stupid just plain stupid not to allow this to be built here. so many jobs so much revenue for the city

I totally agree with you StockDoctor... the waterfront is an embarrassment as it currently is. Its amazing that other cities can have really nice waterfronts, but Philly doesnt understand that. Both people in the surrounding tri-state area and the City can both benefit from a revitalized waterfront. Building parks and some bike trails wont do that.

look at boston,baltimore even new york waterfronts and ask yourself only in philadelphia with it's twenty years of failed planning of our waterfront and the politicians doing there best to stop this significant development,why? Do they have other interest do they have other investors ready to go or do they like it they way it is with thug night clubs that at 2am on weekends the shootings start.

Yes, the City is finally under an administration that takes into consideration the interests of the neighborhoods where these casinos are supposed to be located. Thank God we finally have a mayor who didn't sell out to casino interests and doesn't want to keep the river front a blighted wasteland until casinos build there. The river front can be developed in a way that's friendly to the people living around there and be an asset to the city, as in the Penn Praxis plans. The casinos can be moved to another location away from people's homes from where they provide the same revenue and jobs to the city.

I have to agree with jhemm. About the last thing we need is a casino on the waterfront. In fact, government needs to stop using gambling as a source of revenue. It's not only immoral, it's not a wise financial dcision. As we slide into a deep recession until about 2013, the gambling industry will be taking a hit. People always cut back on non-essentials in recessions, and I can't think of any expenditure less essential than wasting my dough in a casino. Nutter is right, and Rendell is dead wrong on this issue.

As a lifelong resident of Philadelphia and 25 year resident of Fishtown, it is clear that a majority of Fishtown residents support the Sugarhouse casino for a variety of reasons; jobs with health benefits, opportunities for local vendors to increase their business, and a development where the community has access to the warerfront area that has been inaccessible for decades. Fishtown does not want another gated condo development and the City very much needs the revenue. In fact the Mayor has included Philadelphia casino revenue in his 5 year budget plan (talk about being disingenious). Our rec centers and schools (but his daughter goes to Masterman)are falling apart but the Mayor continues to spend hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to fight this development that the Fishtown community supports. I supported this guy for Mayor but boy did I make a mistake!

How much of your tax dollars has the city spent fighting casinos? And how much money does the city lose every day the casinos are delayed? Keep fighting against businesses that WANT to come into the city and keep watching people and businesses flee. Way to go, Philly! You're number one!

Another bump in the road for SugarHouse and Fishtown. Desparate attempts to undo clear legal precident and rulings aside, -this is causing nothing but a delay for the inevitable building and welcome which SugarHouse will receive in Fishtown, even as we will be waving goodbye to those who should be representing out interests. The hypocracy is glarring. All of a sudden, Nutter and his minions (who, in the heart of hearts want and need SugarHouse just where it is) weigh in like they CARE about Our (YES OUT RIVERFRONT.) When was the last time Nutter took his family to a picnic in Penn Treaty Park? When was the last time he donned overalls to help clean up the crack needles and trash? But now that neighbors have negotiated a sweet relationship with a business which will bring jobs, revenue and a renewed Riverfront, HE IS SOOOOOO concerned about it. Has he even walked around the so called "effected" blocks which are strewn with trash, broken bottles and crumbling houses? SUGARHOUSE is going to negatively effect them? So Nutter, spend citizen's money to fight one of the best business opportunities and job engines to come to Fishtown. What do u care about us anyway. You are fighting an expensive battle which, no doubt, are enriching lawyers and postponing the jobs and development we need. There's a phrase which comes right out of struggling communities which I know Michael Nutter knows well: GOD DON'T LIKE UGLY. Nutter, come into the Light will you?

"GOD DON'T LIKE UGLY" is right. It means God don't like ugly slot barns that cause people to gamble their money away and attract crime and traffic congestion. It also means God don't like people who when shown a few $$ are ready to throw their river side neighbors under the bus. Yeah, you heard me FishTownForever, GOD DON'T LIKE FACT ("Facts According to Casino Topdogs") and Fishtown don't like the slot barns in its front yard.

As a longtime resident of Fishtown, it is clear that a majority of Fishtown residents oppose the Sugarhouse casino for a variety of reasons: its closeness to residential areas (no other casinos are as close to people's homes as the proposed Sugarhouse casino); the traffic nightmares it will create; the crime and prostitution it will bring to the area and the need to pay for more police; plus many others. Fishtown does not want another gated condo or a slot parlor gambling venue and the City very much needs the revenue, so why not develop the river front the right way (Penn Praxis) and relocate the casino somewhere else. Tell the stubborn casinos owners to relocate so that the city can stop spending hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to fight this development that the Fishtown community opposes.

If course all of the trades unions want the casinos built - I heard the rate for an experienced plumber is over $100 / hr. The trade unions will always be for any kind of project that involves building something, regardless of any merits or problems. But there are a lot of other major issues to consider that have permanent effects on many others.

JL totally WRONG as usual. Fishtowners are frustrated that SugarHouse is not open for business. The MAJORITY of Fishtown residents support SugarHouse. And Daniel..really what comic book are you reading? Plumbers making $100/hour? You heard wrong.

If you are anxious for SugarHouse to open, you don't really have to wait. Just go outside and throw your money in the gutter. After all, when it comes to throwing your money away . . . don't delay, do it today!

I am glad to see progress being made at the SugarHouse site. SH, Fishtown will welcome you, -wait and see! The few who oppose you promise to move away when you open, so PLEEZE open soon. Our neighbors need jobs with benefits (even if the uppity think $25,000 a year jobs with benefits are some how shameful), the RiverFront needs development with pedestrian access and our businesses will be great partners with you. Don't Delay, keep on building today!

"The MAJORITY of Fishtown residents support SugarHouse". This is a lie that has been peddled by members of FACT ("Facts According to Casino Topdogs"), a Sugarhouse funded organization in Fishtown that under the guise of being "grassroots" has been defending and advocating Neil Bluhm's interests, not those of the community. The truth is that there has been no reliable poll to show how many people support or oppose casinos.