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Wednesday, August 20, 2008

 

I was going to write about other stuff, but a persistent theme that I see in the comments at Attytood and elsewhere in the sphere o' blogs and other media hangouts is that because the John Edwards sex scandal broke in the National Enquirer and because some of the facts or allegations about Edwards and his GF Rielle Hunter were out there when he was still running for president (i.e., relevant) that the mainstream media -- out of its liberal bias or whatever -- covered up for the liberal Edwards.

I don't think it's unreasonable to raise that issue, but I don't think too many of people making that argument have really thought the whole thing through -- including how a story like that is exposed in the real world.

Remember, some facts about John Edwards and Rielle Hunter were out there in late 2007 and earlier this year, and were reported in various mainstream media outlets, including the fact that the Edwards campaign has paid more than $100,000 to this woman that Edwards had met in a hotel bar - that would be Hunter -- and even that a supermarket tabloid -- that would be the Enquirer -- was alleging the two of them were doing the dirty deed. These facts were out there -- most politically engaged people all seemed to know all about them this winter.

What was unreported -- or "covered up," as some say -- was that the two really were having an affair and that Edwards had lied when asked about it. So if you wanted a mainstream news org to expose that story -- instead of the Enquirer, which ultimately did -- how would that happen?

The only sources that the mainstream media could truly use to confirm such a story would be people with direct knowledge of the affair, which would be a small circle of people that included Edwards, his wife, Hunter, and close friends of either of the two star-crossed lovers. With Edwards still dreaming of the White House and with Hunter drawing financial suupport, apparently, from the Edwards team, what motivation would there be for any of those people to freely confirm or volunteer the information about the Edwards/Hunter affair?

None, quite frankly -- certainly not in the short term, before time creates new wounds, as it usually does.

OK, but the National Enquirer was still able to get the story, so why couldn't the New York Times?

The answer is money, time, and manpower. Money doesn't seem to be a direct factor here, as I haven't seen any allegations that the Enquirer paid sources on this particular story, although supermarket tabloids have done that in the past. That's one of the few ways that people in the small closed circle who can confirm a sexual affair would ever talk about it -- but the traditional media doesn't pay for stories, period.

In this case, the Enquirer seems to have relied more on the time and manpower factor. In other words, it means a) assigning reporters and photographers to stake out the key players, mainly Edwards and Hunter, for months upon end, hoping to capture some kind of secret meeting -- which is what they finally did. It also means b) reporters spending months getting to know every possible friend and acquaintance of Hunter and Edwards who might somehow know something about the affair and -- probably after weeks of wooing -- might divulge something.

So for the Washington Post or the LA Times or whoever to have published the story before the Enquirer, they would have had to do what the Enquirer did -- assigned a team of full-time reporters to do nothing else but probe the sex life of John Edwards, even long after he left the center stage of the presidential race. (Because remember, the Enquirer had to keep dogging Edwards for six or so more months after he left the race to get this story.)

As you may have heard, most large American newspapers have been reducing their staffs and cutting back on the very expensive job of covering a 50-state election in 2008. They have already been criticized -- and rightfully so -- for focusing too much on the horserace and not so much on where the candidates stand on issues ranging from health care to education to foreign policy. To be clear, anyone making the argument that the media "covered up" for John Edwards is really saying that big papers or news orgs like the New York Times or ABC or Newsweek should take more reporters away from covering these issues that voters care about, and instead have them hanging around hotel lobbies to look for a failed candidate with an oversized sex drive.

There's a question of priorities. How is it that the Enquirer can assign a team of people to expose a presidential sex scandal, and a big newspaper or TV network can't? You probably know this, but when it comes to American politics, sex scandals are the ONLY story that the Enquirer and its rivals ever cover. It doesn't have to worry that it's ignoring how the candidates would respond to the crisis in Georgia, for example, because it doesn't care! Traditional news orgs do, however.

In fact, every campaign has had some tawdry sex-related allegation reported about it this year. Vanity Fair reported that aides to Bill Clinton were worried about his extracurricular activities; an underground network of sleazeballs urged mainstream reporters for months to report a sex-and-drugs allegation about Barack Obama from a totally unreliable source, and the New York Times reported that John McCain was so close to an attractive young lobbyist named Vicki Iseman that aides were worried it looked like the two were having an affair.

So, if you believe that the media "covered up" for John Edwards, then you also believe that major American news organizations should take reporters away from the campaign trail or pull them off stories about where the candidates stand on the gasoline crisis or Afghanistan so they can spend months -- and that's how long it takes -- to definitively prove whether McCain was having sex with Vicki Iseman, or to look again into the discredited charges made against Obama, or -- even though Hillary Clinton has dropped out of the race (I think) -- prove that Bill is still having sexual relations with those women.

If you think the media is covering up for Edwards but should not aggressively be probing these stories, including the sex life of John McCain, then you are being a hypocrite.

What's the solution? Maybe there should be a news organization that makes the sex life of politicians its No. 1 priority, so that other reporters can be left alone to do real journalism. Oh, wait, there already is such a publication! It's called the National Enquirer. They spend thousands on their tawdry probes, and when they're done, the traditional media can judge whether the findings are actually newsworthy (as they were with Edwards) or not. In other words, for better or worse, that is exactly the system we have in place now.

In a bizarre and often uncomfortable way, that system seems to actually work.  

Posted by Will Bunch @ 10:30 AM  Permalink | 59 comments
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Posted 04:27 PM, 08/21/2008
Politburo
Our rewrites are at odds with each other because you have an agenda, the Legatus Plan, as described above.
Posted 04:16 PM, 08/21/2008
legatus
So you would agree that, even though they come from the exact same paragraph, your version of the rewrite and my version of the rewrite are at odds with each other. Hmmm...that sounds suspiciously like internal inconsistency. I can't believe that you'll continue this ad nauseum, rather than simply say "oops, I made a mistake in trying to make this story into something that it clearly is not." What I find harder to believe is that there is anyone who thinks this story was about some aide's concerns, and was not simply a hit piece done by the NYT on McCain.
Posted 04:00 PM, 08/21/2008
Politburo
You're still seriously pursuing this? I wonder why you didn't you rewrite my comment this way: "jmc the McCain lobbying story was not false.. however.. those concerns.. are unverified accounts.. and shouldn't have been published"
Posted 03:46 PM, 08/21/2008
legatus
"jmc the McCain lobbying story was not false....However...those concerns...are still basically rumors" DEfinition of Rumor: 1.) gossip (usually a mixture of truth and untruth) passed around by word of mouth. 2.) A rumor or rumour (see spelling differences), is an unverified account or explanation of events circulating from person to person and pertaining to an object, event, or issue in public concern. 3.) A piece of information of questionable accuracy, from no known reliable source.

Apparently Politburo believes that the statement "jmc the McCain lobbying story was not false....However...those concerns...are still basically a mixture of truth and untruth, an unverified account of a piece of information of questionable accuracy, from no known reliable source" is not internally inconsistent. Ok 'buro....whatever floats your boat. Definition of Inconsistency: 1.) See Politburo.

Posted 03:17 PM, 08/21/2008
Politburo
The Legatus Plan: Try to create inconsistencies where they don't exist...
Posted 02:49 PM, 08/21/2008
legatus
The Politburo Doctrine: Inconsistencies in corrections to others' comments shall not be pointed out...
Posted 02:26 PM, 08/21/2008
Politburo
The Legatus Doctrine: Inaccuracies in comments are not allowed to be corrected...
Posted 02:06 PM, 08/21/2008
legatus
Of course, left unstated is the fact that I "attacked you" (if by "attacking you" you mean "pointing out that you're talking out of both sides of your mouth in your attack of jmc's point") in defense of jmc. If you hadn't done that, the whole thing would never have happened.
Posted 01:24 PM, 08/21/2008
Politburo
I initially responded to you because you attacked me. If you hadn't done that, the whole thing would never have happened.
Posted 01:19 PM, 08/21/2008
legatus
There is no issue, yet you've responded on at least six occasions? And since there is no issue, what is it that you were saying that we should agree to disagree about? Btw, since you "pointed out a minor error in jmc's post", you clearly TOOK ISSUE with it. As an aside: Translation-> Silly hypothetical = Good analogy that I refuse to answer.
Posted 01:07 PM, 08/21/2008
Politburo
I pointed out a minor error in jmc's comment while completely agreeing with the sentiment expressed, that was all. You could not accept that and continue to try and create some sort of issue, but there just isn't one. Trying to bait me with a silly hypothetical won't work. Good day.
Posted 12:56 PM, 08/21/2008
legatus
Oh, ~I'm~ trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. I suppose ~you~ haven't been as engaged in the discussion as I have? ~You~ weren't the one who instigated this entire sub-thread by trying to take jmc to task for his remarks concerning this "molehill"? Give me a break! (Oh, btw...your evasion of my question re Obama/Wright is duly noted.)
Posted 12:36 PM, 08/21/2008
Politburo
I haven't changed anything, you're just trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. To what end, I dunno.. Good day.
Posted 12:09 PM, 08/21/2008
legatus
"Not a day goes by that I don't find myself in agreement with a rational and sane conservative on some issue." So, either you don't consider me to be a "rational and sane conservative on [this] issue", or you think that "agree to disagree" connotes agreement with a conservative. (Clearly you actually agree with me on this issue as you've been continually moderating your comments. Now you say that it is "technically incorrect to call the story false", earlier you said the story was 100% true. If there were a story saying that Obama's advisors were concerned about the candidate's relationship with Rev. Wright, it might be technically correct. If the story went on to strongly imply (to the point of leaving little doubt in the reader's mind), without any supporting evidence, that Obama shares Wright's views lock, stock and barrel (God D*mn America, 911 conspiracies, et. al.), would it still be technically incorrect to call the story false?
Posted 11:39 AM, 08/21/2008
Politburo
This all started with a comment made above. I believe it is technically incorrect to say the story is false, but that is a very minor quibble in the grand scheme of things. Not a day goes by that I don't find myself in agreement with a rational and sane conservative on some issue.
Posted 11:06 AM, 08/21/2008
legatus
"It doesn't say anything as to the veracity of the story," Well of course it does, or you'd have no problem with the NYT printing the story. "...and it's not lying by omission." Good point...I used a poor choice of words. It's lying by implication, since they led you to believe something without overtly stating it and without presenting any evidence. I guess we'll have to, as you say, agree to disagree...since you seem to be trying to take both sides of the issue. (i.e. [paraphrased] the story is 100% true but shouldn't have been printed since it was all rumor.) Is it really that hard for you to simply agree (without the "to disagree" part) with someone of different ideological stripes?
Posted 10:50 AM, 08/21/2008
Politburo
It doesn't say anything as to the veracity of the story, and it's not lying by omission. Lying by omission would be if they had proof there was no affair, but didn't include that in the article (for this exercise, ignore the fact that one cannot prove a negative). In any case, we all agree that the story shouldn't have been published the way it was, so this discussion is pretty pointless. Let's agree to disagree.
Posted 10:35 AM, 08/21/2008
legatus
"legatus - I'm not defending the publication of the article. All I'm saying is that it's incorrect to say the article was false." Then why make the statement that I am "deliberately missing the point...the story...is 100% true." Are you ~really~ trying to say that the lack of good faith in reporting...the suggestion of an affair (without evidence)...essentially lying by ommission...does not impact the veracity of the story?
Posted 09:48 AM, 08/21/2008
Politburo
legatus - I'm not defending the publication of the article. All I'm saying is that it's incorrect to say the article was false. The ombudsman's column does not support the claim that the article was false, just that it shouldn't have been published the way it was written.. "The pity of it is that, without the sex, The Times was on to a good story."--- batch obviously I didn't write the article. You need every little thing pointed out to you, don't you?
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Posted 08:55 AM, 08/21/2008
legatus
"The story was not that McCain was having an affair. The story was that some McCain advisers had concerns about McCain's association with Ms. Iseman, and that is 100% true." Give me a break...I don't think that you even believe this nonsense that you're spouting, as is evidenced by your previous comment, "they are still basically rumors, and shouldn't have been fit to print." In any case, the NYT itself disagrees with you. Its own ombudsman strongly criticized the newspaper's insinuations. "The newspaper found itself in the uncomfortable position of being the story as much as publishing the story, in large part because, although it raised one of the most toxic subjects in politics -- sex -- it offered readers no proof that McCain and (Vicki) Iseman had a romance," public editor Clark Hoyte wrote in the Times' online edition. In an article signed by four reporters that raised more backlash against the daily than the candidate, the Times Thursday cited unnamed McCain advisers who, "convinced the relationship had become romantic," had asked Iseman to keep away from the senator. "The article was notable for what it did not say," wrote Hoyte. "It did not say what convinced the advisers that there was a romance. "It did not make clear what McCain was admitting when he acknowledged behaving inappropriately -- an affair or just an association with a lobbyist that could look bad," he said of alleged comments McCain made to his advisers. Hoyt also criticized Times executive editor Bill Keller's explanation that the article's main thrust was not the alleged affair but the political favors the Republican bestowed on a lobbyist, which Hoyt said "ignored the scarlet elephant in the room." "A newspaper cannot begin a story about the all-but-certain Republican presidential nominee with the suggestion of an extramarital affair and expect readers to focus on anything other than what most of them did. ... The stakes are just too big."
Posted 08:45 AM, 08/21/2008
GreyHippie
Not just Westchester, archimedes, everyone on the Main Line seemed to know it too. In fact, there was a restaurant in Gulph Mills (it's now Savona) where they used to meet for romantic dinners while she lived with Mummy in Wynnewood that saw their dinner crowd spike whenever Rocky was reported to be in the philly area. Kinda like a floor show.
Posted 10:19 PM, 08/20/2008
Archimedes
I'm with greyhippie above. When Nelson R. and Happy were going at it while Rockefeller was married to someone else, everyone in Westchester seemed to know all the details--but none of that appeared in any paper, even the National Enquirer, that I know about. MSM used to look away at private foibles. I hate to admit, but I think the situation today is better; we probably should know if McCain runs around on his sick wife (before Cindy) or if Edwards runs around on his sick wife (in remission, he tells us) or if any of the politicians makes a habit of cheating on a wife. Gives us a better idea of what we are dealing with. On the other hand, cheating does not seem to interfere with a successful presidency--see Eisenhower and FDR as example, while moral probity (Hoover perhaps and certainly Jimmy Carter) does not guarantee greatness.
Posted 08:49 PM, 08/20/2008
Politburo
"That's right jmc, the story wasn't false, it's just that it wasn't necessarily true. (Whew, and I thought that the twists and turns done by the gymnasts in Beijing looked difficult......)" --- No, you're just deliberately missing the point. The story was not that McCain was having an affair. The story was that some McCain advisers had concerns about McCain's association with Ms. Iseman, and that is 100% true. Some advisers did have concerns.
Posted 04:36 PM, 08/20/2008
langx
McCain On Reinstituting A Military Draft: %u2018I Don’t Disagree’ Today at a townhall meeting, an audience member praised Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) for his vow to “follow bin Laden to the gates of hell.” After a long question about veterans’ care, the questioner said she believed we needed to reinstate the draft, to which McCain seemed to readily agree: QUESTIONER: If we don’t reenact the draft, I don’t think we’ll have anyone to chase Bin Laden to the gates of hell. [Appaluse] MCCAIN: Ma’am, let me say that I don’t disagree with anything you said.
Posted 04:20 PM, 08/20/2008
legatus
"Now it's homophobic to observe that our culture is homophobic?" Ohhhh....now it's "our culture" that's homophobic, and not just "righties". Are liberals part of "our culture" too?
Posted 04:17 PM, 08/20/2008
montani semper liberi
"Saying it is a "bigger deal" to have a homosexual affair then a heterosexual affair is homophobic. Yes." . . . . . Now it's homophobic to observe that our culture is homophobic? Ouch. You righties are taking this newfound "tolerance" to new extremes, aren't you?
Posted 03:57 PM, 08/20/2008
Gibba Mang
Unless Edwards represents you, why does anyone really care?
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Posted 03:40 PM, 08/20/2008
bon
pagoda: Saying it is a "bigger deal" to have a homosexual affair then a heterosexual affair is homophobic. Yes. (MSL: You all can attempt to emulate the intolerant, insane Coulter if you like. You can have that woman.)
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Posted 03:05 PM, 08/20/2008
montani semper liberi
BTW, it's refreshing to see our right wing friends have learned tolerance, even if it's only because the Enquirer has debunked Ann Coulter's claims regarding Edwards' manhood.
Posted 02:58 PM, 08/20/2008
pagoda
Oh, and thanks for making me aware of my hatred. And all this time I thought I only hated bigoted homophobic pushy-religious-freak Republicans- I guess I was also hating myself. And that's one to grow on. (correction)
Posted 02:57 PM, 08/20/2008
pagoda
Oh, and thanks for making me aware of my hatred. And all this time I thought I only hated bigoted homophobic pushy-religious-freak Republicans- I guess I was also hating myself. And that's one to gow on.
Posted 02:53 PM, 08/20/2008
pagoda
Not quite sure why this is homophobic. The point is your party obsesses about the sins of homosexuality- many want and have tried to make it illegal. So when one of your own gets caught holding the bag, (so to speak) it becomes newsworthy. I'm sure you understand this and just thought it would be cheeky to call me homophobic.
Posted 02:52 PM, 08/20/2008
montani semper liberi
If McCain's own staff was concerned that McCain was too close to a Washington lobbyist, I'd say that's relevant news in a presidential race. It certainly struck a nerve here - JMC goes beyond declaring it unproven......he actually declares it FALSE without showing us the exculpatory evidence, a sure sign of desperation.
Posted 02:43 PM, 08/20/2008
montani semper liberi
"The McCain-lobbyist story appeared on the FRONT PAGE of the NYT and was FALSE." . . . . Is that what the National Enquirer said?
Posted 02:37 PM, 08/20/2008
bon
pagoda: A liberal saying something both homophobic and incorrect. That's what we call a twofer! (JMC: So, to be clear, you consider the story to be true until it is proven false?)
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Posted 02:23 PM, 08/20/2008
legatus
"jmc the McCain lobbying story was not false....However...those concerns...are still basically rumors, and shouldn't have been fit to print." That's right jmc, the story wasn't false, it's just that it wasn't necessarily true. (Whew, and I thought that the twists and turns done by the gymnasts in Beijing looked difficult......)
Posted 02:05 PM, 08/20/2008
Talking Point Slueth
who cares, McCain is now ahead by five points in the latest poll, Reminds me of the story of the tortoise and the hare, or maybe Dukakis in 88....O-bu-bye Obama.
Posted 02:05 PM, 08/20/2008
Politburo
Simplistic thinking is what the GOP thrives on.. so to them, the media did indeed 'cover up'. ----- jmc the McCain lobbying story was not false, as it never explicitly said McCain was having an affair. The story was that some McCain advisers had concerns about his relationship with the woman. However, while those concerns did come from advisers, they are still basically rumors, and shouldn't have been fit to print.
Posted 01:42 PM, 08/20/2008
jmc
The McCain-lobbyist story appeared on the FRONT PAGE of the NYT and was FALSE. For God sake, John Edwards was a candidate for President, and a former VP candidate. If they thought in 07 there was something funny going on, they had a duty to investigate it so voters could make an informed decision. The NYT doesn't have the time and manpower? This is a huge cop-out , Will. We have to rely on the Enquirer to get the truth now because all the NYT has time and manpower for is lies about Republicans. I think your post tells us all we need to know about liberal bias in the media.
Posted 01:33 PM, 08/20/2008
pagoda
Hey last Repub- The reason why it's a bigger story when it's a Repub is because they are usually with men or boys, and besides, it's your party that vilified(s) sex!!! gay or straight.
Posted 12:02 PM, 08/20/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Funny isn't it? When democrats have scandals like this (Edwards Spitzer) the liberals say no big deal, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. But it front page news for months if it's a republican. How's the taste of your own medicine liberals?
Posted 12:00 PM, 08/20/2008
montani semper liberi
"I bet if the Enquirer had stories about Saddam Hussein NOT having WMD BEFORE the war, the MSM would have jumped at those." . . . . . . I agree. It would've been shocking to see the NE publish real news.
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Posted 11:45 AM, 08/20/2008
montani semper liberi
Will, I suspect most folks living in the 21st century don't find it particularly fascinating that a dynamic middle-aged man with good looks has been having a hetero affair. Many might even be surprised if he didn't. Even the MSM knows when something is too mundane for wall-to-wall coverage.
Posted 11:45 AM, 08/20/2008
montani semper liberi
Will, I suspect most folks living in the 21st century don't find it particularly fascinating that a dynamic middle-aged man with good looks has been having a hetero affair. Many might even be surprised if he didn't. Even the MSM knows when something is too mundane for wall-to-wall coverage.
Posted 11:43 AM, 08/20/2008
jfar86
Selective reporting is one of the places where bias in the media is most apparent. By way of example, I haven't seen an article on Philly.com yet about how McCain has surged above Obama in the polls and has a five point lead.
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Posted 11:28 AM, 08/20/2008
shoeshineboy
John Edwards is yesterday's old news. So is Larry Craig. So is Gary Hart. What was "other stuff" Will was going to write about? More about blood and ants? More about the use of knee pads and Senator Obama? More about the awful state of journalism in Philadelphia? Sending Ryan Howard down to Lakewood?
Posted 11:16 AM, 08/20/2008
ivb
Will, was there more to your last sentence than we see? I assume that the folks here want the NYT et al to devote their resources to the cover story that I keep seeing on the tabloids about Bush drinking again and Laura living apart and planning to leave him after the term is over? Personally, I don't, they are almost as over as Edwards. If Edwards had gotten closer to the nomination, I suspect that this would have come out much sooner.
Posted 11:14 AM, 08/20/2008
will
Yikes, hit the wrong button earlier -- the entire post should be up now.
Posted 11:10 AM, 08/20/2008
GreyHippie
"OK, but the National Enquirer was still able to get the story, so why couldn't the New York Times? The answer is money, time, and manpower." And, I would add, a willingness to take the risk that they might get the story, or part of the story, wrong. Judy Miller has left the NYT once-bitten-twice-shy.As someone who lived in New York in the mid-1990's as Rudy and his young press secretary cavorted all over town and grew up in Villanova as Nelson and Happy dined and cooed together publicly, the idea that the media covers up for only Democrats is laughable. My opinion is every single sector of the media is chomping at the bit to run with a good sex story, but only after someone has done it first.
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Posted 10:46 AM, 08/20/2008
CB
Will - Unfortunately, journalistic ethics and work practices has not seemed to stop the New York Times recently, so you argument is somewhat lessened by their actions.
Posted 10:43 AM, 08/20/2008
bon
Can we stop talking about John Edwards? He is gone and we are all better for it.
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