The logic of only one go-to guy
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The logic of only one go-to guy
This is an entirely different post than the one necessary after last night's 45-point disaster at the Chicago Bulls. Last night, you couldn't really even say much because the 51-point deficit said a whole lot, more than anything anyone could add. But tonight, there's one thing in particular we'll attempt to tackle after the 76ers' 84-80 loss to the Boston Celtics, a game in which they led 74-70 with 4 minutes, 49 seconds remaining. By no means are we pointing this out as some kind of massive lead the Sixers allowed to evaporate, but rather as an indication that the Sixers were very much in position to win this game.
They just didn't. And, as is usual against good teams, the problem came when the possessions became more and more important in the game's final minutes. Really, the final three possessions. Now, since it was crunch time on deadline as well as crunch time in the game, and because Boston's play-by-play omits missed shots, we're going to draw the sequences from memory. It seems the only successful possession came with 1:19 left in the game when Iguodala hit Elton Brand for a little mid-range jumper that cut the Celtics' lead to 82-80. Those were the Sixers' final points of the game. What followed was a botched possession with about 50 seconds left, a turnover I believe, and then the final offensive possession that was designed around Andre Iguodala. Jrue Holiday dribbled the ball at the top of the key and waited for Iguodala to get decent position around the right elbow. Holiday got Iguodala the ball, led him towards the hoop, and Iguodala missed some sort of attempt at the rim. It's listed as a block by Kevin Garnett. Iguodala seemed to think he was fouled. After the game, Iguodala wouldn't really dive into the no-call, saying it was pointless to worry about whether or not he was fouled because the game was over. A few seconds later, Ray Allen was fouled and made two free throws for the final margin.
So, onto the one particular item we wanted to discuss: this repeated final possession scenario. We'll try to wrap some logic around what's happening with the Sixers. Or rather, use some logic to call into question the repeated calls at the end of games.
OK, here goes.
Most Sixers' fans would agree that more times than not, the Sixers go to Iguodala at the end of games. There are exceptions, but it's safe to say that about 8 times out of 10 the ball goes to Iguodala if there's a set play drawn up in the preceding timeout. It just doesn't make sense. Consider this: After tonight's game, Collins was talking about how his team just doesn't have that type of guy that can give you 25 points every night. We've heard that before. We all agree with that. Collins said this team is best when it gets seven guys scoring in double figures. Maybe seven guys is a stretch, but the point is taken: The Sixers are best when spreading the ball around and everyone is involved and contributing.
Then why, at the end of games, is it always given to the same player?
If this team doesn't have a guy capable of scoring 25 points a night, then it also doesn't have a guy that deserves the ball every time in end-of-game possessions. Iguodala should certainly get the ball sometimes in these situations. Against the Chicago Bulls, he was in a rhythm. If that game hadn't be a disaster, it would have made sense to give Iguodala the ball in an important possession. But there's this sense that Iguodala should get the ball by default, and it continually haunts this team at the end of games. It defies logic, really, and it's reached a point where it should frustrate fans of this team. (Or rather it's well past that point?)
This topic was somewhat broached after tonight's game. First, Collins said that sometimes what happens is that Iguodala gets put in a bad position at the end of a possession or at the end of a shot clock because of a breakdown somewhere else. And that's certainly the case on some occasions. And Iguodala himself said that teams' defensive schemes are built to keep him out of the paint. And that's also true. He's doing the best he can with what he's being given, absolutely. The more important question is why keep going back to a guy -- we're talking dozens and dozens of times -- who is being forced into a low-percentage shot and you can gather from watching the previous 47 minutes of the game that he's probably going to be forced into that shot?
It feels like the Sixers are actually sacrificing games in the name of proving that Iguodala deserves the ball on the final possession.
Did I just write 800 words on this topic? I really should get a life.
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langx we you think post up you think shaq.. when i think post up i think carmelo..— combocancer1975
Great article. I've been saying this for the past few years. Ever since Iguodala became the default #1 option by signing his new contract. Everyone seems to know he's not a #1 option except for himself. Please just trade him already. Not only is he losing games for us, he's taking Evan Turner's valuable minutes.— younggunna917- flock: if that was his intention, then all those years in the league have failed to teach him that refs DO NOT call fouls at the end of games, particularly for teams on the road. The only official who was willing to blow the whistle in those cases, especially for teams on the road, was the late, great Earl Strom.— chuckw
- Did anyone else get the feeling that Iguodala drove the lane on that last attempt, expecting to get fouled and not taking it aggressively, expecting to make the shot? That difference in mindset was the difference in either making the basket/getting the call or a futile and weak attempt at a drive to the basket.— Flock
- Right now the Sixers are like a Major League Baseball team without a dependable closer; tight games often lost in the 9th inning, tight games often lost in the fourth quarter. What has killed this club is lack of salary cap room; think Amare Stoudemire with this team instead of with the Knicks. Without a closer, teams go into the 9th inning playing not to lose, but knowing they are going to lose. The Sixers, particularly on the road, go into the 4th quarter trying not to lose, knowing in their gut they are going to lose. Until a closer emerges or is brought on board, the Sixers will be a non-factor.— chuckw
Trade Iggy for Melo. This would provide a spark to the fan base and bring an energy to the Wells Fargo Center. Maybe, he will feel the energy just like Cliff Lee and sign an extension here. I believe this team does have talent they just need that 1 true superstar. If Melo does not resign here, at least the Sixers get rid of Iggy's contract.- This exact frustration had me bonkers last night when I flipped on the end of the game last night. The play by Iggy was exactly what everyone in the building was expecting and even he didn't looked very surprised as he ran directly into defender with that weak "uh-oh this isn't going to work out" second step as srvdove mentioned in an earlier comment. It hardly even looked like a shot he just pulled the ball up on that weak step and kind of folded into the defense. There wasn't a foul (certainly not one you're going to get called on the road with the game on the line) and it cemented a feeling of spinning wheels and non-belief for the final seconds. I remember a similar predictability in final plays developing around Barkley's early years where he would be taking the shot no matter what and sometimes he'd have to launch a three just to get a shot off (not exactly where I wanted my final shot with him but he was such a gamer he still pulled it off often). It wasn't until Hersey Hawkins provided him with a quick and deadly second option for those plays that couldn't go his way that they started to win those close ones more consistently (too bad no matter what they did they never had a shot at getting past the Bulls come playoffs). Iggy is certainly nowhere near Barkley's level as either a player or a gamer so for him to be plastered into this role is ridiculous.— Twocents
- The turnover you speak of with 50 seconds left was on Igoudala too - he tripped while dribbling into traffic in the lane & lost control of the ball. As far as the rest of your post, you read my mind. I was just wondering last night why every single coach we've had over the recent years insists on giving Igoudala the ball down the stretch. He will either wind up taking a falling away, contested shot, or he'll do one of those out of control drives the the rim hoping the refs will bail him out. It didn't even look like he tried to get the ball in the net on that final play. No one touched his arms, but he flailed & just tossed the ball up. If this team wants to succeed, they need to look at the billups era detroit squads & learn how to operate within a system, and trust the system to get you good shots - especially with the game on the line.— duder
- langx- Doug Collins job doesn't revolve around bringing turner along. Don't get me wrong that's part of it but his main job like every other coach is to win as many games as possible. Meeks is the starter b/c he's still the best 3 point threat we have and creats a ton of space for guys like iggy, thad and holiday to get to the lane. it can't just be about making a rookie who can't shoot, and for some rediculous reason can't get open and score buckets unless it starts with him dribbling the ball at the top of the key. even when he plays he never takes the opportunities that are given to him. stop looking to pass and make yourself a scoring threat rookie! if he was half as aggressive offensively as he was defensively he'd be your starter and perhaps the guy taking the last shot that we're desperately looking for. but i agree with kate 100%- we should just keep running our offense instead of set plays for bricks by iggy. how bout some pick and pops w/holiday and meeks or back door screens with iggy or thadius young who oh btw we haven't heard from in the last 5 games either.— 76ers in 2076
Comment removed.- sorry srvdove, my comment was meant for bdouble.— Lesj
- To srvdove, Yo! dont blame Iggy for the money he gets. He should have never been given that contract, credit his agent, and the guy that is in New Jersey now. Billy King. Iggy can not put this team on his back , he's not that guy.— Lesj
- Kate. If you remember the last Boston game, everyone expected Pierce to get the ball on the last possession and they dropped it to Garnett rolling to the basket. We had two guys on Pierce and Holiday got stuck on Garnett.— fuller11
- What happen to Jody meeks?— rayzoe
- Comment removed.
- What? Collins' only job is developing a high draw in the draft? If you want to put all your eggs in the Turner basket, I think you have the wrong basket.
Collins job is to coach the team.— talknpraktis - Eh. Brand fouling out hurt as he would be the other option. The key plays down the stretch were: Williams brick of a 3 for no reason, Andre tripping over himself, Andre not converting or getting the call on a drive. Meanwhile the Celtics made clutch shots and they rarely miss free throws (excluding Shaq). In the last 5 minutes we struggled to get good looks and wasted a lot of the shot clock dribbling around the 3 point line.— 7mel11
- Basically, the Celts amped up the defense effectively smothering Sixer attempts at offense. Hence what looked like
"wasted" time dribbling. We need two legitimate outside threats to open things up under those conditions. Collins appeared to try that with Lou and Meeks, but didn't work.
BTW, Andre didn't trip over himself. He stepped on Pierce's foot.— talknpraktis - i like the ball in iguodala's hands. IN THE POST!! he can facilitate from the post. he can hit the 15ft bunny also.. ITS COLLINS FAULT NOT PUTTING DRE IN THAT POSITION.. Collins has to call the play.. JRUE AT 20 SEEMS TOO DUMB TO ACKNOWLEDGE dre's dominance in the post and tries to go 1 on 5 or jack up a off the bounce j. CALL THE PLAY COLLINS!! iguodala needs to DEMAND THE BALL! IN THE POST!— combocancer1975
- Enough with the I love you Kate stuff everyday it's the same thing I think she get's the message by now. She is doing her job that's what she gets paid to do. If you want a date contact here on facebook!— rayzoe
- Kate, I've been following the Sixers for over 30 years. You are the best Philadelphia sportswriter ever. If you ever have any doubt, remember your older colleagues were demanding the Eagles draft Ricky Williams.— dervin
At some point the coach must bear the responsibility for these late game meltdowns. To continually put the ball into Iggy's hands in the waning minutes shows either a misunderstanding of your team's capabilities or a lack of creative thinking. This is the same coach who couldn't figure out how to get the Jordan led Bulls to reach their potential. Nice guy but only an average coach.— OldCoach- All these years of being substandard and we still haven't drafted, traded for or signed a ready for prime time player. We havent had a real player since AI who we picked up in 1996 that's 14 years of since we had a superstar on the sixers, prior to AI we had Barkley and it took 12 years to get Iverson. This team is well over due to landing a player or players that can down right dominate.— rayzoe
- Another DNPCD for Turner. Things are not looking too good for the #2 pick. Some players have 'it' and some don't. ET's looking like he's in the don't have 'it' category. — OldCoach
Everything Ms. Fagan wrote above is true, and the way she goes right after a coaching error by a well respected Collins, and does it without animas, is remarkable. But I think 'scmona' is on to something. TooManyDala is good at slashing into open space. He can not create open space on his own. This is the main reason why he takes so many ugly jumpers: if his defender sets down and waits for TooManyDala to move, TooMany will feel his limitations and take the jumper. Collins is no fool. He must know this. So there is something else political, something other than pure basketball tactics, that is effecting the decision to repeatedly go to TooManyDala late in games. Don't know how you find this out, but finding it out would be quite the coup.— Nuutron
A comment on Iggy, it does seem that he often has a first step where I think he can take another hard dribble and get his shoulder ahead of his defender, but he doesn't take it for some reason...is it just me? Also, could lack of open shots and ball movement be from not getting Brand established on the post (high elbow area) early in the game?— srvdove- Great post....it looks like the Sixers offense is not moving the ball enough in general and is getting caught taking tough shots and guys trying to break down a defender one on one way too often. Maybe a result of opposing teams knowing more what the Sixers are trying to do in half court? But the ball has got to move more I think, if it isn't happening in the course of the game, it isn't going to happen in the final minute. Also, our players could have been distracted by Heinsohn's constant whining...— srvdove
- IGGY MUST GO!!!!!! all that money he get and cant put the team on his back when it counts!— bdouble
I think the Sixers and Doug Collins have taken the excessive (more than 10) bricking clankers away from Iggy for the most part, but I also think they've been trying to appease him with the 'best player' praise and torturous end-of-game calls for him. A trade has to be in the big plan....and I believe in Santa too :)— scmona- You just knew that Boston was going to pull this out. It started with the Paul Pierce steal that led to a vicious dunk. It isn't easy playing at TD Garden and you could just feel the Sixers tighten up. They made some baskets when I thought they wouldn't, but it was the typical bumbled play after another in the final stretch. This has been a patter we have seen going back since Andre Miller was here. We would always say why not have the ball in Miller's hands down the stretch, but for some reason it was always in Iguodala's. For this team, Jrue Holliday showed some poise last night knocking down a key shot with a little over 2 minutes to go. Why not let Jrue create in these situations. Brand was having a huge game and I honestly feel if he had been in the game on that last possession that he might have ended up with an open look, but not to be.— Mattb
Once again, Kate The Gawd writes another amazing article. I agree with every single thing you said. Iggy should be looking to force more contact when he drives to the paint, especially when he seems to get there with ease. Shooting jump shots is clearly not his bright spot, but the real thing that kills me is, HE KEEPS TAKING THEM! It kills me because he has the ability to be a great all around player, but he never commits himself to being better than he already is. It's just the saddest thing, as a die-hard Sixers fan, to witness.- Hi Kate, Someday you'll get a life. Meanwhile, know that a lot of us really enjoy the insight you provide. Thanks!— talknpraktis
- Kate: bravo! Welcome to the club; many of us have echoed this point for years. One could argue that teams do not need to go to one player at the end of games, except an unstoppable superstar, but run a play for any one of several players, particularly if those guys are shooting well when they get the ball in the right position. Jimmy Lynam, making excuses for Iguodala, blamed Young and Battie at the end for crashing the boards on Iguodala's futile drive and thus not leaving enough spacing and allowing their defenders to close on Iguodala, without leaving themselves open for a pass, although whether he would have passed them the ball had they spaced properly is questionable. Of course, as many of us have also seen, had Iguodala been fouled on that last play, he would have missed the foul shots. Brand, of course, had fouled out, although on a number of occasions before then, they should have run plays for him, as he was hitting that 12-footer from the left angle. In those last minutes, Iguodala had missed a wild jumper, lost the ball in the lane when he slipped, and missed the last shot. Earlier, he missed a wild three while Brand was screaming for the ball at the top of the key. Was anyone else open at all? Are all the Sixer's players afraid to take that last shot or shots? I have argued that a major problem for Collins is the lack of a veteran point guard, an Andre Miller, who can either score himself late in games (as he did a number of times when with the Sixers) or get the ball to a player in a position to score. The Sixers seem to devalue the importance of a quality passing (as well as scoring) point guard. Isolation plays at the end of games are infuriating, often taking a team out of its natural offensive flow and sets. Nonetheless, the Sixers need onr or more go-to guys they can trust and a point guard able to either score or facilitate.— chuckw
John Mitchell is in his second year covering the 76ers for the Inquirer after joining the paper in November 2011. He covered the Washington Wizards for the Washington Times from 1998 to 2008. He's also worked at the Philadelphia Tribune, the Wilmington News Journal, Courier-Post, Trenton Times and Elmira Star-Gazette.Born and raised in West Philadelphia - not too far from Will Smith - he graduated from Overbrook High School the same year the 76ers won their last championship. He's a proud graduate of Howard University and the proud father of two sons, Jared and Jordan.
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