Steelers say they have Vick figured out
Everyone is an expert before the game starts, or as Mike Tyson once said, “Everybody’s got a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”
Steelers say they have Vick figured out
Bob Ford, Inquirer Sports Columnist
Everyone is an expert before the game starts, or as Mike Tyson once said, “Everybody’s got a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”
That goes for the Eagles and what they hope to accomplish against the Steelers’ defense this Sunday, and also goes for what the Steelers think they know about stopping Michael Vick and the Eagles.
Steve McLendon, one of Pittsburgh’s nose tackles, said he likes the new Vick that has been constructed by Andy Reid and Marty Mornhinweg, notwithstanding Vick’s good showing last Sunday against the Giants.
“Vick is trying to stay in the pocket. He’s trying to be the quarterback he’s not. That’s the thing, he’s trying to be the quarterback he’s not, and I hope he keeps being that quarterback,” McLendon said in this article written by Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. “We want him to sit in the pocket. As long as he’s sitting in the pocket, we have a good chance to get to him and hit him.”
McLendon’s point of view is pretty similar to the one I put forward in last week’s preview column, that the best thing about Vick when he is at his best is his unpredictability. By making him predictable, Andy Reid is also making life easier for opposing defenses.
OK, but did any of that change because of what we saw in the Giants’ game?
Yes and No. Reid and Mornhinweg called more running plays than usual, which helped keep New York’s defense off-balance. As the Eagles used Shady McCoy heavily in the second half, the Giants all but stopped blitzing.
Vick seemed to get rid of the ball much faster than in previous games this season, but whether that was a conscious effort on his part or whether the brain trust chose quicker routes remains to be seen. And it remains to be seen if Reid and Mornhinweg will stick with what worked or get all pass-delerious again. Deciding that the light bulb has gone on for the Eagles’ offense is always a dangerous thing.
Against the Giants, Vick also got himself out of the pocket on a few occasions rather than hang around and get creamed. He ran five times, not including one kneeldown, and it looked as if two of those were designed runs and three were scrambles. On the other hand, he threw 30 passes and was sacked twice. That means he ran the ball on five out of 37 non-handoff opportunities, or 13.5 percent. Judging by what has worked over his career, that’s still too low a percentage and it means, if that continues, the Steelers will know right where he is on Sunday.
They seem to think that’s a good thing, and the Eagles seem to think they have figured this thing out as well. As always, someone’s right and someone’s going to get punched in the mouth.
Mike Vick doesn't even have Mike Vick figured out, how the hell could the Steelers?— sla6yer- This comment has been deleted.— d1955h
- No. Andy Reid is 2-1 against them. The last time they played them Ben was sacked 8 times and knocked out of the game early. — BumSatellite
- Run Mike Run!— Aussie Fan
- The problem with your article last week was that you assumed that the being predictable was somehow a bad thing. Peyton Manning has made a career out of being predictable, as has Tom Brady.
I am not saying Vick is in the same league. But "being unpredictable" and "being able to win games" consistently are not the same thing. The unpredictable Vick would make some great plays with his legs, but take away his run, and he's struggle to beat teams in the air. Ask the Atlanta Falcons. OTOH, the 2010 Michael Vick was far more dangerous - a QB who could also run if needed, but who managed a very effective pass attack. That is what Reid and Marty are trying to create.
It is absurd to argue against this. You are probably the only person in the world who thinks that it is better for Vick to be an undisciplined player who takes off early, instead of going through his progressions. (HTML deleted)— vkalia - yep i agree — defroe
- As long as Andy keeps the damn ball on the ground...we can win this game.. we will find out how much of a lesson they have learned from the last game— nixman101
- i hope we show up to play on both sides of the ball. leave them at 0 and run up the score on offense and defense. would be nice to beat them like 42 to 0 lol or maybe 42-3 some crazy ridiculous score like that would be so awesome to leave pitsburgh 1-3 record and us 4-1 ahhh how nice that would be...— defroe
- How many times do we have to say "Run the ball more". 10 years of saying it with great RBs like Duce, Westbrook, McCoy - and here we are, all these years later still saying "RUN MORE!"— Nova
- I dont care what nobody says Mike Vick stops Mike Vick!! Throwing the ball in dumb spots, fumbling the ball and sometimes being reckless... Everybody always say they got Shadys figured out, D Jack,Namdi Etc...Always talking trash!!!— salis15
- @Slayer.. Thats true.. I think when this team meshes its going to be something.— Zeru
- So the steelers were the last team in the league to figure him out?— Sidewinder7
- A much better question is who would have ever thought Mike Tyson would have a quote repeated so often. I hear that quote all the time, way to go Mike.......Tyson— peteike
- GO MIKE VICK GO! Nobody has him figured out. Not yet. Nobody knows if he's getting ready to be the 2010 Mike Vick again or an even better version! The Eagles have almost as good a defense as they had when the great B-Dawk stripped Big Ben and then recovered the ball all at the same time. I see the Eagles going 4-1 after Sunday!— Panthro2011
- If the EAGLES are able to establish the run ( BIG IF), then with our speed on the outside and Shady McCoy around the edges, we should be ok. The question should be which defense is going to show up? They got playactioned to death last week and with the Steelers having Mendenhall back and their speed on the outside it could be a long day for us— LMUNIZ
- The team that is talking smack seems the more desperate team here...throwing enough stuff on the wall and waiting to see what sticks. Smack talk doesn't win games, ha.— BirdinParadise
- Thought the A'ints created the template how to beat Vick... It is starting to look like Mike is finding HIS balance the Athlete... The Runner... The Pocket Qb... Still to small a Sampling as Mike's NEW identity as a Pocket, / / Qbcontinues to evolve... with the Steelers, Lions, Falcons, Saints and GALS on the plate Vick's performance running this GAUNTLET of Quality teams will go a long way in solidifying my confidence for a championship this season.
M.M. has said Run or Pass depends on the scheme we're facing, and about staying aggressive... HOPEFULLY " Lessons Learned " after the AZ beat-down and his aggression with "PASS" play-calling to the point of STUPIDITY... has forced him to acknowledge, a more BALANCED approach might keep his QB upright and alive. more importantly improve our chances to WIN. Bottom Line " Just Win Baby".— trinieagle - Staying in the Eagles pocket is not a sound strategy for Mike Vick. Getting the ball out on shorter routes and Vick scrambling keeps defenses on their heels. Vick is still a weapon when he uses all of his talents. Vick moving out of the pocket changed the complexity of the Giants run Sunday. In the 4th Quarter that rush was fatigued and ineffective which allowed Shady to gash the Giants and keep drives alive.— Dexter
