76ers will qualify Young, Hawes
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76ers will qualify Young, Hawes
No huge surprise here, but the 76ers will tender qualifying offers to both Thaddeus Young and Spencer Hawes. The qualifying offers can be extended any time now, but the team is expecting to get it done by the middle of this week. This is a slightly complicated process, but what happens is that once the Sixers tender each player a qualifying offer, the team earns the right to match any offer made to the player in the free agent market.
Beginning July 1, both Young and Hawes will become restricted free agents. Because of the potential lockout, which will begin at midnight on July 1, this might not even come into play for some time because there will be a moratorium on such actions during a lockout. But what will happen is that Young and Hawes will be free to sign an offer sheet from any other team. At that point, the Sixers will have exactly seven days to match the other team's offer. If the Sixers do match, they have retained that player's rights for the amount and duration of the offer sheet the player signed.
If a player is not signed to an offer sheet during the free agent period, he is under contract (thus the qualifying offer) to play for the Sixers during the 2011-12 season at the price point of the qualifying offer. Young's qualifying offer is approximately $3.99 million; Hawes' offer is approximately $4.05 million.
If you want further explanation of this process, it can be found in an earlier post about Young's future: Deep Sixer post.
--Kate
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Comments (37)
Nice to have y'all back. Welcome back Hawes, I still have faith in you as a servicable back-up. Young, you're the man, but I'm not sure how you fit into the equation. You cannot guard a PF to save your life, you don't rebound like a PF, and you cannot really shoot, so pairing you with Turner won't work, and Turner's got more upside than you, so he'll start a SF over you. Need to get rid of Igoudala if anything...— BlackFeet01- Good.— wordsword
- Turner has more upside than Young? What have you seen on the basketball court that could possibly justify that statement. Young has never received enough credit for what he does for the team. And to my eyes, he's worked hard to improve his weaknesses, notably rebounding and defense. It's clear that if Young had a few more minutes and was a tad more selfish, he could drop 20/game very easily. Hawes is a stiff and winning teams simply do not give soft white guys like that significant minutes. Ship him to Minnesota.— auntesther
- Young is good & Hawes is decent. Both are good teammates, If there is anything we've learned from the Mavs, if they are good fits then they should get signed. The issue with #9 shows that all players need to get signed at the right price.— yobill626
BF01 why do we need to make this a Thad vs Turner thing. They have completely different skill sets. I think they could compliment each other. Thad is a SF. Turner is a swingman. You have absolutely no proof that they can't work together. Show some patience man. Thad on the Bucks would be a 20 point scorer.- Despite signing Hawes, the 76ers still need a starting center to go with improved shooting performances by Turner & Meeks. If they wind up with a healthy Kamen for Iggy, they improve (since Hawes now plays against the backups).— yobill626
- @Auntesther, we cannot be the only guys who watched the games last seaosn. I mean do people just cover their eyes when hawes is in the game?
Ya know, when i bought my fancy big red samsung HDTV, i felt like kanye West and you couldn't tell me nothin! Apparantley, I've purchased the wrong television & should have opted for the Sony 3-D tv because obviously some of ya'll see something in Hawes & Kaman that i just don't!
Please explain the logic to me in wanting a stiff that plays only 30 games a season(and that includes 5-on-5 practice drills) and a younger healthier stiff who can't rebound or block? It just makes no sense. Dalembert is a far cry from dwight howard but he is better than these two. Why should hawes get a more lucrative offer than thad?
unless the sixers plan on using hawes contract as sign-in-trade bait then i'm cool with this but c'mon. Re-signing hawes is the next worst thing they can do besides trade for ellis.
I'd rather have Dallas's 4th backup, Cardinal or whatver his name is over hawes and kaman and that's real talk!— Mack of the Pack 
Comment removed.- Hawes is a stiff and winning teams simply do not give soft white guys like that significant minutes.
Racism is still alive and well in America.
"Young will nail the stop and pop 9 footer next year. He'll go to the hole like always. But he'll also now stop and pop. Count on it."
I really hope so. I would rather have Turner at the two, provided he can improve his jumpshot as well. It would negate the necessity to trade for Ellis, but instead aim for a good bigman.
— enkiel - @auntesther: when Young was drafted, people were talking about him being a quality starting SF, a future All-Star. His game is that of a PF, he has no handles, no jumpshot, no rebounding and post defense for a frontcourt player. Turner, on the other hand, was compared to Brandon Roy, and a prime Roy is a top-10 player while still improving, a 1st ballot hof if he had meniscus in his knees. Turner's only in his 2nd upcoming season, this is Young's 5th season, and he's now a little power forward, when he was supposed to be an All-Star wing? If I had to choose between the two to be my small forward of the future, my money's going on Turner.— BlackFeet01
- We can't give up on Hawes now. He just turned 23. I definitely think he's a starting center in this league down the road, because I expect him to continue to improve. To say he's a backup only means that there are at least 30, but maybe 45 centers in the league that are better than he is and I just don't see it.
As for Young, I think he has played best at the 4 position. He's a matchup nightmare at the 4 and I think he'd have more issues at the 3-- perimeter defense and perimeter shooting.— DeanoP44 - Thad can do what shawn Marion does.. Everything.. Defensively he's better at the 4 playing that free safety role. Stopping penetration at the 15-18 ft area. I say thad over turner. Iguodala and turner are assets I mean excess. Kaman can go 30 games.. ILL TAKE IT!! Which 30 games?? The first 30?? Or his first game in late march??? Sign sam. Start Sam all year.. Start kaman during the playoffs. Kaman (dirk) Sam(chandler) and j.r. Smith (Terry).. Lou can't fill that Terry role. He's not BIGTIME!! terry hit some clutch buckets on lebron.. Lou struggles v chalmers. Terry hit Lou for 33. Lou crumbled.. Lou... HES MORE JJ BEREA! Not Terry. Berea proved his value so don't take that as a knock. But I don't care how he takes it. That's what it is. Man we effed up drafting turner.. He does not have a position. Keep him on the bench.— combocancer1975
Agree with combocancer, Thad is a Shawn Marion type, long quick & athletic.
Disagree with BF01, No one was talking about Thad being a starting SF & future all-star when he was drafted. Most people didn't know who he was and at that time many still believed Iggy was our starting SF & future all-star. But I agree that based on the big men that are on the market re-signing Hawes as a backup is a good move.
Mack, Brian Cardinal? really? He's only 6'8", will be 35 yrs old and has avged 5 pts & 2.5 rebs for his career. tell me you're joking.
Big Vil, I agree Turner and Thad are 2 completely different type of players and I actually think they can be on the floor together. Thads game is at or above the rim, Turner has a better floor game. Let's hope Turner is in the gym shooting jumpers between classes at OSU. If his range isn't improved I guarantee Collins will have him on the bench. Remember Collins wanted a shooter on the floor so badly that he started Jason Kapono at the beginning of the season.— mtairy1- Mack please you cant be that clueless . Cardinal better than kamen hawes ? What a J/O ... Kamen was hurt last year and the prev yr he avg 18 and 9 and 15 and 12 the year prior . He had 2 years were he missed games . Is it a risk ? Yes but they need to trade iggy and that might be the best value . I dont see ellis coming here for just iggy . Turner will take over for iggy and have better stats no doubt about it and collins will coach him up on the D end . Turner 2011/12 stat 15 pt - 7 reb and 5 asst .— kdubs215
- I'm "actually" rooting for a better pool question to start with... Ah making Young a Hawes and offer sounds good. Seems like many people are down on Hawes, but he's still pretty young and could be grouped in there with a young core of players to me that could develop at least as a better then average to serviceable center as long as you don't overpay him and get strapped with a ridiculous contract.— allrightknight
- agreed combocancer1975, thad is a shawn marion type, good inside, athletic starting at the 3 but backup at the 4. he's a glue guy the type to get offensive put backs and and if he became a little more scrappy he'd really be in merion's league. we need to keep him, start him at the 3 Turner at the 2. Trade Iggy for kaman and a draft pick. Kaman is not great but he'll give us more size and depth at the 5 spot, something we desperately need— jassixer
- @mtairy1: after his rookie and sophomore seasons, people were talking about this guy being a future All-Star. And up until his 3rd season, he was playing SF next to Iguodala at SG. I don't see how he could continue playing the 4 when he doesn't rebound or defend. Pretty sure Collins isn't looking to play the offensive game, trading baskets. And if Young and/or Turner can develop a decent three point shot (36%), then I'd be all for it.— BlackFeet01
- CALL MARK PRICE THAD!!! jonkap come on back dude.. who gives a damn about dallas. we are sixer fans.. but remember this.. dont ever question my basketball knowledge. i have taught myself this game... THOROUGHLY! i dont know everything but i have seen players come and go.. studied them.. taken their moves and tendencies. from ricky green to iverson. roy hinson to derrick coleman. charles barkley to thad. not to mention the rest of the league.. i know a player when i see one i know a champion when i see one... ROLE PLAYERS WIN!!!! SUPERSTARS DONT!! Ill say 70-30... 70% role players 30% superstars.. in your case you had 3 stars so it was 90-10... i have an NBA degree... my instructors were bill walton, hubie brown, larry brown, the 80's pistons the 90's bulls phil jackson... i have watched dynasties come and go.. and could not realize why we couldnt get it right. The best players have to have ACTUAL SIZE HIGH SKILL AND big men DYNAMICS... MEANING OPPOSITES!! So where are we now.. logjams (turner, iguodala, thad, brackins, lou, jrue, jodie.) and undersized.. brand at the 4 AND 5 turner if iguodala's traded.. he's not a 3 hes TOO SMALL. jrue and jodie thats a dynamic.. billups and rip. snow and iverson.. DYNAMICS! not a pile of $hit! sam and kaman.. that is a dynamic. at center. hawes as the 3rd center.. thats a good team.— combocancer1975
- Hawes is an absolute dog. Why make him an offer? How is he a starting center in the NBA? Seems like Brand has to play an awful lot of minutes at center and the Sixers are forced to play small mostly because Hawes doesn't really produce on either end of the floor. I think if we can get a good center for Iggy then that might be the deal the Sixers have to make. Keep Young though for sure.— syracusenats
- @ Kdubs. No i was serious. Watch a couple clipper games if you have NBA tv. Kaman is done, it's over. I don't want to hear what he did 2 seasons ago. 2 seasons ago brandon roy was the second coming [according to ESPN]... Trading iggy for him is senseless unless you're interested in having cap space the following season. It causes the team to take a step back. Even if we had the money, who is out there to get? Unless howard changes his mind or the CBA changes it for him, he said LA or NYC are his preferences.
@mtairy, yes i was serious too. i never said cardinal was a premier center & i do not think he should be starting. He was servicable in the finals. He can hit 3's and he never let miami just come in the lane. Unlike hawes, who just let lebron and wade j-walk to the rim saying after you king james with an english accenty! & that's the west oak lane in me talking, not going to switch to N.Philly just yet
Maybe i should have clarified that better so you & dubz could smell what i'm cooking. Dallas has him in the right spot, a #4 big man. I just think it's a shame a #4 big was better than our #1 in the playoffs with less minutes. Something has got to give; People need to stop making excuses saying hawes is only 23. If that's the case, what about lou? what about evan & thad? they are only 22,22 & 24 (if i'm correct) and have plenty of time to develop into really good players but some ppl on here have already written them off. How is it then that Hawes has gotten a chase utley pass? If anything, hawes was already getting more minutes than thad(who was in the same draft class) while he was in the west playing for the kings against the likes of: gasol, yao, duncan...has he not learned anything?
- please either of you enlighten me.— Mack of the Pack - First, anyone who has read my posts knows I don't consider Hawes a starting NBA center. In a league that lacks quality big men I do think he is a capable backup especially if he's willing to sign a resonable contract.
Second, I'm suprised someone who seems to know basketball would consider Cardinal a viable option. He plays limited minutes in 3 nationally televised games and does a handful of good things and suddenly he's a must have? This is the same type of reactionary emotion that led to Isiah Thomas signing Jerome James to a large contract. James was a career 4 pts 3 reb guy who had a good series then went right back to his career numbers.
Cardinal is a career 5 pts 2 reb guy who is short (6'8), slow, can't jump and oh by the way is 35 yrs old. This dude has spent as many games in a suit as he has on the floor. Your dislike for Hawes has clouded your judgement. His weakness is what Cardinal showed in 3 games; toughness but that doesn't mean Cardinal is a better player. I would bet if you asked the 30 GM's who they would rather have the overwhelming choice would be Hawes, not even close. As for the Mavs having him in the right spot, you're right about that. They had him in the spot at the end of the bench behind Nowitzki, Chandler, Haywood, Stojakovic and Mahinmi. Dude had 28 DNPs avged 2.6 pts and 1 reb in 11 mins per game.— mtairy1 - thank you syracusenats ..& i agree with you yet again combo. if hawes wants to play for the sixers next year, i would make him the third center..that means no $4.5M offer. he better take a serious cut or play somewhere else because he didn't convince me or what appears to look like a couple other guys on this board he's worthy of tying a backup center's shoe laces.
And another issue, wasup with the turner at the three spot? Bigvil said it and i agree. Allow turner and thad to play @ the same time if you trade iggy. Thad would be your starting SF, give turner a chance@ SG (even though i think he's a PG). Why make thad come off the bench, make turner get burnered at the 3 and then start meeks? Smh whatever kool-aid is being served as samples, some really need to put the cups down. the Only way i'd subscribed to such madness is if you have a bonafide SG that we trade for(no not ellis).— Mack of the Pack - @MackofthePack: how very condescending of you, with that Kool-Aid remark. I thought you were a better poster than that, to make insults toward others because of their opinion.— BlackFeet01
- @ blkfeet, that's not condescending, but this is: All of the posters rooting for me to fail, at the end of the day, you have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life you did before you woke up today, lol.
ok maybe that was a bad joke but the opportunity presented itself.
Anyway, I feel you chief, but i think you took offense because you assume it applies to you. The turner at the 3 position just isn't a good move. However, you're definately entitled to your own opinions/thoughts(with or without koolaid)even if they don't make sense (to me) but that's just my opinion - I could be wrong also.— Mack of the Pack - @Mack of the Pack: it obviously did apply to me, albeit not directly but still so, because I'm in that camp. And again, your opinion by saying that Turner at the 3 "just isn't a good move.", which states that as a fact, and not opinion. And by putting "to me" in parentheses, your again implying a fact first, and stating your opinion as being optional and not as important, otherwise you wouldn't have had to put it in parentheses.— BlackFeet01
- (laughs) <<< this means i'm really chuckling and nothing deeper than that. I have nothing else to say to your previous comment.
You are correct, the remark was not directed to single you out. It's just something i noticed folks have debated about for awhile now and i finally added my cents on why i personally don't like it.
But hey, if doug tries it and it works, more power to the folks who continue to suggest it(you are in that camp).— Mack of the Pack - Hawes is a very good passer and a decent shooter. The problem is that those are the skills of a point guard, not a center. At this level, you're either an aggressive player or you're not -- and Hawes is the softest center in the league, has no handle and gets into early foul trouble. At 23, he's already a proven stiff. -- Nollis Marie Milo— mariemilo
- I tip my sixers fitted hat to yet another poster who has knowledge of what has occured during this past season's games and who doesn't have to over analyze the obvious.
Good points mariemilo.— Mack of the Pack - Comment removed.
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- @Kolb: correct, I misspoke, not before he was drafted, yet after his rookie and sophomore seasons, people were looking at him as a future all-star. He'd spend minutes at PF, but from his rookie season, through some of the 09-`10 season, he was mainly playing SF next to Iguodala @ SG.— BlackFeet01
- @Kolb: and you intentionally calling me by a name that is not mine, just shows your condescending and angry nature, to disrespect me for no legitimate reason. Get some therapy, and find some resolve, and stop holding these grudges aganist people whom you don't know.— BlackFeet01
@Mtairy, you have to look no further than the rest of the folks on here posting after me about hawes. I'm glad that you acknowledged he's no starting center (whew) because you had me worried. i wasn't comparing their depth spot which is even more embarrassing, what i'm trying to say is: based on what i've seen in these playoffs, hawes has gotten outplayed.
You're looking @ it through the eyes of a hopeful fan. A GM would notice that what Cardinal did(in the limited minutes he had in the finals alone)was more crucial to the success of his team than what hawes did the entire miami series! if you can dispute that i'm not sure what else to tell you.
You are right about the jerome james situation, but that's 1 single case of an uneducated GM overzealous with spending money. Cuban is alot smarter than that, and as much as i hate to admit it, stefanski probaly is too(in this case).- You're delusional. Brian Cardinal? The guy who avged 2 pts and 1 reb per game in 2011? I apologize for overestimating your bball knowledge. — mtairy1
- Than I am. I must've been taking water breaks while spencer was dominating the paint that series and i missed it; the interesting thing is DVR didn't catch it! Apology accepted Mr.airy, I'll see you@ the west oak lane Jazz Festival. I'll be looking for the guy brave enough to wear a Hawes jersey in the crowd.— Mack of the Pack
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