Also victorious last night: Homophobia
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Also victorious last night: Homophobia
All three Iowa Supreme Court justices up for retention election have been ousted from the bench.
Around 54 percent of Iowans voted not to retain each of the three judges: Supreme Court Chief Justice Marsha Ternus and associate justices Michael J. Streit and David L. Baker. The campaign for the judges ouster was based on the court’s unanimous 2009 ruling that legalized same-sex marriage in Iowa.
There were 74 judges, including three Supreme Court justices, on the ballot Tuesday. Only the Supreme Court justices, however, came anywhere close to being removed from the bench.
The highly charged campaign featured more than $1 million in spending against the judges from national anti-gay organizations like the Mississippi-based American Family Association, Washington, D.C.-based Family Research Council, Arizona-based Alliance Defense Fund, Georgia-based Faith & Freedom Coalition and New Jersey-based National Organization for Marriage. The campaign culminated in a 20-city bus tour across Iowa.
The groups pushing for ouster promised that this was simply the first battle in a nationwide war against gay marriage and gay rights.
But, but....didn't they hear Jon Stewart's moving speech on Saturday?
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Agreed, pj. Also, if the rights of marriage are essentially extended through civil unions, I don't really understand why marriage rights are that important (as leggy always talks about, attaching rights to marriage is discriminatory to those who choose not to marry). But even with that, and while I don't support the denial of the right to marry, as a matter of political expediency I would support intermediate goals. If that is the reason for Kerry and Obama to support civil unions as a policy, then I wouldn't say their stances are based on homophobic reasoning - but as I understand it, they've both said that their policies are based in their beliefs about who should or should not be extended marriage rights.— Talking point sleuth- "It's purely for political reasons. I was just having a little intellectual fun with you." If we all agree that pols act for reasons of political expediancy, why the heck does any sane person think they can fix things? If any thing, this basic realization would lead me to want them to do a lot less, not a lot more.— RG
Iggle - "The country wants JOBS fixed first. Any nonsense that addresses anything else will not be looked on favorably. " Excellent point. Lets hope this is true.— Les Ismore
Les, what about the drag on the economy caused by the Obamacare Plan? The WSJ has used the phrase businesses are on a capital and hiring strike...I like that description. They are terrified and have been made pensive by the last 2 yrs.
Is it possible the people of Iowa decided to vote out activist judges?? Do judges in Iowa have a party affiliation like in PA? The 54% figure seems in line with the Governors race. While I'm sure some people voted based on homophobic fears the idea that 54% of any state being homophobic seems ridiculous to me maybe there were other reasons.— bird11- RG, pols often act on the basis of principle,regardless of political expediency. Lincoln, nearing the end of his first term, in spring and summer of 1864, had pursued his principle of reunification of the Union by defeating not capitulating to the Confederacy. And the Overland Campaign had been disastrous for the Union. Lincoln's persistence cost him, as he was opposed by many in his own party and McClellan, no longer a general, formed a D platform of making peace, leaving slavery intact and dealing with it as a political matter after an armistice. There was talk that Lincoln couldn't win a second term. Political expediency for Lincoln would have been to adopt a peace at any price position. He did not. Fortunately three days after the Ds announced their platform, Atlanta fell to Sherman and Lincoln regained support.— pj katauskas
- The only thing that this government said was people want jobs. Exit polls indicate that 43% of voters felt unfavorably towards the GOP, while 41% felt unfavorably towards the Democrats. That should be enough to tell the Republicans that their agenda is rejected, but people vote out of desperation. For a historical perspective on this election, see 1938, then Democrats held control for a long time. Also, the best period of economic growth in US history occurred. That's just fact, so people who put America over party should hope for an outcome like that, because the right wing has no idea how to govern. Without a war, cold or otherwise, the Republicans don't have the ground to stand on. That's why they are forced to manufacture wars to keep themselves relevant.— HandNik
- {{{--_}}} They are terrified {{{---}}} I seriously love this one. Who, in their right mind, thinks that businesses make the decision to hire people only when economic growth is a stone cold lock? Did businesses fail to hire when taxes were higher under Clinton? Has anyone parroting that talking point bothered to look at the job growth number at the end of the Bush term in office and compared them to the numbers under Obama? Have any of them looked at the profits corporations have raked in through increasing productivity without hiring new employees? Do any of them think that the lack of hiring is related to the credit crisis which started during Bush's watch? You boy are hilarious.— Talking point sleuth
- "Who, in their right mind, thinks that businesses make the decision to hire people only when economic growth is a stone cold lock?" So companies typically hire during recessions? What they are looking for is legislative clarity. The rules around Obamacare are still up in the air, same with financial reform, and the EPA is still talking about emissions standards. These are all uncertainties weighing on the job market.— RG
- oops. You boyz are hilarious. Sorry.— Talking point sleuth
- "RG, pols often act on the basis of principle,regardless of political expediency." If it was so often, why'd you go back to Lincoln to give me an example? Lincoln's principles contributed to the death of hundreds of thousands.— RG
- {{{---}}} The rules around Obamacare are still up in the air, same with financial reform, and the EPA is still talking about emissions standards. {{{---}}] Yeah, good point, RG, because businesses failed to hire new workers when Clinton was pushing healthcare reform, and they didn't know what that would mean. And, of course, businesses have NEVER hired when financial reforms and/or environmental standards were being debated. And sure, manufacturers are not hiring because regulations for the financial sector are being discussed. You're hilarious, RG, just hilarious.— Talking point sleuth
- {{{---}}} Lincoln's principles contributed to the death of hundreds of thousands. {{{---}}} Good point, RG. Now watch, next one of those silly libz will point out that his political expediency also contributed to the end of the biggest stain in this country's history. Oh, right, I forgot, one of your favorite writers waxed poetic about his respect and love for the slave-holding aristocracy of the South, and wrote of how we'd have been better if the "betters" of that society (slave-holders) had won the Civil War. RG - maybe if you explain how Lincoln was a "dictator," you can get those libz to understand? Too funny.— Talking point sleuth
- Yeah TPS, we'll lsiten to you isntead of actual business leaders who are stating the same thing. You do realize Clinton never passed hc reform, don't you?— RG
- TPS...at the risk of ruining my afternoon, gays do have the same rights afforded non gays....They are free, as I am, to marry any woman in the world.
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