Wednesday, June 19, 2013
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Councilman wants to end employer requests for social media passwords

City Councilman Bill Greenlee is joining the bandwagon of legislators who say employers should butt out of employees' personal lives.

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Councilman wants to end employer requests for social media passwords

POSTED: Thursday, February 21, 2013, 7:17 PM

Has an employer ever asked for your Facebook or Twitter password?

Well doing so is illegal in at least two states: California and Illinois. Now City Councilman Bill Greenlee is joining the bandwagon of legislators who say employers should butt out of employees’ personal lives.

“They shouldn’t be forced to give up their social media account where employers or prospective employers can look into what really is their private business which might divulge their political beliefs, their religious beliefs, their sexual orientation, that kind of thing. And that shouldn’t really be the employers business to know,” Greenlee said.

Greenlee introduced a bill Thursday that would prohibit employers from asking for passwords to social media accounts. He said he heard of job seekers that had been asked to handover their passwords, but it wasn’t clear if the matter was a problem here in Philadelphia.

“I can’t give you a specific example, but I know it has happened,” said Greenlee. “We have heard from people who complained about this.”

Should the bill pass it would be up to the Nutter administration to establish an agency (or assign the function to an existing one) and procedure to take complaints, Greenlee said.

Meanwhile, a bill sponsored by Greenlee on behalf of the administration that would regulate horses on private property was unanimously approved by Council.

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Comments  (25)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:18 PM, 03/01/2013
    City Council is always right on top of the most important issues of the day. (Note sarcasm.)
    Blister
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:46 PM, 02/22/2013
    so what you state on a social site is considered public information ? what happened to the freedom of speech ? what a world we have....
    eddiot
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:28 AM, 02/22/2013
    At my work, we do a lot of interviewing and we are forbidden to NOT to google or search for anything on the candidate... too many discrimination lawsuits in the country. "He saw my facebook page and realized I was an older person and they didnt hire me because of my age!"

    So having access to a candidate's full account and email, that has to open the door wide open for trouble.. "I have messages with my friends about the republican party, and that's why I didnt get hired"
    OnTheBandwagon
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:21 AM, 02/22/2013
    Two schools of thought on this - an employer, ANY employer has no right to your Facebook account as a condition of employment. Would you be entitled to the interviewer's account? Perhaps allow them to see your page, but not a password. That is just bully tactics to get people to cave in, and in today's job market, some people will do anything they have to to provide for themselves and their family. Use Linkedin or some other professional-type network - that's what it's for.
    Second point, don't put stupid stuff on your facebook page. It's out there for the world to see. No pictures of you with a bong or standing on your head chuggin out of a keg. It will come back to haunt you someplace down the line.
    mportik
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:11 AM, 02/22/2013
    I agree with many of the comments on here-City Council has NOTHING better to do? Ok, let's introduce a bill condemning an action in FL, or banning raccoons from digging through abandoned lots. These are your tax dollars at work.
    BenFranklinToday
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:27 AM, 02/22/2013
    I am sorry but I really doubt this is a wide spread problem. Most employers don't have time to be snooping through Facebook pages, etc.
    Joschmo
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:00 AM, 02/22/2013
    "...He said he heard of job seekers that had been asked to handover their passwords...." Since when is "handover" a single word? That is sloppy writing and editing. It is "hand over" with a space between. Quit debasing the language.
    Jinchesco
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:08 AM, 02/22/2013
    I don't see how this is a Philadelphia issue. Let the State decide if/how to proceed. Let the State pick up the expense.

    We can't rely on Council to effectively manage what they are supposed to do? Do we want to add one more area (AND EXPENSE we can't afford) to see them blotch another?

    We should be looking at ways to REDUCE both the size of council and the areas they mismanage....or we can just bend over some more and say double that AVI.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:23 AM, 02/22/2013
    I agree this is a state issue. But, given the employer friendly, conservative legislature we have, good luck with that.

    It's not right that employers want to know anything about my personal life. I've never been asked for my password, but I'm also in a position where I could turn down a job if someone did. I have nothing to hide, but I do have to have some boundaries. Allowing employers to do this is walking all over our rights.

    I know the city has a lot to do, but I gotta say, this is important to protect ourselves.
    PotteryPete
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:05 AM, 02/22/2013

    I'm not arguing the privacy issue. I do argue both who's jurisdiction this is and who can effectively manage this.

    Philadelphia City Council meets neither of those two points. Next, council will pass a ban on nuclear weapons testing and look to add another layer of government in a fraudulent attempt at 'oversight'.

    An exaggeration? Sure but not by much. Greenlee, get council to do its job properly. How about starting with policing the ethics of your own members?
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:50 AM, 02/22/2013
    So he has no concrete examples but he wants to pass legislation anyway. Brilliant.
    Even if it's a good idea, he's still wrong.
    theodotius
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:43 AM, 02/22/2013
    Giving access to your Facebook account to other users is a violation of the terms of service posted by Facebook.
    tjinphilly
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:09 AM, 02/22/2013
    In a city where our kids are frequently shot to death and citizens are afraid to walk the streets for fear of being shot, robbed or raped, maybe Councilman Greenlee and his fellow Honorables should concentrate first on the serious things that are sinking this City and less on minor things like this silly social media bill. Much of the City is in shambles while Greelee and his silly buddies are "shocked, shocked" about this insignificant jelly spot.
    swonderful
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:46 AM, 02/22/2013
    it may happen in philly and pittsburgh - but not the state - too many republicans who need to know everything you do so they can judge you
    mikey5432
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:15 AM, 02/22/2013
    Symbolic only. If you are interviewing and say no you are not going to get the job law or no law.
    Earl J
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:19 AM, 02/22/2013
    There is no reason that an employer should have the password. This is a serious invasion of privacy.
    jeanjae
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:09 AM, 02/22/2013
    Why would they need the password to see what their prospective employees are putting out on the web? Makes no sense.
    ICDogg
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:44 AM, 02/22/2013
    Council proposing another law to solve a problem that they aren't sure even exists in the city.
    BarryG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:31 PM, 02/21/2013
    With all of the problems the city of Philadelphia faces, especially the school system, this is the best waste of time any city council member has come up with yet. This is a do nothing agenda item that gives the illusion that a city council member is doing something usefull. Without actually achieving anything of substance.
    cookie23
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:13 PM, 02/21/2013
    Why work for an employer who demands your passwords? Simply find another job.
    kelprod2-freemarket
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:05 AM, 02/22/2013
    Drones overhead? Did you forget to put your tinfoil hat on this morning?

    Go ahead, renounce (not Denounce) your citizenship, "Dr.". My guess is you won't be happy wherever you live.
    Tatt2
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:38 PM, 02/21/2013
    What Greenlee should be telling people is not to advertise that they live like fools and thugs.
    tr88
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:27 AM, 02/22/2013
    tr88 probably believes that employers can impose their own religious beliefs on the workers too


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