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Tuesday, July 29, 2008

The span of time between candidate George H. W. Bush's "read my lips, no new taxes" pledge, and his subsequent decision as president to break his pledge by supporting new taxes, was approximately two years. John McCain has now managed to violate that same pledge in just 20 days.

Here's the straight-talker's recent track record: Back on July 7, he told an audience: "Barack Obama will raise your taxes. I won't." More specifically, McCain economic adviser Douglas Holtz-Eakin said on June 13 that the candidate would refuse to raise the Social Security payroll tax "under any imaginable circumstance."

More generally, McCain told Fox News on March 16 that he would try to cut taxes whenever possible, and never raise them. Host Sean Hannity pressed him on that pledge and asked, "None?" And McCain replied, "None."

More specifically again, when conservative commentator Ramesh Ponnuru asked McCain in March 2007 whether there were any circumstances, during negotiations over entitlement reform, that would compel him to accept a tax increase, he replied, "No, no." Ponnuru pressed him: "No circumstances?" McCain replied, "No. None. None."

And more generally again, McCain told ABC News on Feb. 17 of this year: "No new taxes...In fact, I could see an argument, if our economy continues to deteriorate, for lower interest rates, lower tax rates."

Cut to McCain's appearance ABC this past Sunday. During a discussion about the future of the Social Security program, McCain was asked whether he'd consider a hike in payroll taxes. His reply: "There is nothing I would take off the table." When host George Stephanopoulos asked, "So that means payroll tax increases are on the table as well?," the candidate again said: "Nothing's off the table. I don't want tax increases...But that doesn't mean that anything is off the table."

Democrats like to link McCain to President Bush (often, for valid reasons), but, in one important sense, the two men differ greatly. Bush was a famously disciplined candidate, resolutely on message. But McCain? This guy is all over the place, stepping on his own alleged convictions, and - particularly in the instance cited above - infuriating his own conservative base. The same base that, according to all the polls, is insufficiently galvanized by his candidacy with just 99 days remaining on the election clock. And sure enough, one of the prominent ant-tax groups, the Club for Growth, fired off a letter to McCain yesterday (while emailing it, naturally, to the press), complaining that his "shocking" Sunday statement on ABC has sent "a mixed message about where you stand on this issue."

But by now the conservatives are probably aware that McCain will often flop-flop in their direction as well. In that same Sunday interview, he blatantly reversed himself on another issue, leaving behind a "maverick" stance that he took a decade ago and moving rightward with nary a look back at where he stood before.

First, the history: Back in 1998, there was a ballot initiative in his state of Arizona that was designed to end affirmative action. McCain opposed it at the time, dismissing it as "divisive." But apparently he was against it before he was for it, because this year a similar initiative is on the Arizona ballot, and when he was asked on ABC whether he supports it this time, he replied: "Yes, I do. I do not believe in quotas. But I have not seen the details of some of these proposals. But I've always supported quotas."

The biggest problem with this particular flip-flop is McCain's ill-informed explanation. The Arizona ballot initiative is not about quotas at all (it simply states that public institutions should not "grant preferential treatment to any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color ethnicity, or national origin..."), and, indeed, quotas have generally been barred by the U.S. Supreme Court as far back as 1978. So McCain is raising a phony issue - which is not surprising, since he admits that "I have not seen the details" of the issue he is purporting to discuss.

Indeed, not even McCain's spokesman was able to sort it all out the other day; when Tucker Bounds was asked to square McCain's previous opposition to an affirmative action ban with his new support for an affirmative action ban, he didn't even attempt to spin: "I do not have a firm enough grasp on the historical and relevant context of McCain's remark in 1998 to give you the pushback that this question deserves."

It's possible that McCain was talking off the cuff, with no memory of where he had stood before; more likely, he was deliberately pandering to the base on a pet conservative issue, in the hopes of demonstrating that he's not such a maverick after all, that he's willing to toe the line even at the risk of further alienating minority voters and perhaps jeopardizing his outreach efforts to women (who, after all, have been helped by affirmative action, particularly with respect to recruitment programs).

All told, these two flip-flops (one currying favor with the right, the other risking anger on the right) are prime examples of McCain's delicate, and sometimes clumsy, attempts to stoke his base while seeking some distance from its dictates. This balancing act puts his "straight talker" image at dire risk, although I suppose that if one takes whatever he says in the moment as gospel, and ignores whatever he said on the same subject at an earlier date, he will always look every inch the resolute leader that he purports to be.

Posted by Dick Polman @ 1:33 PM  Permalink | 65 comments
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Posted 02:01 PM, 07/29/2008
tom - wilmington, de
Amazing. One day, we get a post trying to refute lies and rumors about Obama. The next day, we get a post that keeps alive a lie about John McCain. According to a CNN story, the AP reported in 1998 that McCain never said he opposed the 1998 affirmative action bill in Arizona. What he said, as quoted from the AP by CNN (not exactly two stalwart conservative sources), was as follows: "Rather than engage in divisive ballot initiatives, we must have a dialoge and cooperation and mutual efforts together to provide for every child in America to fulfill their expectations". McCain, as reported by the AP, said this to a group of Hispanic business leaders in 1998. Notice how that was never mentioned in the above post. As for this current bill, McCain said "If you're talking about assuring equal and fair opportunity for all Americans and making sure that the practices of the United States military are emulated, the greatest equal opportunity employer in America, then I'm all for it. "If you're talking about quotas, then I'm not for it. So all of us are for 'affirmative action' to try to give assistance to those who need it, whether it be African- American or other groups of Americans that need it," he said in Youngstown, Ohio. Again, as reported by CNN and not referenced in the above post. Once again the Obama water carrier completes his daily chore.
Posted 02:02 PM, 07/29/2008
Logathis
With all the facts and gaffes raining down on McCain's head, where is the press to tell the people about it? Perhaps it's just pre-convention uninterest. Maybe some members of the media are still in love with McCain in a way. Whatever it is, one wonders if this is the John McCain we'll see in the Fall. If he became more disciplined, outside pro-Obama groups might resort to negative ads. Then the race might spiral out of Obama's hands. Not likely, but plausible.
Posted 02:21 PM, 07/29/2008
LJL
Read his lips? It's like lip-reading Rita Hayworth near the end...What exactly does "uh, uh, uh..eh......" look like?
Posted 02:27 PM, 07/29/2008
jjfalcon35
McCain should welcome a debate on taxes anyday. He wants to keep income taxes low, capital gains, corporate taxes low for everybody. Money in the economy , not in the hands of unaccountable bureaucracies . Philadelphia being best example of how high taxes cause stagnation .Obama wants to increase all taxes. Take from the rich, give to the poor, redistribute wealth, who cares about work, merit governement will makes us equal. He was even against welfare reform as Clinton signed it. Good luck selling that. Social Security is a big problem we all have and will require give and take. The discussion should be open and everything should be on the table. Tax rates, tax caps, retirement age, individual based benefits. Lets talk about everything. It is a disgrace we in our 30s are paying all this mony monthly for Soc Security as it is far from certain it will be there for us when we retire.
Posted 03:10 PM, 07/29/2008
Gibba Mang
McSame has no shame and will lie about anything for a vote. If you want more government intrusion in your life, higher taxes, fewer services and war, then McSame is your man. He offers NOTHING to the avergae America excpet debt and death.
Posted 03:17 PM, 07/29/2008
t_dmanns
Actually Tom, the post does state that McCain called the bill "divisive". That would lead me to conclude he was against it at the time. Reading the full transcript of his remarks in Ohio will show a more nuanced position. You should follow Tucker Bounds' advice and not comment on a position you don't fully understand. Spending your day waiting to counter anything that Polman says makes you seem kind of small.
Posted 03:38 PM, 07/29/2008
tom - wilmington, de
And the Obama robots just keep on carrying the water, regardless of the facts. Of course, that was after Obama supported the surge AFTER he thought it would be an abject failure. Oh wait, that is a nuance, as was illustrated in a post from a little more than a week ago.
Posted 03:55 PM, 07/29/2008
pagoda
Tom, surge this. Overextending troop stays and "nuancing" troop rotation hardly makes for a landmark military endeavor. Meanwhile, Taliban forces are having target practice with paratroopers.
Posted 03:56 PM, 07/29/2008
Talvenada
TOM WILM: Hey, flip flopper!! Remember, you were for Obama B4 you were against him. Or did you misspeak? Fair and balanced is following WH talking points to the letter on the news according to Darth Vader, the so man.
Posted 04:02 PM, 07/29/2008
mcnuckel
Tom, who are you trying to kid? You still believe, as do most card carrying dido heads, that it was the right thing to do to invade Iraq. McCain has thrown his maverick status to the wind just to keep people as yourself to support him, but he's been totally exposed and discredited by bloggers like Polman . This guy is all over the place with every issue. He keeps forgetting (his age) the positions that he voted for.
Posted 04:35 PM, 07/29/2008
CB
Backtrack Obama - • After vowing to eschew private fundraising and take public financing, he has now refused public money.
Posted 04:36 PM, 07/29/2008
CB
Backtrack Obama - • Once he threatened to filibuster a bill to protect telephone companies from liability for their cooperation with national security wiretaps; now he has voted for the legislation.
Posted 04:37 PM, 07/29/2008
CB
Backtrack Obama - • Turning his back on a lifetime of support for gun control, he now recognizes a Second Amendment right to bear arms in the wake of the Supreme Court decision.
Posted 04:38 PM, 07/29/2008
CB
Backtrack Obama - • Formerly, he told the Israeli lobby that he favored an undivided Jerusalem. Now he says he didn’t mean it.
Posted 04:38 PM, 07/29/2008
CB
Backtrak Obama - • From a 100 percent pro-choice position, he now has migrated to expressing doubts about allowing partial-birth abortions.
Posted 04:39 PM, 07/29/2008
James TL
JJFALCON35; Do you have evidence that Obama wants to raise all taxes? I doubt you can find one. Same old stuff different day. No politician in their right mind would make such a statement. When costs are going up (especially when an expensive war is going on) sometimes taxes need to be raised. Wouldn't that be more responsible than pushing ever increasing debt on future generations? Apparently neocons don't think so.
Posted 04:39 PM, 07/29/2008
CB
Backtrack Obama - • Having based his entire campaign on withdrawal from Iraq, he now pledges to consult with the military first.
Posted 04:40 PM, 07/29/2008
CB
Backtrack Obama - • During the primary, he backed merit pay for teachers - but before the union a few weeks ago, he opposed it.
Posted 04:41 PM, 07/29/2008
CB
Backtrack Obama - • After specifically saying in the primaries that he disagreed with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-N.Y.) proposal to impose Social Security taxes on income over $200,000 and wanted to tax all income, he has now adopted the Clinton position.
Posted 04:42 PM, 07/29/2008
CB
Backtrack Obama - Obama’s breathtaking flips and flops are materially different from McCain’s. While McCain had opposed offshore oil drilling and now supports it, the facts have obviously changed. Obama’s shifts have nothing to do with altered circumstances, just a change in the political calendar.
Posted 04:43 PM, 07/29/2008
CB
Backtrack Obama - As a candidate who was nominated to be a different kind of politician, Obama has set the bar pretty high. And, with his flipping and flopping, he is falling short, to the disillusionment of his more naïve supporters.
Posted 04:45 PM, 07/29/2008
CB
Backtrack Obama - Meanwhile, McCain and the Republicans have finally found an issue - oil drilling - exposing how the Democrats oppose drilling virtually anywhere that there might be recoverable oil. Not in Alaska. Not offshore. Not in shale deposits in the West. The Democratic claim that we “cannot drill our way out of the crisis in gas prices” begs the question of whether, had we drilled five years ago, we would be a lot less dependent on foreign market fluctuations. The truth is that the Democrats put the need to mitigate climate change ahead of the imperative of holding down gasoline prices at the pump. If there was ever a fault line between elitist and populist approaches to a problem, this is it. In fact, liberals basically don’t see much wrong with $5 gas. Many have been urging a tax to achieve precisely this level, just like Europe has done for decades.
Posted 05:00 PM, 07/29/2008
ivb
Is McCain opposed to the affirmative action that was exposed in the Justice Department in the Inspector General's report?
Posted 05:12 PM, 07/29/2008
yobill626
Like many other people, I've been horrified with how terrible the DOJ becamee when Alberto took over a few years ago. However, you do have to give them their kudos for today's action --- yes it was just the wrist slap of "lying on documents", but it is still a positive step of indicting a powerful Republican during a very partisan Administration. Somebody in the DOJ had to fight to get this done, so to them --- thank you.
Posted 05:43 PM, 07/29/2008
jjfalcon35
No tax increase should be allowed unless approved by voters after having had the opportunity of judging all spending items of the US government. Go over all earmarks and you will be terrified about the amount of nonsense dollars are spent on. Cut the fat first, then we will see if we need higher taxes. McCain has a long anti pork history , the only spending Obama wants to cut is on missile defense, nuclear weapons and combat systems.
Posted 05:49 PM, 07/29/2008
yobill626
jjfalcon35: That's where a lot of fat resides. Its not necessarily the programs themselves, but what goes into them.
Posted 05:59 PM, 07/29/2008
mike l
backtrack cb, Obama has always said that his removal of troops from Iraq would depende on the situation and after consult with the military. Go back over any debate or press release from the last year. As for McCain, he can't keepo anything straight day to day, let alone year to year. Last week, on tape, he said that the 16-month timeline, which Obama espouse, would not be so bad if condidtions permitted. Yesterday, McNuts said he never said "timeline." I know he's old and doesn't know how to use the internet, but hasn't he ever heard of video tape, television, radio? What century does he live in? His latest commercials have finally been slammed by his press buddies as being totally lame and false. So much for his pledge to run a clean campaign. BTW, McCain wants to drill in the ANWR area of Alaska and...sell tje oil to foreign investors, not us. So, under his plan, we would pump American oil, sell it to foreigners, then buy it back at higher costs. Just how is that going to lower oil prices? Any of you geniuses care to explain?
Posted 05:59 PM, 07/29/2008
chredon
I think the affirmative action debate is a non-starter - McCain's statements at the time were not necessarily about the intent of the referendum, but about the process of using divisive referenda to legislate an issue that should be resolved by discussion and compromise. The GOP is top-notch at getting wedge issue referenda onto the ballot in order to draw out partisan support, as they did with gay marriage referenda in 2004. No, the issue here is McCain's stance on taxes - he's absoutely against, won't abide them, will never, never, under any circumstances raise taxes . . . but the concept is always on the table. I think the pictures this weekend of McCain and Bush 41 on the golf cart said a lot: McCain may promise no new taxes, but if he were to win the office, he would find that he cannot keep us from going trillions more dollars into debt without raising them.
Posted 06:05 PM, 07/29/2008
Talvenada
CB, Let's get ready to impeach this Obama loser!! He'll only help have-nots. He'll tax us, and double the price of gas, which is his fault to begin with. McCain is an honest man, even if he's not a Neo-Con.
Posted 06:06 PM, 07/29/2008
chredon
jjfalcon: What we need is a President who vows to veto any bill that comes to his desk with earmarks on it. After the first 15 or 20, maybe Congress would get the idea that he meant what he said. We need to stop spending money on earmark projects and start with a more detailed and better-orchestrated plan of infrastructure improvements, things that would benefit each state, but as part of an overall plan to reviatlize our highways, our electrical grid, our dams and bridges, and our rail systems. That would be better than random pork, randomly assigned, and still bring money back to every state.
Posted 06:12 PM, 07/29/2008
Dave
Boooo! Baracka Obama. Booooo! Shame on you, America. McCain 2008
Posted 06:35 PM, 07/29/2008
jjfalcon35
Yes McCain is so lame that he is pulling close to Hussein in the polls while a generic Democrat would beat a generic republican by double digits. None hits 50 pct telling you high undecideds. You guys better bring Hillary back
Posted 07:02 PM, 07/29/2008
jak dracula
Please see the letter below from a Service Man who was actually there when NObama stopped by. He is the father of six and currently serving in Afghanistan. Kind of a different take that what you lying left put in our the news. Hello everyone, As you know I am not a very political person. I just wanted to pass along that Senator Obama came to Bagram Afghanistan for about an hour on his visit to "The War Zone". I wanted to share with you what happened. He got off the plan and got into a bullet proof vehicle, got to the area to meet with the Major General (2 Star) who is the commander here at Bagram. As the Soldiers where lined up to shake his hand he blew them off and didn't say a word as he went into the conference room to meet the General. As he finished, the vehicles took him to the ClamShell (pretty much a big top tent that military personnel can play basketball or work out in with weights) so he could take his publicity pictures playing basketball. He again shunned the opportunity to talk to Soldiers to thank them for their service. So really he was just here to make a showing for the American's back home that he is their candidate for President. I think that if you are going to make an effort to come all the way over here you would thank those that are providing the freedom that they are providing for you. I swear we got more thanks from the NBA Basketball Players or the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders than from one of the Senators, who wants to be the President of the United States. I just don't understand how anyone would want him to be our Commander-and-Chief. It was almost that he was scared to be around those that provide the freedom for him and our great country. If this is blunt and to the point I am sorry but I wanted you all to know what kind of caliber of person he really is. What you see in the news is all fake. In service, CPT Jeffrey S. Porter Battle Captain TF Wasatch American Soldier
Posted 07:03 PM, 07/29/2008
AHiredGun
Keep smoking the neo-con wacky tobacco guys right up until the day after the election, when Obama will be the next President of the USA
Posted 07:56 PM, 07/29/2008
ObamaHATER
Hey Polman-it's Mr. Mccain to you jerk.
Posted 08:24 PM, 07/29/2008
DebM
It is inconceivable that anyone with even a miniscule amount of intelligence could vote for a candidate even remotely aligned with this failed Bush administration. What in the world is wrong with you people? Oh, and Jak Dracula, that email from Porter has been proven to be patently false. Everything in it was made up. Spreading those virulent lies is par for the course for someone who supports McCain. Smart move buddy.
Posted 09:31 PM, 07/29/2008
yoda
Mr. Drakula (sic), I guess you don't spend much time reading Polman's blog...yesterday's was about the Jeff Porter memo, and explained that the guy realized that he was misinformed, retracted everything, and asked that his email not be used by manifestly vicious, lying right-wing smear mongers. But you couldn't bother finding out about that, could you? It's more fun to just repeat what Voldemort tells you to repeat mindlessly and endlessly...If you have any interest in discovering how stupid you look right now, check it out...http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/americandebate/A_guide_for_the_gullible.html
Posted 10:09 PM, 07/29/2008
puttinonthefoil
I don't understand the fascination with exposing "flip flopping". If you don't know where a candidate stands, that is one thing, but if a candidate changes his mind given the development of the situation at hand, so be it. It was the Bush campaign administration that made "flip flopping" unpalatable and negative. They have been a failure. Let's not use their tactics. If the Eagles were getting smoked and Andy Reid did not make half time adjustments, people would go nuts on him. Our financial situation is a mess, and Bush's policies have really exacerbated the problem. I find it funny that we boast about free market this and that, and yet the unified currency of those so called "socialist" countries in "old europe" is crushing ours. Maybe a more measured approach to taxes is needed. Kudos to McCain for having the courage to see the reality of the national financial picture and step up to the hardline no tax zealots in his base . I'll pardon a "flip/flop" if it flips in a reasonable direction.
Posted 10:29 PM, 07/29/2008
Ed_Tilton
According to John McCains Campaign, John McCain does not speak for the campaign.
Posted 12:08 AM, 07/30/2008
yobill626
Years from now, there will be papers circulated within the GOP about McCain '08 & how to NOT run a campaign. Its already blown past Dole '96.
Posted 12:18 AM, 07/30/2008
atp2007
The similarities between McCain and Bush go back a long way. Both come from influential families, the Bush family big in money and politics and then in oil under George I. McCain's grandfather and father were admirals and influential in the Navy. George went to daddy's alma mater, Yale; McCain went to Annapolis. Both were poor scholars, George II a "gentleman's C student" and McCain was at the bottom of his USNA class. Both were mediocre at best in the family business. George I bankrupted his oil company, McCain crashed repeatedly as a pilot and was shot down, afterwards he never reached Admiral rank. Both had slow starts in politics, but the Bush family connections eventually got George into the Texas Governor's Mansion and then selected as President by his father's SC appointees. McCain found Cindi and her daddy's millions and made it into his secure Senate seat. They both like to describe themselves with meaningless titles like 'the Uniter", "the Decider" "the Maverick". Bush got us into a pointless war, McCain's crowning achievement in the Senate was the campaign law that has essentially been ripped to shreds b the courts and what remains is pretty much a joke. No wonder they seem so alike. Mediocrity that has gotten by with money and influence.
Posted 12:36 AM, 07/30/2008
taedium vitae
oh dear... http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/flipflops
Posted 08:55 AM, 07/30/2008
birdsfaninnc
CB, your first point about refusing public money. if you take a second and think about it, thats all he's receiving. he's received a record number of donations under $100 from regular people. That is the definition of public financing. all rest of your points are valid and have made me like him less.
Posted 09:26 AM, 07/30/2008
tom - wilmington, de
So, I bring up actual quotes from an actual source, and all people can do is talk about us getting into Iraq and accuse me of totally supporting all of our Iraq strategy? They should go back and read some of my other posts. Talvenada once again proved he is living in a different reality several times with his posts. According to Gallup, McCain is ahead of Obama by 4% among LIKELY voters, and the Obama robots still expect a blow out. While many McCain supporters know what they dislike about their candidate, many Obama supporters cannot say anything they dislike about him. They know there is something, but they just cannot put their finger on it. As for my previous support for Obama, I can either take one of two positions. I can take a McCain position (I am basing my decision on changed circumstances) or an Obama explanation (I never said that, you weren't listening to me). As for taxes, Obama is raising the capital gains tax, which would be a tax increase on everyone who has any type of investment. There is no way he can pay for all of his programs by just taxing the top 1% of wage earners (who, by the way, already pay 40% of all income taxes compared to less than 30% under Clinton...yes, those tax cuts for the rich really have them paying less....don't they). As for White House talking points, McClellan has since come out and said he was taken out of context. If you heard the entire Hardball, Matthews used a strategy where he baited McClellan then just talked over him the rest of the time....but he later came out and said on O'Reilly's radio show that his words were not indicative of the truth...that he was wrong.
Posted 09:28 AM, 07/30/2008
tom - wilmington, de
birdsfaninnc, come on, you know what is meant by public financing. Don't nuance. The Watergate era law set up to prevent influence peddling in a campaign was meant as "public financing" since it uses tax dollars and money from those who check off on their Form 1040 to donate $3 to the presidential election fund. Yes, Obama is receiving a lot of small donations from regular folks, but he is also receiving money from bundlers and corporations....who are they and how much are they giving.
Posted 09:45 AM, 07/30/2008
UB Upitty
Cb and Tom: Nice cutting & pasting from your ditto-head sites. Please - go away and come back when you can debate the issues like an intelligent human being. It is more than clear that McSame is fipping and flopping all over the place, in order to try to gain a base (other than the media). Obama is wiping the floor with McSame and the republicans are in over-panic mode. It's quite hilarious to watch. 99 days to go - there is no way to recover from your dismal candidate, (and Congress is set to gain heavily in Democratic seats)unless of course, Rove pulls another illegal coup ... McSame/Bush/GOP - can't win by playing by the rules.
Posted 10:23 AM, 07/30/2008
SteveMG
As far as taxes are concerned, no candidate should rule anything out. When we run a deficit (and I don't care if it was because spending was too high or taxes were cut too much) we are passing the tax bill on to our children. I think that is just wrong no matter which side you're on. Just who do you think is going to have to repay this debt? That money is going to have to come from taxes. It won't be tax money dedicated to repairing bridges that need repair 30 years from now, or money that could go towards buying new weapons then, it will be money that just goes to pay interest. What are we paying on interest now, about 250 billion? I thought it was pretty cynical when somebody had that child ask McCain if he was going to raise taxes. An honest answer (This goes for both sides) would have been "No. You're going to pay the taxes for us. Thank you."
Posted 11:03 AM, 07/30/2008
jjfalcon35
Debt, deficit assessments should happen in the context of a 14+ TRILLION dollar economy guys. Ther is hardly a deficit emergency here. Certainly not one that could be fixed by cutting spending instead of raising taxes.
Posted 11:14 AM, 07/30/2008
CB
UB - Nice try, but you had better get you head out of the sand and stop drinking the MoveOn.org propaganda kool aid. Backtrack Obama has lost his "wiping the floor" lead over McCAin just like Kerry and Eco Gore did in their elections. Looks like a horse race to the end.
Posted 11:19 AM, 07/30/2008
CB
taedium vitae - Checked out your posted web site. Looks like a very impartial site with all the anti McCane info posted in it's ads. You'd do better looking up the Washington Post and comparing the flip flops betweent he two candidates. McCain's have come over a period of 10 - 15 years as the world situation has changes. Obama's have come over the past 3 months as he has consilidated the nomination and now needs to move to the center to gain Independent Voter approval. Global Reality vs. Political Expediency.
Posted 11:41 AM, 07/30/2008
tom - wilmington, de
Since when are CNN and the AP ditto head sites?
Posted 01:00 PM, 07/30/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Backtrack Obama - • ripped Hillary Clinton for months for voting to list Iran's Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization. Days after Clinton conceded, Obama flipped and said he supported the definition.
Posted 01:01 PM, 07/30/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Backtrack Obama - • Obama repeatedly vowed to meet with various heads of terror states—most notably Ahmadinejad of Iran—"without preconditions." Then, with the nomination in sight, he zigzagged: "There's no reason why we would necessarily meet with Ahmadinejad. He's not the most powerful person in Iran."
Posted 01:02 PM, 07/30/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Backtrack Obama - • In October, he supported NAFTA expansion. In March, campaigning in the Ohio primary, he called for a "reopening" of the trade pact's terms. This week, he called his own primary rhetoric "overheated" and said NAFTA has had a positive effect on the US economy.
Posted 01:03 PM, 07/30/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Backtrack Obama - • Yesterday, after signaling opposition to nuclear power, he told Democratic governors he's open to expanding it."
Posted 01:07 PM, 07/30/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Backtrack Obama had been pushing the 16 month withdraw plan; then he "refines" his position with “I’ve always said that the pace of withdrawal would be dictated by the safety and security of our troops and the need to maintain stability. That assessment has not changed,” he said. “And when I go to Iraq and have a chance to talk to some of the commanders on the ground, I’m sure I’ll have more information and will continue to refine my policies.”… Which is not actually true, he always said the 16 months. This was also when he had to have a second press conference an hour later to "clarify" his comments.
Posted 01:10 PM, 07/30/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Backtrack Obama - Special interests In January, the Obama campaign described union contributions to the campaigns of Clinton and John Edwards as "special interest" money. Obama changed his tune as he began gathering his own union endorsements. He now refers respectfully to unions as the representatives of "working people" and says he is "thrilled" by their support.
Posted 01:11 PM, 07/30/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Backtrack Obama - Public financing Obama replied "yes" in September 2007 when asked if he would agree to public financing of the presidential election if his GOP opponent did the same. Obama has now attached several conditions to such an agreement, including regulating spending by outside groups. His spokesman says the candidate never committed himself on the matter.
Posted 01:11 PM, 07/30/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Backtrack Obama - The Cuba embargo In January 2004, Obama said it was time "to end the embargo with Cuba" because it had "utterly failed in the effort to overthrow Castro." Speaking to a Cuban American audience in Miami in August 2007, he said he would not "take off the embargo" as president because it is "an important inducement for change."
Posted 01:12 PM, 07/30/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Backtrack Obama - Illegal immigration In a March 2004 questionnaire, Obama was asked if the government should "crack down on businesses that hire illegal immigrants." He replied "Oppose." In a Jan. 31, 2008, televised debate, he said that "we do have to crack down on those employers that are taking advantage of the situation."
Posted 01:13 PM, 07/30/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Backtrack Obama - Decriminalization of marijuana While running for the U.S. Senate in January 2004, Obama told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use. In the Oct. 30, 2007, presidential debate, he joined other Democratic candidates in opposing the decriminalization of marijuana.
Posted 01:17 PM, 07/30/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
UB Upitty haven't you realized that Obama has peaked in popularity? Everyday more and more people take notice of him and realize this guy is all over the board on every issue and that he has absolutely no experience and is not qualified to be president.
Posted 01:34 PM, 07/30/2008
taedium vitae
CB - Your assertion that Mccain's legendary flip-flopping is actually the considered, ideological evolution of a wise & broad-minded statesman over the course of 15 years is, of course, simply ridiculous. The fact that Sen. McCain is all over political map on any given day is precisely why conservatives, as a body, haven't gotten behind his candidacy. You're obviously just playing with us and I appreciate that -- sometimes Obama supporters tend to become a bit full of themselves. Regardless, the smart money says start making plans for the Obama inaugural in January.
Posted 01:45 PM, 07/30/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
taedium vitae if Obama is actually elected president the smart money also says to prepare of the imminent terrorist attack, the stock market crash, $12 gas, failure in the middle east, rampant job loss, socialized health care, greater restrictions on liberty and the loss of American greatness.
Posted 05:48 PM, 07/30/2008
taedium vitae
thelastRepublicaninPhilly, think about it: with perhaps the exception of socialized health care, which of items on your list are not already reality, or well on their way to becoming so? And no one can realistically & justifiably hang any of it on Barack Obama. I am in no sense a rabid Obama supporter but I take great issue with the "horserace" scenario the media is attempting to make of the forthcoming election. I believe that, barring some unforseen miracle, the writing is on the wall and it ain't going to be pretty for the Republican party, all up and down the ticket. In my humble opinion, the current administration (and just about everyone who's served it) went out of its way to pervert & disgrace the once proud GOP name and that a majority of the electorate now feels the nation doesn't have much to lose by trying something unproven. (I personally changed my voter registration during the 2006 election cycle from Republican to Independent.) From what I've been able to find, most of the cognoscenti, who consider statistics alone, seem to all reach more or less the same conclusion about the forthcoming debacle: http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/article.php?id=AIA2008052901
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