For those about to Glock (fire!), we do not salute you
For those about to Glock (fire!), we do not salute you
Two truisms about America: 1) There's no such thing as bad publicity and 2) There are second acts in American life...
...especially if your name is Glock:
After a Glock-wielding gunman killed six people at a Tucson shopping center on Jan. 8, Greg Wolff, the owner of two Arizona gun shops, told his manager to get ready for a stampede of new customers.
Wolff was right. Instead of hurting sales, the massacre had the $499 semi-automatic pistols -- popular with police, sport shooters and gangsters -- flying out the doors of his Glockmeister stores in Mesa and Phoenix.
“We’re at double our volume over what we usually do,” Wolff said two days after the shooting spree that also left 14 wounded, including Democratic Representative Gabrielle Giffords, who remains in critical condition.
It's not too different from the surge in gun and ammo sales that we saw after Barack Obama was elected president in 2008. People -- who obviously haven't been reading a newspaper for the last decade -- think that the government is going to ban certain kinds of guns, and so they rush out to buy them while they think they still can. Also, there's probably a warped mentally that if the Glock that Jared Lee Loughner used was able to strike so many targets -- also known as human beings -- then "maybe this is the gun for me."
Sick.
Once upon a time in America -- and I'm talking about the late 1990s and early 2000s -- it was in fact illegal to purchase the extended magazine that Loughner used in his Tucson shooting spree, the magazine that allowed him to fire 33 times and hit 20 people without reloading. I'm not a hunter myself, but I'm not aware of the scenario where you need to mow down 33 deer in one herd in a matter of seconds. In other words, it seems like the only actual purpose of the extended magazine is to kill a lot of people in a matter of seconds, and that is something that private citizens do not need, nor -- in my opinion -- is a right guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment.
America allows citizens the freedom to move around the country as we wish, but there are common sense restrictions on how you do that; outlawing a 12-year-old or a legally blind person from getting behind the wheel of a two-ton automobile, for example. Gun use should be no different -- this can be a basic right for citizens that is not fundamentally impinged by restrictions on the more ridiculous aspects of firearms, such as a handgun that can kill so many people in such a short time.
Rep. Carolyn McCarthy of Long Island, N.Y., who entered politics when her husband was fatally gunned down in a mass killing on the Long Island Rail Road, is sponsoring legislation that would re-impose the ban on extended magazines like the one used in Tucson. I cannot think of a better concrete action to come out of this tragedy, and I plan to crusade for this legislation here at Attytood in the weeks to follow. It is certainly the least that we can do about senseless gun violence.
Hey genius- what if the complete loon used a sword, machete, knife or baseball bat?
What if he killed 4 people with a machete instead of 6 with a gun?
Tell me- would you ban machetes? I will wait for the logical response- thanks- Would you agree that an automatic weapon is more efficient at killing multiple victims than a machete, knife or baseball bat? That is where your attempted analogy breaks down.
— mxlplk - You are off the topic and did not answer my question.
If the loon killed 4 people with a machete- what would be the liberal left's response?
Now to your illogical response- what if he used a household item that is legal- to make a bomb and killed 30 people? - So I assume you want to abolish Class C gun licenses? I'm just trying to follow your "logic"...for those who don't know, you must have a Class C license to own an automatic weapon (machine gun). They are not easy to get and a pain to keep.
— Hamlet 
Comment removed.- "there's probably a warped mentally that if the Glock that Jared Lee Loughner used was able to strike so many targets -- also known as human beings -- then 'maybe this is the gun for me.' Sick." I don't know how much truth is in your statement. Regardless...you do realize that the idea that you are calling "sick" was conjured up in your own mind, don't you? Does this mean that you have a "warped mentality"?
— legatus - Glad you brought that woman up, jmc.
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Meet Patricia Maisch the woman who kept alleged shooter Jared Lee Loughner from reloading after he opened fire on a crowd of people in Arizona Saturday.
The Tuscon sheriff told Shep Smith yesterday she may have saved numerous lives and "it was one of the bravest actions he'd ever seen." ... Maisch also echoed Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik saying she thinks the "extreme right has gone too far" and she hopes the GOP will tone down their rhetoric.
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RG will be along any minute now to call Maisch a "scumbag."— Talking point sleuth - ===]]] Maye the answer lies in how we care (or don't care, for that matter) about those with mental illness. [[[===
Which would mean that stark-raving made lunatics wouldn't be given a public forum to spread lies and conspiracy theories - but given mental health services instead?— Talking point sleuth - So - you think that the extreme right hasn't gone to far, and that the GOP shouldn't tone down its rhetoric?
In other words, you have no problem with statements like this?
--snip--
We shouldn’t be shocked that he does all these other insane things. A president that has lost his way that badly, that has no ability to see the image of God in these little fellow human beings, if he can’t do that right, then he has no place in any station of government and we need to realize that he is an enemy of humanity.”
--snip--
Or statements like this in reference to homosexuals (said by someone who received standing ovations at a Tea Party convention).
--snip--
The State carries the power of the sword, that is, the power to prohibit conduct with physical penalties, such as confinement and even execution. It must use that power to prevent the subversion of children toward this lifestyle, to not encourage a criminal lifestyle.
--snip--
I mean - what could be "too far" about statements like that, right? Why should anyone tone down that kind of rhetoric, right?— Talking point sleuth 
Hamlet: I fail to see your point. If Maisch wasn't there to disarm Loghner, he would have been able to reload and continue shooting no matter what kind of magazine he was able to buy. It was heroic human intervention that prevented more deaths, gun control would not have.— jmc- jmc, the fact that she stopped him from *reloading* makes the point. If she stopped him and the mag was six shots, he would have got off six shots. With a ten shot mag, ten shots, etc. We were talking about limiting the capacity of magazines (clips). — Hamlet
So what am I to do with the 15 round mags for my Glock 22? (15+1 to be exact?) Or the 75 round drum for my AK? Or 100 round Beta for my AR's?- Why dont you try locking them up?
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