Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 11:31 PM | 13 comments |
 
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It happened again: The 76ers looked better without Elton Brand on the court. But this time, the injury to Brand looks like it might keep him out of lineup for a significant amount of time. With 7 minutes, 23 second left in the third quarter, Brand took a hit from Bucks forward Luc Mbah a Moute, both went to the floor. Brand popped up quickly, as if nothing was wrong. He immediately walked off the floor, clutching his right shoulder. The word from the Sixers is that Brand dislocated his right shoulder. He was not available after the game as he was off-site getting an MRI to determine the damage.

His teammates sitting on the bench said Brand's shoulder was out-of-joint as he walked past.

When Brand left, he had four points and six rebounds. The Sixers trailed by seven points. Eventually, the Sixers (11-14) defeated the Milwaukee Bucks (11-16), 93-88. It was the second game since Sixers President and General Manager Ed Stefanski fired coach Maurice Cheeks and replaced him with Tony DiLeo. DiLeo is now 2-0, as the Sixers defeated the Washington Wizards in his debut.

Before last night's game, DiLeo was asked if he thought fans should expected a change in play within a few games. DiLeo said, "A major complete difference in how we play in three games? I don't think so." And, through two-and-a-half quarters, DiLeo was right. There were slight improvements: a good-looking trap in the backcourt, a possession with solid ball movement, better spacing for Brand down low. But the results were familiar: Trailing a not-very-good basketball team by double-digits on their home floor.

(Let's be clear, Brand is a very good basketball player. I don't, at all, believe he shouldn't be on the court when he's healthy. He plays hard. He scores points and grabs rebounds. But we have to discuss if the Sixers -- given the rest of their roster -- can play more effectively without him on the court. It's my belief that we're seeing these results without Brand because they had 82 games last season with the old roster, and only 22 (Brand missed two games with that strained hamstring ... and yes I'm aware this a parenthetical clause within parenthesis) with Brand. Obviously, they can easily revert to the style that worked for them last season. But here's the main thing: Yes, they made the playoffs with that style, but could they ever be more than that with just those pieces? What they have now, perhaps, when they can finally have both -- fast break and a halfcourt threat -- is a playoff team that can go past the first round. This is all just speculation, but these are the questions that need to be pondered. Yesterday in practice Brand had a great quote when asked why the Sixers might have messed with the chemistry of a playoff team. He said, "It's not as if they won the championship last season." That's true. But then one wonders if the cure can only be more time, more games, more practices with Brand and the rest of the roster. And if that was the case, why was Cheeks fired? When it's just going to take more time, more games for the next coach? I digress ...)

But all we have to look at is tonight. The Sixers went from down 10 to a five-point win. How did they do it? By playing like they played last season. Reggie Evans hunted down rebounds. Lou Williams (25 points) sliced to the rim, made outside shots, and just generally carried the fourth-quarter scoring. Andre Miller was his steady self. Thaddeus Young collected the scraps for 10 points and four rebounds. Rookie Marreese Speights had 12 points and a number of dunks off rebounds. And, while I know I'll get the standard "Trade Iguodala, He's Overpaid" comments, Iguodala still had seven assists and six rebounds. Yes, he shot 2 for 14. Or, as someone pointed out to me, he made all but 12 of the shots he took. Doesn't matter. He was on the court when the Sixers got their win on.

Let the discussion begin ...

--Kate

Posted by Kate Fagan @ 11:31 PM  Permalink | 13 comments
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:21 AM, 12/18/2008
    Kate - I agree about Iguodala. Even when he is shooting poorly he is still making things happen for the other players. He is ALWAYS looking for an open teammate. Besides Andre Miller (last year's version at least) I can't say that about the rest of the team. I'm very optimistic about the future for Lou, Thad, and Speights, but right now they only have eyes for the basket. Did you see that 2 on 1 fast break with Miller and Thad in the second half? If Thad made a quick pass back to Miller it was an uncontested lay-up, but instead he put his head down and went right for the basket and got fouled (and missed both foul shots). I really hope Tony D is going to stress better ball movement with these kids. If they get better at that they can be pretty tough (even without Brand).
    LeChance
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:50 AM, 12/18/2008
    What worries me most about this fastbreak style with or without Elton Brand, is the fact that every NBA Champion since God knows when, has won with a roster led by at least 2 superstar caliber players. The Sixers do need a healthy Elton Brand to put up 20 and 10, and another All-Star caliber scorer. Unfortunately the Sixers have banked on Iggy being that second guy, and while he does so many good things on the court, it doesn't look like he'll be able to score consistantly.
    t.j-101
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:52 AM, 12/18/2008
    Very nice analysis, Kate. At this point (when healthy), Brand is not someone who can reliably score on isolation post-ups (they really need to stop trying that), but he has value as someone who can consistently hit the 15-foot jumper and score on putbacks. If they stop making him the focal point of the offense and allow him to be the recipient of kick-outs off dribble penetration, I think he can be a solid contributor. As for Iguodala, he had his worst shooting game in a while (no shots made outside 1 foot), but I saw good defense (Jefferson only had 11 and maybe half of those when Iguodala was guarding him), excellent passing (including a penetrate and kick to Thad for a key 3 in the 4th), and some important work on the defensive boards (at least 2 late in the game where he prevented Bucks put-backs). Of course, it probably didn't help his shooting that the crowd started booing him on his 3rd shot and booed louder with every miss (this was noticeable even on TV). Wow, who knew that Iguodala would become the Jose Mesa of the Sixers. It was once said of the Eagles and now applies to the Sixers: the Sixers are the only team in the NBA that have to start off games well to take their own crowd out of it. By the way, one of the "pure shooters" all the Iguodala haters would love to trade him for, Michael Redd, went 2 for 13. How many Sixer fans would make that trade in a heartbeat, even though Redd is 4 years older and makes even more money than Iguodala? All I have to say is: be careful what you wish for, because you might get it, and it won't be what you think.
    Statman
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:57 AM, 12/18/2008
    Ugh, no Brand for a while, just when we really wanted to see if some different looks were getting some better results. It is going to take patience to work him back in again if the sixers are winning some games in the meantime. Great game for Lou and Speights. I love that Speights is not afraid to shoot. I do agree with LeChance that they look at the basket exclusively right now. And I thought the same on the play where Thad could have made it an easy play for Miller. I did like that Tony stuck with the guys who were getting it done in the 4th. So what is the starting lineup now? Does Thad/Speights start for Brand? Does Lou play more of the 2 and concentrate on scoring? Could Lou start at 2? Could he guard Redd for example?
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:10 AM, 12/18/2008
    (Great analysis Statman, agree with you completely). Parens for you Kate!
    JBP
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:44 AM, 12/18/2008
    The question for me is: Would Josh Smith have been a better fit for the team? I know we might not have gotten him, but at this point, I wonder if we'd have been alright either way. Purely a hypothetical question b/c there's no way to get Smith now, but still.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:07 AM, 12/18/2008
    Does anyone remember Biily Cunningham's methods of substitution, especially when a player misses several games? Saying miller, green, AI, brand and sam are staters and lou, young and evens/sheights super subs, he would start radcliff for brand giving him 8 to 12 minutes. the balance of brands 24-32 minutes would go to sam, young and evans/sheights. Minutes would depend on team macth ups. This way each player from the start of the season know what his role was and would always be. Of course Billy was smart enough to have several assistants he trusted to tell him how to do it! I believe Cheeks should have done the same. I believe Tony D. might do simularly, although in brands case it make sence to start evans and then expand the others. ps - get off AI's back!
    russ4philly
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:17 AM, 12/18/2008
    Posted by russ4philly 09:07 AM, 12/18/2008 (after editing) Does anyone remember Billy Cunningham's methods of substitution, especially when a player misses several games? Saying miller, green, AI, brand and sam are starters and lou, young and evens/sheights super subs, he would start radcliff for brand giving him 8 to 12 minutes. the balance of brands 24-32 minutes would go to sam, young and evans/sheights. Minutes would depend on team match ups. This way each player from the start of the season knows what his role was and would always be. Of course Billy was smart enough to have several assistants he trusted to tell him how to do it! I believe Cheeks should have done the same. I believe Tony D. might do similarly, although in brands case it makes sense to start evans and then expand the others. ps - get off AI's back!
    russ4philly
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:56 AM, 12/18/2008
    kate: good use of (...) and some interesting points. beating the wizards and bucks is commendable given how we had been playing and losing. in the long run, i don't think the team is better off w/o brand and his injury will just further delay the integration process under dileo. maybe i'll be wrong here but it's highly unlikely the team will be sustainably better in the long run w/o brand. as for iguodala, his shots weren't falling but he provides other assets that statman and you list and his shot selection wasn't bad last night compared to other games. williams played well and displayed why we extended him but iverson light will not take this team far as the lead player over the course of the season or against the elite teams. he's a good complimentary player. and excellent observation by lechance: williams, young, etc. make it too difficult on themselves and don't reward other players. hopefully dileo will instill some basic concepts on the 2-1, 3-2 breaks.
    127sixer59
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:59 AM, 12/18/2008
    Glad to see that deep sixer wasn't completely taken over by the boo crew. Nice points all around. Not to draw too much from a bucks game, but perimeter defense looked a little tighter. Reggie's comments in Jasner's article about DiLeo being a good x's and o's guy and putting them in the rights spots were interesting. It was good to see him out there refusing to be blocked out and doing the human wrecking ball thing too (and did he actually hit a little hook shot off one of those boards? me oh my...) Lou's comments after the game about his talk with DiLeo were interesting too - focus more on playing the 2, being agressive to the basket and scoring the ball, and playing more with miller. Seems like they're letting go of the Lou-as-a-1 experiment for now? Whatever, its working. I'm OK with lou looking to score first as long as hes driving and not settling for very-high-degree-of difficulty shots. He will have to learn to pass the ball eventually, but for now if driving the basket gets his mojo back, have at it.
    K,M
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:11 AM, 12/18/2008
    Can we please get Mike Miller? Pleaaaaaaaaaase??????
    CallerNo9
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:15 PM, 12/18/2008
    Remember the Flyers from about 10 years ago when Lindros was supposed to carry the team to the championship? Or the Sixers from 7 years ago with Iverson? Or the Eagles from 20 years ago with Cunningham? They all got stuck watching the game (and their teammate) rather than playing their game. When I watch the Sixers, I have the distinct feeling as though the other 4 on the court were very deliberate in their attempts to play off Brand and in turn watching him rather than playing their own game. Lou Williams comes first to mind when I saw him, and Sammy is probably second. It's a puzzle that I'm glad I don't have to figure out. You'd hope that after a number of games and many more practices that players just settle in and "just play instead of think". But 1/3 of the way through and these guys are definitely still thinking. IMHO...I think that we are going to need to see Brand playing more 5 than he would like. I also don't think Brand is "100%" so some limit in his minutes to maybe 30 a game for the next few months is in order. (Yeah I know he wasn't brought here to sit a quarter and a half, but it's for the best for right now). You get Brand for 30, Dalembert for 30, Speights for 20, Young for 8 and Evans/Ratliff/Marshall for the other 8 at your 4/5. That ought to keep Brand fresher and allow him to get to 100% by March which is when you need him healthy anyway. Your 3 rotation is Iguodala for 24 and Young for the other 24. Your 2 rotation is Green for 24, Iguodala for 6 and Williams for the other 18. Your 1 rotation is Miller for 36 and Ivey/Williams for the other 12. Yeah...I know...Rush needs to get on the floor, but unless he takes minutes from Green and/or Iguodala I don't see where that happens.
    doctorhim
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:52 PM, 12/18/2008
    Great points all around. JBP, glad to see the parenthesis in full force. I don't know why I use them so much. Statman: Great stuff about Iguodala. Sometimes all I have is observation, then you swoop in with numbers. 127: I completely agree that Brand being out, like Bob Ford wrote today, might be a "sugar high" -- they will win in the short-term, but it will hurt in the long run.
    Kfagan


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