Posted: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 1:07 PM | 40 comments |
 
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      Eagles chairman Jeffrey Lurie has an unfortunate habit of making ringing statements in his annual state-of-the-team address at Lehigh every summer, statements that sometimes come back to haunt Lurie when the organization's actions don't seem to quite match his rhetoric. Everyone remembers the time Lurie patiently explained to reporters that other organizations were always telling the Birds their way of handling things was "the gold standard" in the NFL, despite their lack of a Lombardi Trophy.

   This year's phrase was "pedal to the metal," Lurie's effort to combat perceptions that his organization focusesJeffrey Lurie gets his groove on excessively on the long term, to the detriment of the season at hand. This characterization began to sound unfortunate last week when at the league trading deadline, the Lions finally dealt wideout Roy Williams, and the Chiefs dangled tight end Tony Gonzalez, either of whom would have improved the 3-3 Eagles' chances in the NFC East this season. The Eagles decided the price was too high in both cases, which is a defensible position -- but not a position that gibes with "pedal to the metal" the way most of us understand it.

     Lurie hasn't been interviewed in the week since the deadline came and went, but team president Joe Banner spoke with the team's Website on Monday. Not surprisingly, Banner defended the lack of activity. Most of us, even last summer, figured that if Jeffrey ever truly were inclined to drive "pedal to the metal," Joe would be perched in the passenger's seat working the calculator, explaining the ruinous effect such an approach would have on fuel economy.

    I tend to agree with Banner that the Cowboys really gave a lot for Williams, particularly in the middle of the season, with Williams having to learn a new offense on the fly.

    You read right here before the deadline that the Eagles were skeptical about the Chiefs really wanting to trade Gonzalez, and Banner's statements reflect that skpeticism. Paul Domowitch reported last week that the Birds had offered a fourth-round draft choice that would have become a third if Gonzalez met certain performance requirements. That's not a bad offer for a 32-year-old tight end, even a great 32-year-old tight end. The Packers apparently offered a third straight up and thought they had a deal until right before the deadline, when the Chiefs are said to have abruptly demanded a second-rounder, instead.

    All of that leads you to wonder whether Kansas City was really willing to trade Gonzalez, or just wanted to pay lip service to his trade request. Still, given the play the Birds have gotten from their tight ends this season (fair to poor) and the impact such a move might have had on the locker room, I probably would have tried to force the Chiefs' hand by offering a second-round pick. Maybe that's why I'm not an NFL executive. Or maybe Gonzalez would have put the Birds closer to the front of a roiling, talented NFC East pack coming down the stretch.

   At any rate, here's part of what Joe B. had to say for himself:

   "We've said for years that we're always looking for ways to improve the team every year at the trade deadline as well as on an every-day basis (and) we're doing that. I do think the Chiefs have confirmed that we were one of the teams that inquired about Tony Gonzales and it's a true story. I can't go beyond that or talk about any other players, because they are still on their (respective) teams. Based on the comments coming out since (the trade deadline) and this was our read of the situation when we got in touch (with Kansas City) was that they really did not want to trade him. It didn't mean that if there was something that had blown them away they wouldn't have been interested in terms of somebody being willing to overpay. But the read we had from the beginning was that they were very reluctant, although they felt compelled based on his request (to be traded) to at least listen to offers they got. I guess in the end they made the judgment that none of the offers they got were good enough."
   

  On the idea of 'going for it' and overpaying for a player in a trade:

     "It's a meaningless term to me. We're 'going for it' every day of the year, as are more teams. If 'going for it' means would we do something stupid, then I hope the answer to that is no. If 'going for it' is, would we look for every opportunity to try to be aggressive and try to make it happen ... the answer to that is always yes."

On the Roy Williams trade to Dallas:

 "They paid a lot. Time will tell. I wouldn't pay that much for a player like that -- and I think he is a very good player, so I don't mean that as if he isn't -- but that's a major step."

      

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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:14 PM, 10/21/2008
    HAH, glad i'm a Giants fan... GO BIG BLUE!!!!
    sduffy
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:49 PM, 10/21/2008
    dallas paid too much. no ifs, ands, or buts about it. and the eagles should never entertain the thought of giving up that much for a guy that said he wanted to play in texas. they undeservedly made him one of the highest paid players in the league. so the eagles would have had to top that contract to even think about trading a 1st and a 3rd for him... as for this "we're going for it every day of the year." BS. oh yeah, they'll do it... on their terms: trading someone they dont want for a good player (stallworth), getting an absolute steal in a trade (TO for a 4th rd pick). they dont even look to pay fair market value for anything they didnt draft. they look to under pay. about once every 3 years they get a real big free agent. what frustrates the fan base is the perception they give of this great franchise that wins at all costs. it's a business, and most of us understand that. the problem arises when they try to talk to us like it's anything other than a business to them. if it were any different then what's with the $19+ million cap room? 0 1st rd picks in 2 years? was there a player in the 1st rd worth giving the money to that would come with that pick? probably. were they willing to give that money to a rookie in that spot? probably not.
    mikeb
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:02 PM, 10/21/2008
    All the elite teams have a punishing power running game. If you don't have one you won't command any respect. Therefore, since the running attack in Philly is non-existent, the Eagles are a mediocre team and no flashy TE or WR is going to make a difference. Period.
    MJPD345
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:22 PM, 10/21/2008
    Yes, I do agree with Banner that Dallas paid to much for Williams but that does not excuse him for not going out and getting Gonzalaz for 2nd round or 3rd round pick..We used our 3rd round pick for Tony Hunt 2 years ago and look how good that came out..The bottom line is the Eagles will never go the extra mile to win. Lurie, Banner, Reid and Heckert just care about the bottom line..
    14U2C
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:22 PM, 10/21/2008
    Yes, I do agree with Banner that Dallas paid to much for Williams but that does not excuse him for not going out and getting Gonzalaz for 2nd round or 3rd round pick..We used our 3rd round pick for Tony Hunt 2 years ago and look how good that came out..The bottom line is the Eagles will never go the extra mile to win. Lurie, Banner, Reid and Heckert just care about the bottom line..
    14U2C
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:41 PM, 10/21/2008
    Snore...Hey Banner, why has our beloved team fallen short for the last 42 years? Look in the mirror you egomaniac.
    ematusko
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:54 PM, 10/21/2008
    Les, at some point, please do an analysis on all of the high-profile trades they didn't complete versus the picks they ended up with. I'm not an objective person and will guess that the Eagles didn't win by opting to draft the Tony Hunts of the past ten years instead.
    battman21
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:55 PM, 10/21/2008
    Not much to add other than to echo: Gonzalez for a 2nd rounder would have been a no-brainer to virtually anyone other than Eagles brass. Just who do they think they're passing on in 2009 that will pay bigger dividends?
    JeffA
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:56 PM, 10/21/2008
    I actually don't agree that Dallas gave up too much, but I agree with all of your other points MikeB. Dallas gave up a 1, 3 and a 6. As we all know, a 6th rounder is hit or miss. Many of them don't even make the team. Philly.com ran a story a couple of days after the deal that showed that we are about 50-50 on 3rd rd picks over the past 6-8 years. So no real loss there. All we were giving up would be a 1st rder and we traded our last 2 of those. Not to mention that the Carolina 1st rounder we have is getting worse each week as the Panthers keep winning.
    derrickwh
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:56 PM, 10/21/2008
    The effect on the locker-room cannot be under-estimated. TonyG is a first rate guy by all reports, his influence, his stature, would easily outweigh his price.
    JeffA
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:02 PM, 10/21/2008
    Mr. Mediocre
    JFD
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:20 PM, 10/21/2008
    3rd round pick = the moon. GFY Banner. Hug it, Spadaro.
    MTbelly


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Les BowenLes Bowen has covered the Eagles for the Daily News since 2002. Before that, he spent nearly 13 years covering the Flyers. It took Les only a few seasons after the switch to figure out that there was no penalty box at the Linc, and that the time really wasn't his, despite what Andy Reid kept saying. Les came to Philadelphia and the Daily News from Charlotte in 1983. In the intervening years, he has pretty much lost track of NASCAR, and his accent. He, his wife Barbara, and their two sons live in Haddon Township, New Jersey. E-mail Les at bowenl@phillynews.com and follow him on Twitter.

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