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Wednesday, June 4, 2008

It wouldn't be exactly right to say that the annointing of Barack Obama as nominee is a bittersweet day for some Democrats, because as many supporters of Hillary Clinton weigh in today, they are just bitter. Here's one of the best posts of that genre, from my blog-o-friend Amy Z. Quinn, who posts under so many different names I can't keep track. Today she writes (not from Pa. but from South Jersey!) as Citizen Mom that "You're Damn Right I'm Bitter":

Yes, it smarts.

Yes, I'm angry and disappointed today.

And yes, I'll still vote for Barack Obama in November. But you should understand why I'm not feeling great about it this morning.

Now that it's over, now that everybody's been able to run their ecstatic headlines, can we all just admit that the MSM and the Yes! We! Can!-crazed online world had a deep desire to see Obama win, if only so everyone can soak in the aura of  the New Kennedy or the first black president or the generational shift, or to have anything but the Clintons to write and talk about for another four or eight years?

There's a lot more (include a kindly worded slam on me, surely deserved) and the whole thing merits reading. My one major quibble, not just with Quinn's critique but with a lot of the pro-Hillary writing in recent days, is the emphasis on how many votes Clinton received when:

1) By most counts -- except the one that counts her votes from a large state (Michigan) where Obama wasn't on the ballot and which Clinton herself once said didn't matter -- Obama received a few more votes than Clinton did, anyway.

2) More importantly, this race was about what every nomination fight has been about since the 19th Century, and that is about getting the most convention delegates. That was no secret -- these were the rules going in, and everybody knew it. In the end, Obama won the most delegates because of something that anyone could have come up with, regardless of their gender or their race or their experience or whether the media loved or hated them. He won with a strategy:

The insurgent strategy the group devised instead was to virtually cede the most important battlegrounds of the Democratic nomination fight to Clinton, using precision targeting to minimize her delegate hauls, while going all out to crush her in states where Democratic candidates rarely ventured.

The result may have lacked the glamour of a sweep, but last night, with the delegates he picked up in Montana and South Dakota and a flood of superdelegate endorsements, Obama sealed one of the biggest upsets in U.S. political history and became the first Democrat since Jimmy Carter to wrest his party's nomination from the candidate of the party establishment. The surprise was how well his strategy held up -- and how little resistance it met.

"We kept waiting for the Clinton people to send people into the caucus states," marveled Jon Carson, one of Obama's top ground-game strategists.

"It's the big mystery of the campaign," said campaign manager David Plouffe, "because every delegate counts."

 

Will "bitter" voters -- maybe not Amy Z. Quinn but people like her -- swing the fall election to McCain? They could. Here's a suggestion: I think a lot of Obama supporters might agree with virtually all of Clinton's backers that the nominating process that is a sometimes not-so-democratic (small "d") jumble of caucuses and primaries with confusing rules that in the end don't serve anybody. That said, maybe it would be better to channel some of that June anger into changing the Democrats' rules in August -- rather than ratifying the third term of George W. Bush in November?

Posted by Will Bunch @ 7:55 PM  Permalink | 33 comments
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Posted 08:16 PM, 06/04/2008
SteveMG
Hillary Clinton still would have probably ignored the less exciting states even if they weren't caucuses. She started with a big bunch of superdelegates, a twenty point lead in the polls and she sqw no reason to waste her money in the primary campaign. Perhaps she thought John Edwards would have stayed in longer. The facts are that she failed miserably, and only kept it close by going Karl Rove on Obama and making a fool of herself. Her supporters just kept casting a blind eye upon her hypocritical stance on the FL and MI votes, the way she made a joke of herself when she tried to show her CinC cred. I heard interviews on the radio of her supporters insisting that they would vote for John McCain, in spite of the fact that McCain and Clinton were virtually opposite on most issues, and Obama and Clinton were very similar.
Posted 08:35 PM, 06/04/2008
1HotTamale
SteveMG, that just shows how immature many of Hillary's supporters are. Had she won the nomination, I would have supported her 100%. The fact of the matter is, I have supported Obama since the DNC in 2004. Hopefully he chooses John Edwards as his Vice President. Although, I have to give credit where credit is due, Obama should enact Hillary's health care plan.
Posted 08:41 PM, 06/04/2008
shoeshineboy
How can anyone be bitter with YOU leading the charge and waving the Obama flag? All problems are solved! Obama-Bunch 2008.. Change we can believe in
Posted 08:51 PM, 06/04/2008
Annabelle
Now that Barack Obama has been "annointed" as the democratic nominee I hope that the media is happy with its disgraceful treatment of Hillary Clinton. They played a huge role in how this played out along with many of her so-called political friends who were simply turncoats.It was so obvious from day one that she was disliked and despised to the point that Hillary Clinton and her campaign could say nothing about Obama but that HE could say anything that he pleased about her no matter how condescending or disrespectful. This was never challenged or criticized.I was going to vote for her because she's highly competent and experienced. Moreover, she's paid her dues-what has Obamam done that makes him so worthy of the nomination? although I'm a Republican and yes,an African American from Philadelphia! We do exist, believe it or not. But that's OK, I'll just vote for McCain and hope for the best. If Hillary Clinton's supporters are smart, they'll support McCain too. Obama is no more entitled to this nomination than anyone else. Let's see how he survives in the "real" world of politics when he faces McCain. There will not be the wall of protection there that he's enjoyed so far.
Posted 08:52 PM, 06/04/2008
didderbops
"can we all just admit that the MSM and the Yes! We! Can!-crazed online world had a deep desire to see Obama win..." This would be the same MSM that played Reverend Wright non-stop during 2 separate "controversies". They wanted him to win? Yeah, right.. As Hillary said, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Instead of whining about how she was the victim, why don't Hillary supporters show a little class and give Obama some credit for running an excellent campaign? I think we'll see mass suicide among their ranks first.
Posted 08:57 PM, 06/04/2008
didderbops
"that she was disliked and despised to the point that Hillary Clinton and her campaign could say nothing about Obama but that HE could say anything that he pleased about her no matter how condescending or disrespectful." Can you give an example of this? Or are you just citing Hillary talking points?
Posted 09:24 PM, 06/04/2008
WallStreeetExaminer
Clinton's tactic of saying that she was the better candidate because "hard-working white people" would not vote for Obama, and her raising the spectre of Robert Kennedy's assassination as a reason to stay in the race proved what unscrupulous, unprincipled, vicious and desperate people the Clintons are. How could any real Democrat support her after that performance? Talk about disgraceful. It was beyond disgraceful. It was disgusting. Hillary's hard core supporters need to grow up and look at the facts of her and her husband's behavior under pressure. This was not leadership. It was unadulterated, narcissistic petulance and vindictiveness. She lost because she deserved to lose. And she certainly doesn't deserve to be Obama's running mate. I say good riddance. Too bad she and slimy Bill probably won't just fade away. They will do whatever they can think of to stay in the limelight. Watch for more passive aggressive nonsense from these two. As a born Stevenson-Clark-Dilworth Democrat, I have never been more ashamed of the Democratic Party, than in witnessing this spectacle. Congratulations to Obama for running a brilliant campaign. Let's all hope that he's as good as his billing and the campaign organization he built. And let's hope enough Republicans cross over to vote for him to cancel out the Clinton sore loser faction.
Posted 09:29 PM, 06/04/2008
Archimedes
First, I can say that I listened to Obama for most of his major speeches and quite a few minor appearances and never have heard him say anything disparaging about Hillary. OF course, there may have been some Obama supporters who were disrespectful, but he asked them clearly not to be. Second, I tried to start this campaign with an open mind toward all the Democratic candidates and came to appreciate Chris Dodd especially in the early days. When it came down to Hillary and Barack, it was apparent that Barack was clearly the best organized candidate and would bring that sense of effective government to a nation sorely in need of it after the past 7 years while Hillary floundered in deficit financing. And third, when it came to foreign policy, I tried to forgive Hillary her vote for the Iraq War (although I had written her at the time that I could never forgive her if she voted with Bush on Iraq), but as the campaign continued and she vowed to obliterate Iran and to maintain the policy of ignoring our enemies--except for calling them names from a distance--I knew that there was no way that I could support her. In short, Barack is a gentleman, a manager, and a leader, but she is none of the above.
Posted 10:00 PM, 06/04/2008
mike l
Didderbops said it all: where did Barack Obama ever say anything disparaging about hillary? Yes, he disagreed with her policies, yes he answered back when she downed him about not being ready. But he never disparaged her, always went out of his way (most candidates wouldn't, including hillary) to praise his opponent as a tough competitor and a strong candidate. If that is some people's idea of disparaging remarks, man, they got a lot to learn. Wonder how they'd react if she did get the nom as the republicans truly wished and spent the next five months ripping her apart. BTW, she won't be on the ticket, one because Obama won't take the risk of her and bill trying to out-cheney dick cheney and two, if she is such a great senator, why stick her in the nothing job as senate president who does nothing other than break ties? With an overwhelming Dem win, she'd have nothing to do. Let her take the mantle from Ted Kennedy or replace Reid as leader.
Posted 10:15 PM, 06/04/2008
Grill
Obama-Clump '08 That's hill-iari-ous...
Posted 10:21 PM, 06/04/2008
lutton
She'd fill them long summer nights With her tenderness that secret pact you made Back when her love could save you from the bitterness Oh she's the one, oh she's the one
Posted 10:31 PM, 06/04/2008
Damgoodbodies
Yea Annabelle, no bitterness in you huh? You're a delusional as your candidate was. You're blaming the media for her getting beat? Don't blame her obvious arrogance in thinking that she was entitled to the nomination. Don't blame the fact that she used the same GOP tactics that she has so often complained about. You say Obama was condescending and disrespectful. The man was totally gracious and full of class when he spoke about her and her accomplishments last night. But I'm sure you missed that. She was out worked, out strategized and the bottom line is that more people "felt" Obama and bought into his vision. It's so telling of you to say "I'll vote for McCain and hope for the best." WOW! That really says it all. I can see that you really stand for something. Maybe if you're lucky you will be one of the token blacks that McCain will place behind him when he speaks here. I'm sure you'll be proud.
Posted 11:07 PM, 06/04/2008
skipintro
I'm tired tired tired of listening to the gloating, holier-than-thou Obamaniacs lord individual victories and now the final decision over Clinton supporters as if it might be heresy to vote against their little unexperienced Chosen One. It's utterly ridiculous for you to stake a claim to every square inch of the moral high ground while your candidate sailed through his own share of controversies like he was coated in teflon. You talk as if your boy had nothing to say but kind words for Clinton for the last 6 months. Ha. Clue up. This was a political campaign and he played it just the way she did -- he just had the advantage of a large contingent of blinded sycophants (present company included) that swoon like school girls whenever he turns a phrase or strikes a pose on a dais or anoints himself the next JFK or makes you feel better about yourself for voting for the underdog. Comments like "people *felt* Obama" and "Barack is a gentleman" and "let's all hope he's as good as his billing" PROVE that even his staunchest Stepford supporters can't surface a single tangible reason to vote for the man over anyone else. I can hear you all now in your bedrooms ogling your BO posters and clutching your fists to your chins... oooo, I can't believe he won... and he's just so cuuuute!
Posted 01:03 AM, 06/05/2008
yobill626
People who are Hillary supporters & claim to intend to vote for McCain need to chill the heck out. On most issues, BOTH candidates have said there is very little difference between them, yet a ocean between them & McCain. Hillary was W-A-Y in front, but blew it by misreading the nation's mood, creating a poor campaign plan & spending money early on like a sailor on shore leave. Those people truly interested in her causes & issues, and not hung up on hurt egos need to suck it up & vote for Obama in November.
Posted 07:18 AM, 06/05/2008
pog
Will, give it up. Obama can't win without the Clinton supporters. That was true from day one of this historic moment. Neither could Hillary without Obama. So, now that Obama has won, you'd think that his supporters would be smart enough to recognize that instead of categorizing Clinton supporters as 'bitter.' No, you don't know what bitter is.....bitter is what the Obama supporters will be when 'Camelot II' fails to deliver. I'd be more worried about that bitterness.
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