You know all about the Tea Partiers running around, complaining about President Obama violating the Constitution and calling for his impeachment -- you may also heard there's a Coffee Party rising in a response, sort of, to the Tea Party. Here's something I think the Coffee Party can make agenda item No.1 -- President Obama violating the Constitution.
At least nobody died when Barack Obama lied -- except the American way of criminal justice.
President Obama violating the Constitution.SCOTUS found military tribunals to be Constitutional back during WWII. Your ignorance is truly staggering sometimes, Will. (HTML deleted)— db_cooper- Annabel Park, the founder of the so-called Coffee Party, worked as a volunteer for President Barack Obama’s presidential campaign - something you might know, Will, if you did more than just cut-and-paste from liberal blogs.— db_cooper
Comment removed.- Hate to say it, DB, but you're wrong. From the LAT Times, 11/29/09: "In Ex Parte Quirin, the Supreme Court case that eventually upheld the military trial of these Germans -- after they had been tried and after six of the eight defendants had been executed -- the court declared that a formal declaration of war is the legal prerequisite to the government's use of the tools of war. The federal government adhered to this principle of law from World War II until Bush's understanding of the Constitution animated government policy.The recent decision to try some of the Guantanamo detainees in federal District Court and some in military courts in Cuba is without a legal or constitutional bright line. All those still detained since 9/11 should be tried in federal courts because without a declaration of war, the Constitution demands no less." As for Annabel Park being a 2008 Obama supporter, that is exactly my point. These are the people who SHOULD be protesting this move -- but who probably won't be.— will
Can anyone do anything original anymore?- "In Ex Parte Quirin, the Supreme Court case that eventually upheld the military trial of these Germans -- after they had been tried and after six of the eight defendants had been executed -- the court declared that a formal declaration of war is the legal prerequisite to the government's use of the tools of war. " Sorry, Will, but the Military Tribunals as CURRENTLY formulated have also passed SCOTUS muster - they were changed in response to recent SCOTUS rulings on the initial SCOTUS decisions. "As for Annabel Park being a 2008 Obama supporter, that is exactly my point. These are the people who SHOULD be protesting this move -- but who probably won't be." I guess the fact that the Coffee Party is pure astroturf flies right by you.— db_cooper
- Uh, WIll, in looking further into the claims you posted from the LA Times, in Hamden v Rumsfeld, the SCOTUS case in question, ex Parte Quirin was cited as giving SCOTUS standing to rule on the tribunals, in defiance of Congressional efforts to strip them of standing. Further, SCOTUS found that the AUMF, the UCMJ, and the DTA "at most acknowledge" the President's authority to convene military commissions only where justified by the exigencies of war, but still operating within the laws of war. SCOTUS's problems with the commissions were not due to a lack of declaration of war, but that the commissions as crafted did not meet the laws of war (a rather odd ruling, given that the combatants in question did not merit POW standing under the terms of the Geneva Conventions, since they were not uniformed soldiers). But beyond that, Congress did pass changes to the commissions that dealt with the concerns raised by Hamden, so the commissions as currently formulated do pass SCOTUS muster by any rational consideration of such - which makes your claim that they are unconstitutional rather ludicrous.— db_cooper
Don't worry about that ol' Constitution, Dingy Harry Reid says it's a great day in America. Only 36,000 jobs were lost.— jmc- Comment removed.
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- what? no blog entry about Nutter's tax on sugar water and trash fees? Here's another Dem helping the poor.— palmyra21
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"John Patrick Bedell. Registered Democrat." Ted Bundy. Registered Republican. Which means, well, absolutely nothing.— one_eyed_jack
This is great! I signed up to attend our local Coffee Party. I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK FROM THE OBSTRUCTIONIST, SCIENCE DENIERS, BIRTHERS and others who mislead the American People. I am talking to you Bohner, Palin, Beck, Limbaugh and others whose loud and obnoxious bile somehow makes its way into our dialogue.— Les Ismore- Brilliant SB"veteran". Your prayers were answered. Actually if you took the time to listen to his rants, you would know he has tea bagger written all over him.— Les Ismore
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