UPDATED: Joe Lieberman's healthcare plan for America
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UPDATED: Joe Lieberman's healthcare plan for America
UPDATE: Some 68 percent of his constituents in Connecticut favor the public option, but Joe Lieberman is instead siding with his campaign contributors: $2,395,369 from the health sector and $1,033,402 from the insurance industry during his undistinguished Senate career. Researchers at the Harvard Medical School say that 45,000 Americans die from lack of insurance coverage every year, so extending that to Connecticut's roughly 3.5 million people, that would be about 1,000 every year just in the Nutmeg State alone. I wish Lieberman could be forced to explain his position to the families of every blessed one of the deceased.
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You missed the following from the study, Ellsworth: --snip-- Uninsurance is associated with mortality. The strength of that association appears similar to that from a study that evaluated data from the mid-1980s, despite changes in medical therapeutics and the demography of the uninsured since that time.Numerous investigators have found an association between uninsurance and death.5–14 The Institute of Medicine (IOM) estimated that 18314 Americans aged between 25 and 64 years die annually because of lack of health insurance, comparable to deaths because of diabetes, stroke, or homicide in 2001 among persons aged 25 to 64 years.4 The IOM estimate was largely based on a single study by Franks et al Point-in-time uninsurance is associated with subsequent uninsurance. Intermittent insurance coverage is common and accelerates the decline in health among middle-aged persons. Among the nearelderly, point-in-time uninsurance was associated with significant decline in overall health relative to those with private insurance. In fact, the variables included in our main survival analysis may inappropriately diminish the relationship between insurance and death. For example, poor physician- rated health, poor self-rated health, and unemployment may result from medically preventable conditions. Indeed, earlier analyses suggest that the true effect of uninsurance is likely larger than that measured in multivariate models— Talking point sleuth- Oh, and btw, Ellsworth - I just love the "analysis" that controlling for variables (such as comparing smokers with insurance with smokers without insurance) is a "flaw" in the study. LOL! You guys are hilarious.— Talking point sleuth
- Ellsworth, you don't know a damn thing about statistics and neither does the idiotic Radiovice page you've pasted. What's "sifting?" What's a valid sample size? If you don't know, shut up and let the grownups talk.— DiTurno
- FL Rep Allan Grayson, meet Willy "fun" Bunch. You two are hysterical together— camtheman
- I find it hilarious that Will is outraged at Lieberman ignoring his constituents (BTW he links to a Daily Kos poll to back the claim) when on a national level the public option unfavorable rating is significantly higher than its favorable rating. So Will, does it only bother when a Senator ignores his constituents to the detriment of Obama's leftist agenda or do you have the integrity to point out that Congress as a whole is currently ignoring the will of the people? And the Daily Kos as your source? Yikes. Try a reputable polling organization. You'll seem more credible.— pjsz1261
"And, yet, tens of millions who have health insurance die every year, too. Explain that one." . . . . Sticker shock?- "I find it hilarious that Will is outraged at Lieberman ignoring his constituents (BTW he links to a Daily Kos poll to back the claim) when on a national level the public option unfavorable rating is significantly higher than its favorable rating."..........October favorable ratings according to PollingReport.com: USAToday/Gallup (10/16-19) 50%; CNN/OpinionResearch (10/16-18) 61%; ABC/WaPo (10/15-18) 57%; KaiserFamilyFoundation (10/5-18) 57%; CBSNews (10/5-8) 61%; Ipsos/McClatchy (10/1-5) 53%; Quinnipiac (9/29-10/5) 61%; PewResearch (9/30-10/4) 55%.................So, where's your link, pjsz?
- ----}}}}} Try a reputable polling organization. You'll seem more credible. {{{{{----- LOL! Oh, those wacky, wacky Republicans.— Talking point sleuth
- Awww, TPS and DiTurno...didums I hurt your feewings?-CLIP-At no time did the original researchers or the single-payer activists who piggy-backed off their data ever verify whether the supposed casualties of America’s callous health care system had insurance or not. In fact, here is what the report actually says: “Our study has several limitations,” the authors concede. The survey data they used “assessed health insurance at a single point in time and did not validate self-reported insurance status. We were unable to measure the effect of gaining or losing coverage after the interview.” Himmelstein et al. simply assumed that point-in-time uninsurance translates into perpetual uninsurance – and that any health calamities that result can and must be blamed on being uninsured. The single-payer advocate-authors also conceded in their study limitations section that “earlier population-based surveys that did validate insurance status found that between 7% and 11% of those initially recorded as being uninsured were misclassified. If present, such misclassification might dilute the true effect of uninsurance in our sample.” To boil it all down in plain English: The single-payer scientists had no way of assessing whether the survey participants received insurance coverage between the time they answered the questionnaires and the time they died. They had no way of assessing whether the deaths could have been averted with health insurance coverage. A significant portion of those classified as “uninsured” may not have even been uninsured, based on past studies that actually did verify insurance status. But the Himmelstein team just took the rate of uninsurance from the original study (3.3 percent), applied it to census data, and voila: more than 44,000 Americans are dying from lack of insurance.-CLIP-http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/the-bogus-death-statistic-that-won%e2%80%99t-die/— Ellsworth
- -CLIP-The single-payer advocate-authors also conceded in their study limitations section that “earlier population-based surveys that did validate insurance status found that between 7% and 11% of those initially recorded as being uninsured were misclassified. If present, such misclassification might dilute the true effect of uninsurance in our sample.”-CLIP-http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/the-bogus-death-statistic-that-won%e2%80%99t-die/— Ellsworth
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batty bill at, You and your Beck loving friends cannot stop this. As often as you are on the wrong side of history, your inanane rhetoric and distortions are falling flat with the American people. Oh, and your being called up from the basement, I think your waffles are ready.— Les Ismore- "'And, yet, tens of millions who have health insurance die every year, too. Explain that one.' . . . . Sticker shock?" ROTFL! msl, we usually disagree about...well, about everything. But I think you win the thread with that one!— legatus
- slowboat..I am guessing you would depend on the magic of the free market for all of our veterans? Thanks but no thanks.— Les Ismore
If I have the numbers right those 1,000 estimated deaths are roughly the same as the 1,000 actual deaths so far in the U.S. from H1N1. Of course, the government wasn't going to let these death happens because they had a plan to provide immunizations - immunizations that are currently only 10% of what was promised (BTW when you say you'll give 10 immunizations but only have 1 to give out does that result in "rationing" healthcare). Yeah, I really want the government in charge of healthcare!! Bunch any plans to have Obama go explain how his administration's incompetence was partly responsible for the deaths of these actual people to the 1,000 families that have lost loved ones - especially the 100 families who lost children??— bird11
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