UPDATED: Breaking news: Barack Obama, 44th president, re-elected to a second term
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UPDATED: Breaking news: Barack Obama, 44th president, re-elected to a second term
UPDATE: Here's my story in today's paper:
THE SEQUEL is never as entertaining or surprising as the original.
And so President Obama - who dazzled the nation four years ago - earned a second term Tuesday by grinding out a solid, workmanlike victory on the ground, turning out just enough of his 21st-century coalition of black and Latino voters, young adults and educated professionals in enough key states to turn back Republican Mitt Romney.
Crowds in Obama's hometown of Chicago and in New York's Times Square erupted in a flag-waving celebration and danced to Aretha Franklin's "Respect" at roughly 11:15 p.m., when the major TV networks called the hard-fought race for the president. Fittingly, it was Ohio - the Midwestern, middle-of-the-road, microcosm state that sucked up so much of the candidate's time and money - and its 20 electoral votes that put the 44th president over the top.
"We're all in this together," Obama said on Twitter late Tuesday night. "That's how we campaigned, and that's who we are. Thank you."
Explaining the lack of blog posts recently, I also wrote articles about "the fiscal cliff" and other challenges of Obama's second term.
Comments (123)
say it again. I'm sorry what was that you were saying republicans?- The American people nominated the best Republican moderate and his name is Barack Hussein Obama!— chasing history
- as bushie said, time to spend some of that political capital. what issue would annoy the inbreeds the most?
- Thank you Philadelphia for making your voice heard. This victory is actually better than the last. You know ol Mitt wouldn't have done done s*** for Philly. Now unify to do more positive things.— MADHOG
- This one is much better than the last. America has repudiated the Tea Party. Hate and obstruction did not prevail (other than in safe House districts). Still waiting on VA and Fla...if he wins those and takes the popular vote (which he should after the west coast is counted), it's a mandate.— wokmaster
- I said it before, and I'll say it again.
Skew this pole, Republicans.— Talking point sleuth - My next campaign contribution is going to the Tea Party. Best friend a Democrat can have.— Talking point sleuth
- I guess Nate Silver wasn't just making his whole forcast up, huh?— wokmaster
- It's just not the same on here without our conservative friends. Why aren't they celebrating with us socialists?
By the way, is Fox covering a funeral? Hope they have extra tissues.— wokmaster - Intrade at 99.5% for Obama.
Not to late to get your bet in, boyz!— Talking point sleuth - The funny thing is, Wokkie - you know they're reading, they just can't think of anything to say.
Fox News is blaming the loss on Obama defining Romney with negative adds. They can't even consider that Romney's policies just lacked sufficient popular appeal.— Talking point sleuth - I smell a blue VA, NV and FL. Wouldn't that just be the icing on the cake? Mitt never thought to write a concession speech - and they say Obama is the egomaniac. Unbelievable.— wokmaster
- Wow! Loony toons Bachmann, Joe Walsh and Alan West might all be moving from the House to Fox News next year. Can this night possibly get any better?— wokmaster
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Let me fill in for our wingnut friends: Democrats stole this, it was the blahs, vote fraud, media bias, handouts. How's that?
This is a good night.— DiTurno 
I am proud of my country tonight, even prouder than I was in 2008. Americans took on the billionaires, the Adelsons and Kochs and Scaifes, and said, "You can't buy this."- The outcome of the election is not what I was hoping for, but unless Barry follows through with his conciliatory tone and promises to work with the other side, this country will remain broken for four more years. It really is time for him to make part of his legacy bringing this country together. There are too many huge problems to do otherwise.
PS- Can any of my friends on the left give me an expiration date on blaming Bush? It's time to retire the "driving the car into the ditch" metaphor....— Wiseman6 - Wiseman - It wasn't George Bush alone. He had plenty of help from Republicans in Congress. Do you think Americans stopped blaming Hoover 4 years into FDR's term?
— wokmaster 
Wiseman, you can stop blaming Bush now.- @msl- That works for me. The right can stop blaming Bush for losing in 2008 and the left can stop blaming him for Barry's lack of leadership and accomplishment..
I like it. We are already coming together.....— Wiseman6 - Congratulations to President Obama on his re-election. The American people have spoken. A little more than half of the American people decided that they would prefer to live off the other half. They chose a society where the government is the engine, the center from which all things emanate, rather than the individual. I'm sorry for that, but the bill will come due eventually, and it will be those who chose this path that will suffer the most. There is not enough "other people's money" to go around.— jmc
- This idea that all liberals/democrats want to live off of other people's money is what helped to give your party a resounding defeat last night. Keep it up and prepare for irrelevancy. — wokmaster
- 53 million votes for Romney and control over the House hardly qualifies as a party heading for irrelevancy. Romney's loss last night stings for sure, but the fight goes on.
— jmc - The House has become a haven for extremists. They are gerrymandered - by both parties - to the point that the only way to lose is by someone in your own primary. Tea Party darlings Allen west and Joe Walsh were both defeated. Bachmann almost got tossed. Divorce the Tea Party or continue to lose elections. — wokmaster
- hadn't heard about West. thanks for the update. there were huge defeats for republicans last night. amazing how they don't even recognixe reality anymore. they are little FOX sheep.
- Another step backwards for the GOP. We are watching the slow death of a party with backward ideas that only appeal to rich white guys. Keep it up, it's clearly working for your party!— The Fundamentals of the Economy are Fine
- LOL, yes, we can now blame Obama for his lack of leadership and accomplishment in winning a new mandate for 4 more years.
- LOL, yes, we can now blame Obama for his lack of leadership and accomplishment in winning a new mandate for 4 more years.
- "There is not enough "other people's money" to go around." . . . . . That was the fundamentally flawed assumption in Romney's tax plan, actually.
- "Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and gave him triumphal processions. Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the 'new, wonderful, good society' which shall now be Rome's, interpreted to mean: more money, more ease, more security, more living fatly at the expense of the industrious." -- Marcus Tullius Cicero— teardownthisfishwrap
- Translation: Waaahhhh *sniffle* waahhhhh — wokmaster
- I know wokmaster is much more enlightened than Cicero, but I'll give it a shot:
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship."
― Alexis de Tocqueville
— jmc - jmc - I reject your premise. I, for one, have never taken one red cent from the government. I work full time. I work as hard as I can and I pay my taxes. If we want to come together, conservatives have to move past the idea that all liberals/democrats are moochers. — wokmaster
- Mitt promised 2 trillion in defense spending yet Virginia and Colorado(trying to buy the military vote) both chose Obama.
we spend more on defense than the rest of the world combined. yesterday's vote said americans want other priorities. we fought the revolution in this city so we can have taxation with representation.
admit it- you are brainwashed to hate democrats and that's why you bark. the majority of americans want social services. though you hate to admit it, the ideas that started this countrhy were european and that evolution to include retirement services and other european ideas. - @msl- The "mandate" still kind of looks like the partisan gridlock that has provided such a spectacular result over the past two years.... Bask all you want but the fact remains that unless the president shows real leadership in trying to bring this severely fractured country back together, we will be in no better shape in four years than we are right now.— Wiseman6
- I'm optimistic. The country soundly rejected Tea Party obstructionism last night, and if the GOP House doesn't get the message, it will be soundly rejected in the midterms.
- soundly rejected, but they got to keep Bachmann so they will probably try and declare a mandate. everyone else defeated. don't let the door hit you where the lord split you.
- Come on, Wok. I thought you were better than this...— Wiseman6
- Wiseman, I have alot of respect for you. I mean absolutely no disrespect to YOU. However, I was watching Fox last night, and I saw very little change in the attitude of the GOP talking heads. I read Erik Erikson on Red State and he's already saying that the platform which Romney ran on "was not conservative enough". He said Romney ran a terrible campaign. I disagree. I think Romney was shackled with the positions he espoused in the primaries. Where does it end? People like yourself need to become the voice of reason or they will not be taken seriously. — wokmaster
- Wiseman - If the GOP House does not relent on taxes going up on the most wealthy (about 4%), then the President must go alone again. Had he kept trying to compromise with leaders who vowed to make him a one-term president above all else, he would have had no record to run on - other than bin Laden's death.— wokmaster
- It's gotta suck to have to hate your country for 4 more years.
- Romney's team made a few fatal mistakes:
* Politicizing Benghazi
* Lying about GM and Jeep
* Proposing to make Medicare a voucher program
The voter ID laws energized the Democratic base in a way I've rarely seen. And the demographics are getting worse for the GOP. Start reaching out to minorities or continue to fade away.
— chasing history - The Taxman cometh.
— urkidnmepal - What's up with that creepy handle? Is it supposed to be funny? — wokmaster
- Pot. Kettle. Black. — urkidnmepal
- Save Mitt's money!
- Let the Bush tax cuts expire is a good start!— chasing history
- @Wok- Do you really feel that you are talking directly to those 'talking heads' on Fox through these chat boards?— Wiseman6
- Having "rich folks pay a little bit more" will solve everything. What a laugh.— teardownthisfishwrap
- I look forward to watching Fox, listening to Limbaugh, Hannity, Giordano today. Like music to my ears.
It's time for the Republican House show some leadership and move to compromise with the president and the Senate majority so we can move this country forward. Let's pass the tax breaks for everyone but the rich. Let's put this marriage discrimination behind us. Let's stop with the insane comments about rape and stop attacking organizations that provide women's health services. Let's stop hand-wringing about how Obama is destroying the country. Let's work to reduce the huge drain of rising healthcare costs, perhaps by considering modifying the healthcare act w/o trying to repeal the whole thing. Let's work on compromise to reform entitlements. Let's stop calling some 47% of the public, the majority of whom are working poor, elderly, or disabled - "moochers."
What do you think wiseman? Ready to get this done?— Talking point sleuth - Here's a question for our much beloved Attytood "conservatives."
Those of you who went on and on with that nonsense about how the pools were "skewed" by pollsters with biased samples - are you willing to look now at how much your partisan ideology twists your reasoning so that you're blind to simple and objective reality? Do you think that arguing about simple addition and ratios and probabilities is an example of something a tad off in your thinking processes?
— Talking point sleuth - @msl- I shudder to think what the environment will be like in two years without big decisions and tough choices being made over the next two. If nothing is done before the midterms in 2014, I'm not sure that I would want to be the party 'responsible' in full to even attempt to clean up that mess...— Wiseman6
- There are certain hard realities. Republicans are relying on increasing vote share from a shrinking constituency - whites (particularly white males) - in order to maintain any political viability. Baring a decline in the economy over the next four years, that isn't going to happen. Without some major and unpredictable political developments taking place, the only way for Republicans to maintain political viability is to compromise on issues that are of importance to many women and to minorities. Otherwise, they will be holding on to an ideology that will simply not produce forward movement, but will only offer the possibility of further gridlock.
You need to throw out the extremists among your midst. You need to stop compromising - and listening to those you call "moochers." You need to alter your stance on issues like gay marriage. You need to stop relying on the hucksters who lie to you about objective reality - like the mathematics of polling.
Are you up to the challenge?— Talking point sleuth - ===]]] @msl- I shudder to think what the environment will be like in two years without big decisions and tough choices being made over the next two. If nothing is done before the midterms in 2014, I'm not sure that I would want to be the party 'responsible' in full to even attempt to clean up that mess... [[[===
Wiseman it's not clear from your statement there: do you consider the possibility that if gridlock continues, still increasing %'s of the public will blame Republicans for being obstructonist?— Talking point sleuth - Let's give full credit to the Party that was actually able to re-elect a black incumbent when there is 8% unemployment: The Tea Party.
Credit where credit is due.— Talking point sleuth - Chicago Tribune - "The median annual household income for blacks declined by 11.1 percent (from $36,567 to $32,498) from June 2009 to June 2012, according to an analysis of Census Bureau data by Sentier Research. The decline for whites was 5.2 percent and for Hispanics 4.1 percent." /// Four more years of this? And yet somehow the mindless Obama drones are rejoicing? Raising taxes will fix it though, right? Again, what a laugh.— teardownthisfishwrap
- do you know what the word "myopic" means?
you are so up Ann Coulter's rear you forget a financial collapse. and you're pushing this junk.
look at yesterday- america doesn't believe a word you say, selective reader. - fishwrap
Have you considered why, in spite of those economic realities, your candidate lost - and by the widest margin among those who have been hit the hardest, economically?— Talking point sleuth - @tps- I'm saying that if nothing gets done to address the serious financial issues before the midterms, it may get House Dems elected. But at that point it might be past the point of no return. I wouldn't want to have to be the party entirely responsible for fixing it. Dems would lose by winning. It would be like those unfortunates with homes on the Jersey shore floating in the ocean, seeking solace in finding someone to blame..
Social issues are great for dividing electorate, but they do nothing to stimulate the economy and get people working. The tone of the government message toward successful people does nothing to encourage more of them.— Wiseman6 - @msl- Does it really surprise you that the free ice cream is more popular with those that are getting it (those that resist cuts/reforms to any social entitlement programs) than those that are charged to supply and pay for it (represented by Tea Party (Taxed Enough Already).
Its the easy to take the side of argument that says everyone should get everything for 'free' rather than the side that wants to talk about if we can afford it and who should pay for it....
How else can you explain that in the face of terrible economics for minorities-- black households have suffered the largest drop in income of any group and have significantly higher unemployment rates, that this president was reelected? Was it because the President believes in abortion? Gay marriage? maybe I am part of the problem. I just don;t see how this was possible given our circumstances today.
You can argue that people didn't think that Romney could do the job, but you can't argue that we've seen any real evidence that Barry can either.— Wiseman6 - Wiseman, why wouldn't the GOP House come to its senses? Are you suggesting they're ready to take the whole country down with them?— montani semper liberi
- @msl- If "coming to it's senses" means raising taxes on the 'rich' to bring in an additional 80 billion per year in the face of trillion dollar annual deficits, without a substantive discussion about what expenses and entitlements to cut, I would say that I hope they remain 'obstructionist'.
Not raising taxes is one parties path to bringing the country down, not addressing entitlements and expenditures is another. Pick your poison or address BOTH in a rational manner.— Wiseman6 - crazy comments not based anywhere close to reality. I guess you're still a little shellshocked. good.
- If the R's in the House try to take down the economy now I think the "liberal media" will finally call them on it, they have to. Then, in 2014, POW! No more Republicans.
Republicans have two choices. Work with the Dems or lose their seats. Go ahead, Rs, commit suicide. I dare you...— Hamlet - Cngrats Mr President!!!!!!!!!!!!
— gibby58 - Wiseman - reading your posts makes me wonder why democrats should budge one inch. You asked me if I think I'm addressing the talking heads. I don't. You know as well as I do that I'm speaking to their minions. You voted for Tom Smith and Pat Toomey. The GOP elected Jim Demint, Eric Cantor, Rand Paul, Steve King, etc. These are people who were voted in by people who share the same belief as you - that there will be no compromise with Dems. The nation spoke last night. We rejected Tom Smith, Mourdock, Akin, Tommy Thompson, Allen West, Joe Walsh and almost Bachmann. Good for us. RIP Tea Party 2009-2012.
Threatening more obstruction won't work. Retaining the House (while losing seats) is like holding a pair of 5s, while democrats are holding triple aces. Choose wisely.
— wokmaster - "Have you considered why, in spite of those economic realities, your candidate lost - and by the widest margin among those who have been hit the hardest, economically? — Talking point sleuth"
Um, stupidity?— teardownthisfishwrap - Logic is obviously not your strong suit. — wokmaster
- I think fishwrap gets it, TPS.
- Will those in the media now grow a pair and start doing thier job of pushing, prodding, questioning and challenging?— michael_b
- Somewhere in the plantation house, hateman wok still looking down his nose at people and pouring salt all over his cracker.— jippy from camden
- Welcome to Greece. When the bill comes due for this, I probably will be gone. Take everything from the top 5% and you still can't pay this off. Enjoy.— georgel
- You were right on with the Romney landslide, and so was Rassmussen. — chasing history
- thank you for leaving. we're gonna steal all of europe's good ideas and you wouldn't want to be around for that.
- The Republican Party has made obstructionism a political ideology. The only way the could win in the face of demographic trends was for the country to stangate. So they did their best to obstruct anything that Obama or Dems might have tried.
The question is whether or not they will continue with the same losing strategy. Will they move to capture a wider cross-section of voters, or will they continue to try to squeeze more votes out of a shrinking demographic. The only way that they can get more white votes is for more whites to leave the Dem Party. The only way that will happen is if the economy suffers.
Republicans will be responsible for the decisions they make.— Talking point sleuth - @hamlet- I'm sure the House Republicans thank you for your advice. Coming from this board I'm sure they will take it to heart.
I think that there is some healthy mutually assured destruction evident in the coming two years. The president cannot afford to risk the first two years of his last term without getting things done and no evidence of compromise or really working together. Sure you may get what you wish for in that the Republican party goes underground after 2014, but by then this country will be in such a mess, does Barry really want to spend the last two years of it digging out of a hole rather than figuring out his 'legacy'?— Wiseman6 - let the Bush tax cuts expire. that accomplishes a lot and don't need no help to doz it.
- Conservatives played a high stakes game of chicken. Back in '09, they made a calculated decision to obstruct the President at every turn, paint him as "not one of us", downplay his achievements, elect Congressional candidates who ran on platforms of 'no compromise', create nonexistent "scandals", and then complain that HE "was dividing the country". Then they doubled down on painting the President as weak on foreign policy and politicized the death of our Ambassador. Well, they got run over by the train last night.
Now our conservative friends are curled up in the fetal position muttering "Benghazi" to themselves over and over.
— wokmaster - ===]]] and no evidence of compromise or really working together. [[[===
Sorry wiseman - but that is just ridiculous. He pushed healthcare reform that was straight out of the Republican platform just a couple of years back. The same sort of plan as that implemented, as Gov, by the Republican candidate for god's sake. He faced opposition from his own party against the compromises he was making there as well as in a number of other areas such as tax breaks.
If you're going to talk about the importance of compromise, stop trying to polemicize the efforts at compromise that Obama did make. Face the music and acknowledge the political strategy of obstructionism that was explicitly stated by Republican leaders.— Talking point sleuth - @msl- I have always maintained that solving this fiscal mess will take commitments to address both the tax AND spending side. However, I have always prefaced my opinion that campaign of "get the rich" for the sake of, as Willie Sutton said- that's where the money is", is not a helpful strategy. Successful people that "did build that" don't mind and are perhaps even willing to do their part, but to be vilified on top of it is too much.
I personally although I don't like to have to pay for the sins of the past, would be ok with increases in tax as long as this country's long and short term spending and entitlement programs were a serious part of the conversation.— Wiseman6 - I believe Obama will agree to a Simpson-Bowles compromise that allows for a 3-1 cut in entitlements for tax increases. It's very unpopular with the "liberal" part of the Democratic party, but supported by a lot of moderate democrats. If the GOP rejects it, then I do believe they will be punished in '14. — chasing history
- @tps- The president is held to a higher standard of leadership and cooperation than the lemmings that make up Congress. His "leading from behind" strategy and not making a point of being seen working with leaders of both parties doesn't work for the good of the country.— Wiseman6
- yeah and that's what you ______s think about an agreed 2 trillion reduction on the debt obama had negotiated with bonher the crier, until he pulled the rug out from under the deal.
- "The president is held to a higher standard of leadership and cooperation than the lemmings that make up Congress." . . . . So Wiseman, what should a president do with obstructionist lemmings in Congress who won't cooperate?— montani semper liberi
- Perhaps going to the People and securing a mandate for cooperation?— montani semper liberi
- The country isn't drifting to the left or the right, it is drifting to the stupid. Luckily, we have the Dullard-in-Chief for only 2 more years. The Empty Suit won't matter after the midterm elections.— 2ndNlong
- And here we thought you'd be blaming the librul media, Guv Christie, the New Black Panthers, Romney not being a REAL conservative, and such. No, let's blame the voters! I can see the Tea Party's next target is democracy itself. Good luck with that.
- Or should he simply state that his No. 1 priority is to make this the last term for the GOP House, and veto every bill?— montani semper liberi
- Can we all atleast agree that the state of Florida is an embarrassment to America? Just imagine if the presidency would be decided by it's electoral votes?— wokmaster
- @wok- With all due respect, the Dems will have to budge "one inch" if anything tax and spending related is to get through the House, not to mention that if spending cuts are not a significant part of the equation, the math doesn't work. Annual tax increases 80 billion, annual deficit 1 trillion.
Without big boy decisions about spending and entitlements in this country, the rest doesn't matter. Both sides are part of the problem but the spending side cannot be ignored without peril for the long term financial stability of the country.— Wiseman6 - I'm sure Bunch is studiously working right now on that New Black Panthers article following up on his Monday piece. I have to say Philly really shined yesterday, ay? The icing on the cake would have been a flash mob news item, but I guess that was just too much to ask.— teardownthisfishwrap
- "Sure you may get what you wish for in that the Republican party goes underground after 2014, but by then this country will be in such a mess..."
Wiseman, unlike the House Republicans, I'm not willing to harm the country to gain political advantage.— Hamlet - @msl- Let's see what each side is willing to put on the table in terms of compromise and then let the electorate decide between "obstructionist" or "principled" for 2014.
Spending and entitlement cuts have to be a significant part of the equation.— Wiseman6 - Wiseman, if I'm not mistaken, Obama had proposed deficit reduction which included $2 of spending cuts for every dollar of new revenue per his tax proposal. The plan called for $4 trillion in deficit reduction over 12 years, a bipartisan goal, and included automatic across-the-board cuts if reduction goals weren't being met. Medicare cuts were included, and Obama chided Dems that they needed to be willing to compromise on entitlements. The GOP refused to consider any tax increases, proposed tax cuts instead, with the Ryan demolition of Medicare to pay for them. Whose proposal made more sense to you?
- "
The voter ID laws energized the Democratic base in a way I've rarely seen"
Chasing, that's what I was saying yesterday. Voter suppression efforts backfired and actually helped the Republicans *lose*. Thank you ALEC!— Hamlet - @hamlet- You say that you are not willing to harm the country for political gain, but ignoring or taking only a token approach toward the spending side of the equation does just that.
— Wiseman6 - On token approach to spending reductions, see MSL's comment. And don't even try to talk about your "principled" House Republicans, I just ate lunch.
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/250391-gop-kills-veterans-jobs-bill-with-budget-vote— Hamlet - Opps, that was a Senate GOP action. Sorry. I'll give you some House examples later...— Hamlet
- @msl- The problem is that the tax increases are real and the spending cuts rarely come to fruition.
Sequestration is supposed to auto-pilot some of those reductions, except that everyone gets cold feet when it comes to the actual cuts. If the defense industry cuts that were going to affect employment were REALLY going to happen, why did the administration suspend the notification requirements for layoff notices until after the election? Is it because they didn't want the press pre-election or do they really think those cuts won't happen? Even the auto-pilot cuts are up for further debate on the eve of them actually happening.
Its almost like you have to ask for $6 dollars of spending cuts for each dollar of revenue, because you know that $6 will be 'nimbyed' down to 3 dollars. Asking for 2 or 3 dollars per revenue dollar up front, really ends up like a 1:1 ratio, which isn't a serious 'compromise'.
Costs were actuarily deemed to be part of the Medicare Doc fix were not calculated as part of the costs, even though EVERYONE knew that those cuts were never going to take place.
The actual, real hard cuts are like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football. Excpet that they actually do get kicked down the road...
— Wiseman6 - @hamlet- Did any Senate Dems vote against that bill or was it just Republicans?— Wiseman6
- Wiseman - the Republicans in Congress made obstructionism their explicit political strategy. It was either that or compromise on issues that women and minorities care about. They made their choice. Unless moderate Republicans hold them accountable for that choice, it probably won't change.— Talking point sleuth
- I have lived in my home for 26 years. For all those years I have displayed the flag for all the reasons our forefathers fought for. Today we have officially become a nation of dependent whiners blaming eveything on some nebulous "others". Pathetic.
Well, today is the first time I have ever been ashamed of my country. I just took the flag down.— georgel - Georgel, they say the weather in Greece is spectacular, and the austerity there is so bad it drives dependent whiners crazy. Your kind of republic, I assume.— montani semper liberi
- Personally, I hope posters like gorgel, baldy mcfatkins, 2andlong continue with their delusionary thinking about Obama and the Dems. They will guarantee the GOP becomes a regional party and has very little influence in Washington.— The Fundamentals of the Economy are Fine
- I've always taken your posts with a grain of salt but, seriously, do think a one-party system would be good for our country? — philly2flag
- If there’s anyone angrier than a liberal who has just lost, it’s a liberal who has just won. (J Treacher)— teardownthisfishwrap
- why don't you take your ball and go home already. move to somewhere where people care for your bull____.
- Well, no calls for armed revolution yet. That's a good sign.— montani semper liberi
- "The problem is that the tax increases are real and the spending cuts rarely come to fruition." . . . . . . Then you should take some encouragement from this fact-checking last spring. http://www.alan.com/2012/05/25/politifact-verifies-rise-in-spending-under-obama-lowest-since-eisenhower/— montani semper liberi
- @msl- Let me know when the "slowing in the increase in spending" results in an actual REDUCTION from the previous year. Until then you are merely tapping the brakes at 75mph...
Let me know when Barry comes up with a budget that can get one Dem vote and isn't a trillion dollar deficit.— Wiseman6 - Barry's budget not getting one vote was not Barry's budget, but you wouldn't know that because you are choked with hate and surround yourself with sources that fed your hate. you are like my students who never go 4 blocks outside their neighborhood but think they know what's going on.
- this all that needs to be said- democrats won in North Dakota.
- @high water- If you are an 'educator' I am happy that you are nowhere around my children...— Wiseman6
- @high water- It must have been BUSH's budget submission that didn't get any Senate votes in February 2011. Got it.
Whose zero Dem vote budgets did you think they were? Does Barry ever actually DO anything?— Wiseman6 - Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.) has offered a budget amendment that contains top-line spending and revenue numbers found in the Obama's budget. It is being debated Wednesday as the House takes up the GOP budget by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) that cuts $5.3 trillion in spending compared to Obama’s proposal.
“But let’s be very clear: A vote on Congressman Mulvaney’s resolution is not a vote on the president’s budget. This is just a gimmick the Republicans are putting forward to distract from what the Ryan budget does: protects massive tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires while making the middle class and seniors pay,” White House spokeswoman Amy Brundage said.
are you serious that you have a child? I pity your wife and child. - "I've always taken your posts with a grain of salt but, seriously, do think a one-party system would be good for our country?"
Do you? We have two slaves-to-corporate-America conservative parties. I say we should have a liberal party, call it Labor, and a responsible conservative party, the Democrats. Voila! A two party system.— Hamlet - David Cameron, a conservative in England, is more liberal than Barack Obama. America is the only place in the entire world with these type of freakish conservatives and the rest of the world are scared of american conservatives. they look at them as what they are, the american taliban.
- I'm not saying the anti-woman, Randian and racist party can't participate, but it should be as a splinter, third party. Not one of the major parties that represent the great United States of America, for Pete's sake! It's below our dignity to present the Republican Party to the world as one of our major parties. It makes us look like idiots.— Hamlet
- So I guess repealing the 19th admendment is out? — philly2flag
- "So I guess repealing the 19th admendment is out? "
If the Republicans keep closing women's clinics the 19th Amendment could become moot.— Hamlet
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