Why does Rush Limbaugh hate America (and me)?
My response to Limbaugh's attack on my "wacko" views
Why does Rush Limbaugh hate America (and me)?
Rush Limbaugh called me a "wacko" yesterday to his 20 million radio listeners.
I am truly honored and humbled.
This is the guy, after all, who compared Abu Ghraib to a racuous frat party, who took American radio to a new lows with terms like "feminazi," who made fun of Michael J. Fox's Parkinson's disease and who called positive press for the Eagles' Donovan McNabb "a social concern" because McNabb is a black quarterback -- just 17 months before McNabb led his team to the Super Bowl. To make my way to his "wacko" list...well, I can think of no better proof that I must be doing something right.
To what do I owe the privilege? The backstory is interesting, but in a nutshell the right-wing blogosphere belatedly (as in nearly two months late) stumbled onto Sen. Barack Obama's April visit to the Daily News, where I had the chance to ask him how an Obama administration might deal with White House internal discussions of torturing terror suspects, and other potential crimes in the Bush White House.
Here's a short snippet of what I wrote on April 14:
Tonight I had an opportunity to ask Barack Obama a question that is on the minds of many Americans, yet rarely rises to the surface in the great ruckus of the 2008 presidential race -- and that is whether an Obama administration would seek to prosecute officials of a former Bush administration on the revelations that they greenlighted torture, or for other potential crimes that took place in the White House.
Obama said that as president he would indeed ask his new Attorney General and his deputies to "immediately review the information that's already there" and determine if an inquiry is warranted -- but he also tread carefully on the issue, in line with his reputation for seeking to bridge the partisan divide. He worried that such a probe could be spun as "a partisan witch hunt." However, he said that equation changes if there was willful criminality, because "nobody is above the law."
The story actually did make a small fuss at the time, but the world moved on, until a conservative blogger named Thomas Lifson apparently stumbled across the old post -- just as the right wing was waking up to the very real notion of an Obama presidency. To Lifson, Obama's fairly measured comments on the subject (in my opinion) in fact suggested "the totalitarian practice of jailing the predecessors when a new president takes office." From there, the far-right blogosphere was off and running, working its way down the food chain until it burrowed into the muck of Limbaughland, who really seemed more worked up about insignificant little me -- who became a "Stalinist" once the worked-up El Rushbo reached the end of his monologue -- than about the Democrat poised to take over the White House :
After the administration's left office, to pursue an investigation that might lead to criminal indictments for war crimes and other things. We used to do that to the Nazis. We did do that to the Nazis, the Nuremberg Trials and so forth. This is who today's modern liberals are. Now, Obama's got this wacko reporter for the Philadelphia Daily News who's obviously not a reporter. He is a leftist who happens to have secured a job in journalism, and he's got an agenda, and the agenda is right out of the cliched story line of the Drive-By Media, that we are a murderous, raping, torturing nation and that Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld and Powell have to pay. This is all about creating the notion in as many people's minds that our country is criminal, is in a constant state of decline, and we are not worth our reputation as the world's greatest superpower.
Limbaugh concluded:
This would be a direct assault on the United States and its government. And you talk about we need to improve our reputation in the world. Look at how they would do it. By finding the US guilty at every opportunity of whatever baseless, phony charges that they would make. This is Stalinist. If you've ever wondered what the definition of is Stalinist, this would fit it.
Frankly, I think the political right, all the way up to the White House, doth protest too much on this whole "war crimes" issue; that is, they're realizing the polls are showing the GOP may be shut out of power, and people desperately want to steer the conversation away from the things that were actually done the last 7 1/2 years, from authorizing torture to widespread spying on Americans. You're going to see a lot of things in the next few months -- some subtle, some blatant -- seeking to shift the debate away from the horrors inside the House at 1600.
Ironically, as the person who was actually in the room when Obama made his remarks, my sense was that -- given his reputation for caution and seeking the center -- that he'd rather undergo root canal than be linked to any kind of criminal prosecution of what happened from 2001-09 -- unless what happened under Bush and Cheney was so egregious that decent people simply could not look the other way.
Sadly, that may well be the case. Remember, we're talking about waterboarding, rendition, unlawful spying and possible cover-ups of those acts. Does most of America want a new attorney general who doesn't think these things aren't worth at least a preliminary peek?
Which brings me to the substance, such as it is, of what Limbaugh said yesterday. His message is quite simple -- or should I say simplistic? -- which is that an attack on George W. Bush and Dick Cheney very easily morphs into an attack on the "nation" -- as he said, specifically, that "we are a murderous, raping, torturing nation." Except that I said no such thing, nor do I believe that, nor do other people with liberal views. We believe that America has been a nation that has brought incredible good to the world, from our bedrock principles of free speech, free beliefs and democratic elections to the amazing people who used our liberty to bring the world everything from the electric light to the World Wide Web to "The Great Gatsby" and so many, many other things.
It was that power -- the power of morality and the idea that a nation could be ultimately governed by its lofty laws and not by flawed mortals -- that made America into the superpower that Limbaugh spoke of, a superpower in the sense that millions of people from around the world wanted to come here and, once upon a time, millions more wanted to be just like us. Our country is not criminal -- no one said that, either -- but for the sake of my children I want to make sure that future leaders know that criminals who somehow get in place to run the country can't get away with it. And no one said that our country is in a "constant state of decline" -- unless somehow when I wasn't looking the definition of "constant" was changed to "7 1/2 years." It was only a decade ago that most of the world envied our technology, our culture, and our enterprise -- before people around the globe from Bogota to Beirut learned how to pronounce Guantanamo.
A couple years back, Limbaugh wrote an interesting piece for the Wall Street Journal in 2005 explaining conservatism by saying that "We believe in individual liberty, limited government, capitalism, the rule of law, faith, a color-blind society and national security." Except that just three year later Limbaugh (in addition to his "color-blind" endorsement of an op-ed that called Obama "a magic Negro") doesn't care much about the unlimited power of a government to deprive people of their individual liberty -- even as Gitmo and Abu Ghraib compromise national security by serving as a recruitment tool to new terrorists.
Well, at least he still has faith in capitalism.
But Limbaugh's worst sin is equating our corrupt leaders -- who must never be above the law, both when they're in office and after they've left it -- with our timeless Constitution and the laws that all Americans are bound to follow, and -- if necessary -- to enforce. Indeed, who is really hating on America here? To say that any criticism or, if required, prosecution of those leaders is the same thing as an assault on our country means that we are no longer a nation but a cult of personality -- which in fact is exactly what they had in the Soviet Union and those other totalitarian states.
If you've ever wondered what the definition of Stalinist is, this would fit it.
Comments (101)
C'mon, Will. Just admit it. You, like all "libz" and Dems have a statue of Stalin in your basement that you kowtow to nightly. I guess you'll never own up to your lack of patriotism, catapult the propaganda, and add your voice to those who daily call 1/2 the voting public communists? Thank God there are still (a dwindling marginalized minority of) "great Americans" like Limbaugh, who are willing to bravely step up and slander anyone who has opinions different from their own.— Talking point sleuth- For most of us over 50, the country certainly appears to be in a state of decline. We have gone from Eisenhower's prescient concerns about the consequences of an increasingly powerful military-industrial complex to simply turning over billions of dollars to private contractors with no accountability at all. We've gone from attorneys general who have pushed back against executive branch corruption (Watergate, Iran Contra) to a Justice Department that is full of partisan hacks, oppo researchers, and tools that use prosecutorial power to further the interests of the party in power. Then there's holding prisoners without trial, extraordinary rendition, the advocacy for torture, and outing a CIA agent. And we haven't even talked about lying to the American people to sell us on going to war against a country that had not attacked us. To the extent that we no longer adhere to international laws and the Geneva Conventions, to the extent that our elected leaders believe in what amounts to dictatorship (the idea of the "unitary executive," for one example), we are moving far afield from the grounding principles of our Constitution--and thus in decline.— LJP
- A poll actually came out Wednesday that indicates most Americans do believe the USA is declining as a nation. One of the reasons has to be sick blowhards like Limbaugh actually have an audience that sucks up his despicable comments. It was apparent to me that he figured out that the Bush Presidency was "bad for business", which is why he was pushing for Hillary. He's an attack dog, not a guard one.— yobill626
- Dude, aren't you the same intrepid journalist who recently accused the POTUS of "political treason" ? Comments like this play directly into the hands of guys like Rush Limbaugh. You served up a fat softball pitch, and he knocked it over the wall. So make old Rush work a little harder next time. Or perhaps maybe consider a different "pitch selection" ? Or maybe run off to another "online web conference" if you cannot handle the heat.— shoeshineboy
- "political treason" is not an unrealistic assessment of what Bush & Co. may have done. "Stalinist" has absolutely nothing to do with wanting to try and convict leaders who have broken many laws and killed many people in the process.— Verena
- Shoeshineboy shows you just why Rush does it. No matter what he says, however untrue, however impossible, however it contradicts what he already said earlier, go with it. The fountainhead of sewage. Isn't it embarrassing how he takes you for such fools? And you thought Obama was slow to get rid of Wright, but you guys eat up everything Rush shovels out. Individual liberty, rule of law, limited government, national security my crack. Don't you guys know that when soldiers and officials take their oaths of office, they swear to preserve and defend the Constitution, not your sorry skinny necks, and sure as heck not your pathetic political party.— SteveMG
- Good work, Will. If Limbaugh's coming after you, you know you must have gotten under his skin. The Repubs are *petrified* that Obama's going to win, and that he might actually hold them accountable. What'd be remarkable is if we could get bipartisan support for prosecutions. At the very least, pressure to put on Snowe, Collins, Specter, and other so-called moderates... what're Jeffords & Chaffee up to right now?— gregm
- Everyone knows that Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer not a true political analyst, and that he has the typical addict's penchant for excess. He has no real credibility, except within the audience that depends on him for their daily dose of news and opinion. That audience is a small minority compared to the rest of the nation that is sick of this administration's dirty deeds. I do not know if it is an "honor" to be on Rush's hit list, but it certainly is a good thing not to be part of his following.— Magistra
Comment removed.- why isn't he in prison where he belongs?— exrepublican
- Will, do you really care what Rush Limbaugh thinks of you? Don't waste your brain cells! Limbaugh is a snake, will always be a snake and regrettably there are the "snakes" who love him because of what he does best ...push hate!— nuffera
- Will. Never argue with an idiot. People who support this administration and the political party it represents, are idiots. The proof can be seen from sea to shinning sea.— Ron
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- Limbaugh is pure scum. There is a special place reserved in hell for him. Meanwhile, if you want to have a good laugh, look at this: http://towerofdabble.wordpress.com/2008/06/11/jsm-campaign-issues-sos/— wtfwjd?
- Will, this is your best post ever, and that is saying a lot. Keep up the good work.— Bender
The right doth protest too much on the whole war crimes issue? Will, your the one who brings it up every 2 seconds, your the one who asked Obama about it. You say Obama went to the center on the issue. Obama's never been at the center on anything. I'm sure you could see the drool running down his mouth as he gave his "measured response" Now Limbaugh gets a hold of it and calls you out, all of a sudden we should move on from it. Who are you kidding? Your getting attention from the top political pundit in the nation, and your loving it. You need to be careful what you wish for, Rush Limbaugh is not Christine Flowers.— jmc- Good post. You sum up my problems with 90% of the "conservatives" that post here. There is no nuance int heir thoughts, if you criticize the gov't, you hate America. Get in line and blindly follow our leader, as long as they have an (R) next to their name. If Obama wins, watch how quickly that will switch, and the likes of Rush will be lamenting our fall from grace. Also, some conservatives are anythign but. They clap like seals for this admin as it slowly erodes liberties and runs up a humongous debt via deficit spending. As for Rush, someone else nailed it. He's an entertainer, counting his money as he laughs at all thsoe who worship at his altar. To be fair, Olbermann is now on his plateau.— RG
beats me, will...but i can't stand your dumba** either. total loser you are--how do you feel about your messiah today who is looking more and more like the politician he says that he wants to rid washington of...- Shemp, I always thought you were the least funniest Stooge. I still have that opinion.— Captain Awesome
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- Thanks Captain Awesome..always here to make you left wing fruitcakes squirrly.
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- Will, thank you for adding fuel to the argument that terrorists, the people who DO hate America, would vote for Obama... if they could.— leroy105
- The hate Americans first crowd loves comedian Rush Limbaugh. Only thing is, they take him seriously. No, really.— E.Plebnista
Liberal loons and America haters like Will, once again. practicing the the fine art of projection.— ocjones- RG: How much nuance to liberals have when their answer to everything is government regulation and higher taxes. How much nuance do liberals have when they call for war crimes trials for the President and VP and not offer one single shred of evidence, other than their own paranoia, that there is any wrongdoing? Liberals use nuance as a crutch for evading reality.— jmc
Even Limbaugh has slow news days, eh Will? The fact is, his relevance to any meaningful political discourse is dwindling rapidly. Has anyone heard from Coulter lately? Even Malkin has to besmirch donut chains now to even merit a brief, bemused "WTF?" from the blogosphere. These court jesters must realize that nobody's laughing at their schtick anymore, but they can't seem to come up with a new act.
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- It's not that Rush hates you... It's that he thinks you're an idiot... You're a typical bleeding-heart, pinko, media elite(smarter and more enlightened than all us hayseeds outside of the Philly city limits)liberal... He would be right in that assessment---so don't cry and complain because the man speaks the truth...— Delaware Vol
- I'm always amazed how liberals will preach tolerance and acceptance of others but then turn around and engage in total destruction of anyone they don't like or disagree with. Obviously, Bunch you don't agree with George Bush's policies following 9/11, okay you can feel that way, but when you try to make him out to be some criminal who did what he did just because he's mean you became deserving of the title 'wacko'. Remember, the waterboarding and the rendition were done following a terrorist attack on our country by foreign terrorists living in our country. I don't like those things either, but he was doing what he did to protect the country. And there wasn't any 'unlawful spying', it was an 'electronic surveillance program' which was legal under the law of executive order, again to protect the country from foreign terrorists living here, not to deliberately spy on regular Americans as you make it out to be.— Phillysub
- Captain Awesome: Is Shemp less funny than Joe or Curly Joe? I actually prefer Shemp slightly to Curly. After all, he was the original third Stooge in their vaudville/Ted Healy days. My dog is named Shemp (really). OK my Stooge geek-out is over, back to politics.— jmc
- Government regulation? Like wiretapping? Or bailouts for Bear Stearns (which as partially a result fo deregulation)? Or how about amendments prohibiting gay marriage, flag burning, abortion, etc. "Conservatives" are just hunky dorey with gov't regulations when they fit their agenda of choice. As for higher taxes, if the Repubs could stop deficit spending, then maybe that idea wouldn't need to be floated. Keep running two wars on credit, we'll see how it turns out.— RG
- Delaware Vol. True. We're all just so darn un-enlightened. We really need to "wake up" and "think" because, obviously, if we have an opinion counter to the libs, we must be stupid. Congratulations, Will. Maybe you can make a bumper sticker out of this acknowledgement from Rush. Any more room on the back of the -- let me guess -- Subaru Outback?— Patrick M
- Phillysub, the prez hid the surveillance from the public, then when it was exposed, he stated he had the right to do it. Are you saying any action taken by the administration is justified under keeping the nation safe?— RG
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- Will Bunch = Professional Journalist. Rush Limbaugh = large, leaking, pseudo-intellectual bag of aging methane adrift over the political landscape. The presumption that Limbaugh "speaks" for serious people who inhabit the entire spectrum of the political Right is on the same order as believing there really are fairies at the end of the garden (and that Obama has emerged unsullied from the Democratic Candidate Machine with his idealism intact). Calling Limbaugh a "Stalinist" diminishes the monstrosity of the genuine article; defining him as other than an attention-seeking entertainer is to take him too seriously. Each political party is cursed with it's own clowns and "idiots", whose only trick is an ability to manipulate language for their own self-aggrandizement: Sharpton does for the liberal left, and Limbaugh for the conservative right - but take either seriously as a representative of the whole, or the "Authentic Voice of The (mythical) People"? No. Mr Bunch, although I don't always agree with you, I do believe that as an accredited professional you deserve to be insulted by better than Limbaugh of the tiny mind and hot-button prose. Not every conservative/Republican is an "idiot", no more than every Democratic/liberal is endowed with some kind of rare, shining genius. Each party is deeply flawed but it is up to its membership to fix them. Depriving Limbaugh of oxygen would be a good beginning for those of us who are not seduced by the whole Obama/Democratic noise.— CCH
- JMC --- I have more respect for your political views (which I tend to disgree with) than your point of Shemp being funnier than Curly. Curly, along with Groucho Marx, Jackie Gleason & Jack Benny are the four guys who should be on comedy's Mt. Rushmore. Although Shemp is MUCH funnier than Joe & Curly Joe, you need to wake up & smell the coffee, brutha'.— yobill626
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- Limbaugh, like other entertainers, only has one concern - how much money can he make to support his habits. If a liberal group offered him more money (and all the pills he wanted - anyone else would have a felony conviction for doctor-shopping to the degree he did) he would be so far left he would make Obama look like Rick Santorum. And yet some still take him as a serious political commentator. Sad.— what is truth?
- Under the circumstances RG, yes if it makes our country safer than yes I am for them taking any action necessary. Now before any of the liberals reading this post have a heart-attack---it was obvious that the gov't HAD to partake in these surveillance techniques secretly or it kind of ruins the element of surprise... If a terrorist knows they're being listened to than they're probably smart enough NOT to discuss terroristic activities. Unfortunately, the FISA laws were such that it wouldn't have been a problem to get a warrant to "legally" get authorization to wiretap these conversations. My theory is that unfortunately, the administration probably couldn't take the chance that the operation would get in the hands of the mainstream media because they've proven time after time that they can't be trusted with such important information... The funny thing is the liberal radicals in the media would have a problem with this operation whether it was gone about in the "right way" or not... It would have just given them something else to blame GWB for anyway... In closing, don't worry liberals---they don't care that you're having an intimate conversation with your boyfriend, girlfriend or mother... They're just worried about catching bad guys trying to hurt you and the boyfriend, girlfriend or mother that you're having the conversation with...— Delaware Vol
- Under the circumstances RG, yes if it makes our country safer than yes I am for them taking any action necessary. Now before any of the liberals reading this post have a heart-attack---it was obvious that the gov't HAD to partake in these surveillance techniques secretly or it kind of ruins the element of surprise... If a terrorist knows they're being listened to than they're probably smart enough NOT to discuss terroristic activities. Unfortunately, the FISA laws were such that it wouldn't have been a problem to get a warrant to "legally" get authorization to wiretap these conversations. My theory is that unfortunately, the administration probably couldn't take the chance that the operation would get in the hands of the mainstream media because they've proven time after time that they can't be trusted with such important information... The funny thing is the liberal radicals in the media would have a problem with this operation whether it was gone about in the "right way" or not... It would have just given them something else to blame GWB for anyway... In closing, don't worry liberals---they don't care that you're having an intimate conversation with your boyfriend, girlfriend or mother... They're just worried about catching bad guys trying to hurt you and the boyfriend, girlfriend or mother that you're having the conversation with...— Delaware Vol
- Sorry, double-clicked the submit button....— Delaware Vol
- Shemp was and still is vastley underrated...especially the episode where they try to marry him off to get their uncle's fortune. Classic stuff right there.
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- In order of funny-ness: Moe, Curly, Larry, Shemp, Joe, Curly Joe. I will entertain argument on the first three, but not the last three.— Patrick M
- I agree also..........— pat dietz
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- Curly joe and joe were terrible...Nothing funny about either one of those guys--and neither of them could carry Shemp's lunch.
- "These people do not like Obama- Hispanics- white working class- white women and generally logical people." - Latest WSJ poll has Obama up 62-28 among hispanics. Women? Obama up 51-38. Nationwide? Obama up 46-41. See, using facts the "generally logical people" can prove anything that's even remotely true. Unlike, say, "the genius" who just pulls things straight out of his derriere in his desperate attempt to make the world conform to his jaundiced worldview. Reality bites.— E.Plebnista
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- We all should be rejoicing this upcoming election. Whomever wins, Bush will be back to slugging margaritas in some suburban Dallas sports bar.— bobcitydoc
- JMC: I had forgotten about Curly Joe and Joe. Shemp, my apoligies for saying you were the least funniest of the Stooges. My brother in law has an old-school video projector and a bunch of old Three Stooges reels. Awesome way to watch them.— Captain Awesome
- Its pretty funny that all 6 Republicans in Philadelphia come to this blog to trash Bunch.— jlamb
- "...if it makes our country safer than yes I am for them taking any action necessary." . . . . . . . . . In other words Osama bin Laden, you win. Here are my freedoms. Have a nice day.
- "It seems contradictory that right-wing stalinists who would gladly and unquestioningly trust the government to use illegal wiretapping properly, to protect our 'girlfriends and mothers', because, well, they only care about doing the right thing and would NEVER use such power improperly or for political gain, also don't trust the same government to manage our broken health care system, because, well, you can't trust the government to work properly. Ah, the illogical mind of the conservative." It seems contradictory that left-wing stalinists who would gladly and unquestioningly trust the government to manage our health care system don't trust the same government to use wiretapping properly in order to protect our girlfriends and mothers, because, well, they don't care about doing the right thing and would use such power improperly or for political gain, because, well, you can't trust the government to work properly. Ah, the illogical mind of the liberal.— legatus
- Thanks LJL, you proved my point, superbly!!!— Delaware Vol
- "In other words Osama bin Laden, you win. Here are my freedoms. Have a nice day." Not only that, but we'll ramp up spending on things like the Iraq war and Homeland Security (color coded threats! gut feelings!) to ridiculous levels.— RG
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- If Obama wins, guess what....gas prices will not go down. Taxes, however will go up. If he decided to tax oil companies, the gas price will follow as well. It would be a step backwards, believe that. Obama's issues on the economy reward sloth, which is a plus for a good portion of the city.— Dave
- Legatus, that's rather a simplistic response. From a liberal viewpoint, there's nothing abhorrent in the principle that the federal government be vested with powers necessary to prevent terrorist attacks, no more than being vested with the power to insure everyone has access to medical care. The issue here is accountability. I wouldn't trust the government with health care unless it was accountable - that is, subject to congressional oversight, judicial redress, and freedom of information to the public and the press. Without accountability, you're right - you can't trust big government. It's the same for wiretapping. That's the purpose of FISA courts - striking a reasonable balance between exigenices, secrecy, and accountability. Without accountability to the public, government tends to be abusive, corrupt, and incompetent. You may not care about the abuse and corruption stuff, but since the important thing to you is the safety of your mother or girlfriend, you should be pretty damned concerned about the competence. If not, and you implicitly trust Bush, then you're a fool.
- Hey Will: I posted a comment to yesterday's blog about the quote from Limbaugh, which supported you by the way. In doing so, I called Limbaugh an a$$. However, whoever censors your blog saw fit not to let the post through. Since when is the rear end of a donkey considered obscene? Come on Will, your blog is better than that. Let the over the top censorship be done by the neocons. By the way great second post on Limbaugh. Also, how come you have been letting Rick Santorum off the hook for awhile?— AHiredGun
- jlamb. We also come here to help people like you, who trip over their keyboard in their clumsy efforts to be funny in front of their enlightened e-friends. For example, "its" is possessive ("The liberal double-parked its Subaru so it could run into the pharmacy for its fibromyalgia medication.") "It's" is a contraction, meaning "it is". ("It's pretty funny that all 6 Republicans in Philadelphia come to this blog to trash Bunch.") You're (meaning, "you are") welcome.— Patrick M
- Does anyone else (and not just this lone Republican) not think it passing strange that the two major-party candidates for President have already been pre-selected BEFORE any party conventions have been held? Where is the truth of democracy since Hillary has been already forced from the hunt on the slim vote of a few "super-delegates" and the silencing of the voters in MI and FL? Much was made over the legality of the last presidential election, so now perhaps this election will be decided by band-wagon polls - and we allow ourselves to be handed our candidates by fiat! Instead of insulting each other's political stance, why are we not cleaning up our own parties so that they will truly reflect DEMOcracy? It's not "just" the Republican Party that is to blame for "depriving citizens of their rights"; polls and statistics can be manipulated to reflect any desired agenda. One suspects the Democrat/liberals are being nicely led like sheep to a pre-determined conclusion, all the while accusing their Republican/conservative neighbours of the same thing. Forcing Hillary to surrender prior to the Convention was like saying Cinderella can't go to the ball...— CCH
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- I take great offense to the term "Stalinist," though it's bandied about freely these days. Rush might as well have called you a "Smallpoxist," because he suggested you would support the 20th century's single most brutal mass murderer. How can you take someone like that seriously? I think your question, and Obama's answer, both showed thoughtfulness. However, if Rush is correct, and you, Will Bunch, are a Stalinist, then we know what will happen this fall: Bush and Cheney will mysteriously disappear, along with their entire staffs, wives, children, and distant relatives. And then everyone who has ever declared himself or herself a right-winger or a dittohead will be rounded up, shot, and buried in unmarked mass graves. And if we can't find the right-wingers easily, we can rat out anyone we think might be a right-winger, and that person too will be shot. Is that what Rush Limbaugh thinks you have in mind, Will? If so, why is he not on a plane to Argentina?— anne johnson
- "Does anyone else (and not just this lone Republican) not think it passing strange that the two major-party candidates for President have already been pre-selected BEFORE any party conventions have been held?" . . . . . . . . . . . . I think it's strange that you just noticed this trend. It's only been, oh, how many years since we last saw a contested major-party convention? Anyway, I still think Huckabee's got a chance. It's only June, and Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June, remember?
- Rush is a conservative entertainer... but if Will Bunch had a radio show it would fail due to... LACK OF SPONSORS. Only welfare recipients and ignorant college students and professors would ever support a Will Bunch show. Teach your kids to be conservative - if you want to live in a socialistic/communistic environment with entitlements you didn't earn then go to Europe... your lifestyle will suffer.— BFlint
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- Hey RG, are you still looking for evidence of left-wing hate speech here on Attytood? You don't even need to leave this particular blog. It seems like Rush brings out the worst in the loony left.— ocjones
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- "If Obama wins, guess what....gas prices will not go down." In other words, Obama is the only true market-driven capitalist here, unlike "gas holiday" McCain (no longer need to mention Hillary the irrelevant). All the conservatives here should be applauding him.— what is truth?
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- On the subject of wiretapping and other infringements of individual civil liberties by the current administration, one of our founding fathers said it best: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin— srmzeus11
- Gas prices will not go down if either one is elected. Supply & Demand is a very simple principle, they have it and you want it, so they can charge what they want. It's not that they need to charge that much, it's that they can. I am a member of the military and it really appauls me that people I defended are cramming it up the gazoo to Americans. As far as Rush goes, republicans & conservatives all teach the same thing "intolerance". It's there way or the highway. Not the way a nation should be run.— paris4053
- who cares what the pill popping Rush thinks.— cusoraider
- Can not wait until the leftist liberals win all power. Gas prices wont matter because the people wont be allowed to buy because of the ridiculous trumped up charges of man made global warning. I have already apologized to my children for my generation letting this country fall into the hands of Liberals. Obama, if he wins and a Democrat Congress, will tax the working class right out of existence....— basheely
- Limbaugh's a rambling pill-head. Why does anyone listen?— p-diddy
- Hey B.flint - Bunch would have plenty of supporters and sponsors...I like your blanket stereotyping of the left as welfare recipients, and college students and professors, implying that the champions of industry and the power brokers must all be conservatives. You must be scared out of your small mind that more and more of the people with means continue to become disenchanted with the current administration and the policies of the GOP. Which is why you'll never understand the broad appeal of a candidate like Obama who doesn't just spout the party line and pander to his core base. But then, I wouldn't expect you to grasp any of this since you are obviously a conservative, and therefore a "person of means" ergo not an intellectual.— srmzeus11
- basheely - you're right. It's a worldwide conspiracy of scientists everywhere with there own secret agenda. They have fabricated all the evidence that points toward global warming, and at the same time suppressed and silenced anyone who has evidence to the contrary. Tell me, how can I visit the fantasy land you live in? It might be a nice diversion from the reality that the rest of us live in...— srmzeus11
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- Will The Shill can dish it out, but he can't take it.— MiddleNameHussein
- I listen to Rush and I regularly read Will's blog. I don't think either person is in the "mainstream" of American opinion. But, if I were FORCED to pick someone, I would definitely pick Rush as being much closer.— chrissmith
- you are wasting you're time even talking about that fat pillhead windbag. he and all the people who listen to him and believe the hateful bile that he spews are a lost cause and should be ignored at all costs. they are unreachable— Ryan
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- How did you conclude that Rush hates you will? Why cant you lefties distinguish between hating ideas, and hating the person him/herself?— E Plebnista
- "How did you conclude that Rush hates you will? Why cant you lefties distinguish between hating ideas, and hating the person him/herself?...." Classic. Limbaugh calls Will a Stalinist, a wacko, someone who "assaults the US and its government," and someone who "creates the notion in peoples' minds" (why do far-right loons think that someone like Bunch has the power to "create notions in peoples' minds," anyway?). But no. Limbaugh doesn't hate Will, only hates Will's ideas. Once a sycophant, always a sycophant, eh fake Pleeby?— Talking point sleuth
- Bunch's pathetic whining only bears out what Limbaugh says about him and his filthy ilk. Bunch is a third-rate columnist for a second-rate Marxist rag. Bunch loves America like O.J. loved Nicole.— zorba
- Dear wtfwjd? A comment RE: "Limbaugh is pure scum." Actually, the only pure scum out there are lefty losers like yourself. And, in keeping with that theme, a question: since we conservatives teach the importance of sexual self-control, is that so difficult you must resort to such simplistic counter-arguments?— George Tomezsko
- Rush is a disgrace representing himself as a republican..A real republican would never sacrafice our young brave troops for iraqis who if rush wasnt high on oxys would know didnt exactly treat us as liberators..But i guess when your zonked out on that many painkillers i could see how throwing bombs at us could be mistaken as flowers..You have to be on something good if you think 5 dollar gas,americans being beheaded and sacraficed for allah in iraq,a recession and unemplotyment skyrocketing,Americans being spyed on, is a good thing..These arent what republicans are all about rush..Were all about no war unless americans are in danger,small government and adhere to the constition especially when the enemy wants it expunged..— carouselesq
- Rush is a disgrace representing himself as a republican..A real republican would never sacrafice our young brave troops for iraqis who if rush wasnt high on oxys would know didnt exactly treat us as liberators..But i guess when your zonked out on that many painkillers i could see how throwing bombs at us could be mistaken as flowers..You have to be on something good if you think 5 dollar gas,americans being beheaded and sacraficed for allah in iraq,a recession and unemplotyment skyrocketing,Americans being spyed on, is a good thing..These arent what republicans are all about rush..Were all about no war unless americans are in danger,small government and adhere to the constition especially when the enemy wants it expunged..— carouselesq
- Rush is a disgrace representing himself as a republican..A real republican would never sacrafice our young brave troops for iraqis who if rush wasnt high on oxys would know didnt exactly treat us as liberators..But i guess when your zonked out on that many painkillers i could see how throwing bombs at us could be mistaken as flowers..You have to be on something good if you think 5 dollar gas,americans being beheaded and sacraficed for allah in iraq,a recession and unemplotyment skyrocketing,Americans being spyed on, is a good thing..These arent what republicans are all about rush..Were all about no war unless americans are in danger,small government and adhere to the constition especially when the enemy wants it expunged..— carouselesq
- But no. Limbaugh doesn't hate Will, only hates Will's ideas. Once a sycophant, always a sycophant, eh fake Pleeby?....Where did Limbaugh suggest tattoo-ing the arms of the president and vice president, or even will himself? As will has suggested be done to Bush and Cheney, and as has been done by Hitler to Jews? Would you rather be called a Stalinist for your opinions? Or be forceably tatoo-ed, as will suggested be done to Bush and Cheney, by people whos dislike for your ideas? What is your definition of hatred, oh sleuth-y one? Mine includes forceably tatooing people against their will.— E Plebnista
- Posted by E Plebnista 09:58 AM, 06/13/2008 But no. Limbaugh doesn't hate Will, only hates Will's ideas. Once a sycophant, always a sycophant, eh fake Pleeby?....Where did Limbaugh suggest tattoo-ing the arms of the president and vice president, or even will himself? As will has suggested be done to Bush and Cheney, and as has been done by Hitler to Jews? Would you rather be called a Stalinist for your opinions? Or be forceably tatoo-ed, as will suggested be done to Bush and Cheney, by people whos dislike for your ideas? What is your definition of hatred, oh sleuth-y one? Mine includes forceably tatooing people against their will. Ummmm, let me guess....you probably also believe in a literal, word by word interpretation of the Bible, right? Cause you obviously don't recognize hyperbole and allusion when you see it...If you think the tatooing suggestion was literal, you need help. It was metaphoric for the concept that Bush and Cheney appear to need constant reminders of what is and isn't allowable under the constitution - you know, like when a parent says to their kid "i've told you a hundred times to be home by midnight - I'm gonna tatoo it on your forehead so you remember" - that would hardly be cause to report them to child services for abuse, right?....sheesh....— srmzeus11
- I knew that would silence you, TPS.— E Plebnista
- that would hardly be cause to report them to child services for abuse, right?....sheesh....I see, so when it suits your purpose, you extend "understanding", when you dislike the person who is saying something, they are hateful, bile spitting, pill popping, loons? Hypocrite!— E Plebnista
- I never said any of those things about Limbaugh, and I extend understanding to everyone. The problem is, no amount of understanding can alter the stated intent of someone like Rush. Now despite the other personal attacks on Rush, pill popping is not open to debate. That is a perfectly valid criticism of Mr. Limbaugh.— srmzeus11
- I'm not in favor of tattooing the arms of Cheney or Bush. They are only following their warped agendas that never should have been allowed to implemented. Perhaps the people (including a few commenters on this blog) should have the letter "L" tatooed on their foreheads. Not for 'liberal' but for 'loser'. Their unabashed support for Cheney and Bush have made us all losers.— James TL
- Perhaps the people (including a few commenters on this blog) should have the letter "L" tatooed on their foreheads. Not for 'liberal' but for 'loser'. Their unabashed support for Cheney and Bush have made us all losers.....Is there no end to the caring and compassionate liberal(s) hypocrisy? You do realize in this day and age, threats of physically harming anybody can sometimes be prosecuted? Neither Bush nor Cheney is responsible for that affront to freedon of speech.— E Plebnista
- Dear nuffera: e-nuffeready! When are you and your fellow lefties going to grow up and realize that arguments ad hominem (that's name calling, in case, and I'm sure you didn't, know) are not considered intelligent or logical. And the same goes double for wtfwjd. I guess in your tiny, dull world, anyone who doesn't accept the left's agenda is guilty of "hate," whatever that means, and/or is "scum." Try again, kids, try again!— George Tomezsko
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