flat to Brian Westbrook for a short gain. Meanwhile, L.J. Smith was wide open over the middle, for what might have been an easier, greater gain. I asked why McNabb hadn't thrown to the tight end. The answer was that Westbrook was No. 2 in McNabb's progression, Smith No. 3. While Mornhinweg wouldn't have downgraded McNabb had he seen Smith and broken the progression to throw to him, McNabb really wasn't supposed to look to Smith until he had checked Westbrook. If Westbrook was open, he was supposed to throw it there. And he did. It isn't the type of deal where you hold off on throwing to 2 while you check on 3, to see if he might be an even better option; the reason Westbrook was second and not later was the pattern he was running, he needed the ball pretty quickly, if he was going to get it.
*To me, McDermott's session was the most accessible and useful, maybe because he took a lot of questions. The prime information there was that McDermott acknowledged what we've all been speculating on -- as he tries to find ways to use all his new personnel, he is thinking of doing more with 3-4 looks. The Eagles' base defense will remain
4-3, but they've shown 3-4 here and there in the past, and that tendency very well might increase. The biggest obstacle would seem to be the lack of a true 3-4-style, monster nose tackle. McDermott said he thought Brodrick Bunkley could fill the bill, and he noted that Antonio Dixon is "320 and rising."
The Eagles also have some variations in which they employ five down linemen, and that might be something McDermott does more with, as well.
The Eagles have different sorts of nickel and dime packages, including one where a nickel back lines up almost as a linebacker. McDermott seems to see Marlin Jackson as a guy he wants to plug into that spot.
We talked a little about how important returning middle linebacker Stewart Bradley is to what McDermott is doing. He noted that not only is Bradley effective against the run, he is very tough to throw over, in the middle of the field.
McDermott confirmed that after those season-ending losses to the Cowboys, he was "seeing bubble screens in my sleep." He didn't give specifics, but obviously, a big focus of his offseason has been plotting to patch that hole.
*I got to ask Roseman about that business with inadvertent post-draft leaking of the Cowboys' draft board, which rated Brandon Graham a high second-rounder, instead of 13th overall, where the Birds traded up to take him. It wasn't surprising to hear him say teams vary greatly in their assessments, often because a particular player does or doesn't fit what you try to do offensively or defensively. In other words, you don't assess players in a vaccuum. A running back with no receiving skills, for example, probably would not get the kind of rating from the Eagles he might get from a team that doesn't throw to its backs.
Roseman said the Eagles predicted the 3 top DEs would go between 13 and 18 in the first round, so they would need to trade up from 24 to get any of them. As it turned out, they all went between 13 and 16.
Last month's Eagles draft had a distinctive big-school feel. In that context, it was interesting to hear Roseman say that one thing they valued in a prospect was "big time producution against big time competition." Of course, smaller school players could give a glimpse of that in postseason all-star games, as he noted.
Some of the media folk present haven't been around Roseman that much, so it wasn't surprising that his background was again a topic for discussion. Roseman framed the issue of "GM as lifelong football geek" vs. "GM as former player or coach" with an image I hadn't heard him use before. "Do you want the doctor who had the illness, or the one who studied it the most?" he asked.
I generally just look for one who accepts my insurance.
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UPDATE: Former Eagles running back Brian Westbrook has concluded his visit with the Washington Redskins and is on his way to Denver to meet with the Broncos coaches, according to ESPN.com.
"He had a really positive visit with the Redskins," said Westbrook's agent, Todd France. "We're confident we're going to find the perfect fit."
as far as QB progression, LJ would probably drop the ball anyway.— palmyra21- I want the doctor who has the Rx for a Super Bowl Hangover!— tjpup
- I'd say 90% of the people posting on here could use a lesson in the game of football.— EaglesBleedMoney
That is a great picture of Cowher! What a CHIN !— Ohmy- Good stuff. Very enjoyable reading....— Grazman
- Max Jean Gilles could have been their "monster nose tackle", and then he went and ruined it with surgery. What a waste.— B in DC
- I don't know why some people are making a big deal out of the Cowboys' assessment of Graham. It's all about the needs of a 3-4 vs. a 4-3. Graham is way too small to be a tie-up end in a 3-4 scheme, so the Cowboys viewed him as a LB, and an undersized LB at that. The Eagles have had success with smaller, pass-rushing DEs in their 4-3, so based on Graham's skills, they felt he was a mid-first rounder.— Raggamonkey
Les,,,while you can only report on what the "Reid wall" will offer in terms of info, this was by far the most eye-opening insight of how the coaching staff operates/thinks. Thanks for bringing it to light. It answers questions that we, the posters, have to otherwise speculate on. Since the braintrust is tighter with info than a (fill in your own analogy here), and based on word limitations in columns, I look forward to further insight about this open-air meeting in the next few days. Enuf about the guy that left for the Skins; it's a non-story and only sparks up useless debate from the annoying 'others' that would rather argue amongst themselves about 'old news'. On another note, it appears that MM is a 'Jeckle and Hyde', depending on his turf. Press conferences = subdued, tight-lipped; in front of a whiteboard = physics professor, majoring in previously unheard of offensive scheme jargon. Time's yours.- So what could be so complicated about the offense -- there's "run" and there's "pass," correct? And the Eagles pass. way. too. much. D'oh! They're sooooo predictable. /sarcasm]— ahab
- after the draft when I went back and looked at all of their choices, the one thing that really jumped out at me was that very "big time production against big time competition" angle. For all the hoopla about vertical jumps and shuttle runs and wunderlic tests etc, sometimes good ol' fashion production gets lost in the shuffle. Nice to have some new guys on board who were known primarily for making plays throughout their college careers, moreso than how many times they benched 225 lbs
- I think it was an excellent idea and I wish I could have been in on those sessions. Coaches always say "You don't know what you don't know." I think it would only make for better sports writers to actually go to "school" and learn enough about their sport on a coach's level to be able to tell us what's what. The thing about the progressions with McNabb not throwing to a wide open LJ was fascinating, and really does illustrate the point of not really being able to judge properly without suficient knowledge.
- Good stuff.— DLG
- spin, spin, spin....I'd rather have a doctor that played the game....than a fantasy football geek whose nose is tied to JoeB's backside....— nuggett
- I find it interesting that the people covering the eagles don't understand how the offence works. Shouldn't you reporters have at least a basic grasp of how the eagles operate in order to analyze/criticize them as much as you do?— dansdigs
- "Do you want the doctor who had the illness, or the one who studied it the most?". Great line.— The Reddgie
