Andy: Juan to Make Calls 'As I Stand Here Now'
The Philadelphia Daily News - Eagletarian
Andy: Juan to Make Calls 'As I Stand Here Now'
Les Bowen, Daily News Staff Writer
Eagles coach Andy Reid confronted a host of questions at his day-after news conference, in the aftermath of the Eagles' meltdown against the Lions, in which the Birds blew a 10-point lead in the final five minutes of regulation.
Reid spoke of doing a comprehensive evaluation during the bye week. Asked specifically if defensive coordinator Juan Castillo would continue to make the defensive calls in games, Reid said he would "as I'm standing here right now." That seemed less than a ringing endorsement.
Reid spoke of wanting to "tear things apart" during the bye week. He noted that there is "a lot of season ahead" for his 3-3 team. "I still believe we have a good football team," he said.
Though he expressed only lukewarm support for Castillo, the offensive line coach turned defensive coordinator, Reid vigorously disputed corner Nnamdi Asomugha's postgame contention that the Eagles changed their coverage scheme and blitzed more in the fourth quarter, after keeping the Lions in check for three quarters.
Reid did acknowledge that when the Lions flexed tight end Tony Scheffler wide, the Eagles went to dime coverage, with corner Brandon Hughes on Scheffler. That was the setup on the 57-yard broken-play reception that got the Lions back in the game, four snaps after Jeremy Maclin gave the Eagles a 23-13 lead.
Reid also scrutinized the offense's confused, horrendous start.
"We started poor. I mean poor," said Reid, who noted that the Eagles lead the NFL with 17 turnovers following two picks and a fumble against Detroit. He called that figure "ridiculous."
Reid reserved the word "pathetic" for the Eagles' final two drives, the last drive in regulation and the overtime disaster that set up the Lions' winning field goal. The Eagles had scored on their first four possessions of the second half, a touchdown and three field goals, before not scoring on their final possession of regulation, and going backward 21 yards on their only possession of OT.
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I will not watch another Eagles game until Nick Foles is the starting QB & Todd Bowles is the DC. They are the most non-enjoyable team to watch. Complete mess on the field. So sloppy!! And Andy doesn't have the sack to make any of the changes listed above.. I those 2 moves are the only thing that could save his job here. Anyone who thinks this team is a Super Bowl contender with Mike Vick & Juan Castillo in power is out of their freakin mind!! I've seen the late Jim Johnson outsmarted in the post season... What do you think is going to happen to Castillo??— FetchDixon- You won't have to worry about it; there won't be any postseason! — JBinPA
- J.J. saved Andy's bacon for years. He passed on and now it's time to pass on to a new beginning. — bonnerlou
- Last time I checked, a good offense makes the best defense. Eagles offense regularly leaves the defense in less than desirable situations (turnovers/poor field position), and the fact the offense can barely manage 20 pts against the Lions leads one to think maybe the defense has given up on the offense and the "Mike Vick experiment".
Need new attitude, leadership, game planning and clock management.— Professor1982 - Reid will not change. Oh sure, he might change for a game, maybe even two. Nothing will change under this regime so it's time to change the regime. Does Jeffy have the guts? The Tonner's not sure. The Tonner just hopes Jeffy will do a total housecleaning and bring in a personnel person with a track record instead of hoping the mailroom flunkie they promoted to GM will start making wise player choices. Whether you like it or whether you don't like it, learn to love it because it's the truth according to the Tonner and it's the best thing going today.
- You took the words right out of my mouth. Anyone who believes Reid will change...well, I got some prime real estate on Mars I'll sell them for.01 cent per ten thousand acres...no, make that square miles. If they believe Reid, they'll buy the property. — essell
- So you're suggesting, with the same game plans; a less mobile rookie Quarterback behind the Eagles rice paper Offensive Line is a viable solution?
That is as ridiculous as asking Vick to stay in the pocket to wait for 20 yard routes to develop.— Dexter - Les Bowen is a joke. Why isn't he asking about REid being ont he hot seat? — ebola
- Its funny how all you loser fans want Foles as QB. He will play one series and get killed. New Song for the Birds!! CRASH EAGLES CRASH..in the city of Crying morons!— MRD
- This comment has been deleted. — papabear702
- As i look all around the league, all i see is rookie qbs winning games. RG3 beat Brees, Wilson beat Brady, Locker beat Ben R , Luck beat Rodgers... On and on it goes. Foles has what it takes to be a starter. Vick is just to inconsistent to ever be a superbowl caliber qb so why are we wasting time with him. He might get us to the playoffs this yr, but does anyone really expect him to make a deep run? Everyone will be watching and waiting for him to get strip sacked or injured, or dive head first untouched and leaving the ball on the ground for the defense to pick up. Someone please explain to me what Mike Vick has accomplished to warrant being unbenchable. Quick fixes rarely work in football, the only way to win a superbowl is to draft and develop your own qb. By giving Vick more time all your doing is prolonging a poor decision to bring him here in the first place. It pains me to say this, but i hope we don't win the superbowl this yr, i don't wanna be tied to this guy for the next 3-5 years because he got lucky once. He's incapable of consistent play, his entire football career is more than enough proof. Period! — The Pink Floyd
- Oh, and the reason why Vick won't get benched is because of that lofty contract he was given. That would mean Reid and the brass paid a guy 100 million based on one or two games in the 2010 season. Thier egos won't allow them to admit that was a mistake. Reid is going to ride it to the bitter end, and as it looks Reid is going down in flames. I love the team but our head coach is not up to task, as I've stated before, that was evident when he had a lead in the SB and was out coached. It's time for new head coach who knows how to use the talents of this team.
- " It pains me to say this, but i hope we don't win the superbowl this yr..."
Believe me, from the evidence presented thus far, that is ONE thing you won't have to worry about.— essell - There may be something to your proposal, however the last two weeks the Eagles loss because they were unable to maintain leads going into the 4th Quarter.
Blaming Vick for the Defense's inability to hold on to a league is useless, unless you're now suggesting Vick should be held accountable for the weak safety play in those games that directly attributed to those losses.
Besides, chances are good that if Vick wasn't getting creamed in the pocket he would not be in the positions to fumble. Same with the RZ Offense, the Eagles can't score because they don't have the O Linemen to punch the ball into the End Zone with one of the top RBs in the game in their backfield.
— Dexter - Spot on. Vick's had some turnovers where he was to blame but 90% of them are a DIRECT result of the O-line thats plain embarrassing. All the Vick haters please give me an average # of seconds Vick had to throw the ball after the snap before getting contacted - use the last two games. From what i saw, it was less than 3 seconds. THREE. I dont give a $H!t if you are Aaron rodgers you are not completing a pass when you have a Defensive end in your face 2 seconds after the ball is snapped. 2 things must happen: 1. shake up the oline until it gives QB at least 4-5 seconds to pass the ball 2.Bring back JJ blitz defense, and if it means firing Castillo, so be it. — alex0201
- No offensive line in football gives their qb 5 seconds to throw the ball. That's utterly ridiculous, and you think by putting in more backups(a shakeup as you called it) your gonna get better!?! Keep dreamin. The O-line was terrible and has not been good but don't let one aspect cloud your judgement so much you can't see anything else. Sounds like another Vick apologist who says oh just use the last 2 games, all because you think the O-line sucked the last 2 games so you can apologize for everything Mike has done wrong this year(Which is a ton). You guys find scapegoats at every corner for him. Just like they always go to the 6 game stretch(which they routinely say was a whole season, but wasn't) in 2010 to prove hes an elite qb. The man has an entire career worth of poor decisions and never winning big games. Defensive Coordinators love facing Vick cause he is so easy to gameplan for. Used to be keep him in the pocket and contain so he doesn't run all over the field and you'd win easily. Now hes lost a couple steps so it's keep him in the pocket and blitz, forcing him to throw or scramble and you'll get turnovers galore. Same book different page. — The Pink Floyd
- Hey, it's 'The Pink Floyd'. Still beating the Vick Apologist drum, are you? What happened, run out of good Michael Vick/child slavery jokes that you thought were so cute?
...by the way, there are legit arguments to be made against Vick's play that people with legit football acumen have made. But #The Pink Floyd, your blind hate of Vick does not make you one of those people. ...and no, starting Nick Foles is not an answer. I loved what Foles did in the preseason, but to say "Foles has what it takes to be a starter" like you just stated is an asinine statement, because even pro NFL coaches would not know that based on his college days and his limited amount of work in the preseason. Again, your blind hate gets in the way of facts.
And for the record, this is not about apologizing for Vick's play, but about the facts. If I really did think Foles was the better option, I would be the first one on here yelling that out. ...just look at my comments from '09 & '10 when I clearly thought Kolb was the better option over Vick, and argued tooth & nail with that point with people here on philly.com. Turns out I was wrong.
As far as the rest of the season, it would be asinine of me to still argue that this team is a contender - like I have so far this season - BUT it ain't over. The Eagles have 2 weeks to prepare for possibly the best team in the NFC at the Linc, then have a supposed easier schedule the rest of the way. After that, well...
...as far as the Castillo column, err. we'll see we'll see.
- You say blind hate, yet i say look at his entire career. You say we're not a contender, yet give Vick a free pass despite his 17! turnovers in 6 games. You say look at the facts, yet give none(i've read your comment 2x now and still haven't found one fact), and then you predictably go directly to the Foles is a rookie argument because well, how else do you cover up for a guy who should be benched. Oh right, you say the next guy in line couldn't do any better. Well guess what, i say he can't do any worse! — The Pink Floyd
- Yes. Blind hate. Your quote - "I hear Vick has the underground market cornered on the under 10 kid fights. They steal kids from there parents yards and force them to fight in basements. Maybe that's why Mike sucks at football, he's finally found his next true passion, and his name is Lil Clubba Lang, a chubby 8 yr with a monster left hook. Overheard mike sayin he thinks he can make him a grand champion. Follow your dreams Mike." ...Any more questions?
No surprise your comment was made on a Nick Foles story. And here is the link if you just need verification:
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20120930_Eagles__Nick_Foles__Cool__calm__inevitable.html?viewAll=Y&#comments - Anyways, getting back to football talk. No one is giving Vick a free pass. I'm just stating he is the #1 option at QB as Foles has not proved anything yet in the NFL (even though I'm as pissed as anyone about his turnovers). ...You question facts after making a statement like - "Foles has what it takes to be a starter". smh. ...and I like Foles and am excited to see what happens to him - but c'mon now, lets get real.
And you want more facts? Well if you actually were able to comprehend what you watched yesterday, you would've realized that Vick was most effective on the short drops/quick reads - as Moose Johnston pointed out when the playcalling inexplicable reverted back to 7 step drops at the end of the 4th and O.T. ????
Furthermore, in the games against n.y. & pitt, Vick had a 136 passer rating against the blitz in those game - ya know, short drops/quick read passing typing situations. And I haven't the numbers yet, but Vick did throw that T.D. to Maclin against a Lions' blitz. Understand?
So we can talk facts if ya want, but with your blind hate of Vick, that might be a tough thing for you to do.
...oh, and I didn't say they definitely weren't a contender anymore, just that it's a ridiculous case to make given the way they played so far. Again, the season still has 10 games to go, the talent is there, and I've seen too many things in my life to just discount something from happening based on my own initial anger. ....The giants weren't considered a contender either last year until the last game of the season...
- Michael Vick is a chump and i would be ashamed to stick up for him on a personal level. Dudes gonna be right back on the streets the second he gets canned from football, so i'll just wait till he gets busted for god knows what this time and then gloat. Back to football, I'll say his weaknesses definitely get exploited more because his coaching is severely overrated, but aren't qb's supposed to have a command of their offense, the ability to change plays, change line calls, really take control of his offense. Why doesn't Vick do this? You basically took a couple plays(Maclin td included) and you assume he can repeat these plays. He hasn't shown during his entire career hes capable of reproducing these events on any consistent basis so why assume it'll happen now? 6 lonely games is all he can call the best stretch of his career, hes a 32yr old whos past his prime and really hasn't learned a whole lot since getting here. I know this because he keeps repeating the same mistakes over and over. You keep pointing the finger at a small stretch of games just so you can keep hope alive, and i'll keep assuming he'll do exactly what he's done for the last 10 years and blow it. Which is about the only consistent thing he does. — The Pink Floyd
- "Michael Vick is a chump and i would be ashamed to stick up for him on a personal level. Dudes gonna be right back on the streets the second he gets canned from football, so i'll just wait till he gets busted for god knows what this time and then gloat."
You have shown your true colors...no need to say anything else.
- Facts are facts, so much for reality. Oh look Castillo just got canned. What ya gonna say when Vick is next to fall, who ya gonna blame that on?. Just be real, 17 turnovers in 6 games plus another 4-5 fumbles he was lucky to get back, plus several more dropped int's, he's been terribly inconsistent yet you think i want him replaced for personal reasons. No, i hate him personally but i want him replaced cause hes the same wannabe quarterback he's been for 10 yrs!.I hated him in 2010, yet i still went to games and rooted for my team cause he has a right to do whatever he wants. He paid his dues, who doesn't accept that? You stand up for him for no apparent reason. I'm wondering if this is a black/white thing cause i can't figure out why so many people defend him no matter what he does. You should read some of my other posts. The ones saying i don't fault him for living his life however he chooses, signing a monster contract... but i don't have to pretend to respect the guy. Their have been tons of players on philly teams that i disliked personally but i don't fault them for living their life, playing a sport they love, a sport that provides for his family and i don't say get off the team for personal reasons! You apparently can't distinguish between the two for some blind hatred you have towards people who speak reality. — The Pink Floyd
- In two weeks when they beat Atlanta, everyone will be saying "Superbowl" again and Obama (I mean Juan) will not be the fall guy anymore....well, at leat not for another week or so.— Voytas
- If you think the Eagles are going to beat Atlanta, I need to drink what you're drinkin'.
Beyond the fact the Falcon's have the very same bye week as the Eagles, the Falcons possess the right combination of talent, leadership and attitude that the Eagles dream about.
Reid's undefeated following the bye will come to an end this year.— Professor1982 - Undefeated after the bye says otherwise and as well as Atl has been playing (some of the last few weeks show leaks), they will not run the table. The NFL is all about situation and the Eagles will be more desperate and will almost certainly get the win. If not, well then the season ends and we can all enjoy watching it go up in flames. — Jdub1981
- "If you think the Eagles are going to beat Atlanta, I need to drink what you're drinkin'."
Or smoking. Apparently, some people are hard to convince since they don't believe their lying eyes. Next five games: Falcons, Saints, Cowboys, Redskins, Panthers, and I'm not sure the Eagles are up to the task against ANY of them. Even the Redskins have gotten a whole lot tougher and they can score and look like a REAL football team in the process. Dallas is due for win and I'm sure the Eagles will oblige them. New Orleans? The Eagles will do their usual belly up routine in the face of adversity. I really don't see much chance for them to go beyond 5-11, 6-10 this season. They MAY have a chance against the Panthers. They MAY have a chance against Dallas...maybe. The OL is a mess, and Vick's generosity doesn't help matters. The D can't hold a lead so we're toast this year.
Forgeddaboutit.
— essell - To FetchDixon: It would certainly seem you will never again watch an Eagles game!
They've way too much into T. O. Vick to begin starting someone else--excepting for injury. The collapses in the fourth quarter are absolutely typical of the NFL, where a good defensive job for three or three and a half quarters always seems to demand a change to something else. The NFL is a follow the leader league, and it seems that if one of the geniuses of NFL coaching once gets away with something that makes no sense then everyone has to follow suit. Actually Juan Castillo's defense has, generally, been fairly decent this year, at least till the last half of the fourth quarter yesterday.
BTW, must agree that T. O. Vick has been poison this year. In the NFL, the team with fewer turnovers wins the game about 80% of the time, and that is a long-time statistic. So, you can figure where I stand on a guy that's on a pace for thirty-five turnovers this year.
GOOD GRIEF!— BEMiller - On a similar but separate note...Babin said they have a great defensive line...what??? No sacks in three games...they are a horrible defensive line and I blame him in large part. That fool was talking about running with the bulls in off season and was clearly not focused and it shows— Friend to All
- Ahh yes, was just waiting for the Babin comment. I'm not going to blame the entire DL production on just him, but he is definitely not helping matters ANY this season. This team will enter full on SKISM mode when SHTF in ATL in 2 weeks. Vick will not solve his turnover problems and throw at least 1 pick to Asante, the DL will continue the sack drought, although they may get one or two, the Superstar RB will see the ball less than he did against the Lions, and of course Izel "Toast" Jenk... I mean Nnamdi will get burned at least once by Mr Jones and Mr White. The full monty of AR blunders will be on display with poor clock management, costly challenges, and a gameplan that plays right into the opponents strengths. I predict a nice little Falcons blow out of the Eagles to the tune of 34-9. Mike Vick gets his first remark in the media about possible changes coming to any and ALL positions, more players on defense will point fingers at the next man, Celek will still celebrate first downs, even when we are down by 21 points in the 4th quarter, and the media will have a field day, with advertisers running crazy to get some add space as the news columns are sure to draw 200+ comments in the aftermath. Get ready Eagles fans. This is truly about to get interesting. — papabear702
- I predict about the same humiliation vis a vis the Falcons. As I've posted previously, it would take a miracle on the order of divine intervention to cause the Eagles to suddenly develop the skill and talent to become competitive with teams on the level of the Falcons, Giants, Saints, and yes, even the Redskins are looking potent. The Eagles were lucky to have caught the Giants early and now they seem to be reaching their stride. RGIII has made the Redskins much better by leaps and bounds. The Saints started slow but by the time the Eagles play them, they'll be at the point where they'll no longer be as vulnerable as they were initially.
The problem, the SOLE problem, with the Eagles lie in Reid's stubbornness, his inability to adapt, or just , psychologically, chronic obsessive-compulsive disorder. Now, I'm no psychologist but as a former U.S.Army Clinical Specialist (LPN equivalent) I've had some exposure to those suffering from similar afflictions. Of course, I jest with the OCD description but Reid DOES have a problem with letting go and DOES have a rigid propensity for repetition which, I'm sure, most of us find....strange as the human animal has been proven to be able to adapt to most changing situations . Which is what separates us from other species. Whatever the reason, it ain't working for the team or it's fans.— essell - I don't how Nick Foles can help. A rookie QB behind that offensive line would get smoked. I agree with the issues about the DC though— missurichie
- Most of the those posting are in denial. Sunday against Detroit should have driven home the primary problem. The Detroit D Line mauled the Eagles Offensive Line. The O Line was shown to be chumps who lack heart and constantly got their lunch money taken in the school yard. Herrenman, Bell and Watkins were physically abused as they are most weeks leading to Vick getting creamed all day. — Dexter
- Hey Papabear702...go back to bed!— MRD
- CLASSIC... Look, click on my name and read my timeline. In the off season, preseason, I was all for Vick. Even the first couple of games, I was riding with him. But as I said, really ask yourself, how many turnovers is too many? There's plenty of blame to hand to the defense and special "ED" teams. But you can't really start putting blame on ANYONES plate if your Reid, if you have a QB who hasn't even gotten a nasty look after ALL THESE TURNOVERS. How can Reid demand so much more from everyone else, when he won't even think about benching Vick. If nothing, to let him get his cage unrattled. Let him see how this offense should be executing. YOU CAN'T BLAME THE D FOR FOLDING IN THE END, WHEN WE HAD THE BALL WITH 4 MINUTES LEFT ON THE CLOCK. THAT'S ONLY 2 FIRST DOWNS!!! — papabear702
- We've seen this before. This is what a team looks like as it slides toward irrelevance in the NFL. This team could and maybe should be 1 - 5. It is in shambles and it needs to be gutted. This is what happens without leadership on the sidelines or under center.— jgalt52
- I posted before that, except for the phantom Offensive PI call at the end of the Ravens game and Giants fluke missed field goal, the Eagles are 1-5. Add in the missed easy INT in the endzone at the end of the Browns game and we're looking at 0 - 6!! Yeah, that sounds just about right for this team! Better lucky than good only lasts so long in this league! — gdibig
- Get rid of both of them! and they can take Vick with them!— lost eagle
- Babin is focused; he's just not talented. One trick ponies don't last long in he NFL.— JBinPA
- Hmmm, interesting take. The Eagles do have other starting talent at the DE positions. Do you think maybe this could be one of AR's "evaluations"?
- Times yours Jeffrey!— JBP
- The EAGLES and their coaching staff lack the "Killer" instinct. They do not know how to finish games.— A. Martinez
- FetchDixon - I hope they listen to you and do all of that... I don't know what the rest of the season will be for the Eagles if they don't have your support! In case they continue on as they are, PLEASE reconsider!!!— macd41144
- to missurichie... Foles would help because he is intelligent enough to make quick reads and get the ball out. The whole staff raved about this in the preseason. It isn't entirely the O-lines fault that Vick gets battered. He can't process his reads quick enough, in turn he holds the ball too long. Come on... You've heard Vick talk.. He's a freaking idiot. He's like a reject on the podium.— FetchDixon
- I'm not even going to get into the whole, reads plays quicker because he is intelligent deal, because as a black man, i know how that comes off. But quite frankly, the numbers don't lie, Jaws said it on Sunday Countdown, of ALL the QB's in the NFL, Mike Vick is the ONLY QB who is averaging holding onto the balls for over 3 seconds. This is a recipe to get crushed. He is not ATL Vick, and I KNOW I don't want that Vick ANYWHERE NEAR my Philadelphia Eagles. Vick is THE fatal flaw in our team right now, and if that doesn't get corrected, Reid will throw his season away on this cancer. Vick should be where McNabb and TO are and they should be where Vick is. Vick DOES NOT DESERVE THE REMAINDER OF HIS CONTRACT, and I for one will be glad to see it terminated at the end of this season. — papabear702
- The West Coast Offense that we supposedly run here in Philly is all about short drops, quick releases, and YAC! Step, step, step, throw - then let your receiver get yards! Exactly what Foles showed in the pre-season!
Vick is always standing in the pocket waiting for a 50 yard play to develop so he's holding the ball for 5 - 7 seconds! It's no wonder he's getting smeared on the field.
Now, whether this is him wanting to get on ESPN Top 10 or the play calling I don't know. But in the late 3rd and early 4th yesterday the short drop/quick throw was working and he wasn't getting hit. Same as last week. Why do they insist on going away from it - or taking so long to get back to it?
Oh yeah, Reid's "genius"!— gdibig - @FetchDixon. Again with this Vick "lacking intelligence" nonsense. ...and this classic - "He's like a reject on the podium." Again, arguments like this are null & void because they are coming from an ignorant standpoint. Not gonna speculate exactly what kind of ignorance - as ignorance encompasses a wide spectrum - but it's ignorance nonetheless.
As far as Vick holding onto the ball too long, most of that is not on him - some, but definitely not most. Take that one offensive series in OT, Moose Johnston was blasting the playing calling from MM - the deep 7 foot drops that Vick was required to take in order for the play to develop. And Moose went out of his way to point out that the whole game that they were calling the quick read/quick passes that were far more effective than the the deep drops. ...I, myself was thinking, 'what is going on????' The scenario reminded me of something that took place years ago when McNabb was the QB. I forget the player, but this opposing Defensive LB had this to say about AR's offense {paraphrasing}: "That's what the Eagles do. When they get desperate, they try to pass their way out of that." That's exactly my take on the baffling play calling late in the 4th quarter & in OT. They went right back to those long developing passes with an OL that has been struggling all year - and the results were the same.
But when Vick was indeed making the quick reads - against the blitz at times - he was effective. ie., the TD to Maclin. So again, it's not a matter of Vick's intelligence - on or off the field - it's the intelligence of the play calling. - Reid should look in the mirror. Too many incomplete passes stopping the clock with a lead in the fourth quarter, and that offensive series in OT was laughable. Most teams would love to have a talent like McCoy, but Reid continues to waste him.— meanness
- macd41144.... I'm glad you enjoy taking in the product that is on the field this season. I do not.— FetchDixon
- The wheels are off the wagon folks. As much as I hate to say it, the giants will walk away with the NFC east. Iggles at best will salvage another 8-8 season and then the purge begins. Followed by a long rebuilding period leading to their next super bowl loss in 2028.— bigdaddyG
- Why do the reporters still go to these news conf? They should all get together and boycott them till Andy changes his tone and actually gives them something to write about. How many yrs have they all heard "we got to do a better job".— AJL99
love fetchdixon's wonderful comment "Andy doesn't have the sack.." im dying.
Vick got sack though. a ton of em!! man that kid can take some abuse. he certainly is strug-gul-ling man Marty aint helpin him one bit!! .— daveH- When Vick throws in 3 we have success. When he is indecisive and dances around in the pocket we lose.— Bruddah
- When the whole team sucks it is not any one player on either side of the ball it is the coaches. The D is playing good enough to win if the O would put up the points that every one thinks they can, oh and maybe the special teams can try to do something.— urbnasty
- Marty M was the reason for the two "three and outs" yesterday at the end....his play calling stinks.....up the middle for a half yard....When we need to run out the clock????
— SkipinWV - we now have a team with bad coaches and undersized players. We'll be rebuilding for 3 years after Andy gets fired.— NJ_taxpayer
- Anybody who wants to dismiss the idea of Nick Foles being an upgrade at the QB position out of hand is not being reasonable. He demonstrated the ability to do a large majority of things a starting QB needs to do during the pre-season. Getting the ball out on time and accurately on a three-step drop with little danger of batted balls due to his 6'6" size comes to mind immediately. Our wide receivers and tight ends can have a field day on three step drops alone. Then there is his touch on the screen pass again combined with low batted balls probability. Those things are not dependent on great offensive line play nor are they easily stopped by even the best of defenses. Think of it, using the screen more effectively to Shady, like the Westbrook days. The kid showed he has the mind-set to succeed and many of the physical tools as well. If you're so dead set on supporting a sinking ship's captain after repeated iceberg collisions, you deserve to enjoy the trip to the bottom. I for one support major change. I don't see it happening, I see coordinator changes coming before a QB change; but I support major change and Vick is not immune when being objective.— bentlip
- People will stop screaming for Foles theh first time he plays and turns the ball over even more than Vick does.— SteveS11
- That's a foolish assessment, however what the fans will then be screaming for is the front office to clean house and start over. I would at this point rather our season goes in the tank behind a rookie, who we could then gauge to determine if we need another QB for the future, or if we already have one. Another reason being that Vick's play DOES NOT warrant him being paid $16 million next season and into the future when clearly the turnover problem which hasn't just shown up today but rather been present since week 14 in 2010. Vick supporters are becoming less and less with each waning week and each additional turnover. Just to check, what's you number?? How many turnovers is going to be too many for you to stomach. Mine was 10. So yea, was THROUGH with Vick after PIT. — papabear702
- The line looks so bad because of Marty's play calling and Vick's statue like pocket presence! Quicker pass patterns and screens would be nice to keep the rush off of him. A step to the side here or there might allow the rushers to go right past him but he stands still or worse runs into the rushers. The great QB's are all slow and immoile but avoid sacks with good awareness. Vick does not have this or do this and the line looks horrible because he doesn't. Play calling could solve a lot there and Marty is as bad as Juan.— connorjr
- If Vick would run at the appropriate time he still has the talent to thrive. One read and one progression, then run north/south! Trouble comes when he "extends the play" running around in the backfield. Trying to keep him "in the pocket" is breeding this turnover fest. I actually still believe they will make the postseason. I know the sky is falling in Philly, but they are still in the middle of things and I think they beat ATL at home in two weeks. Time will tell, but Dallas/Washington are not scary and they already beat NYG and Bal. Skeptics say "they could be 0-6", but if you buy that argument they could also be 5-1...— cdedrick05
- The wait is over; I’m done with the Eagles. I pulled my license plate boarder and taking down every and anything around my house that says Eagles. After 52 years, seriously 52 freakin nightmare years since the Eagles were champions. I’ve been an Eagles fan as long as I can remember, wore my Eagles jersey under my uniform in the 1st gulf war, wore anything Eagles in all the foreign countries I was assigned to, I was always proud to call myself an Eagles fan. After yesterday all I can say is how ashamed I am of this Eagles franchise. Vick got paid and got lazy, Coach Reid has nothing to offer this group……..it’s time for a change and I’m starting with me. Good bye— Sportsterroy
- FetchDixon - It has nothing to do with if I enjoy the product, but what I REALLY enjoy is your "not" supporting the team while reading articles and posting multiple times on them. While we're at it, what I am tired of is this "sky is falling" mentality of this city! There is too much in going on to point the finger at one person or position. Blame Vick because in you opinion he's not smart enough to play QB, but your logic is flawed. If the Eagles are misevaluating Vick's abilities, then how do you know they didn't do the same with Foles(who was a 3rd rounder)? We also don't know if Bowles is already calling the plays with Castillo just looking like he is for Reid to keep face for placing him. Not to mention that Vick had 313 yards, 2 tds, ran for 59 yards, and had a TD stolen from him with that phantom pass interference on Celek while taking hit way more than he should.— macd41144
- @macd41144--- Vick should have you as his personal PR Rep. Boy how you point out Vick's GOOD stats. But fail to point out the 2 INT, one while in the opponents 40, so basically from just outside FG range, and also forget to point out the fumble that EVERYONE saw coming at least 5 plays before when they had the play stopped for encroachment, and then again like 2 plays later, but Vick lucked up and recovered, only to eventually fail anyways. But that's on the Center, although we're not going to throw anyone under the bus. Just like we're not going to throw anyone under the bus after we put the D in a position to win the Steelers and Lions game. Don't mention the turnovers that cost us points in both games. what matters is that we blew a lead in the 4th quarter. Is it possibly because players are gassed from constantly having to make up for your mistakes early in the game, thus draining energy and focus that they would need for the last moments of the game?? Couldn't be that. It's the D Coordinators, not Vick's. — papabear702
- Flawed System-
Howard Mudd's offensive line concept = Smallish "Athletic" guys who are incapable of blocking. Andy Reid's football players= Undisciplined, unmotivated and just plain heartless.— Mike Boryla 
I think Reid wants Vick to get hurt so he can put Foles in without having to have a big press conference since he might say something stupid and hates the media. Easiest solution. Thats why they called 7 step drop backs 3x times in a row with 3 mins left when all they needed was to run out the clock. GENIUS ANDY. GENIUS.- That's the point were I cut off the Eagles Game! Horrible game planning considering the ineffectiveness of their Offensive Line the first 6 weeks of this season. I sincerely believe Andy is grieving the death of his son and his mind isn't into game planning. It's understandable that he would still be traumatized. — Dexter
- The numbers don't lie: 2nd least PPG on offense, 2nd worst turnover differential, and 3rd from bottom in sacks. Opposition is getting more opportunities to score without being pressured. Turning over the ball in the red zone without points is a killer. Overall, the opposing team is getting to dictate the flow of the game.— beegal99
- @gdibig: totally agree about the west coast being based on the 3 step and YAC. Andy has been unfaithful to that scheme since #5 left. He wasn't completely faithful to it even back then. The fact is that Andy is a heretic if the WC offense is an ideal to be upheld. Nick Foles can run the WC offense well and it's going to come out and be shown true eventually by injury or poor play. You give these receivers and backs passes on the money in stride and see what happens then!— bentlip
- Brandon Hughes should be cut by the end of the day today - what a pathetic performance...He should not be in the NFL period...— briman
- Just like Reid, threaten Juan to deflect blame from Vick, Morhinweig, and himself. The offense went MINUS yards in OT and sent the defense out to stop the Lions with the ball on the 50 yard line. The defense only had a 15 yard field goal cushion. By far the biggest problem here is the offense, low point output, turnovers, giving up field position. The defense has played good enough to win! They have not given up excessive points.— Taser
- True, Juan's defense had zero margin for error when it came out on the field in OT. The Lions only needed 10-15 yards to get into field goal range. Vick and the offense did nothing but hurt the team in OT.
— Kioto - The good news is that nobody in the NFL looks like they're any better than anyone else, so being 3-3 isn't that bad.
The bad news is that you can't lose the turnover battle and consider yourself a playoff caliber team, and I don't see that changing anytime soon, do you?— dlivesay - It just occurred to me how much AR loves gadgets on both sides of the ball. Mudd's offensive line concepts, the wide-9, run pass option from the Rback on the 1 yard line, dusting out the ole college option play with Vick on the 1 yard line, etc. Oh yeah least i forget, passing in situations where running out the clock by RUNNING the ball is the mathematically correct option. Everything about how Andy manages this team is all about being seen as a MAVERICK. Well on that note it is just about time for Lurie to do the INNOVATOR thing and relieve AR of his job.— damrvrhunter
- Maybe it's time for a different direction. The same problems keep coming up.— p-diddy
- Tell Mike Vick you have exactly 2.5- max 3 seconds to get rid of the ball. It's kinda simple.
If you hold the ball you will get sacked just like the late great D-Mac did.
The entire offense should be 2-3 step drop- then throw- or run the f-ing ball with the top 2 running back in the NFL- simple.
I still believe Andy Reid's IQ is very low, its quite obvious. He might be the world's greatest "prepared coach"- unfortunately you cannot prepare fro and entire NFL game- IT CHANGES!!!!!— Keep The Change - Also, the people who think the Eagles should be 1-5 need to get a grip. I think the Eagles are mediocre, not terrible. I think the team is kind of soft. There's no swagger at all in this team. Seems like they're hoping not to lose.— p-diddy
- You'd think Lurie would be getting tired of hiding and ducking the fans and media because his head coach and QB suck.— Kioto
- Yea, that's the answer. Putting in Foles a rookie QB, with little to no mobility, to thrown the ball 40 to 50 times with one of the best running backs in the NFL lining up in the same backfield behind a scrub Offensive Line.
At least that's a certain strategy for Sunday Morning touch leagues vying for the YMCA Championships.
So how does that help a team that gives up late 4th Quarter scores on their way to loosing games. Seems to me the problem is over compensating for Kurt Coleman, the liability at safety late in games. Also the last couple weeks the Eagles are getting nothing from their weak side linebacker.
— Dexter - " Reid vigorously disputed corner Nnamdi Asomugha's postgame contention that the Eagles changed their coverage scheme "
Is andy f'in kidding me?
He's saying the DB is unaware that they changed coverage? Either Andy is stupid, or he thinks the fans are stupid.— fmMD - Spot on. Excellent post. Wasn't Nnamdi the only one yesterday who did anything on defense. He almost shut out the best WR in football. He wouldn't know if his assignment changed? Who was covering CJ when he caught all those balls. That's right, DRC and Hughes. And another thing, why the hell is Hughes covering Calvin freakin Johnson? — alanpapa113
- I don't get it. Why is Nick Foles preseason performance being measured out to success in the regular season? What #1 defense did he face? You guys are all idiots if you think he's going to start in the regular season and not get blitzed every play. He'd get murdered back there. Stop with the Foles talk. He played well in the preseason against a bunch of practice squad defenses. You guys are the ones who would stop posting after someone buried Foles into the ground and he was done for the year. Stop being so dumb and actually say something intelligent.— alanpapa113
- Stop allowing the Philly Sports Writers feed you guys your opinions. These articles are as clueless as some of the comments. Why would anyone throw the ball against Detroit 40 plus times? Why would you feature the pass with a lead given you have Shady McCoy in your backfield?
What 6 year old came up with that Game Plan against Detroit?— Dexter - Whaa Whaa Whaa!!!!!!!!!! Hope you babies have enough tissues!— MRD
- @alanpapa113 you don't get it, he's 7" taller than Vick and delivers the ball on-time. With the right play calling, heavier reliance on the run and his physical size advantage, the ultimate result should be an upgrade. Meanwhile, I prefer to look at the future since the present sucks and the recent past is a merry go round of mediocrity. Sorry you don't get it. I'd rather struggle with an eye to the future than watch the merry go round go round.— bentlip
- He has no experience. You are acting like we are 0-6 right now. If this season was over, then I would say put him in there and watch him get Kevin Kolb'ed. I love the support for a guy who EXCELLED in preseason. Didn't Ryan Moats have that awesome preseason a few years ago. Where is he right now? He delivers the ball on-time. How do you know that for sure? Name one CB he beat in the preseason. Just one. I do agree with you on looking to the future. Let's look at the future when the season is over. If they are 3-7 after the next 4...put the kid in. Until then, you still have a season to play for. Don't be sorry I don't get it, just use your head and know the kid was a 3rd round pick, passed on by many teams, and beat up on a bunch of Triple A defenses. — alanpapa113
- Professor 1982 is completely correct.— Cazptain Philadelphia
- After watching the millionth news conferenece with the same lame excuse from this guy, why doesn't a reporter have the guts to ask him what is on everybodys mind but is afraid to ask. " Andy, aren't you getting tired of telling everybody, if it's ON ME, then why don't you consider resigning right now.?" If it was "on him", then he SHOULD RESIGN.— sackvicknow
- How does anyone lose to the Lions ?— BobSG
- And this article title is one of the many reasons why Reid will be fired at the end of this year....— TommyJ_in_Mburg
- i hope this team goes winless the rest of the season so indeed changes will be made.— pr0f3ss0r
- Does anyone remember rothlisberger winning the super bowl in his first year with Bettis and Hines Ward his main weapons? You can win with a rookie QB and I am sure Reid believes in this kid or he would not be #2. Give him a shot if it does not work we know where we are for the future if it does work we have a qb for the next decade. Does anyone believe we are going to the superbowl with Vick? Enough said.— zbeachigo
- Juan Castillo and Andy Reid = Tennesee Tuxedo and Chumly. http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/31879711— stumpy128
- Defense has been 3 times better then the offense. Look at andy, marty and vick first.— Sidewinder7
- Bottom line is the problem with this team is the coaching staff. It is clear and it was made even clearer yesterday. There is no reason to blame players. I am tired of people blaming players. I guarantee that if any of our players were to go to another team they would succeed and play to the expectations. Look at all the people that we have gotten over the years from other teams for our D, nnamdi:considered one of the top shutdown corners, DRC: probowl corner, one of the fastest and let me remind you when drc played with arizona and played against Calvin J he held him to only 35 yrd and 3 catches, Babin: succeeded on another team, cullen jenkins: big time in GB, Demeco Ryans: Great LB in houston a play maker. I could go on and on but least to say my point is that we have the players and they are great players its just our Defensive coaching and shemes are not making it possible for them to succeed. And when it comes to the offense the bottom line is that the play calling sucks. The eagles need a coaching shake up. Our players are fine its the coaches that the people need to be talking about. Until we get a new offensive coordinator who can call the right plays for Vick and our offense to succeed and until we get a qualified Defensive coordinator that can call the right plays and have the right schemes for our guys to attack the passer and create turnovers, then we arent going anywhere. Lurie needs to wake up and see that.— Eagles302
- The offensive line is not up to the challenge. With all due respect to the fact that all the players are professional, it appears clear that the talent is just not there. You could have Johnny Unitas at QB and Gale Sayers running the ball but if there is not competent blocking, you have nothing. A flashy run once in a while and a long pass that momentarily excites the fans but over the long haul, you are going to lose. Anyone who knows anything about football knows that the offensive line is the foundation of a successful offense. And with the injuries that are inherent with the professional game, you need a competent backup at each position. It seems that the Eagles either released or traded these men.
Vick is not the problem. The defensive line is not the problem. The flashy cornerbacks are not the problem. Andy Reid is not the problem. Ditto for JC.
The Eagles are dead in the water because their offensive line is just not up to the challenge. And you will never win in such a situation.— World - I wouldn't care if Foles were a walk-on, he possesses the physical traits of a prototypical NFL QB. He demonstrated some things in the pre-season and should in the wake of Vick's horrible turnover and productivity numbers be given a shot. The future with the present QB is a pipe-dream's chance of even making the playoffs. People who believe the past is the best indicator of the future when different persons and different skill sets are involved, don't evaluate realistically. The worst that can happen is you find out he's not the answer. If it happens as quickly as some predict that would be a worthwhile detour to take just to get that monkey off of Vick and Andy's back. If he turns out to be a serviceable starter with any chance of a future, you've moved on from the Vick era and if you're Andy you might have also saved your job.— bentlip
- "waiting for the summer rain"— Onlineps2beast
- Okay, I'm gonna let it fly. I'm kind of tired of the way that Philly has become excuse and explain-away capitol of the sports world. Look at the most successful franchises in baseball, football, basketball, and hockey. Look at our teams, look at our front offices, coaching staffs and look at our sports media. We are a nearly championship-free zone, a bastian of mediocrity. We have developed the art of excuse making and next-yearing to the most ridiculous reaches. Joe Girardi didn't hesitate to sit A-Rod or pinch-hit for him. Guys like Ibanez we let go in favour of Wigginton and Nix? We trot Howard out every day at the expense of getting some abs for younger players. Lead off hitter rules the dugout, manager lets him. It's all excuses and mirrors from everyone in this town but Collins. We have wonderful song and dance men for GMs, arrogant ones who think they are really smarter than everyone else and their unconventional wisdom will somehow trump what is right in front of their eyes. And we have field management that can't manage a clock, a bullpen, a bench or their own staffs. I would love to see ground zero for any of these franchises right now except the Sixers, I'll give them another year on this current course. I love DC.— bentlip
- Uh, #bentlip...a couple of good points, but overall I think it's the other way around. In short, it was Mike Schmidt who said "Philadelphia is the only place where you can experience the thrill of victory, and the agony of reading about it the next day." Trust me, arguing against constant negativity isn't making excuses, it's survival.
Love the sport's passion, just hate the direction that the passion goes to at times.
Remember, what a person (or people) puts out, most definitely comes back to them. ...Not to get too deep, but that's not a philosophy, just scientific facts. (look up 'Think & Grow Rich' as well as brain ether) - I've been an Eagles fan for 50 years and found myself not caring much who won or lost through the first six games. Thank God, yesterday's loss gave me my passion back. Go Eagles' opponents!! This team will never win a title with this bozo coaching the team.— iceman
- hot seat? this is no news.— Tyrone Biggums
- Les Bowen is a dope. Why doesn't he ask if Andy Kotite is on the hot seat?— ebola
- To all you people who want Vick removed as quarterback, put on your white gowns you racists, I think there is a Klan meeting real soon.— neddyflanders
- We are mediocre and average. Not exceptional in any way. NO FINALS FOR US........Giants are the class of the East....its burns me up to say it. The Falcons game will be out final opportunity to make a winning season— Aussie Fan
- The Eagles can't run the ball unless it's Vick running. They did not do enough in the off season to rebuild their offensive line and now it is mediocre at best. It looks like another year missing the playoffs. The Giants look to be the class of the NFC East.— MUADDIB
- hey bentlip, did you ever wonder why the only time ARod didnt choke was against the Phillies? Its just built in to this town, even Arod knew he couldnt lose to Philly so he had a natural confidence that only comes from opposing teams playing our teams. There is a little bit of blame in many areas on this Eagles team. The next guy is always the savior, until that person runs into the same problems and built in excuses.— peteike
- When will the fans realize that Andy can't coach after his 15 original plays. It doesn't matter if it is the end of the game or not. If the other team ties the score or goes ahead, Andy is unable to coach the team in a new direction. He is absolutly clueless as to how to counter the other team. That is why Andy can never get to the Super bowl. He doesn't have the ability to adjust to another teams changes. Don't look for the super bowl until andy Resigns— rduexpress
- For 50 some years i've been a "DIE HARD" IGGLES fan. After yesterday, I still love the IGGLES, but hate the taem and its coaches. We are so easy to scheme against. The opposing coaches know exactly what we will do in given situations. I had a chance to watch some other games yesterday after we choked all over ourselves and had a chance to see what good coches and teams do to win. Giants, Redskins, Greenbay. That's how football is supposed to be played in the NFL. Andy has lost the team. Juan has no clue and MM thinks that gadget plays and bombs will bring consistany to drives. It's pathetic. If they are so freaking smart, why did they take the ball in OT after winning the toss. They should realize that, with the new rules, the team that has the ball after the first posession has the advantage. The coaching staff is a joke. I've never been more embarrased to be an IGGLES fan after wathing us get beat by a team like the Lions. PATHETIC!! Come on JEFFY, grow a pair and do what;s right for the fans of this team. It's time to clean house.— CDRAUTZ
- FINALLY Reid will be gone after this season and we can be done with his nonsense.— ArtieLange
- Lot of good those color-coded charts do, eh?
Funny, I never see Belichick use one, or Coughlin, or their respective coordinators.— Bradley85 - The problem is the offense not the defense.— John Dealoni
- Should be VICK on the hot seat, not the defense!— chucksf
- I forgot that having Nick Foles under center would fix all of our offensive lines woes and the defensive stops from our secondary.— Nova
- Time for a change in philosophy. If that means changing coaches fine. Jeff L has got to be feeling this way. The stuff they are doing is not working. The Eagles need a change in approach from the type of plays called... Vick doesn't have the time or protection to run the slow developing plays they are calling he should have the ball out of his hands in 3 seconds but most plays he does not even have 3 seconds. The concept of smaller o line players does not work... the o line gets pushed around every week. they can't run and they can't pass because they can't block. Special teams are a mess. The scheme is terrible resulting in poor field position constantly. Time for some new faces and new ideas among the coaches.— jmb53
5 more losses and good by Andy and his coach's— vincedeg161- Brandon Hughes only showed up in the 4th quarter and overtime and coincidentally that's exactly when the Lion's offense took off! He was horrible. Who is better Hughes or Marsh and why were they brought in late in the game when we had been playing well up to that point (forgetting the fact that the D line had not sacks).— connorjr
- A long time supporter of Reid and I'm D.O.N.E....Marty is the biggest culprit! OBVIOUSLY Vick needs more, QB Draws, Quick Slants, Screen Passes and runs with 2 back sets. Why do the Eagles have a mobile QB, and a great screen pass and never use them!? Why do the Eagles have success with a two back set against the Giants and never use it again?!? Why don't the Eagles run quick slants if they must pass all the damn time!? Why can't the Eagles vary their run plays!? The offense is horrendous!! How is it that I can sit on my couch and predict every damn play!? First down pass, 2nd down run....If I can do it any D-cordinator in the league can. COACHES HAVE TO GO! PASS, PASS, PASS EQUALS GET FIRED ANDY!!!! TWO FINESSE TEAMS HAVE WON SB'S THE RAMS AND THE NINERS....EACH HAD A GOOD QB. GET A CLUE REID!!!!— John Dealoni
- Lack of a good running game for this game hurt them, poor blocking is the cause of that. They are inconsistent and play with no confidence, poor coaching causes that. Just plan old poor coaching. The owner is making money and that is all he cares about, it all runs down hill from there.— krautmef1
- There's no reason to continue the Castillo experiment, except possibly brazen arrogance and pride. The replacement Bowles is already here, just make it seem like an adjustment in position to save face but make the change now. This is what I would recommend to Reid if he wants to keep his job. This is only one of several major changes that are needed to improve the Eagles now versus after the team has tanked and the season is over.— Soaring Eagle
- dexter, here are five rookies playing this year and they are all doing very well. With the great receivers the Eagles have that can score from anywhere on the field we don't need or want a running quarterback to run for a first down. Foles is an Aaron Rodger Tom Brady type quarterback that goes back three steps and get rid of the ball to one of our excellent receivers. Why have great receivers if you don't use them? Give Foles one game and let's see what he can do. Make it hard. Let him play against Atlanta. We know Vick can't beat Atlants. What have we got to lose? Stop blaming the defense. They kept the Eagles in the gane with their great second half play. The offense left them on the field too lomg. Even the grteat defensives break down if they are on the field too long.— mario1239
- Could Vick play better? Yes. Do I blame him for the Eagles' losses? No. Is he too short to play QB? Possibly. The third down play on the Eagles' last possession in regulation was telling. Maclin was wide open on another crossing route, but Vick's pass was batted down by Suh. If Vick is 3-4 inches taller, that probably doesn't happen. If that pass is completed, the Eagles are 4-2 today. This team is probably headed for an 8-8 finish, but I like their chances against Atlanta. No Super Bowl any time soon.— TripleOption
- @peteike: You're right about A-Rod! I've been a phan for over 50yrs and I understand that phenomenon of which you speak. It's exactly what I was talking about, WC Fields too!— bentlip
- Reid is right.... The Eagles are a good team. Except for Vick, they have good players. It's the coaching that sucks. Head, O, D & Special teams.— greenguy
- Eagles are making news around the country as the STUPIDIST team in the NFL! Get ready...ATL is going kick your A**!— MRD
- gotta love this vile and venom after a horrendous eagle loss. dont know why you ignorant fans get all riled up...this team will never win a title.— anti-phil
- More talent than any team in the NFL.....yet barely made it to halftime with 7 points....Change needed in Philly now!!! Let's salvage our season!!!
— Big Jeff - who says nick foles wont be of any help.refer to mcnabb going down.enter jeff garcia,thus andy reid strayed off his pass happy offense and goes to a very reliable running back.the eagles went on a winning streak after that loss to peyton manning and indy and ran the table right to the playoffs.if nothing else he finally established a running game then.the missing to links to 3 links to this offense is #1 nick foles,#2 lesean mccoy and #3to establish a running game.believe it or not shady is the only player right now cabable of playing at an upper level now to this pathetic offensive line.i think the coaching staff is scared to let him prove it.he says he can handle the workload,well lets find out if hes for real.hes the real key for the teams success from here on out.if they dont trust him that much,then let him go to a team where he can shatter nfl records the rest of his career because hes more than capable of that!!!!!!!!— arkdad212
- Stop over reacting all you cry babies. We lost on the last drive in Pittsburgh to a team coming off a bye and then to a desperate Lions team in overtime also coming off a buy. The past 2 Super Bowl champions went through bad stretches during the regular season, and got hot late. The fact of the matter is we are 3-3 going into a bye and have every bit of a shot at it all this year as anyone else, atleast were not Baltimore or Housten losing key pieces for the year!— DBreeze
- Actually, it would be pretty easy to take away play calling from both Castillo and Mornhinweg without announcing it; just privately discuss with the parties what he's going to do moving forward, let Juan and Marty continue to develop part of the game plans, let Reid make the offensive calls and Todd Bowles make the defensive calls and nobody would be the wiser. Of course, a guy like Nnamdi would probably spill the beans in a moment of candor, but at least Andy would give himself the best chance he could to NOT get fired at the end of the season.— drbob1
- Andy needs to do the right thing ! Buh-bye. Brigham Young needs a new asst line coach and anti-caffeine advisor .— NewMick314
- Reid is a mad scientist with flawed philosophies and is unable to make adjustments during games. It's been this way for 14 years, and it will never change. Jim Johnson and a young McNabb helped elevate the team to championship caliber, but Reid's stubbornness in personnel and game planning prevented them from going all the way. Johnson is gone and Vick is well past his prime, which was never as good as McNabb's prime. Andy needs to go. Everyone in Philly knows that with the exception of the tea-sipping pansie from Boston with weird haircut.— phink
- 124 comments. we're getting close to the previous post of 200 comments will bring the advertizers in droves. Foles is not the answer in my estimation, not right now. Preseason is one thing, regular season is a little different. a bit quicker and a little bit harder hitting. the kid has talent, no question but to put him in with a lack of an offensive line and the lack of a well thought out game plan by an above average OC is pure suicide for a rookie. I have stated many times that Michael is not an NFL quarterback, he got by in Atl. with mainly his legs, not his qb prowess. But everyone here in the "posts" must admit that Vick plays hard. The guy keeps getting pounded and he keeps getting up. No question that he puts out 110% of himself out on the field. An NFL QB, no ... a guy with heart, yes! Let's give him credit for the effort he puts out. We should all work that hard in life. aside from all that, need new HC, new OC, new DC, new attitude and a better selection of talent. In jacksonville I saw our head coach out coached by the pats in the SB. previous to that, I saw our Head Coach out coached by tampa bay. Tampa Bay people !!! can you imagine ? and we were out coached by Carolina. both teams went on to SB. Out coached !!!! Time for a change and the change starts with empty seats at the Linc.
Give us a poduct that wins, that has class and we'll fill the seats. Give us less and you can play to an audience of wives and friends. You want Hope & Change ??? Stay away from the Linc and you'll get Change. continue to keep filling the stadium and all you'll have is Hope and Monday sad posts on philly.com— edseagles - Two words for head coach.... Jon Gruden..... (Wishful thinking)— PHILLYnative00
- I say bench vick for the following reasons.
Even though he may win more games than foles this year he definetly will never win us a superbowl.So why continue to waste the other offensive talent that has a limited shelf life, the sooner we get foles in there the better. Vick seems to have regressed to almost rookie like skills at times, I mean dont get me wrong he does show flashes but he is just way too hot and cold,at times he holds the ball too long and often makes bad decisions and usually telegraphs where he is going to go with the ball. All that being said I do recognize the he is oftem under fire but not allways. my guess is that foles will be able to work within the offense and get rid of and deliver the ball where it should be for a good amount of plays. (at least enough to give us a chance in most games)— pheagles12 - VICK IS AWFUL, BUT BEHIND THIS EXCUSE FOR AN OFFENSIVE LINE, AARON RODGERS WOULD STINK TOO.— DONDEN31
- Reid looks like and his team plays like, the Pillsbury dough boys.— sammydelphia
- To summarize:
1. The offensive line is really bad. Injuries to Jason Peters and Kelce along with the poor talent evaluation of Bell and Watkins have made this line 1 of the reasons that the offense has sputtered because Vick is getting beaten up on practically every pass play and Shady is just not getting blocks.
2. 2. The offense does have very good skill players in Maclin, Jackson, McCoy,and Celek(I know he had a bad game against the Lions but he generally is a reliable tight end). Vick can be explosive when he has time to pass but he is too erratic.
3. The offensive play calling has been bad during the entire Reid era because it doesn't take into account the strengths and weaknesses of the offensive line or the skill players. Yesterdayfor example, the Eagles could not run to the outside. No attempt was made to either change the running scheme or "get the players into position so they could perform beter."
4. Unlike the offensive line, the defensive line theoretically has good players who are not performing. Whose fault is that? I am puzzled as to why the Eagles don't try to incorporate a bl;itz scheme .
5. The eagles draft picks have generally been bad and until a better taloent evvaluator takes over, the eagles will never win the Super Bowl.— Drumgoole - This is getting old. Constant underachieving and excuses.— ej610
- I just dont understand WHY Castillo is still the D co-ordinator?? It didn't work last year - in a year that is "make or break" for Reid's staff and Reid himself- why hitch your wagon to this albatross??? So much talent on both sides of the ball, such a desperate, loyal and rabid fan base...WHY does Juan still have a job? I know plenty of folks who work hard, who are "good people" and still lose their jobs because they simply aren't getting it done. WHY does Juan continue to get a break? The monster free agent CB we signed last year all but said he was ineffective - why keep him???! This is a joke.— mebphila
- Andy is stale He's gotta go. Call Cower or Grudem immediately!— Eric the K
- Like that photo of Andy and Juan walking. Need Marty in there walking to make it complete. Reminds me of the old Genesis video to the song "I Can't Dance." Just change the words to "I Can't Coach."— watsonmr
- What a bunch of crybabies. The team loses, is 3-3 and one game out of first place, and people are taking off their Eagles license-plate frames and threatening never to watch the team again! Oh, how will the team ever recover! Let me guess: They will muddle through just as they have always done, with or without you fair-weather "fans." Watch, don't watch, whatever. We true fans, who were watching when the Eagles REALLY sucked (remember the Ray Rhodes, or Marion Campbell, or Joe Kuharich teams?) could not care less.— JBirks
- " It pains me to say this, but i hope we don't win the superbowl this yr..."
I hope the sun comes up in the east, if we are stating the obvious
— 2ndNlong - What Billion dollar company or corporation hires a non-experienced PERSON- WC-who never held that JOB before ---to hold down a very critical DC POSITION- IN A VERY COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT -the likely hood of that happening is remote to nonexistent--- EXCEPT FOR OUR EAGLES--and they have the gull to not only to defend THAT HIRE BUT ALSO TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE A RATIONALE DECISION!!!---
— carmen2 - All I can say after watching our defensive line chase three weeks worth of QB's around and not sacking one of the them, is that they are a truly worthless bunch. Also, what the hell is wrong with the Offensive Line? Do they have a death wish for Michael Vick. Look at the stats for the last three games and the number of tremendous hits, knock-downs and sacks. Philly is lucky he still has his head. Can't Juan Castillo ever do his job in the 4th quarter? Can't Reid and Marty call a sensible game with pass/run balance or will we always be the pass-happy, go nowhere EAGLES?— hbphillyfan
- step 1 should fire Casteroil as def cord. step 2 trade Babin or Cole and go with Curry,Fox,Graham. can't play Foles cause he will get killed behine this sad off line. Mr Laurie do you see the same things the fans are seeing .. if yes please make the needed changes! This team sb 0 & 6 or 1 & 5. I see a 6 & 10 season at best!— bill poore
- why do you make Vick a pocket qb when he is not!!!— bill poore
- The Eagles have changed QB's, Coordinators, Players, and even Presidents, and nothing has really changed. The only constant has been Reid. I guess he is the one who really needs changing!— Colonel Klink
- The absurdity of Andy now is just inane. Fire Juan and if you do not make the PO's yourself and Vick. This crowd is never going to win a Super. We all know it. Jeff should finally figure it out. Andy is not a bad coach but he has gotten stale here and that is enough. But, Juan goes as soon as possible. They D stinks in the 4th Q. and that is probably schemes and personnel that are not matched for 60 min. of football.— Koons
- Big Red is no dummy, he's sitting in his office right now debating if he should pull MV7 during the bye week. There would be very few people in Eagles Nation that wouldn't support the move. We saw Mike struggle in preseason and Foles come in behind the same offense and make plays. No matter what excuses are made about preseason, that is an apples to apples comparison. I've heard many mention already that Vick's play is demoralizing the whole team and I believe that.— MidGreen
- Andy ... Juan was an offense of line coach. You made him your DC without any real NFL exp. on the defensive side. Make the right move. Juan has to be let go. It's sad but so is the defense again. Make the right call - cause this has been a bad descision from the beginning. Now there is still time to savage this season if you were serious about winning.— neozon
- Andy will ot make this change, because it will prove his initial foolishness. I had always been of the mindset that the Eagles fanbase was just being overly critical of Reid, until now. I have finally become insulted with the "I have to do a better job" line. In 14 or so years, and he still saying he has to do bettr? Geez, I give my son about 2 weeks to correct mistakes.— hawaiiphillyfan
- Where is my Juan is gone post?— Getinline
- Oy vey. Well, I guess this is some juicy gossip for the rest of the bye week.
...oh, Vick will be the starter against the Falcons in case anybody is wondering.
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