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Friday, August 1, 2008

 

Otto Fuerbringer died the other day. The odds are high that you've never heard of him, and that alone is a good reason for invoking him here - even if it means taking a break from the latest Obama-McCain tit-for-tats. Fuerbringer was a crucially important figure at a pivotal moment in our '60s political history, a flesh-and-blood refutation of the falsehood that America is supposedly dominated by a "liberal media." More specifically, Fuerbringer, by his actions, refuted the enduring right-wing canard about how the "liberal media" supposedly "lost" the war in Vietnam.

On the contrary, Fuerbringer - as the most powerful editor at America's most powerful magazine, in an era when that magazine guided the national discourse and helped shape its politics - was actually pivotal in enabling the expansion of that war...despite the warnings from his own Vietnam correspondents that we were headed for disaster.

Fuerbringer, nicknamed "the Iron Chancellor," brooked little dissent while running the day to day operations at Time magazine. It's hard to imagine today, but back then Time magazine, with its millions of heartland readers, was a crucial player. And, as chronicled by a number of authors (most notably, ex-Vietnam correspondent David Halberstam in "The Powers That Be"), Otto Fuerbringer was a political conservative who trusted the word of the Pentagon. Back in the early '60s, the Pentagon told him that Vietnam could be won at a relatively small cost in American blood and treasure. The problem was that Fuerbringer's best reporter on the ground, Charlie Mohr, felt quite the opposite - and repeatedly wrote highly pessimistic dispatches (known in Time lingo as "files"), based on what his non-official sources were telling him and what he was witnessing with his own eyes.

The result was that very little of what Mohr wrote ever got into print - and, generally, the material from his files that did get into print was heavily rewritten by the editors...to reflect the government's official optimism. When Mohr complained one too many times, Fuerbringer retaliated by ordering up a critical story about the American press corps in Saigon. When the Time reporter assigned to the story produced a draft that Fuerbringer deemed too tepid, the editor demanded several rewrites. In the end, Halberstam recounts in his book, the final version "was virtually dictated by Fuerbringer. It took the straight Pentagon line, with a touch of the White House, and was a violent, all-out attack upon the reporters in Vietnam."

Meanwhile, during this same week in 1963, Mohr sent in a long, pessimistic file - his bleakest yet - about the war's potential impact on America. A young writer at the magazine's New York headquarters was assigned the task of shaping the file for publication - an unenviable task, of course, since he wanted to respect what Mohr had written, without somehow ticking off Fuerbringer. The writer was John Gregory Dunne, later to become a prominent journalist and novelist. In an interview three decades later, Dunne recounted what happened next:

"Charlie Mohr was one of the first to say that this war isn't going to fly. He was by no means a liberal; he just saw it on the basis of his reporting. One week we did a wrapup on the war, and Charlie sent in a file, the first sentence of which was, 'The war in Vietnam is being lost.' It was a Friday night, and I said to myself, 'Uh oh, this is never going into the magazine. I had dinner with Joan (his fiancee), and I said, 'I think I'm going to call in sick.' She said, 'No, you've got to go back and do it.' So I went back and did the story based on the file, trying to put in the qualifiers that would get past Otto Fuerbringer, and went home around three in the morning. The next morning, the edited copy was on my desk, and on the top it said, 'Nice. F.'" (That was Fuerbringer's customary way of approving a story.)

But, as Dunne recalled, there was a big problem with the edited copy: "It was the complete opposite of what Charlie's file was and what I had written. Redone from top to bottom."

Mohr quit the magazine, and Dunne told his superiors that he no longer wished to work on Vietnam stories. Fuerbringer then decreed that Dunne should pay the price for speaking out; thereafter, he was assigned to write stories about places like Lichtenstein. So he quit the magazine, too.

None of this had any impact on Fuerbringer, of course. Two years later, he toured Vietnam and the Pentagon briefers showed him one of the new military bases. The editor was impressed. He told his listeners, "I know how to end the war tomorrow, quickly. Bring five Vietcong generals here to see this, and they'll surrender." In fact, Fuerbringer said this to the guy who had replaced Charlie Mohr in Saigon - but that reporter's skeptical files didn't sit well with Fuerbringer either, and, within a year, he was yanked from the Saigon bureau.

So the next time you hear complaints about the "liberal media," remember Otto Fuerbringer and the tale of how, at a crucial juncture in our history, the most powerful magazine editor in America adhered to his beliefs by refusing to let the facts get in the way. Sort of like the people who invoke the term "liberal media."

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Speaking of history, we can't end this week without noting the latest report by the Inspector General at the U.S. Justice Department - and wondering anew how it was possible that an attorney general (Bush crony Alberto Gonzales) could have nary a clue that a young party hack in his own office (Monica Goodling) was screening non-partisan job applicants for ideological purity...in violation of federal law.

I recall how Goodling described herself 14 months ago, as "a fairly quiet girl who tries to do the right thing and tries to treat people kindly along the way." Well, according to the IG report, released the other day, this is what Goodling considered to be kind treatment:

Ousting an assistant U.S. attorney, and blocking the official from further assignments, based on Goodling's belief that this woman was gay; rejecting a qualified applicant for a non-partisan counter-terrorism job because the applicant's wife happened to be a Democrat; spurning applicants who didn't share her views about (in her words) "gods, guns + gays"; screening out any applicant who didn't meet the required conservative litmus tests that defined someone as (in her words) "a good American."

It's illegal under federal law to screen civil service applicants for ideological purity and thus compromise the independence of the Justice Department. It's well known by now, of course, that the Bush regime's practices have been unprecedented, and it's no surprise that nobody higher up the food chain (Gonzales, and, needless to say, Bush) has stepped forward to take responsibility.

Perhaps the historians can sort out who knew what, and when they stopped knowing it. After all, Bush himself has often said that the verdict on his tenure will be rendered by the historians. Starting with that IG report, he's giving them plenty to work with.

 

Posted by Dick Polman @ 10:52 AM  Permalink | 85 comments
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Posted 01:28 PM, 08/04/2008
dutchman
This story happened 45 years ago, which is really a pathetic statement when you are trying to discuss current events. Are any of the individuals from this cute story even alive? If you want to know the media's position in politics, just look at how the 3 TV anchors chased after Obama like little lap dogs. That has never happened before and if the rating reports are true, it won't happen again. I guess from where DP sits, the average journalist looks like a conservative. This is more a comment on DP's far left position than a comment on the real world. And if the media were controlled by the conservatives, they would at least have enough sense to put out a product which sells so they could stay in business. Last I looked, the liberal MSM's are laying off because they can't sell their swill to the public.
Posted 12:07 PM, 08/04/2008
p-diddy
Has Obama even mentioned the words "civil liberties" or "The Patriot Act" on the campaign trail? Where's the debate we all hoped was coming? This isn't the way to win an election!
Posted 12:01 PM, 08/04/2008
p-diddy
yobill626: If you are suggesting that the Democrats have been too forceful in pushing their agenda (whatever that is), I think you're insane. I know Obama backed the wiretapping/domestic spying program, and now he's hedging on offshore drilling. Even "moderate" Democratic voters wanted the wiretapping program to be brought into line with FISA. Since regaining the majority in 2006, the Democrats have granted the Bush administration and big telephone companies immunity for illegal wiretapping, declared a branch of the Iranian military a terrorist organization and stuffed the recent Foreclosure Prevention Act with far more goodies for big lenders than for struggling homeowners. They also confirmed Attorney General Michael Mukasey despite his refusal to disavow torture — a move engineered by Chuck Schumer - all in the spirit of "bipartisanship", I guess. For crying out loud, we're talking about torture! This goes right to the heart of why the Democratic party is seen as a weak, indecisive party that stands for nothing. For once, I'd like to see the candidates attack each other over meaningful issues - like offshore drilling. Obama should have called offshore drilling a stupid idea for all the reasons in my last post, then went on to accuse McCain of pandering to short term delusions in an election cycle. Instead, what we have are candidates who are mostly the same, who manufacture silly "debate" over personal style, age, wives, etc. And please let's leave Nader out of this. The Democrats lost in 2000 and 2004 because they ran timid campaigns. The Republicans were aggressive. What we're seeing from the Democratic party is not bipartisanship, it is collusion. Why not just go all the way and support the Republican candidate, like that great bipartisan statesman Joe Lieberman?
Posted 10:44 AM, 08/04/2008
JeffA
There are lies and there are outright lies. Or perhaps just people who are misinformed. Tom, according to the CDC, "A person was defined as uninsured if he or she did not have any private health insurance, Medicare, Medicaid, State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), state-sponsored or other government-sponsored health plan, or military plan." RE: SCHIP There's a funding shortfall this year that Bush Admin tried to fill but our do-nothing Congress has not acted upon, leaving 17 states without the funding to cover about half a million eligible children. Once again, the parties are not so different- both willing to score political points at the expense of Americans. In this case, the Democrats would rather bail out irresponsible homeowners than kids.
Posted 01:14 AM, 08/04/2008
yobill626
p-diddy: Of course I don't. However, politicians who aren't able to make compromises don't win. This is America, & our whole system is based on sometimes having to make compromises with lots of people who you might think are either stupid or misinformed. If you can educate or inform them, you stand a chance, but even then you can still lose. I am against off shore drilling (& very suspicious of anything that the oil companies want), but I'm not the only citizen in this country. McCain's been around making compromises for a long time --- so long, that the Far Right doesn't trust him. Good for him. Obama is showing the Far Left that they can't trust him either. It is partisanship, our inability to work with each other, that is killing this country. I respect both McCain & Obama because they're showing an ability to make adjustments or compromises in order to move forward (I myself do not support McCain, because he's also shown a much too close of an adherance to Bush's policies, which I feel have proven to be disastrous). How many thousands of Liberals in Florida in 2000 have wished over the last 8 years they could have compromised just a little & voted for Gore instead of Ralphie-boy? My own philosophy is state your position, fight hard to get it accepted, then cut the best deal & move on to the next problem...
Posted 11:22 PM, 08/03/2008
JeffA
Tom, Pdiddy - On the uninsured: the CDC staetes there are 43.6 million uninsured Americans. "A person was defined as uninsured if he or she did not have any private health insurance, Medicare, Medicaid, State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), state-sponsored or other government-sponsored health plan, or military plan." http://www.cdc.gov/Features/Uninsured/ CLEARLY Tom, you either misread or were misled about the make-up of the 40+ million uninsured Americans. - Jeff
Posted 07:00 PM, 08/03/2008
p-diddy
youbill: You think the candidates' willingness to suck up to stupidity is a good thing? Because that's what it is. It's why McCain is a regular churchgoer in recent months. It's why Obama has caved on the idiotic fantasy that offshore drilling will show any near term benefits (hopefully right off the Jersey shore's bacteria infested beaches). If anything, it will disincentive the need to find alternative fuels in the near future, delaying what is inevitable. But I realize half assed, short term thinking is the American way.
Posted 12:33 PM, 08/03/2008
yobill626
JimR: From what I remember of the 1993 Health Care debate, was there were 2 or 3 republicans who were dead against it (I forget who) & were determined to torpedo it no matter what. There were also some rumblings that Hillary killed it herself by not being politically smart about making some (what they thought were) minor adjustments to ensure it would get passed. The truth is probably some combination of both.
Posted 12:25 PM, 08/03/2008
yobill626
tom: So, you're saying that McCain switched because of "changing conditions" while Obama is just a "flip flopper" --- c'mon man, you can't possibly believe there is a difference. I actually think that both candidates' shared quality of willingness to change positions is a good thing. It shows an ability to compromise to get their way & move forward. No matter who wins, I think the Party extremists (the Right with McCain & the Left with Obama) will be stunned how close to the Center each candidate governs once they take over.
Posted 11:00 AM, 08/03/2008
p-diddy
CB - I don't think universal healthcare is a pipe dream at all. It's a real possibility in the near future.
Posted 10:56 AM, 08/03/2008
p-diddy
Tom, you're argument doesn't hold water. The number of people without healthcare has increased rapidly over the past several years, while those other problems you mention have remained constant. There were 9 million more people in 2007 without health insurance than there was in 2000. That's not due to illegal immigration, it's because the cost of insurance is so out of control. Don't give me this "no one is denied care" stuff, because people without insurance are denied care all the time. People who suffer from serious illnesses and don't have insurance get bare minimum care at best. We don't care for everyone in this country. A working class American is better off getting sick in France than he is in his own country.
Posted 10:33 AM, 08/03/2008
EL Zorro
I have a lot of Intenert friends from around the world and is insteresting how much they know about the stuff that is happening in the USA and in the World. As a matter of fact, they know more about the news in the USA than most Americans. The media in their countries, for the most part, tell it like it is. That's what they say.
Posted 10:10 AM, 08/03/2008
JimR
BTW, Tom, Bubba did try to make health care an issue. It was Hillary's downfall. It went nowhere. The Repubs made it one of the center points of the primary season. Making the government the provider has no energy and is a terrifying idea. Just imagine the management and bureaucracy that handles the war, trying to handle caring for us.
Posted 10:00 AM, 08/03/2008
JimR
To throw a monkey wrench into things. You can indeed be denied health care (at least temporarily) If you are in the middle class, older-50+-, have pre-existing conditions, etc you can be denied care while the paperwork problems are cleared up. You can (and some do) die while that process creeps along. The liberal media has highlighted this often - as recently as the last few weeks in the Inky. This system is broken big time. Whether you want to argue rebuild or start all over, this system needs an enormous amount of work. There's trillions of dollars going in and too little coming out. If out of the 47M uninsured, there are even 20M that are really out there, that's morally unacceptable, especially in a country with the highest level of providers and research. Getting life saving medicines and medical devices as well as care should not be only for people who work for large employers who provide the care at all.
Posted 09:33 AM, 08/03/2008
CB
yobill, tom: Thanks for your input. good to see realistic points and honesty on this site. P, you are a good person with ethical aims, but I'm not sure the reality of the situation will ever allow your points to become reality. Basically we the sytem needs to be changed, including the sidebar issues which effect all the others, ie illegal aliens, the war, cost of energy, China / India effect on the world markets. Who in their right minds would want to be President anyway!
Posted 08:27 AM, 08/03/2008
tom - wilmington, de
diddy, there are not 47 million people uninsured. Besides the illegals, those numbers also include people who are between jobs and have not carried COBRA, children who are covered by a State program such as SCHIP, the poor who are covered by Medicaid, and others who have some type of coverage from the government. More important than whether those people have insurance, the truth is that in this country nobody can be denied care. In Wilmington, the E-Room at the AI DuPont Hospital for Children doubles as a clinic for those without insurance. They get care, and they are not billed. It is already covered by the taxpayers...why? Because the hospital receives a subsidy from the state to cover the uninsured and it is a Not-For-Profit hospital. So your argument that we need universal coverage falls when you realize that in this country, nobody (not even an illegal) can be denied coverage. Why not go and try to get into Mexico or some other country illegally and try to get health care treatment....good luck on not being thrown into jail. Yet you rail about the ills of this country and Iraq (why didn't Bubba do something about health care...he didn't have an Iraq) yet miss the bigger picture about how in this country we inevitably take care of everybody. So go ahead and call me a pig, from you I consider that a compliment. yobill, McCain was earlier for what he called changing conditions. Obama "shifted" because of political expediency. He was late...but my bigger point was in going from McCain flip flopping to Obama "shifting" his position. Just more from the liberal media fallacy.
Posted 02:32 AM, 08/03/2008
yobill626
Tom: I'm beginning to think the Conservatives are right about Obama's lack of experience --- he was a month or two later on his flip flop than McCain was.
Posted 01:07 AM, 08/03/2008
yobill626
After doing some real basic checking on the universal health care stats, what I saw mirrored tom's "all over the map" numbers. Basically, most people are for universal health care EXCEPT: 1] if you do not get to choose your own doctor; 2] if you make over $100,000/yr...The earlier point that I made badly (& CB rightly challenged me on) is that the country is moving from far right towards the center & this is one example --- the numbers are trending upwards in the last 4-5 years of Americans wanting universal health care.
Posted 12:42 AM, 08/03/2008
p-diddy
Whatever. If you're fine with leaving 47 million people uninsured, you're a pig.
Posted 12:29 AM, 08/03/2008
tom - wilmington, de
Obama has now, as stated in the MSNBC story, "shifted" his position on off shore drilling. I love the word "shifted". P-Diddy, you have really drank (drunk?) too much Kool-Aid.
Posted 11:27 PM, 08/02/2008
p-diddy
What is really happening is that the middle class in this country is disappearing. Health insurance shouldn't be a luxury (never mind dental care, which has been a luxury for a while now). No one needs me to tell them how bad it sucks out there right now. We have a government that is spending two and a half billion dollars a day in Iraq, essentially subsidizing new swimming pools for the contracting class in northern Virginia, at a time when heating oil and personal transportation are about to join health insurance on the list of middle-class luxuries. Home heating and car ownership are slipping away from the middle class thanks to exploding energy prices — the hidden cost of the national borrowing policy we call dependency on foreign oil, "foreign" representing those nations, Arab and Chinese, that lend us the money to pay for our wars. And while we've all heard stories about how much waste and inefficiency there is in our military spending, this is always portrayed as either "corruption" or simple inefficiency, and not what it really is — a profound expression of our national priorities, a means of taking money from ordinary, struggling people and redistributing it not downward but upward, to connected insiders, who turn your tax money into pure profit.
Posted 11:10 PM, 08/02/2008
p-diddy
And we're not even talking about the vast number of underinsured.
Posted 11:09 PM, 08/02/2008
p-diddy
It doesn't matter. If there's 47 million people in America with no health insurance, something has to be done. Even if you take a lowball figure (some of the illegals are provided with insurance by employers) of 35 million uninsured American citizens, you'd be hard pressed to explain how you can just continue the status quo. According to the 2007 census, 400,000 children went without health insurance in 2006 over the previous year. Another 700,000 children lost coverage in 2007. Health insurance premiums are rising at about 7% a year - more than double the increase in workers' wages and more than double the rate of inflation. Businesses are dropping coverage for employees, which is how most Americans get their insurance. Since 2000, there is 9 million MORE Americans without insurance than there was in 2007 - and we can expect the 2008 census to be worse, considering the economy. The average family health insurance policy now is pretty close to $12,000 a year. Imagine a family earning $48,500 affording $12,000 a year. But when you look even higher up the income scale, 1.4 million of the people who became uninsured in the 2007 census period had incomes of $75,000 and more, household incomes. So it says that even higher-income families now are having enormous difficulty affording insurance and likely to be working for employers who are dropping coverage.
Posted 07:09 PM, 08/02/2008
tom - wilmington, de
diddy, it is acknowledged that the 47 million figure includes the 12 million or so illegals in the country. They should not be included in any health care proposals (well, maybe their kids) because they should not be rewarded for violating the laws. And do not give me any stuff about them being taxpayers and doing jobs Americans will not do because most of them are using fake social security numbers (have you ever tried to clear up a W-2 or 1099 issued to someone to whom it did not belong...the employer has to make the correction and they usually do not). So the number is probably closer to 35 million, and many of them choose not to buy health insurance because they do not believe they need it (I never get sick & I never go to the doctor are two common excuses). So unless you are going to cover all the illegals and force people to get health insurance who do not want it, you will never have 100% coverage. Besides, universal coverge has its problems as well, such as in Oregon, where they will not pay for treatment unless it guarantees life expectancy of at least 5 years but they will pay for assisted suicide. That is a great plan.
Posted 06:14 PM, 08/02/2008
p-diddy
What do you mean "only" fundamental changes? In other words, over 80% of the public thinks our healthcare system either is fundamentally flawed or need to be rebuilt. In any case, polls shouldn't matter on the healthcare issue, because the fact remains that over 47 million Americans have no health insurance. The cannot be allowed to stand in a moral society.
Posted 06:04 PM, 08/02/2008
p-diddy
I don't even own a TV. I do check out foxnews.com regularly, as well as other news sites.
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Posted 04:38 PM, 08/02/2008
tom - wilmington, de
The poll is a CBS/NYT poll just released. It stated that 47% of those surveyed wanted a government run plan with universal coverage compared to 38% wanting a private system (get this) WITH MANY UNINSURED. Talk about slanting a question to get a result. However, the poll contradicts itself. When questioned further, only 30% believe the government would do better at providing coverage, compared to 47% who believe government would do worse. So how can you be in favor of a government run health care system while believing the government would do worse at providing coverage? Also, 77% are satisfied with their own coverage (41% very, 36% somewhat satisfied). By the way, of those surveyed, 440 were Democrats, 357 Republicans, and 484 Independent. Call that a fair and balanced poll? By the way, a majority of those polled also believe the Health Care System only needs fundamental changes (54%) compared to being completely rebuilt (36%). And as for the post, one example from over 40 years ago does not dispel the liberal media bias fallacy. Give me a break.
Posted 02:12 PM, 08/02/2008
puttinonthefoil
The McCain campaign's anti-protein bar plank might gain traction. Envision a political map of the United States. Keep that in your head. Now... compare it to this map: http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080717/480/44c4e341ae5e43dcb2f88fe9bc97d535/ Because where I come from, it's cornbread and chicken!
Posted 01:38 PM, 08/02/2008
mcnuckel
You say he's the chosen one, well at least 18 million people chose him. How many chose McCain?
Posted 12:06 PM, 08/02/2008
CB
I saw today that our "chosen one", Backtrack Obama while at an event in Florida has reversed his position on offshore drilling. According to him, if it would help offset the price of oil and help lessen our dependence on foreign oil, he would be in favor of it. Smart man, this one issue could have completely derailed his run for pres, since over 70% of those polled favor it.
Posted 12:01 PM, 08/02/2008
CB
yobill - Can you site the source you use that most people are screaming for universal health care. I'd like to check out the numbers. The last time I saw one (2007) most people throughout the country did not want it. Only the blue states areas seemed to support it. Let me know.
Posted 11:54 AM, 08/02/2008
mcnuckel
It's pretty obvious of the mood of the country when you see the last three special Congressional elections. All three were conservative districts, yet the Democrats won all three seats. Yobill is right on with his analysis of national healthcare, people are worn out and tired of the same old policies that the repubs. trot out every election cycle. Pdiddy I agree about Fox News watching it reminds me of reading the National Enquire vs. the Philadelphia Inquire.
Posted 11:29 AM, 08/02/2008
yobill626
The mood of the country most certainly has moved left to the center since the Fall of 2005 (when Katrina hit & started the movement). Just this past week, a law was forcibly signed by Bush greatly increasing the charges & penalties to companies caught with lead in the childrens' toys they make & sell. 89 Senators signed it --- what choice did he have? Part of the bill states that the organization that regulates this type of thing (the name eludes me now) has been doubled in size & budget --- definitely not a conservative action. Polls indicate that most people are screaming for universal health care. These are just two examples. This doesn't mean that the "country is now Liberal", but rather, our system has a wonderful way of balancing itself out. It has been too far to the Right for so long & now it is just swinging the other way...
Posted 10:54 AM, 08/02/2008
p-diddy
FoxNews' ratings are driven by its commentators (O'Reilly, Gibson, Hume, Hannity, Rove, Cavuto), not by its nightly news broadcast. Also, Fox has this weird sexual accent to the news. If a fourteen year old boy has sex with his teacher in South Carolina, you can be sure Fox will devote regular updates, just to make sure we all know the latest. I'm not saying this isn't newsworthy, but for a national news channel, they seem to be obsessed with coverage of sexual misconduct cases. Are tales of rape and molestation being used as subconscious titillation of its audience? Also, for a news source that likes to take jabs at the "Hollywood liberal elite", they sure love their Hollywood gossip. I don't think any "news" channel devotes as much time to entertainment gossip as does FoxNews. But its ratings are mainly driven by blatantly biased commentators.
Posted 10:39 AM, 08/02/2008
p-diddy
The mood of the country HAS shifted left, towards the center. The Chosen One? Only in November. But I don't think that will stick, since Christian conservatives simply don't trust McCain either. McCain needs to discover the series of tubes they call the internets, and maybe then he'll be the Chosen One. The campaign McCain is running reminds me of Kerry's. It always seems to be half inflated.
Posted 09:49 AM, 08/02/2008
tom - wilmington, de
The mood of the country has not shifted left...which is why Obama has moved toward the center. As for hubris, the chosen one held another press conference today to announce a new tax cut and economic stimulus. As noted on the screen, this was his first press conference since his return from Europe. And people say he is not arrogant? All this was was free publicity carried by the cable networks...he saved money on a campaign ad.
Posted 09:39 AM, 08/02/2008
mcnuckel
He does have a good chance, a better chance then McCain. The mood of the country has shifted away from the right and is now leaning more left. Your friends in D.C. blew it by their hubris and total lack of ethics. Now they have to start over again, according to your hero El Rushbo.
Posted 09:35 AM, 08/02/2008
JimR
Bias is a funny thing. It is one person's cold fact, another's spin. Tom, the word 'good' modifies the word 'chance' not the quality of the candidate. In my mind, it indicates the likelihood of success which contrasts with the likelihood of success from 50 years ago, when Obama wold have had no chance at all. The Inky had a story about Philly's DHS which I found to have a spin. I didn't have a problem with the spin because I was outraged that a child could die in the hands of her caretakers. The ref to a judge being a Bush appointee, I took as something else. Not that Bush was really wrong, but as an allusion to the irony of a decision from a presumed 'safe' appointment.The names, date, places stuff is dry - the background is the problem. Look at the responses that even the most mundane stories get on Philly.com. It seems EVERYONE sees a bias. In an earlier post I prattled about 60+% of the citizenry who seem to dis-believe ( or hold in contempt)what they read. I can't figure out who is processing anything and who is being affected by it all. The numbers don't work for me.
Posted 01:33 AM, 08/02/2008
tom - wilmington, de
And in July/August, Obama should have the same chance of winning the White House as McCain...so why not say McCain has a good chance of winning the White House....or refer to Obama as "the first African American to win a party's nomination for President", which is really all he is a the moment. He has no better or worse chance to win right now than McCain, so saying he has a good chance is bias.
Posted 01:28 AM, 08/02/2008
tom - wilmington, de
Columnists, bloggers, commentators, they all have a political slant and they usually expose it in their writings. This site is no different, and neither are the others mentioned above. Where the liberal bias comes into play is in the reporting of the news. How articles are written describing economic conditions, the war, unemployment, etc. should be written free from any subjectivity. But they rarely meet that standard. When the Inquirer truncates a story from the Associated Press, and leaves out what the writer said that was positive about the situation in Iraq, that is bias just the sort that is discussed in this post. In today's Inqy, there is a story about the Appeals Court deciding that Bush's aides must answer the House Judiciary Committee subpoenas, and it is written with no bias either way, but did contain a line about the judge being a Bush appointee....now why was that important? One might think that this was mentioned as a way for the reader to assume that if a Bush appointee ruled against the President, then the President must really be wrong. That was not germain to the story. In a story about McCain accusing Obama of playing the race card, the AP writer called Obama "the first black candidate with a good chance of winning the White House." Why insert the word "good"? Does that belong there except to have the reader believe Obama is a really good candidate? And I am still waiting for the reporting of Obama's claim that keeping tires inflated can save as much oil as can be drilled from the Continental Shelf. Where was that story again...right next to McCain confusing Shia and Sunni? That is bias in my view.
Posted 12:03 AM, 08/02/2008
ObamaHATER
mcnuckle nobody ever BLAMES the media, republicans only point out the propaganda the liberal media tries to sneak on us. When so-called journalists with a slogan on their screen that states "no bias-no bull" blatenly sides with one candidate, and rarely gives both sides of view, it's worth pointing out the hypocrisy. Before the republicans started "whining" about it, liberal media got away with it. Polman doesn't want you to know that the majority of the population now understands this. You can't blame liberals for disputing a bias if the bias is always right in their opinion.
Posted 11:28 PM, 08/01/2008
rbpeeple
The media stinks...including this paper.
Posted 10:31 PM, 08/01/2008
mcnuckel
Cry babies and whiners, all you Publicans. It's always that darn liberal media's fault. Please find a new approach for your whining.
Posted 09:08 PM, 08/01/2008
ObamaHATER
Amazing! Where is all of the data that proves your point of yet another baseless article? JWAD you are EXACTLY right! I noticed on CNN today they have limited their coverage of Obama drastically. Another strategy meeting by the Obama campaign on navigating his press coverage. If this doesn't help his polling than I guess they will toughen up on senator Mccain. It's all so obvious.
Posted 08:39 PM, 08/01/2008
p-diddy
Why challenge your readers'/viewers' biases? They might go to another news source. Tell them what they want to hear. That way you can make more money and solidify your consumer base. Sounds great, right?
Posted 07:00 PM, 08/01/2008
yobill626
Novak was always considered one of Cheney & Rove's "Go to" guys in the Press to push their positions. Want proof? Who got a call when they wanted to out Valerie Plame?
Posted 06:49 PM, 08/01/2008
JimR
yobill, I forgot Broder and went blank trying to get Will's name.....Xi Jah, you must be young or not a real junkie if you can dismiss Novak as NOT being an advocate. He's got one of the oldest columns around. He started writing on parchment. He is a trench warrior for 40+ years.
Posted 06:41 PM, 08/01/2008
yobill626
JimR: I guess that would also include George Will & David Broder. Gee, do we have to clear them all with Xi Jah before deciding to take or discard the information they give?
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Posted 05:55 PM, 08/01/2008
JimR
Xi Jah, thanks for defining that for us. Buchanan, Novak, Krauthammer! - you guys got that?
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Posted 04:34 PM, 08/01/2008
JimR
So the key to it all is - you must be a Conservative blogger. Being a Lib is what makes the difference.
Posted 04:27 PM, 08/01/2008
CB
yobill626 - How about Sean Penn?
Posted 03:43 PM, 08/01/2008
legatus
"So they don't consider themselves to be serious journalists at the Weekly Standard or on RedState?" He didn't say anything about CONSERVATIVE BLOGGERS. ;^)
Posted 03:42 PM, 08/01/2008
p-diddy
When Obama talks about properly inflating your tires to increase gas mileage, he's not just talking about tires, you dolts. He's trying to incorporate a message of individual responsibility into the energy/environmental debate. The main focus, of course, should be on the development and dissemination of feasible alternative fuels, as well as cleaning up brown industrial practices, but individual responsibility is part of the solution.
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Posted 03:30 PM, 08/01/2008
yobill626
So they don't consider themselves to be serious journalists at the Weekly Standard or on RedState?
Posted 03:29 PM, 08/01/2008
p-diddy
Media wants to sell us news. That's why our election cycle "debate" resembles a high school rivalry at Sweet Valley High. All we get is attack/counter attack. Just today we're hit with "news" about Obama/McCain pointing fingers at one another saying, "He did it first!" and comments about protein bars and Paris Hilton. This is what passes for relating to the common American. What we have is a culture that has completely blurred the distinction between public service and consumerism. Bill O'Reilly and Keith Olberman exist so people can consume their favorite flavor. Good thing there's still the occasional Seymour Hersh out there.
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Posted 03:21 PM, 08/01/2008
JimR
Why can you not be a serious journalist and a blogger?
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Posted 02:50 PM, 08/01/2008
legatus
"I've read comments almost every day by various yahoos making slurs about the "LMB" of the blog writer. Why wouldn't they occasionally challenge it?" Because neither Bunch nor Polman make any secret of the liberal pov with which they write their blog. (It's ok in a blog, which is more editorial, and less hard-news.)
Posted 02:46 PM, 08/01/2008
yobill626
Xi Jah: Maybe there are so many columns pointing to the fallacy of the "liberal media bias", because on this blog (& Attytood's as well) I've read comments almost every day by various yahoos making slurs about the "LMB" of the blog writer. Why wouldn't they occasionally challenge it?
Posted 02:12 PM, 08/01/2008
tom - wilmington, de
Remember all those stories when the Republicans were in charge of the House about them not allowing debate on amendments, running roughshod over the rules, and preventing the Democrats from debating bills? Well, the current Democrat leaders are doing the same thing they protested under the Republicans...and how many stories have appeared on those tactics? Instead we get stories about how the Republicans are stonewalling and not allowing legislation to get approved. But of course that is from the non-biased (un-biased?) media. And as for the current DOJ tactics being unprecedented? Is that because it never happened before...or just because it was never caught before? I am shocked and appalled that politics played a role in hiring...even when it was not supposed to be a criteria. I am sure that never happened before...NEVER....and the tooth fairy does exist.
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Posted 01:28 PM, 08/01/2008
yobill626
As much as I've ripped McCain for running a pathetic campaign, I have to admit it is a wise move for him to continue to speak before groups like the NAACP & Nat'l Urbam League. He stuck to his message (a first in awhile) & delivered it well. Keep it up!
Posted 01:22 PM, 08/01/2008
LJL
Ah Monica Goodling - She would have fit in wonderfully with the Nazis. Shame this criminal group was apparently trying to cleanse "intelligence" from the federal government.....And considering the results, from FEMA to DOJ, they did a pretty good job of eliminating intelligence.
Posted 01:22 PM, 08/01/2008
yobill626
CB: Hollywood Heroes like Barbara Streisand...? That comment is pretty current --- if it were 1983! I agree she's a loon, but the line is lame...
Posted 01:14 PM, 08/01/2008
yobill626
MNH: If the rest of the country as a whole are donating much more to Dems than GOP, your numbers hold less validity. Overall, the Dems are getting many more people to donate smaller amounts (called grassroots). Even Republicans are calling 2008 a Democratic year, so those numbers will be skewed to Obama. Compare the donations of Bush to Gore in 2000. I'll bet they reflect the outcome as well.
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Posted 01:10 PM, 08/01/2008
tom - wilmington, de
Okay, the liberal media bias was incorrect back in 1963. What has that got to do with the present. Read any article on anything positive, especially as written by the Associated Press, and it will invariably be followed by a "but, things are bad" line. The media cannot write anything positive, which is why so many stories about us being in a recession when we weren't, and why no stories about Iraq and the civil war ending, etc. Maybe the liberal media bias was wrong back in the 1960's when the Democrats ran the entire government, but is that true today?
Posted 12:56 PM, 08/01/2008
jmc
I'll keep looking for that story on John Edwards' little visit to an ex-campaign staffer and her child. I would think that a former Presidential candidate who is (was) on the short list to be Obama's VP possibly having a love child while his cancer striken wife sits at home would be big news to a unbiased media. I guess not. Remember people, it's not what the media reports, it's what they don't report.
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Posted 12:42 PM, 08/01/2008
CB
A lot has changed since Vietnam. John Wayne and Charlton Heston have been replaced as Hollywood Heroes and Public Icons by Lefty nuts like Barbara Streisand and her like. The media has turned from reporting the facts to actually believing they print impartial articles rather than the lefty loon propaganda they actually do. Mr. Poleman is part of the "in your face" evidence to this fact.
Posted 12:40 PM, 08/01/2008
aviben
Corporate and government influence over the mainstream media is an old story that persists to this day. The "liberal media" canard is perpetuated by the same forces that would have the public believe that the Democrats are left-leaning, when it fact there is often little difference between the parties on key issues. Neither Dems nor the GOP have addressed the usurping of the judicial system by a nationwide network of organized "vigilante injustice" that is supported by government-funded volunteer and "citizens corps" type organizations. It's bypassing the judicial system in Philly and the five surrounding counties and across the nation; but the mainstream media ignores reports of constitutional and human rights abuses. Read about it at nowpublic.com/scrivener, "vigilante injustice"
Posted 12:11 PM, 08/01/2008
puttinonthefoil
It will take some time for history to judge this administration, and luckily, I will be around to see it. I don't think it will judged kindly, hence why years of email documentation go missing among other things, but that all remains to be seen. Still, regimes that 1) mislead their people into wars for resources 2) invoke fear and "patriotism" to keep the citizens in line (only to spy on them) 3) attempt to dismantle or overtake non partisan governmental organizations in order to consolidate power 4) have a leader who supposedly talks to God 5) galvanizes its supporters with hatred (please admit: yesterday's Gypsies and Jews are today's Gays) etc. etc.. I could go on, but generally these types of regimes are not judged kindly in hindsight. At some point I will have to explain to my children how they stayed in power in 2004, and I can only shrug my shoulders and say, "John Kerry was a stiff."
Posted 12:06 PM, 08/01/2008
MiddleNameHussein
Investor's Business Daily, July 23, 2008: Putting Money Where Mouths Are: Media Donations Favor Dems 100-1 (www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=301702713742569). Excerpt: An analysis of federal records shows that the amount of money journalists contributed so far this election cycle favors Democrats by a 15:1 ratio over Republicans, with $225,563 going to Democrats, only $16,298 to Republicans . Two-hundred thirty-five journalists donated to Democrats, just 20 gave to Republicans — a margin greater than 10-to-1. An even greater disparity, 20-to-1, exists between the number of journalists who donated to Barack Obama and John McCain.
Posted 11:44 AM, 08/01/2008
AHiredGun
The "liberal media" - all part of the big lie, along with the Republican Party cares about the little guy.
Posted 11:39 AM, 08/01/2008
JimR
In the day to day of political reporting, it's difficult to argue against a liberal slant. But, with 60+% of the public NOT believing the 'liberal' media, what effect can it really have? Who is it that's listening?
Posted 11:37 AM, 08/01/2008
jwad56
Interesting. Change the subject of normal Obamamania - McCain bashing to deflect attention from the poll numbers? What happened?
Posted 11:24 AM, 08/01/2008
p-diddy
We live in an era of "free"-market fundamentalism, and this extends to media. Who cares about real journalism? Just tell your audience what they want to hear. I am a capitalist, but this era of governmental secrecy, extremist deregulation and privatization is hurting our democracy.
Posted 11:07 AM, 08/01/2008
Gibba Mang
Last time I checked, the major media outlets(TV, Newspaper, Magazines) were all owned by welathy corporations. Bottom line is dollars whcih all conservatives can embrace. The liberal media bias is a myth. I'm sure there are liberal reporters that slant a news story to support their beliefs. But it comes down to facts, which are neither liberal or conservative.
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