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Thursday, July 17, 2008

 

The liberal Democratic base is already feeling edgy about Barack Obama's various centrist moves, but the big test is yet to come. Will he choose a running mate who amplifies and underscores his message of change (thereby triggering exhalations of relief within the base) - or will he pick somebody for the sake of "balance," who appears to contradict his message of change (thereby triggering cries of betrayal, and even some vows to sit out the November election)?

In recent days, it's been clear that the base is on the case. After Obama appeared publicly this week with Evan Bayh, the U.S. senator who has won several landslides in red-state Indiana, the word went out that Bayh's closet skeletons render him unacceptable as a fellow change agent. The problem, apparently, is Iraq. He voted for war authorization in 2002. Worse yet, in February of 2003, while President Bush and minions were in the home stretch of dragging America into war, Bayh signed up as honorary co-chairman of a group called The Committee for the Liberation Iraq, thus sharing membership with two of his hawkish colleagues, Joe Lieberman and...John McCain.

Apparently, some time between 2003 and 2005, Bayh's name vanished from the group's masthead, but that's probably not enough to assuage the liberal base. He has never renounced his war vote, and his subsequent attacks on President Bush's execution of the war ("not enough troops, no plan for the aftermath," as I heard him say at an '06 fundraiser) haven't sounded all that different from the criticisms voiced by McCain.

On the other hand, Bayh arguably could help Obama expand the '08 political map. Even if it's a stretch to think that he can put Indiana in play, he does knows how to talk to red-state voters, and that could benefit Obama elsewhere. That's what "balance" can potentially bring to a ticket; the risk is that the base will assail Obama as too much the traditional politician for deciding that way.

The same is true for Sam Nunn, the former senator (and national security expert) from red-state Georgia. He too appeared with Obama this week, parrying all questions about his availability as a running mate. Obama is clearly interested in contesting Georgia, which has a large black population, and also is home to third-party Libertarian candidate Bob Barr, who might bleed some conservative votes away from McCain. Nunn, at least on paper, might aid Obama's efforts to put Georgia in play. The problem for many Obama fans, however, is that Nunn hardly seems like the kind of guy who should co-helm a grassroots political movement. For one thing, he sits on a lot of corporate boards, and liberal activists are reflexively wary of big corporations. And in general, as blogger/activist Chris Bowers wrote recently, "Putting a 70-year old, white, southern, corporate dude on the ticket would almost entirely wipe away any notion that Obama is a 'change' candidate."

For "change" candidates, there are two basic templates: John F. Kennedy went for balance in 1960, and picked Lyndon Johnson; furious liberals complained that choosing the Senate wheeler-dealer undercut the promise of the New Frontier. But 32 years later Bill Clinton chose to amplify his change message by picking a young fellow southerner, Al Gore. I'll leave it to the historians to debate whether Kennedy or Clinton would have won their races if they had embraced the opposite templates. The point is, Obama could go either way in the interests of winning.

I tend to think that a running-mate deemed unacceptable by the base will not ultimately damage Obama's prospects, if only because anger over a veep choice tends to dissipate quickly in the heat of late summer. Nevertheless, Obama's decision may well open a valuable window on how he thinks, on how he weighs idealism against pragmatism.

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And speaking of pragmatism, here's one more thought on the New Yorker cover flap:

All the public attention is being paid to the cartoon, and its caricature of Obama as an anti-establishment revolutionary. Virtually no public attention is being paid to the article that actually appears inside the magazine, a lengthy profile of Obama during his days as a fast-rising Chicago politician. At one point, Ryan Lizza writes this:

"Perhaps the greatest misconception about Barack Obama is that he is some sort of anti-establishment revolutionary. Rather, every stage of his political career has been marked by an eagerness to accommodate himself to existing institutions rather than tear them down or replace them. When he was a community organizer, he channelled his work through Chicago’s churches, because they were the main bases of power on the South Side. He was an agnostic when he started, and the work led him to become a practicing Christian. At Harvard, he won the presidency of the Law Review by appealing to the conservatives on the selection panel. In Springfield (Illinois), rather than challenge the Old Guard Democratic leaders, Obama built a mutually beneficial relationship with them...In his downtime, he played poker with lobbyists and Republican lawmakers. In Washington, he has been a cautious senator and, when he arrived, made a point of not defining himself as an opponent of the Iraq war...He campaigns on reforming a broken political process, yet he has always played politics by the rules as they exist, not as he would like them to exist. He runs as an outsider, but he has succeeded by mastering the inside game. He is ideologically a man of the left, but at times he has been genuinely deferential to core philosophical insights of the right."

The millions of willfully ignorant Americans who are spooked by the notion of Obama-as-radical would probably feel better about the guy if they knew all that. But they're not likely to, not in a culture where the power of an image typically trumps the written word. Tragically so.

 

Posted by Dick Polman @ 1:07 PM  Permalink | 37 comments
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Posted 01:16 PM, 07/17/2008
bon
That is interesting spin Mr. Polman. You seem to long for a more educated public that would see Obama is not going to turn the country on its head as president, but you forget that Obama started that meme. Obama is the one who made "change" his mantra. It is his image as a revolutionary that won him the primary. If Obama's biggest fans knew that he was little more than a machine politician they would be crushed. They think they are supporting a revolutionary. It is very odd to see Obama supporters complaining that the public buys Obama's own narrative.
Posted 01:55 PM, 07/17/2008
jmc
"The millions of willfully ignorant Americans who are spooked by Obama..." It's gotta be their willful ignorance. After all, it can't be his far left socialist ideology that's the problem. I mean, doesn't everybody just love liberalism?
Posted 02:03 PM, 07/17/2008
jwad56
jmc please stop with the right wing talking points.
Posted 02:25 PM, 07/17/2008
Talvenada
Talvenada: Sorry... I am not sure I understand your post. Of course there is a price too high in theory. A couple more years of dwindling violence to achieve a stable, democratic Iraq is not a price too high, though. (I am not sure what you are trying to say about "justified war." Is deposing a anti-American, genocidal dictator "unjustified"?) ...................................................................... BON, I waited for a fresh forum to continue w/ you on this unjustified war. Your point was removing Saddam justified starting the war, and I disagree. I disagreed in 11/01 when the subject started at a news conf. from Camp David. I felt Osama was the threat, and not Iraq, Iran, No. Korea & Syria. Colin said we could not afford the cost of this war, and I agree. Our Natl. Guard is thin here at home to cover disasters, which are becoming common place. The ones that came back did not bring back their equip. The economy is in a downward spiral, and the cost of the war has to be connected. Only certain companies made/make money from it, while it's a drain elsewhere. I feel the war cost injured the economy, and now its weight will be more pronounced. Besides, who decided that we decide which countries are run correctly, and which are not to our liking. We didn't have the funds required to alter life in another part of the world, like No. Korea and Iran. Talk about theory: all the Iraqi lives we saved. How many lost their lives during this war from day 1, not day 1 of the surge? Yet, what I hear are 2 stories from Publicans. Iraqi lives that will be saved and improved is paramount, while the ones lost in the war that are of value are only American lives. This is what it sounds like when you hear it. Iraqi lives are important only if they support a favored argument. BTW, I don't think all the dead, maimed and ruined lives due to this war see it as a theory. It's only a theory from the comfort of a living room or Oval Office.
Posted 02:33 PM, 07/17/2008
Talvenada
JMC.................SPOOKED???............If you're a Neo-Con, everybody else is an extremist or Lib. I'm a Mod, which means different than YOU !!!
Posted 02:44 PM, 07/17/2008
Fredclaims
Enough already, nobody votes for the vice president. They did not prior to the 12th amendment and after the 12th amendment.
Posted 03:50 PM, 07/17/2008
CB
Talvenada, didn't you ever notice that everyone on the far left thinks they are a moderate?
Posted 04:03 PM, 07/17/2008
Gibba Mang
bon: The "change" that Obama is running on is change from the neo conservative policies that started in 1992. I have no disillion that Obama is a policitican, but what excites me about him is that he is intelligent and thoughtful in his ideas. His opposition to the Iraq war and willingness to go after AQ is just. John McCain was once an interesting choice but his willingness to swallow his pride and ethics to team up with Bush Co has made him a poor choice in my eyes. You can throw around the liberal label all you want. I was once a registered Republican, voted for both Reagan and Bush I. But I became an Independent after the impeachment of Bill Clinton. It was clear that the Republican Party had changed for the worse after that event. Throw in their actions around Terri Schiavo and the bungeling of Katrina and it is clear to me the Republican Party has nothing to offer me or my family. The Republican Party of now has become what the Democratic Party was in the 70's and 80's, self absorbed and bloated.
Posted 04:03 PM, 07/17/2008
Talvenada
CB, Nice shot!! I'm a very slightly left-of-center Mod. Generally, I'm for Dems, but not always. I was never for Carter w/ his ton of promises, but instead for status-quo Ford. I'm not for Conserv Dems either, like Dean. That said, I would be for a Conserv B4 any Neo-Con. In other words, I'd favor Hagel over Bush. Also, I don't do talking points, because all that is BS w/ a bow.
Posted 04:08 PM, 07/17/2008
chazzbo
I guess I'm just one of the "millions of willfully ignorant", though I would use the word suspicious instead of spooked. More than anything, this article just further cements the notion that I can't believe a word that comes out of this guy's mouth. Do we REALLY need another chameleonic politician? Where are the real leaders? Both parties are utterly bankrupt.
Posted 04:15 PM, 07/17/2008
James TL
It's the same as neocons calling themselves mainstream republicans. They really aren't. Or at least they wouldn't have been considered that in the not so distant past.
Posted 04:18 PM, 07/17/2008
chrissmith
As a Republican, I am slowly getting ready for the fact that Obama will probably be our next president. But then it's going to be so much fun watching the country really get what it asked for: higher taxes, far-left social policies, sissies running our national security...it will be comedy for me 24/7. So it's a win-win situation even if McCain loses. And there are some really good Republicans working their way up who will definitely run in 2012 and 2016. Keep a close eye on Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska and Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana. These are two extrordinary, young people. It helps that one is a female and the other is Indian. These are the people of the new Republican Party.
Posted 04:19 PM, 07/17/2008
Christine
Dick Polman writes: The millions of willfully ignorant Americans who are spooked by Obama would probably feel better about the guy if they knew all that. But they're not likely to, not in a culture where the power of an image always trumps the written word. Tragically so. Mr. Polman, you are forgetting how the power of the 'written word' can be as apocalyptic and effective as symbols. Look at the "Protocol of the Elders of Zion" and "Mein Kampf" and anything that ever appeared in "Pravda." It's a false and somewhat elitist assumption that 'words' SHOULD trump image. Depends on what those 'words' are saying, doesn't it?
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Posted 04:57 PM, 07/17/2008
Djoko Pritza
Hey, chrissmith, I would welcome a new Republican Party. I'm not anti-Repub, just the bunch that's been in power since the Gingrich devolution. We need Obama because we need to sweep the current Repub Party out. Then, we can begin again with sane politics. Our country deserves better.
Posted 05:33 PM, 07/17/2008
pajamas
Generally speaking, people are basically lazy. Slow to do tasks and certainly it is easier to look at an image that might re-inforce your preconceived notions, than to actually plow through a lengthy New Yorker piece. I remember the concern from some on the right regarding Howard Dean in 2004. His election would mean the end of the Republic and capitalism, as we know them. My heavens, he was from a WASP NY family, went to Yale and Columbia, his family was involved successfully on Wall Street, but some acted like Mr. Dean was Stalin reincarnated.
Posted 05:34 PM, 07/17/2008
tom - wilmington, de
Many politicos (Chris Matthews for one) believe Biden will be the Veep for Obama. If that is the case, then get ready for some real fun soundbites. Funny how Sebelius of Kansas is not mentioned anywhere, since her name is also mentioned quite a lot. I believe Bayh would have been HRC's running mate, but he is too stiff for Obama. Nunn has no shot IMHO. I'd like to see Biden chosen...at least that would get him out of the Senate. However, it is interesting how the article in the New Yorker seems to intimate that Obama is just another politician AND maybe not as liberal as many would believe him to be. Wouldn't that be a kick in the pants to the Left if he wins in November and proves to be more moderate than they thought. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Talvenada is still debating the start of the war and espousing all the Democrat talking points.
Posted 05:46 PM, 07/17/2008
CB
Talvenada, You are honest, I too consider myself a moderate, but just to the right of center. Once upon a time I voted for McGovern before I began paying taxes. Since then strictly Rep. Guess I'm probably fooling myself on being moderate.
Posted 05:53 PM, 07/17/2008
CB
This past weekend, my wife and I hosted 23 young teachers and social workers from 14 different countries who are doing voluntee work with high school kids in the area. They needed rest after 2 long weeks. Interesting that 5 were muslim from Middle Eastern countries. When talking about the election they all agreed that according to Islamic law, Obama being born of a muslim man (the woman's faith does not matter) he is a muslim regardless of what he choses. Thank goodness we can choose in the US. Unfortunately, according to many in the world Obama is a muslim whether he acknowledges it or not.
Posted 06:07 PM, 07/17/2008
gloriousglo2
...Prove BO is NOT a Muslim?....Easy....I saw him drinking a beer and having a ham sandwich in a pub in Bethlehem, PA during the PA primary....next!
Posted 06:10 PM, 07/17/2008
gloriousglo2
"There are people who say"......a common enjoinder usually preceeding a "news" story on Fox....
Posted 06:24 PM, 07/17/2008
gloriousglo2
If you are a rube from, say, York PA, and you're buying into things like evolution being a Communist plot, the New Yorker cover isn't going to change anything, because you're not voting for the black guy even if he started paying down the deficit by passing golden eggs. I don't see how this will influence anything; doubt the number of subscribers to the NYer west of the Susquehanna is beyonf double digits....
Posted 06:26 PM, 07/17/2008
ClarkU
Maybe if people had actually read "Mein Kampf", but reading takes too much time, requires comprehension, and is way too difficult for the average American. Better to rely on Rush's analysis than to think for yourself. And what if he is a Muslim? Is that illegal?
Posted 07:28 PM, 07/17/2008
bon
Interesting article for Mr. Ploman. It seems Mrs. Fiorina might be a good ambassador to women after all :) http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/07/16/mccain-surrogate-fiorina-meets-with-clinton-supporters/ ----- Gibba Mang: I don't doubt that some Obama supporters want a run of the mill, machine Democrat. I would submit to you that Obama has not run as one, though, and in fact attacked Hillary Clinton as a machine politician throughout the primaries.
Posted 10:17 PM, 07/17/2008
Djoko Pritza
Mr. Polman makes an important point. Obama is a politician in the best sense. He will work within the system. He will upset left and right alike, but he will get good things done. He has a real chance to beat McCain. That is why party apparatchiks like my good friend bon are so desperate to paint him a radical. That is the Repub's only hope.
Posted 10:53 PM, 07/17/2008
bon
Djoko Pritza: Obama spent the primaries telling us that the system itself was broken. He said Hillary Clinton was more of the same, but he was different. If he intends on simply working within the system he railed against as broken, then he is a fraud and he owes Senator Clinton an apology.
Posted 02:31 AM, 07/18/2008
yobill626
chrissmith: I agree wholeheartedly with Djoko Pritza. Our system works best when both parties compete effectively for the Center, which the Bush/Rove/Cheney NeoCons refused to do. It would have been great having a Republican running this country on 9/11 --- if that Republican was Eisenhower, or even Gerry Ford. Instead, we got Numbnutz...
Posted 03:02 AM, 07/18/2008
yobill626
For many reasons, Joe Biden as VP makes the most sense for Obama. Like Tom, I would think he would be a very entertaining running mate --- like watching McCain's reaction when Joe tells the nation McCain doesn't know what he's talking about. He would certainly move the office of VP in a much healthier direction. If an Obama/Biden victory were to come to pass, how fascinating would the Biden/Cheney "pass the torch" meetings be in January?
Posted 09:21 AM, 07/18/2008
frankg962
You know I wish the everyone, the Democrats and the Republicans would admit that taxes are going up. When you look at the debts that have been run up over the last 30+ years, there's no way that taxes can't go up. Anyone who tells you they're going to cut your taxes, or won't raise your taxes is lying to you.
Posted 09:27 AM, 07/18/2008
Djoko Pritza
Hey, bon, I don't know what to say to your last post, except maybe "you gotta be kiddin'!" McCain needs more realistic people than you to help him if he plans on winning.
Posted 09:41 AM, 07/18/2008
Djoko Pritza
Veep-wise, I felt Jim Watt would have offered everything Biden does, and Virginia, too, and without the incredible diarrhea of the mouth (the Joe guy truly is amazingly unable to shut up, seriously amazingly), but Watt's many stumbles in dealing with women is fatal, especially in this Hillary year. So, I'll say a little prayer and cast my lot with Gabbin' Joe. yobill calls it right: It WOULD be entertaining!
Posted 09:55 AM, 07/18/2008
Djoko Pritza
frank962, I'm with ya on taxes. We need a responsible tax system, not no-tax system, as the SSLs (Supply Side Loonies) argue. The SSLs have reinforced the notion among mental backwoodsmen that taxes are theft. This is a big country with major needs. You've got to get the money somewhere. I don't want a president, or lawmakers, who have taken a pledge to a group of gadflies (Norquist's Americans for Tax Reform) to never raise taxes no matter what (war, anyone?). I want people running the government with the courage to make tough decisions, not those who hide behind the skirts of political dilettantes. McCain, btw, has taken the pledge.
Posted 10:29 AM, 07/18/2008
birdsfaninnc
CB, didn't you ever notice that everyone on the right thinks they're a moderate?
Posted 10:53 AM, 07/18/2008
bon
Djoko Pritza: So you are alright with Obama saying he is one thing when he is precisely the opposite? That seems more like old politics than anything new. Again, Obama railed against the system (D.C.) for more than a year. It is pretty disingenuous for his supporters to laud his ability to work within the system after he spent two years promising to change it.
Posted 11:07 AM, 07/18/2008
puttinonthefoil
The debt. It's getting... bigger. I blame congress. Let's borrow more and throw it at already wealthy companies helping to reconstruct Iraq. Obama should opt for the conservative choice in his VP selection. The country needs balance, not ideologues pushing eachother around like schoolkids on a playground (see: this forum). Politics should be about getting things done, not some political party winning so you can put a bumper sticker on your car like your team won the Super Bowl or something.
Posted 11:11 AM, 07/18/2008
bon
puttinonthefoil: If that is you philosophy than McCain is a lot closer to what you are looking for than Obama. McCain has a very long, bipartisan legislative record while Obama's is neither long nor bipartisan. Obama, also, not only voted in favor of the most egregious example of corporate welfare that the federal government partakes in, the farm bill, but he attacked McCain for opposing it.
Posted 01:40 PM, 07/19/2008
AHiredGun
Palin & Jindal? They are just two more bible-pushing neocons looking to turn our country into a theocracy. If they are all the Republican Party has to offer, it is in BIG trouble.
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