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Monday, July 14, 2008

You're going to hear a lot of blather over the next 2-3 days about how outrageous this New Yorker cover is -- from pro-Obama types and mainstream media fuddy-duddies, about how this is a shameless ploy to sell magazines, yadda, yadda, yadda. I disagree -- I think this is great satire (that's what New Yorker cartoons are, remember?) of how absurd our political discourse has become, showing just how ridiculous the Obama slurs are by taking them all the way over the top. Do you honestly think there's one American who was planning to vote for Obama who will see this, say "Oh my God, they're terrorists!," and change his or her vote?

If there is, God help us. 

Posted by Will Bunch @ 5:44 AM  Permalink | 94 comments
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Posted 06:37 AM, 07/14/2008
mike l
Ok, where are xi, oc, bon, etc who will believe that this cover is an actual depiction?
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Posted 07:56 AM, 07/14/2008
Yankee Air Pirate 12
I don't think anyone truly believes that Baraq Hussein Abdul-Mohsen ibn Obama is a terrorist.
Posted 08:25 AM, 07/14/2008
mookie
Obama says he used "poor phrasing" on Jerusalem ######## Reuters, by Staff WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said on Sunday he used "poor phrasing" in a speech supporting Jerusalem as the undivided capital of Israel. "You know, the truth is that this was an example where we had some poor phrasing in the speech. And we immediately tried to correct the interpretation that was given," he said in an interview aired on Sunday on CNN's "Fareed Zakaria -- GPS." ######## Like Roseanne Roseannadanna of Saturday Night Live - ''Newermind''.
Posted 08:27 AM, 07/14/2008
mookie
Another ACORN Scandal###### New York Post, by Staff ######## The folks at the far-left radical activist group ACORN are embroiled in a financial corruption and cover-up scandal that they managed to keep hidden from their donors and political partners for eight years. Now their deception has been uncovered for all to see. But is ACORN's leadership apologetic? Not in the slightest. "We did what we thought was right," said the group's president, Maude Hurd. ########## Back in the '80s and '90s, ACORN's tactics included trespassing, illegal seizure of private property, physical harassment, intimidation and outright extortion. ########################### When obama was part of the group he somehow managed to come up with $111,000 as a down payment for a condo while owing a very large student loan. I don't think his income exceded $50k. In short he did what he thought was right and embezzled the money
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Posted 08:30 AM, 07/14/2008
mookie
Here's why toes are turning blue at Shore############# Philadelphia Inquirer , by Jacqueline L. Urgo ################## ATLANTIC CITY - The temperatures may be steamy outside, but, baby, it's cold in the water. Just ask Melinda Castile, down the Shore for a week from Brooklyn, N.Y., and determined to go in the ocean no matter what the temperature. She bought a wetsuit."I know it looks weird, but too bad. The water's freezing," ######################## ''Global Warming'' indeed! Al Gore could use Shore to baptise his ardent followers @ $5000 PER WEEK TO RENT GARBAGE OVER PRICED SLUM.. si se puede
Posted 08:35 AM, 07/14/2008
jmc
Yeah, I always carry around the New Yorker in case I'm at a boring party and I need to liven things up. Their satire always brings the house down.
Posted 08:36 AM, 07/14/2008
mookie
How Chuck Schumer Caused the Second Largest Bank Failure in US History############ CNBC, by Jerry Bowyer###################### Federal officials aren’t supposed to cause bank runs. In fact, much of the New Deal bank regulatory apparatus was set up for the purpose of eliminating such panics. When FDR was hit with a massive set of bank runs shortly after taking office, he gave an address in order to calm terrified depositors, assuring them that the banks would reopen shortly, and that everything would be fine. But Chuck Schumer is no FDR. Perhaps this might help answer the question: Indymac has been under attack from the hard left. The Center for Responsible Lending issued an attack on Indymac within a few days of Schumer’s letter. CRL is part of a small army of left of center ‘research’ groups, community organizers, and public interest law firms who make their living accusing home lenders of racial redlining and predatory lending. On June 20th the Center accused Indymac of unfair practices regarding minority borrowers.################# gotta love those lawyers and garbage libs
Posted 08:45 AM, 07/14/2008
mookie
Michelle as "Professor" Angela Davis? Barack Hussein as Bobby Seale? ############### The problem? #############can't say his ears are big.. can't say he hangs out with anti american terorrists .. can't say he's a liberal..can't say he's a flipper..can't say his minister was his minister for 22 years. etc etc etc Sen. Dick Durbin (D-ill-mannered) compared US soldiers to Nazis. John Murtha (D-blowhard) compared Republican Congressmen to Nazis. Muslims hate critical cartoons about themselves. Somewhere Hillary is cackling.
Posted 09:00 AM, 07/14/2008
giamatt
Oh, I think there are PLENTY of people that will see this and think he's a terrorist. Don't underestimate the stupidity of anybody...
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Posted 09:17 AM, 07/14/2008
mookie
The gentle libs and leftist comment on Snow's death.############### . Because there obviously is no god, nor heaven and hell, I’ve always adhered to the idea that if you are saddned by the deaths of your friends and family, you should equally be gladdened by the deaths of people you hate. Tony Snow was a professional liar and willing member of the most notorious administration in this country’s history. I didn’t know him personally, but professionally he was a BS artist extraordinaire. This was the best cancer since Lee Atwater’s brain tumor. Submitted by: Shaun Mason 4:02 PM PDT, July 12, 2008
Posted 09:23 AM, 07/14/2008
MiddleNameHussein
If this cover was on The Weekly Standard, Will "The Shill" Bunch and his Husseiniac buddies would be going apesh*t. But since it's on a liberal mag, it's just fine - in fact, I'm betting it is a coordinated effort between the Obama campaign and the liberal magazine - that's the Democrat-Media Complex at work.
Posted 09:35 AM, 07/14/2008
bpearl
Will, I agree with giamatt - there are plenty of people who might have voted for him who will look at this and think again. Can you imagine a cover satirizing McCain by depicting him as an exhausted old baffoon, or whatever? That wouldn't happen, right, so why is this okay?
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Posted 09:40 AM, 07/14/2008
Politburo
I don't think I agree with the theory that this will actually change anyone's mind. The people buying into the muslim BS are already way off the reservation. The only issue I have with the cover is that the New Yorker is making themselves part of the campaign for a publicity stunt.
Posted 09:45 AM, 07/14/2008
LJL
Wow, more "liberal" media baselessly shilling for Obama......Right?
Posted 09:49 AM, 07/14/2008
didderbops
I think it was P.T. Barnum, or perhaps H.L. Mencken, who said that nobody ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the American people. Put this in a mass frightwinger e-mail without the context of satire and you better believe they'll think it to be the truth.
Posted 09:56 AM, 07/14/2008
SBVFT Contributor
The New Yorker article included an excerpt from an Obama essay 1 week after 9/11. He called for understanding — lots and lots of it. You know, because if only those 19 poverty-stricken hijackers only had a decent job, 9/11 would have never happened. Right......."We must also engage, however, in the more difficult task of understanding the sources of such madness. The essence of this tragedy, it seems to me, derives from a fundamental absence of empathy on the part of the attackers: an inability to imagine, or connect with, the humanity and suffering of others. Such a failure of empathy, such numbness to the pain of a child or the desperation of a parent, is not innate; nor, history tells us, is it unique to a particular culture, religion, or ethnicity. It may find expression in a particular brand of violence, and may be channeled by particular demagogues or fanatics. Most often, though, it grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair. We will have to make sure, despite our rage, that any U.S. military action takes into account the lives of innocent civilians abroad. We will have to be unwavering in opposing bigotry or discrimination directed against neighbors and friends of Middle Eastern descent. Finally, we will have to devote far more attention to the monumental task of raising the hopes and prospects of embittered children across the globe—children not just in the Middle East, but also in Africa, Asia, Latin America, Eastern Europe and within our own shores.".....Rove was right.
Posted 10:08 AM, 07/14/2008
mookie
""""Can you imagine a cover satirizing McCain by depicting him as an exhausted old baffoon, or whatever""" every friggen night on tv by leno and letterman same old jokes about age..
Posted 10:12 AM, 07/14/2008
mookie
"""Wow, more "liberal" media baselessly shilling for Obama......Right?"""############################### I KNOW that this will come as a surprise to but the ed. of the mag said today on MSNBC the obamathon channel.. that the article and cartoon were meant to help and dispose of myth's about the obamamessiah.. they love the free media help it's giving him. So if you believe in the idea that the "new yorker" is a far right source might we suggest you read a page or 2
Posted 10:15 AM, 07/14/2008
mookie
MEDIA HYPE + CARTOON + OBAMAMESSIAH = LOAFS & FISH FOR THE STADIUM SPEECH
Posted 10:21 AM, 07/14/2008
Mutt
This image is ported right out of Ann Coulter's conscious mind and shows just how loony and desperate the right has become. They've even been reduced to attacking in comments in blogs. I'm laughing.
Posted 10:27 AM, 07/14/2008
shoeshineboy
Terrible. Atrocious. How could they? How dare they? Big deal. Everyone got their panties in a bunch (pardon the term) with the Lebron James/King Kong cover a few months back, since it portrayed him as *gasp* a large ape. Much to do about nothing, like most things. Shine on.
Posted 10:36 AM, 07/14/2008
SBVFT Contributor
I hear BHO has dug up Leni Riefenstahl to help with the theatrics for his Denver rally - sorry - "speech". Considering the mindless fawning & adulation the Dem masses & the DNC-controlled media have been heaping on their Messiah, I really don't think any Nuremberg like imagery will be necessary.
Posted 10:42 AM, 07/14/2008
Fredclaims
My suggestion for next month's cover: McSame in a wheelchair being admitted to the Alzheimer's center of the old folk's home. Graet satire but (DUH) will never happen.
Posted 10:58 AM, 07/14/2008
Politburo
SBVFT I see you conveniently snipped the start of that paragraph. Here it is: "We need to step up security at our airports. We must reexamine the effectiveness of our intelligence networks. And we must be resolute in identifying the perpetrators of these heinous acts and dismantling their organizations of destruction."
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Posted 11:03 AM, 07/14/2008
philly66
Cover or not he was a no vote in my camp a long time ago! Doesn't have enough experience on the Hill! The DEM's can't agree on anything. If you want a John Street Administration on a National Scale- Then Vote Obama!
Posted 11:08 AM, 07/14/2008
legatus
"McSame in a wheelchair being admitted to the Alzheimer's center of the old folk's home. Graet satire but (DUH) will never happen." Exactly! The MSM would never present an ~obvious~ satire of McCain. They would rather present outright lies about him. (Eg. the Vicki Iseman "story" in NYT....the twisting of McCain's statements regarding the possibility of having toops remain safely in Iraq for a long period of time, much like Korea or Germany, to make it appear that he is willing to stay at war for 100 years....and many more like these two.)
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Posted 11:26 AM, 07/14/2008
bon
Many liberals, and Obama supporters in particular, think that middle America consists of a bunch of idiots. This is the "What's the Matter with Kansas" argument all over again. The elitists at The New Yorker (I am allowed to call the editors at The New Yorker elitists... right?) just think everyone else is stupid. It is simply not true. I know many Obama supporters cannot fathom this, but millions of Americans do not agree with Obama. Many find him dishonest, inexperienced and opportunistic. This is not the result of slander and slur, but a careful examination of his short, undistinguished record. (PS. Larry Johnson, Bob Beckel and Hillary Clinton's campaign are the ones who have indulged in these pointless attacks on Obama. Card carrying Democrats, all of them. There is no GOP boogeyman, no matter how much some may want there to be.)
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Posted 12:03 PM, 07/14/2008
beeron
looks like Will's got his panties in a bunch again. Better go let off some steam by trashing a dead guy and working on a book nobody will read.
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Posted 12:42 PM, 07/14/2008
LutherBrixton
7 years after 9.11, Osama Bin Laden's free & victorious, Bush boasts he "doesn't think about" Bin Laden, meanwhile, Bush is affectionately called "Bandar Bush" by the Saudi royals he literally walks hand-in-hand with, the Saudi royals who funded the 9.11 attacks, and which Bush would sooner kill his mother than ever do anything to the Saudis who attacked us, so of course, it's .... the Democrat from Chicago that's in cahoots with the terrorists! Not Bandar Bush! ONLY in the US could the media get so many lazy half-wits to think Bush is "patrotic" -- 7 YEARS after 9.11!!!
Posted 12:46 PM, 07/14/2008
Talking point sleuth
A true classic, Bon. ----))))))) First, you falsely claim that "many liberals" and "Obama supporters in particular, think that middle America consists of a bunch of idiots." Really? What is your evidence of that? If you actually bothered to read "What's the Matter With Kansas," you would find that Rich's point is a criticism of the Democratic Party for not differentiating itself from the Republican party on economic issues. Secondly, in your zeal to slander millions of Americans, you don't seem to realize that you, in fact, reveal your elitism by claiming some deep insight that they "can't fathom." And third, after having once before making a false claim about "the vast majority of Americans" considering Obama to be less honest than McCain (in fact the opposite is true), you again suggest the same. Once again, bon, if you have such a high regard for Americans, how do you account for the fact that more of them doubt McCain's honesty than Obama's? Hmmm. Why do you have such a low opinion of Americans, bon?
Posted 12:47 PM, 07/14/2008
Paul S
Yes, God help us. People are that stupid. the uninformed will see it at the newsstand or bookstore and freak out.
Posted 01:09 PM, 07/14/2008
MattPSU
None of you liberals like Will complained when the NAACP put out that hateful and absurd commercial comparing George W. to the guy who dragged a black man to his death. That was one of the worst things I've ever seen in politics. Yet, when something like this comes out, liberals cry foul. Maybe the guy above is right, perhaps this was put out there by the liberal media themselves to drum up support for Obama.
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Posted 01:13 PM, 07/14/2008
James TL
THe only reason right wingers label Obama as a terrorist is to slander him and scare stupid people into not voting for him. They KNOW he's not a terrorist! I have no problem with the people who say that Obama doesn't have enough experience to be president but labeling this man a terrorist is just wrong. I'd rather have a person who isn't an experienced 'Washington Insider' at this point. If he wins the presidency Obama will be fully briefed on foreign policy long before he takes office in January. We need to get away from politics as usual. John McCain wants to continue this countries' current failures. This is just not acceptable. It's a funny cartoon but the message in it is a joke. No politician can rise to the level of presumptive Democratic candidate and be a terrorist. The right wingers don't like his politics and therefore will do anything to slander him. Is this all you guys have?
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Posted 01:24 PM, 07/14/2008
ahartle
I appreciate the satire and think it's great for the audience its intended for. But think about the people in W.Va. primaries or many other states including New York and Pa., I'm sure where thousands of people still think Obama is Muslim. This will gain huge media attention and people who otherwise have no idea about the New Yorker will see this and take it as truth not satire. Remember all the people who thought Jonathan Swift really meant people should eat their Irish babies. That same stupidity still exists.
Posted 01:29 PM, 07/14/2008
James TL
Perhaps 'label' is too strong a word. But such 'luminaries' such as Limbaugh, Hannity and O' Reilly (excuse me while I throw up) have alluded to Obama being a terrorist or 'Unamerican" or "soft of terror" for months now. These are lies but you right wingers don't care. It meets your general criteria so you do your best to believe them. Don't think it's going to work this time guys.
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Posted 01:33 PM, 07/14/2008
legatus
I didn't see the left-wingers getting worked up over the ads comparing Bush to Hitler, in order to "slander him" in the last election.
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Posted 01:48 PM, 07/14/2008
longshanks
Wow, Neocons are becoming something of a hate group. They Hate blacks, the poor, gays, Latinos, Mexicans, Muslims, Catholics, Jews, Europeans, the French, Arabs, and the list goes on. So who does that leave? White, middle and upper class. Sounds like the Nazi party.
Posted 01:58 PM, 07/14/2008
Captain Awesome
"Why is the Democrat party worried about the Messiah being labeled a Muslim?" Because people who deal in the politics of fear (note that I'm not pointing the finger at just one party here) are trying to convince American citizens that people who worship Allah are all terrorists. It really is brillians--albeit shady--politics: if Obama sits back and doesn't respond, then people start thinking maybe he really IS a Muslim. And if he speaks out against it, people will ask why he afraid of being associated with Muslims. Personally, I think there is enough fodder to attack Obama's candidacy without having to go down that road.
Posted 02:00 PM, 07/14/2008
E Plebnista
Sounds as though the New Yorker hit a little too close to home. Why would Obama not "get" the absurdity? No sense of humor?.....the lady doth protest too much.
Posted 02:16 PM, 07/14/2008
Politburo
"None of you liberals like Will complained when the NAACP put out that hateful and absurd commercial comparing George W. to the guy who dragged a black man to his death." --- For reference, this ad was in 2000. I don't recall it being a big issue then.. but that was 8 years ago, so who knows. The ad appears to be a bit much for me, but from what I can find, I don't think it compared Bush with the people who dragged Byrd. The message of the ad is delivered by Byrd's daughter, who says, in part, "So when Governor George W. Bush refused to support hate-crime legislation, it was like my father was killed all over again." ------ As for the Hitler ads, typical ignorance of the facts.. MoveOn removed the user-submitted ads that mentioned Hitler.
Posted 02:20 PM, 07/14/2008
James TL
I thought that was deplorable legatus. Hitler is beyond a doubt the biggest villan America has ever faced. Bush isn't nearly as bad. These kinds of slanders should be taken with a grain of salt. Unless a person is part of left or right wing fringe group or is undeniably stupid, they won't believe such garbage. Xi Jah..... my bad.... I don't waste time listening or watching slander monkies like Limbaugh and Hannity. I don't have the time and besides, I already know what they are going to say. They will spin everything to their point of view just like you always do. I don't visit websites like Daily Kos either. We need moderate thinking in this country, not this kind of fringe thinking. I wish we could all get together and work for the betterment of this country but I'd probably be wasting my time. It seems we'd rather destroy ourselves than work together.
Posted 02:29 PM, 07/14/2008
montani semper liberi
"The MSM would never present an ~obvious~ satire of McCain. They would rather present outright lies about him." . . . . . . . Well, when those lies come right from McCain's mouth, what are they supposed to do? I'm still stunned that McCain would substitute the Steelers for the Packers in recalling one of the best anecdotes about his POW years, one that he's repeated for years without deviation. If he wasn't lying, there's only one rational explanation. Dementia.
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Posted 02:59 PM, 07/14/2008
MattPSU
RE:Politburo While the ad did not call GWB a murderer directly, it did show the pickup truck and the chain and had a voiceover by that young lady, who compared the murder of her father with the decision to not support hate crime legislation. The inference was very clear. It was one of the biggest hit pieces of all time. Yes, it was 8 years ago and there was a big outcry from Republicans at the time. GWB refused to meet with the NAACP for years after that. But at the time the NAACP and most democrats took no issue with the ad. Point is, that was from a major Dem group and no one took issue with it.
Posted 03:00 PM, 07/14/2008
GC_Jon
Here's an interesting article regarding it from MediaMatters: http://mediamatters.org/items/200807140002?f=h_top Key excerpt: "As of 10:07 a.m. ET on July 14, the most popular option in the poll -- selected by 60 percent of WND respondents -- was "The image isn't too far from the dangerous truth about the Obama family." The second-most popular option was "Funny, because there's some truth in it," which was selected by 11 percent of respondents." Do we really need to fan these flames any more?
Posted 03:03 PM, 07/14/2008
Patrick M
Liberals are so conditioned to whine, that they don't take the time to realize that their messiah is being defended.
Posted 03:07 PM, 07/14/2008
SBVFT Contributor
"If he wasn't lying, there's only one rational explanation. Dementia" If McCain has dementia, then Obama is high on crack: BHO (3/4/2007): "This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama" Barack Obama - DOB: August 4, 1961. March on Selma: March 7, 1965.
Posted 03:08 PM, 07/14/2008
Gibba Mang
Perhaps next month they will have a similar lampoon of McCain's poor plane flying skills and subsequent ratting on his fellow POWs while his criminal wife pops pills and uses her money to escape prosecution.
Posted 03:12 PM, 07/14/2008
legatus
"As for the Hitler ads, typical ignorance of the facts.. MoveOn removed the user-submitted ads that mentioned Hitler." Wow, you sure are one to talk about ignorance of the facts. The facts are that these ads were poart of a contest run by MoveOn. MoveOn's posted rules for the contest said it would not "post anything that would be inappropriate for television". The fact that the organization allowed two ads with the Hitler comparison shows that MoveOn.org thought the images were acceptable for television. It wasn't until a GOP outcry, and the fact that the contest had since ended that MoveOn took the ads down.
Posted 03:16 PM, 07/14/2008
legatus
"Hitler is beyond a doubt the biggest villan America has ever faced. Bush isn't nearly as bad. These kinds of slanders should be taken with a grain of salt." I'm sure that you didn't do it deliberately, but you too have now slandered Bush, by calling him a villian (though not the biggest one America has ever faced) and comparing him to Hitler (though he's not nearly as bad as the paperhanger).
Posted 03:18 PM, 07/14/2008
msmame
It's just a silly satire. I'm a supporter of his and I'm neither swayed nor offended by this at all. He's a public figure, he should be used to satire. I'm guessing, because of rules regarding equal access/time for all candidates, the next cover will mock McCain. mookie, that should keep you busy for days. And people who allow cartoons to tell them how to vote shouldn't be allowed to vote - that's just scary.
Posted 03:20 PM, 07/14/2008
legatus
"Well, when those lies come right from McCain's mouth, what are they supposed to do? I'm still stunned that McCain would substitute the Steelers for the Packers in recalling one of the best anecdotes about his POW years, one that he's repeated for years without deviation. If he wasn't lying, there's only one rational explanation. Dementia." You're right msl...McCain's lie about the Packers was deplorable. Of course, this is a non sequitor concerning my point that the media doesn't do satire about McCain, it creates outright lies. I'm sure that you see the distinction...right?
Posted 03:20 PM, 07/14/2008
SBVFT Contributor
I see nothing wrong with this cartoon. All good satire is rooted in reality. You see, it was all a lie that Obama’s close associated Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers are anti-American. It’s a slanderous myth that Obama’s associates and even his church have promoted terrorists and terrorist causes. And of course Mr. Obama never wore an Islamic outfit. Nor did he and Michele ever do a "fist bump." Nor has his campaign been endorsed by Hamas and other terrorists. These were fantasies dreamt up by lunatic rightwingers. Right.
Posted 03:37 PM, 07/14/2008
Politburo
"Point is, that was from a major Dem group and no one took issue with it." ---- But you said in your own post that the GOP took offense.. so which is it? I pasted the exact words that the daughter said.. and as I said while I think the ad is over the top, I don't think there is some sort of inference that GWB is a lyncher. To find that meaning in the ad requires several leaps of logic. ------ Legatus actually it was the ADL and other Jewish groups opposition that led to the takedown of the ads. MoveOn would never kowtow to GOP demands. Furthermore, treating a stated policy as reality is one awfully large assumption. We simply don't know what kind of review was done.
Posted 03:44 PM, 07/14/2008
James TL
THat's not what I meant legatus. Hitler was a mad man. I disagree with Bush but I don't think he's a villan or evil. I don't think he's been good for this country but he's not even close to Hitler. Cheney perhaps but not Bush who is simple minded (similar to me I guess) while I believe Cheney knows exactly what's going on and does border on evil minded thinking. Not to the level of Hitler but his policies have gotten thousands of good soldiers killed based on a lie, and it's still going on today. Cheney doesn't have what is best for ALL Americans in mind.
Posted 03:47 PM, 07/14/2008
ET
The satire was aimed strictly at the "talk amongst yourself crowd". Who else reads that mag? They get a few laughs, Obama gets tons of free campaign coverage, and those not voting for Obama for legitimate reasons are made to racially, religiously, and sexually prejudiced.
Posted 03:53 PM, 07/14/2008
E Plebnista
Michele is the tough one in this picture, Obama is....effete. Another first lady for the (D's) that wears the pants.
Posted 04:04 PM, 07/14/2008
ET
I can't believe no one has come up with a caption for the Obama cartoon. How about Michelle saying, "Now I'm REALLY Proud to be an adult American"
Posted 04:13 PM, 07/14/2008
legatus
"MoveOn would never kowtow to GOP demands. Furthermore, treating a stated policy as reality is one awfully large assumption. We simply don't know what kind of review was done." So, you're saying that the GOP outcry had no effect AND we don't know what kind of review was done (with the implication that MoveOn possibly didn't know that the offensive ads had been posted.) Well which is it?....if they refused to kowtow to the GOP, they certainly must've known the ads existed. OTOH, if they agreed that the ads were despicable, then your contention that they would never kowtow to the GOP means that even in the face of a situation with which they agreed with the GOP assessment, they still would refuse to take the ads down...simply because the GOP found them deplorable.
Posted 04:21 PM, 07/14/2008
ET
Michelle: "Dat's what Iz talkin bout Bama. If you went on the Fox News channel this might not have happened. Thank Allah for MSNBC."
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Posted 05:55 PM, 07/14/2008
montani semper liberi
"If McCain has dementia, then Obama is high on crack.." . . . . . Swifty, if you're comparing Mccain's "Steelers" comment with Obama's Selma remarks, then are you saying McCain was pandering too? That would be much easier to accept than McCain lacking the mental faculties required of office.
Posted 06:16 PM, 07/14/2008
Bush Limbaugh
Let me tell you something. That Obama is a terrorist. If he were to get elected the first thing he woould do is order a Jihad against the United States of America. I say we just keep Bush in office forever. So what if terms limits are in the constitution. That never stopped this administration before. Bush and Cheney speak with God.
Posted 06:59 PM, 07/14/2008
rambo6310
I do think he is a indirect component of Terrorist. Just look at those guys he is hanging out with in Chicago. Those Extreme Leftist with Anti-American Sentiment. Thank god he isn't from Philadelphia he is an embarrassment to this country.
Posted 07:56 PM, 07/14/2008
jez
The problem with that cover is that by exagerating - having his wife holding a gun, having Osama above the mantle - it wants the viewer to think that it's ridiculous. Guess what - he IS anti-American. His wife IS an America hater. The two of them and their ilk are a disgrace to the American progressive movement. History will show how the failed candicacy of Barack Hussein Obama gave liberalism a bad name for a generation.
Posted 09:14 PM, 07/14/2008
ET
The New Yorker will do a satire piece on Muhammad when Jesus Christ becomes their savior.
Posted 10:14 PM, 07/14/2008
Damgoodbodies
"Guess what - he IS anti-American. His wife IS an America hater." So "jez" what do you base your IDIOTIC statements on? These people are what the American dream is supposed to be about but people like you only want to see America in your own simple light. Anyone who doesn't fit into your image of a "good American" is labeled a terrorist, anti-American, America hater and all the other BS. So I guess a "good American" would be someone like "W" or Cheney. Same guys who have us stuck in a horrible war, the economy in the toilet, gas prices out the wazzu and the mortgage mortgage industry in shambles. Yeah, but those guys will go down in history as great Americans. Right?
Posted 02:02 AM, 07/15/2008
yobill626
Maybe it would have been more effective as satire if it was placed on an artist's board with Rush or Sean sitting on a stool having just completed the portrait. I think the New Yorker was just trying to create a stir --- & overshot it a bit. Apparently, they've had some subscription cancellations because of it. Good for them...
Posted 04:47 AM, 07/15/2008
irishdave3
Nevermind? I think(ouch, that hurts) it was Emily Leitela...if it's not one thing it's another...
Posted 06:06 AM, 07/15/2008
truckz32
I wonder if cartoon showing MR.&MRS.MCCAIN receiving membership cards from some racist group(aryon nation-kkk-neo-nazi)in THE OVAL OFFICE with a "confederate flag and nazi picture of Hitler hanging on the wall be looked at as just a joke!Like always the media outlets will claim ignorance the hurtful impact,but behind closed doors a success for rating attention generated.Reminds me of the golf magazine with the "noose" on the cover to create thought on why it cause great pain to BLACK people even though it's not used in society today.Don't tell me to lighten-up or it's joke,unless you can put yourself in place of the person(s)targeted by these jokes and feel no pain...you must already be void of feeling human compassion all mankind.
Posted 09:50 AM, 07/15/2008
Politburo
legatus - Your dichotomy is false. MoveOn did kowtow, but not to the GOP. It was the ADL and other groups that MoveOn listened to, that was my point (a very minor distinction, at that).
Posted 10:26 AM, 07/15/2008
legatus
Other groups may have protested the ads on MoveOn, but so did the GOP. According to published reports, MoveOn "argued that the RNC is making this an issue and it should not be held responsible for what was submitted to their contest by a private citizen, particularly since MoveOn itself apparently disavowed the ad". So, while Jewish organizations may have also expressed outrage, I don't see how you determine that it was pressure from the ADL that did the trick, but pressure from the GOP had no impact. Apparently you believe that leaders of MoveOn are such shameful hacks that, had the ADL not complained, they wouldn't have disassociated themselves from the ad for fear of giving the appearance of kowtowing to the GOP......even though they agreed with the GOP's stance. Of course, you may actually be correct about that. Doesn't say much for a leading liberal group, does it.
Posted 10:31 AM, 07/15/2008
doo dah man
We all know Obama is not a muslim extremist. But he sure does overreact to political cartoons like a muslim extremist. If you read the Inquirer's editorial page - and I know the actual readers of the Inq is less and less, partly because Satullo and the rest detest 50% of the people in this country - you see over the top political cartoons on an almost daily basis. Really, who cares? If this cartoon stops you from voting for BO, you weren't voting for him anyway. And, frankly, you just don't come across New Yorker issues very much in everyday life - except when the MSM plasters the cover all over the place for 48 hours. Really, if you dont' subscribe to it, when was the last time you actually saw a real live New Yorker magazine?
Posted 10:50 AM, 07/15/2008
ocjones
"Maybe it would have been more effective as satire if it was placed on an artist's board with Rush or Sean sitting on a stool having just completed the portrait."--------Yo bill, there would be a problem with that. You see there's no record, whatsoever of either Rush or Sean portraying Barack as a terrorist.
Posted 11:08 AM, 07/15/2008
montani semper liberi
"You see there's no record, whatsoever of either Rush or Sean portraying Barack as a terrorist." . . . . . For the record, Rush and Sean are themselves terrorist accomplices.
Posted 11:49 AM, 07/15/2008
legatus
msl...is this simply your opinion, or do you have some type of objective support for your assertion?
Posted 01:00 PM, 07/15/2008
yobill626
ocjones --- No, but my point is for the picture to work as satire, it needed to show a well known Conservative "exaggerator" putting forth these lies about the Obamas. Certainly, neither Rush nor Sean has directly stated some or all of these questions about the Obamas (they're too smart for that), but they seem to have done everything possible to keep these prejudices alive. Now it seems like you are splitting hairs like a Clinton.
Posted 02:15 PM, 07/15/2008
George Tomezsko
I love the controversy much, much, much more than the cover. It's keeping the Obamamessiah on the defensive in all 57 state capitols and is pushing his radical leftist agenda into the background!
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