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The DFH's are gone, but the controversy from Eschacon '08 lingers in Philly like the odor of patchouli

Our own Vance Lehmkuhl went to this weekend's Eschacon '08 blogger conference here in Philadelphia, so you didn't have to. He's got a special PhillyFeed podcast up on the conference, and

» READ MORE: you can listen to it here

. I'm listening to it right now, and just learned that I've been mispronouncing

» READ MORE: Eric Boehlert's

name all these years. Who knows what you might learn about the blogging libs? (Swifty's favorite cartoonist Ted Rall is in da house.)

Meanwhile, in the rapid response department, Jay Rosen is up quickly with a response to my Saturday post on liberal bloggers and their effort to counter the mainstream media's love affair with John McCain. Unlike my breathless from-the-scene report, Jay took an extra day and came up with some good ideas to advance the topic:

Something like that did happen. But I don't think Digby is right to see this relationship—which is deeply neurotic—as a fixed thing. It's more in motion, and about to come under a lot of stress. Some of it from within journalists themselves. This is why, though I await further reports, talk of some blogospheric war makes little sense to me. We're in a dynamic situation here. And one of the biggest unknowns is: will Obama match McCain in radical openness with the press?

Read the whole thing -- it's long, but worth it.