Also victorious last night: Homophobia
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Also victorious last night: Homophobia
All three Iowa Supreme Court justices up for retention election have been ousted from the bench.
Around 54 percent of Iowans voted not to retain each of the three judges: Supreme Court Chief Justice Marsha Ternus and associate justices Michael J. Streit and David L. Baker. The campaign for the judges ouster was based on the court’s unanimous 2009 ruling that legalized same-sex marriage in Iowa.
There were 74 judges, including three Supreme Court justices, on the ballot Tuesday. Only the Supreme Court justices, however, came anywhere close to being removed from the bench.
The highly charged campaign featured more than $1 million in spending against the judges from national anti-gay organizations like the Mississippi-based American Family Association, Washington, D.C.-based Family Research Council, Arizona-based Alliance Defense Fund, Georgia-based Faith & Freedom Coalition and New Jersey-based National Organization for Marriage. The campaign culminated in a 20-city bus tour across Iowa.
The groups pushing for ouster promised that this was simply the first battle in a nationwide war against gay marriage and gay rights.
But, but....didn't they hear Jon Stewart's moving speech on Saturday?
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If the English language were used correctly, there'd be very few occasions to use the term "homophobe" to describe opposition to gay marriage. Literally the term means "fear of homosexuals." Although I'm sure there are some who oppose gay marriage because of an overweaning fear of homosexuals, I'd guess the vast majority (like the Michael Medveds of the world and BO and John Kerry) base their opposition on a combination of religious belief and clinging (BO clings, yes)to the traditional view of marriage as being between a mand and a woman.— pj katauskas- {{{---}} If one uses a "homophobic rationale" on one subject, marriage, doesn't that make that person "homopnobic" as to that subject? {{{---}}} Not necessarily. In the case of politicians, it's usually the case of them staking out their position with an eye towards political expediency. No doubt, there are Democratic politicians who would support something like affirmative action yet still not want their daughter to marry a minority. On the other side, no doubt there are politicians who support policies that are based in Islamopobia but who don't associate all Muslims with Islamic extremists. You can never tell with politicians - it's the nature of the beast.— Talking point sleuth
- {{{---}}} Literally the term means "fear of homosexuals." {{{---}}} Not true, pj. It's funny that you'd refer to the literal meaning and yet get it wrong. "Homophobe" means that the person has "fear or contempt" of/for homosexuals. One can hold beliefs based in homophobia without fearing or have contempt for homosexuals. In the case of Kerry/Obama, but guess is that both actually have no problem with gay marriage, but have simply staked out the position they fell is most politically expedient. It could be that they staked that position out because they feel that it establishes a path towards a longer-term goal, but I doubt it. My guess is that they're simply trying to enhance their electoral chances. That's what politicians do, on both sides of the fence.— Talking point sleuth
- TPS, you completely avoided my pointed question. I know it must pain you to admit that your beloved BO and other D libs are homophobic when it comes to the subject marriage, at least using that term inaccurately, as has become the case in this vernacular. But logic, if you care to be logical, takes you to the "yes" answer, unpleasant as that is for you. Yes, I can honestly say that, TPS, with one exception -- I am afraid of radical Islam. Are you not?— pj katauskas
Stupid, (fill in the blank)phobic, poor messaging...the day after analysis AND THEY STILL DON'T GET IT.- In the vernacular, TPS, "homophobe" has come to be used as meaning "fear of homosexuals." Surely that's how Will meant it in his title and article.— pj katauskas
- {{{---}}} I know it must pain you to admit that your beloved BO and other D libs are homophobic when it comes to the subject marriage, at least using that term inaccurately, as has become the case in this vernacular. {{{---}}} Not in the least, pj. They may very well be homophobes. I have no idea, and it makes little difference to me. What I care about is what policies they do or don't support. Their reasoning behind their positions on gay marriage is based in homophobic rationale. It doesn't bother me in the least to say that. It's simply reality. That doesn't mean, however, that in balance I don't find them to be the lesser or evils when I enter the voting booth.— Talking point sleuth
- I remember seeing Steve Forbes speak at the Kimmel Center about a year and a half ago, not campaigning for anything, and he made the point that I'd been making for a long time to my gay friends. Go for civil unions instead of pushing for gay marriage and in time, maybe 10-20 years, gay marriage will come about by evolution.— pj katauskas
"Also victorious last night: People who work hard and produce " How did produce win last night?— Les Ismore- Uh, pj, Will used the term homophobia, not homophobe. Maybe in you're "vernacular" homophobe means fear or contempt of homosexuals, but in my "vernacular" it means a person who is afraid or contemptuous of homosexuals. It's the difference between a person and attitudes or beliefs.— Talking point sleuth
Comment removed.- "What I care about is what policies they do or don't support." They favor wealth redistribution and increased government. So you ignore their corruption, racism, and homphobia.— RG
///Opposing gay marriage is the exact equivalent to homophobia//// How so, HandNik? Personally I think it should be allowed, but I don't think being against it equals homophobia. It's interesting you express that opinion yet give only a tangential reason as to why.- Handnik, I agree. Exit polls indicate that that 41% of the American voting public has a negative view of Republicans, not much but higer than their disapproval rating of the Democrats, so essentially the voters put in a party they hate even more just so they could vote someone out. So, replacing an unpopular party with an even MORE unpopular party...interesting.— Les Ismore
- {{{---}}} Go for civil unions instead of pushing for gay marriage and in time, maybe 10-20 years, gay marriage will come about by evolution. {{{---}}} In that we are in agreement, pj. It is the politically expedient thing to do. That doesn't mean, however, that believing that only non-gays should have the right to marry isn't rooted in homophobic beliefs. Would you say that the belief that blacks and whites shouldn't be allowed to marry isn't a racist belief? No doubt, to use Will's explanation, there were many who were educated from birth that marriage was defined as a union between people of the same race, that people of different races should have no such right. Would the fact that their belief was a product of their upbringing mean that their belief wasn't based in racism?— Talking point sleuth
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