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Tuesday, May 20, 2008
Why Hillary lost

The race was essentially over on Oct. 10, 2002.

The rest is media blather.

Posted by Will Bunch @ 9:43 AM  Permalink | 49 comments
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Posted by SteveMG 10:18 AM, 05/20/2008
She lost because she's Hillary Clinton. If I had some sort of negative meter (like they do with focus groups) it would spike whenever I heard her name. The only think she ever had going for her was Bill, and he wasn't that great. From the day the Clintons left the White House it was clear that she assumed she would be the next Democratic President, and then they would be shoving Chelsea down our throats for 2016 or 2020. There was never any vision about where to lead America, it was all and only about becoming President.
Posted by pookie 10:33 AM, 05/20/2008
Simple she lost because of the media love affair with the Obama cult. nuff said
Posted by Malachy 10:39 AM, 05/20/2008
Steve MG. Genius that your are, pls show me ONE reputable source that demostrates where HC made it clear that she assumed she would be the next Demo nominee. Also, show me evidence, real not that which resides inside your amazingly clairvoyant skull, anything to back up your statement about Chelsea. I'd also like to suggest that you are the one with no vision. Did you not read or listen to anything HC had to say about her vision for the country? Probably not. You have nothing to offer other than the half-witted rantings of a babbling idiot. BC might not have been great, but compared to the Chimp he certainly is hall of fame material.
Posted by what is truth? 10:40 AM, 05/20/2008
This was foreshadowed right at the beginning of Bill's administration, when, in the health-care debacle, Hillary showed herself as a person who just didn't have the gift of persuasiveness or charisma that Bill had. Like him or not, you couldn't deny that Bill had that ability, that hard-to-define "it". "It" didn't make him universally popular by any means, but "it" was enough to allow him to thrive and survive where the average person would have been dragged down. Hillary just didn't have "it" then, not does she have "it" now. A lot of people (enough to elect him twice) could look at Bill and say, yeah he's got his faults, but so do we all, and I just LIKE him. Most people looked at Hillary and just didn't LIKE her. And thereby hangs a tale, and hanged (hung?) her run for President.
Posted by justablogger 10:45 AM, 05/20/2008
Will: Do you plan to post on Obama's 72 degree comment? I have not seen it on phillynews.com? Why is that?
Posted by Xi Jah 10:46 AM, 05/20/2008
Simple.Not liberal enough to appeal to the party zealots...Same dilemma Dems always face....If you're liberal enough to be nominated you are unelectable in the General...If you are moderate enough to be elected you can't seem to be nominated.
Posted by SteveMG 11:13 AM, 05/20/2008
Malachy, if you weren't in the state of denial you would remember that her Senate run in 2000 was the precursor to a Presidential run. Like she yearned to serve the people of New York. All it was was an open seat. As Chris Matthews would say, HA! If she really has a vision for the future (beyond her talking points) she would know that you can't get there by leveraging the minority, like we've seen over the last eight years. She's gone to a familiar playbook: Mobilize a base, and divede the middle. Of the three remaining candidates she's the weakest in the middle and she's a distant third. That's by design. When she realized it was too late to plan for a long primary run, she tried the easy road. That's not a leader, but to achieve your vision, you need to be a leader. And sometimes a leader has to tell you what you don't want to hear, and he has to have the guts to tell you anyway. But a gas tax holiday? Some profile in courage.
Posted by RG 11:17 AM, 05/20/2008
Malachy, I don't have hard proof, because she would obviously never have said that. however, there is tangible evidence. She ignored Obama's grassroots strength, her campaign burnt through money at the offset, instead of planning for a long run, some of her top advisors and managers had poor understandings of how states voted, i.e. Texas' primary plus caucus, they were poorly prepared to campaign in some of the later states.
Posted by Yankee Air Pirate 12 11:22 AM, 05/20/2008
I still think it's the pants suits.
Posted by montani semper liberi 11:24 AM, 05/20/2008
The reason for Hillary's failure (and Obama's success) can be summed up in one word - Bush.
Posted by db_cooper 11:36 AM, 05/20/2008
The latest Obama highlight: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/05/020554.php Obama in Portland, on Iran: "They don't pose a serious threat to us." Obama the next day in Montana, on Iran: "I've made it clear for years that the threat from Iran is grave." Looks like Barak is learning to out-Clinton a Clinton. No small feat.
Posted by pookie 11:37 AM, 05/20/2008
The reason for Hillary's failure (and Obama's success) can be summed up in one word - Bush. -------------------------------------------------------------------- THAN SHE SHOULD SHAVE IT
Posted by pookie 11:39 AM, 05/20/2008
How's that Obama tour of the 57 states conming along ?
Posted by RG 11:55 AM, 05/20/2008
DB, he made a distinction between the threat Iran poses to the US compared to that of the former Soviet Union. In the second quote, he is talking about the region and Israel, not the US. He's right, Iran is nowhere near the threat to us that the Soviet Union was. They have a limited Navy and Air Force, and a fraction of our military budget. Can they cause problems in that region? Most certainly. Can they cause problems for us at home? Not likely.
Posted by db_cooper 12:00 PM, 05/20/2008
Last I checked, we have a lot of troops stationed within range of a medium distance ballistic missile. And Iran could choke off close to half the world's oil. And they are run by a conspiracy-addled nutcase. Nah, no serious threat there to the US. Move along.
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