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Wednesday, April 23, 2008

 Before you go crazy about Hillary Clinton's big momentum on display here in Pa, just a few things to consider:

1) The race for the Democratic nomination is a 50-state competition, and going into it, you would have handicapped Pa. as one of the worst of those 50 for Barack Obama, maybe the worst. His weakest voting blocs have included the elderly and union households. Pennsylvania is the third-oldest state in the nation, the most heavily unionized, and one of the most economically distressed.

Given the demographics, which is a bigger surprise? That Obama once trailed here by 20 points, or that in the end he lost by only 10 points. Bill Clinton didn't need to win Utah to become president, John Street didn't need to win Port Richmond to become mayor of Philadelphia. Any Obama strategy for the nomination would aim to get the most delegates and votes nationwide -- knowing that you would surely lose Pennsylvania.

Which he did. As expected. And, yes, he still leads in delegates and votes -- all because HE won the states he was expected to win, and needed to win.

2) Obama came to Pennsylvania after a weak showing in a state with similar demographics, Ohio. And after his loss in the Buckeye State, Obama really was hit with the kitchen sink, most of it not new activity but dirt-digging by political opponents in both parties into his past associations, including former pastor Jeremiah Wright. In spite of that, exit polling suggests that Obama actually dramatically improved his standing with the voters that cost him Ohio, most notably voters over age 60 and white males in general. But as noted in 1), Pa. has A LOT of voters over 60, more than Ohio.

3) Clinton's main argument as pertains to Pennsylvania is that it's a November battleground state, and that she'd be a better fall candidate here than Obama. Perhaps -- she'd almost certainly run a little stronger in the Pittsburgh area. But most experts think the state will be won or lost in the Philadelphia suburbs, where McCain is also more popular than the typical Republican. And Obama won those Philadelphia suburbs with more than 60 percent of the vote (at least according to the exit poll). UPDATE: That previous sentence proves not to be correct -- I'd strikethrough if I knew how to do that with the new blogging software. Anyway, it looks like Clinton won a narrow victory in the four suburban counties, fueled by a big margin in Bucks. Not all suburban counties are created equal -- Bucks is mostly blue-collar Clinton countrt from Levittown on south, while Chester County, which Obama won, is affluent and exurban

I think too often we get caught up the day-to-day, whether it's a heated debate or a new gaffe or a bowling score of 37. Truth is, the story line in Pennsylvania was cast long before 4/22/08.

Posted by Will Bunch @ 1:08 AM  Permalink | 50 comments
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Posted 01:32 AM, 04/23/2008
JohnSmithP
If 110,000 voters switched to Barack Obama from Hillary Clinton within one month's time - I would say the momentum is still in Barack Obama's favor.
Posted 01:58 AM, 04/23/2008
dmoran
Why is it that when Bill Clinton makes similar observations about his wife's chances in South Carolina, it is called playing the race card, but when Obama's losses are discussed, it is just a normal demographics discussion?
Posted 02:02 AM, 04/23/2008
Toni
Maybe if he spent more money he would have gotten those votes.
Posted 02:27 AM, 04/23/2008
flavious27
dmoran, because you can't just state the obvious and let the media let it be that. Obama is leading because his home state voted for him and african americans in the south voted for him. Hil won traditional democratic states and obama won over liberals in states that aren't.
Posted 02:35 AM, 04/23/2008
flavious27
dmoran, because you can't just state the obvious and let the media let it be that. Obama is leading because his home state voted for him and african americans in the south voted for him. Hil won traditional democratic states and obama won over liberals in states that aren't. 100k voters john? that is less than 5% not 10% and the polls with a 20% lead aren't accurate. if voters in philly opened their eyes and voted, obama would have lost by alot more.
Posted 02:39 AM, 04/23/2008
yobill626
Certainly Barack had more money, but Clinton had a 15 year foundation & every big politico in the State (except for Casey, Fattah & Murphy). She definitely hit the number she needed to hit (10 points), but its a far cry from where she was 2 months ago. She's doing better than "trading baskets", but it won't be enough.
Posted 02:39 AM, 04/23/2008
salvitt
It is difficult to see who is the bigger loser -- you or Obama. You are both in shock and denial. At least he's running for office. You are supposed to be a journalist, instead of a fawning cheerleader.
Posted 02:41 AM, 04/23/2008
birdflewover
Apparently Hillary won the working class vote and Obama the upper class vote, in PA, I don't get it, it should be the converse, Obama will do much more for the working class as Hillary will protect the upper class...why do we Americans vote against our own interests???
Posted 03:48 AM, 04/23/2008
roadrunner
dmoran, that's a great analogy. And it's true!
Posted 04:57 AM, 04/23/2008
nurseratchet
Obama was given a lesson by working class Americans. You cannot buy an election. Obama is just not in touch with the majority of the middle class. God, country and apple pie trump latte's every time. The kids I excuse, they are young and idealistic. Hillary has the experience and grit this country needs to overcome our failing economy, increase liveable-wage jobs, end the war in Iraq, provide universal health-care and make college more affordable. She is a fighter and we need a fighter!
Posted 06:45 AM, 04/23/2008
CB
It's fortunate that Obama's many negatives did not come out before the PA primary. If they had, it's quite probable that he would not have the lead in delagates he currently enjoys and quite possible that he would not be in the lead at all. That's why the Super Delagates can be so important, and why they should be open to voting the way they feel they should and not follow the general voting trends. Jefferson was right, the general population does not have the smarts to vote for right candidate, and a more knowledgeable group is needed to control the masses. Also in play will be the disenfranchisement of both Michigan and Florida. The Democratic party basically told both states to jump off a cliff, they weren't relavant. How's that going to play in the general election?
Posted 07:40 AM, 04/23/2008
montani semper liberi
"She is a fighter and we need a fighter!"................. Right. If only she had fought the corporate interests to make universal health care a reality when she had the chance, and had fought Bush's plans to invade Iraq when she had the chance, maybe she wouldn't have to be fighting so hard now to just get traction in a battle she effectively lost two months ago when the fight was still meaningful.
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Posted 07:52 AM, 04/23/2008
Bender
So exit polls show him taking both Bucks and Mont by 60/40 margins... but he loses by that much? As a bucks county resident I would like to know who manufactured my electronic voting machine THAT GIVES NO PAPER TRAIL and who they donate to.
Posted 07:52 AM, 04/23/2008
Bender
So exit polls show him taking both Bucks and Mont by 60/40 margins... but he loses by that much? As a bucks county resident I would like to know who manufactured my electronic voting machine THAT GIVES NO PAPER TRAIL and who they donate to.
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