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The fire next time

POSTED: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 5:25 PM

 

So unless you've been parked under a freeway overpass the last 15 minutes, you've probably heard that the Koran burning is off. Politically, it will be interesting to see if President Obama's strongly worded condemnation this morning had anything to do with the decision. I thought it was somewhat risky for our risk-adverse POTUS to do that, since the odds seemed more likely that this Florida nutjob would have ignored him

That's the thing -- this whole controversy was all about what they used to call back in the 1960s "a lone nut." To me, the real issue for America is can this be a turning point that will cause politicians who are not not nuts but merely manipulative -- yes, I am talking about possible presidential candidates Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin, among others -- to reconsider their encouragement of Islamophobia.

We can only hope.

Will Bunch @ 5:25 PM  Permalink | 142 comments
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:39 PM, 09/09/2010
    "they only decrease our support from the vast majority of the world's 1.5 billion Muslims who are not terrorists." sounds to me like you were claiming we had support from the vast majority of Muslims. Might want to take a writing course. "Oh, and contrary to your notion that all Muslims equal terrorists" Sure, show me the quote.
    RG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:39 PM, 09/09/2010
    ==]] Care to show some proof for that claim? [[== Also hilarious is when you run and hide when you ask for "proof" of something as obvious as whether or not AQ uses American "outrage" about the community center to be built on the Ground Zero Burlington Coat Factory site as a recruiting tool, and then run and hide when the proof if provided. What happened with that, anyway, RG? Remember, when you demanded "proof." And bridie said something to the effect of "proof, you want TPS to provide proof?", and then when I provided it, you and birdie took your ball and went home? You boyz are hilarious.
    Talking point sleuth
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:43 PM, 09/09/2010
    I'll take that as a no TPS. Another baseless claim by you.
    RG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:44 PM, 09/09/2010
    "One thing I have not seen, though, throughout the ME: Bible burning. They may hate us and burn our flag, but it appears they have more respect for our religions than we do theirs." - Thank goodness Mike doesn't see any Bible burning in the ME by those "tolerant" Islamics: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/03/somalia-islamic-supremacists-murder-christian-leader-torch-his-home.html
    PhillyTru
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:45 PM, 09/09/2010
    Actually TPS, i argued that one experts opinion not equal proof. Can you show that AQ is actively using mosque opposition as a recruiting tool and that it is working? that would be actual proof. didn't think so.
    RG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:45 PM, 09/09/2010
    Sorry - Ethiopia 28 million, favorability at 77%
    Talking point sleuth
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:47 PM, 09/09/2010
    ==]] Actually TPS, i argued that one experts opinion not equal proof. [[== Hilarious. First you claimed it was only a reporter. Now you're saying it was only one expert. A lie. And they provided evidence of websites where AQ and other jihadists were using the Park51 controversy as a recruiting tool. Evidence is evidence, RG.
    Talking point sleuth
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:48 PM, 09/09/2010
    And even IF the opposition of the mosque is a recruiting tool, who cares? So is our presence in afghanistan. Apparently, you'd rather have people suppress their opinions than change military policy.
    RG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:48 PM, 09/09/2010
    ==]] I'll take that as a no TPS. Another baseless claim by you. [[== Beautiful. You say I make a claim that I never made (that the majority of Muslims support the US), and then say that the claim I never made is baseless. Too funny, RG.
    Talking point sleuth
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:49 PM, 09/09/2010
    TPS I asked you to show thequote where i equated islam with terrorism. any time now.
    RG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:50 PM, 09/09/2010
    "they only decrease our support from the vast majority of the world's 1.5 billion Muslims" Yeah, you never claimed the vast majority of Muslims support us.
    RG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:50 PM, 09/09/2010
    ==]] And even IF the opposition of the mosque is a recruiting tool, who cares? [[== Bingo. Who cares if Islamic fundamentalists gain support in the larger Muslim community? Thanks, RG, for making your opinion that much more obvious. What's hilarious is that if you were a "lib," you'd have tons o' ARts lining up to call you a terrorism supporter for making that kind of statement - but since you're obsessed with Obama hatred, they'll give you a Mulligan.
    Talking point sleuth
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:53 PM, 09/09/2010
    "Who cares if Islamic fundamentalists gain support in the larger Muslim community" you claimed the overwhelming percentage of muslims aren't terrorists. A protest or book burning halfway across the globe will all the sudden make them support terrorists? try to keep you narrative straight. and please back up your claim that I equated islam with terrorism.
    RG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:55 PM, 09/09/2010
    --snip-- A two-year study by a group of academics on American Muslims and terrorism concluded that contemporary mosques are actually a deterrent to the spread of militant Islam and terrorism. The study was conducted by professors with Duke’s Sanford School of Public Policy and the University of North Carolina. It disclosed that many mosque leaders had put significant effort into countering extremism by building youth programs, sponsoring antiviolence forums and scrutinizing teachers and texts. “Our research suggests that initiatives that treat Muslim-Americans as part of the solution to this problem are far more likely to be successful,” said David Schanzer, one of the authors of the study. Co-author David Kurzman added, “Muslim-American communities have been active in preventing radicalization. This is one reason that Muslim-American terrorism has resulted in fewer than three dozen of the 136,000 murders committed in the United States since 9/11.” --snip--
    Talking point sleuth


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