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Monday, May 12, 2008
There are some votes not worth getting

 

No doubt about it, Barack Obama made a mistake a few weeks back when said that voters in some small towns are "bitter" people who cling to guns and religion. In part, of course, he was wrong for exactly the reason that the critics stated, that it was a weak generalization and that many people go to church because of their affirmative love of God or own guns because of a rural passion for hunting.

But frankly, there's something else. He was also giving a few folks too much of a break in calling them "bitter" and trying to explain it away. Some American voters are not bitter -- but willfully and stubbornly ignorant. You want me to name names? OK, how about Leonard Simpson, a 67-year-old retired coalminer from Mingo County, West Va.:

“I heard that Obama is a Muslim and his wife’s an atheist,” said Mr Simpson, drawing on a cigarette outside the fire station in Williamson, a coalmining town of 3,400 people surrounded by lush wooded hillsides.

Mr. Simpson may be a perfectly good human being in other regards, but when it comes to this presidential election, in an age where information is readly available, even in rural West Virginia, he is willfully ignorant. You hear the words "personal responsibility" used in connection with issues like crime or the breakup of families, and I agree -- but aren't voters personally responsible for knowing facts?

So, too, with this man:

Josh Fry, a 24-year-old ambulance driver from Williamson, insisted he was not racist but said he would feel more comfortable with Mr McCain, the 71-year-old Vietnam war hero, in the White House. “I want someone who is a full-blooded American as president,” he said.

Tomorow night, Hillary Clinton is going to win a crushing victory in West Virginia, possibly by a margin as large as 70-30 percent. All the cable networks will give it wall-to-wall coverage, and you'll hear more blather about Obama's inability to "connect" with white working class voters -- and to suggest that lack of connectivity is somehow all Obama's fault. But when Clinton's vote total is swelled by the likes of people like this, do you honestly think there's something that Obama could be saying or doing that would get their support?

Look, whoever the next president is, he or she is going to need to fight for blue-collar, working class people, for retired coal miners and ambulance drivers who wants better access to health care. decent wages or job opportunities. I believe a candidate can win and then try to accomplish those things in 2008 -- to be a president for all Americans without pandering to the lowest instincts of some of them.

When the views of some voters like these are based on false conspiracy theories or just a distrust of an American solely because he doesn't look like them, we shouldn't criticize or blame that candidate for not getting their votes. In fact, it's a pretty powerful argument why America needs exactly the opposite -- a president with the ability to overcome such small mindedness, and unmask it for what it is.

Posted by Will Bunch @ 12:47 PM  Permalink | 83 comments
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Posted by b.atkinson 01:00 PM, 05/12/2008
"Some American voters are not bitter -- but willfully and stubbornly ignorant. You want me to name names?" will bunch? You regularly stereotype people who don't buy your agenda. If that isn't the definition of ignorant, I'm not sure what is.
Posted by George Tomezsko 01:02 PM, 05/12/2008
"Some American voters are not bitter -- but willfully and stubbornly ignorant." Posted like a true leftist elitist. Now for the translation: some American voters are not bitter -- but willfully and stubbornly oppose the soviet socialist agenda of Obama and company. In short, they stand up for the "quaint" notion that unborn children have a natrual right to life, for the "old-fashioned" view that marriage between a man and a woman is right and proper, and for the "unenlightened" thought that the free enterprise system is superior to all others in terms of wealth production.
Posted by RG 01:05 PM, 05/12/2008
As my buddy says, you can't fix stupid.
Posted by Molly 01:05 PM, 05/12/2008
Will- You have to understand this is a democracy( flawed as it may be) of thev people, by the people for the people. It is not by the literate , articulate, well educated ,etc. The misinformed , uninformed, and even plain wrong are people and their vote is as good as anyone else!
Posted by will 01:05 PM, 05/12/2008
George, you just gave a couple of excellent reasons why someone wouldn't vote for Obama -- because they disagree with him on abortion or economic policy. Those aren't the reasons these voters are giving to reporters, however.
Posted by will 01:11 PM, 05/12/2008
And Molly, I couldn't agree more -- I'm just saying a candidate shouldn't be criticized for not "connecting" with the uninformed.
Posted by Talking point sleuth 01:15 PM, 05/12/2008
Good point, b.at(ch), and Georgie. Because, you know, Josh is certainly above criticism for saying he's voting for McCain because he wants a full-blooded American as president, and Leonard certainly shouldn't be criticized for saying that Obama is a Muslim. I mean those statements clearly offer no proof that they could legitimately be called willfully stubborn or ignorant. Clearly, they could just be sycophantic Republicans who just like pretending they believe total nonsense, like Georgie and b.at(ch).
Posted by Molly 01:17 PM, 05/12/2008
Will- you hit a sore spot.I just love WV and particularly WVU. Lets go Mountaineers!
Posted by E Plebnista 01:18 PM, 05/12/2008
When the views of some voters like these are based on false conspiracy theories or just a distrust of an American solely because he doesn't look like them,.......Isnt that the same motivation that says Obama is the right candidate because he is "change", McCain is not the right one because he is "More of the same"? No details on what "change" means in terms of policies or ideas, just mindless platitudes. The thought put into both decisions is the same, that is to say, its all emotion, no real thought at all.
Posted by Captain Awesome 01:33 PM, 05/12/2008
The Electoral College was partially created as a check-and-balance system against the supidity of the people....But this isn't the first election where stupid people have been invited to participate in the voting process (look at the last two elections); it just seems like the Idiot Quotient has gone up exponentially in the last couple of years.
Posted by Greg S 01:45 PM, 05/12/2008
Its funny that everyone gets upset that people are trying to make Obama out to be a muslim. Surely its a scare tactic, but shouldnt we be more upset that the majority of people in this country equate muslim with evil. How sad is that. As unconstitutional as it is, I still think people should be required to take some sort of test to be able to vote. Call me an elitist if you want, but someone foolish enough to believe a smear campaign like "Obama is muslim" and who doesnt research the facts for themselves, and even worse wont vote for him simply because he is muslim, well he shouldnt be able to vote. Someone that ignorant isnt an American in my book, and people like that are the reason the rest of the world has begun to look down on us.
Posted by SteveMG 01:57 PM, 05/12/2008
A muslim doesn't have to be evil, it just has to sound foreign (as in not full blooded American). A couple of my freinds, who happen to be doctors, are not only convinced he's a muslim, but that he's also already had secret meetings with Hamas.
Posted by legatus 02:00 PM, 05/12/2008
"But when Clinton's vote total is swelled by the likes of people like this [the "ignorant"], do you honestly think there's something that Obama could be saying or doing that would get their support?" "I'm just saying a candidate shouldn't be criticized for not "connecting" with the uninformed. Posted by will" Your clear implication is that some of those who will vote for Clinton are ignorant and uniformed, while all of those who vote for Obama are necessarily intelligent and informed. Tell me Will, are ALL of the 92% of blacks who will vote for Obama "informed", or will they vote for him for reasons with which you would not necessarily agree? Should Hillary be criticized for not connecting with these folkls?
Posted by Sweatheart 02:01 PM, 05/12/2008
As an elitist, I believe that those West Virginians who are ignorant should be sterilized so they cannot reproduce and do further harm to our culture.
Posted by Sweatheart 02:03 PM, 05/12/2008
Also, I'll be that WV family that enslaved and sexually abused that young African-American woman are Hillary supporters.
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