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Tuesday, November 18, 2008

 

 

In my continuing quest to identify sane Republicans - as opposed to those who dwell in denial by insisting that the party lost in 2008 only because it was not conservative enough - I nominate Senator Mel Martinez of Florida. He hereby joins the circle of sanity that I created here last Friday, when I named pollster David Winston and Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota as charter members. All three are suggesting that the GOP needs to reinvent itself as an inclusive party, a perspective that might sound wild and crazy to the conservative ideologues, but which nevertheless is the only realistic Republican path to recovery.

Here was Martinez, during a post-election appearance on Meet the Press: "(I)f Republicans don't figure it out and do the math, we're going to be relegated to minority status. I've been preaching this for a long time to my colleagues within my party. I think that the very divisive rhetoric of the immigration debate (in 2006 and 2007) set a very bad tone for our brand as Republicans...The fact of the matter is that Hispanics are going to be a more and more vibrant part of the electorate, and the Republican party had better figure out how to talk to them. We had a very dramatic shift between what President Bush was able to do with Hispanic voters (in 2004), where he won 44 percent of them, and what happened to Senator McCain (who won only 31 percent). Senator McCain did not deserve what he got. He was one of those that valiantly fought, fought for immigration reform, but there were voices within our party, frankly, which they continue with that kind of rhetoric, anti-Hispanic rhetoric, that so much of it was heard, we're going to be relegated to minority status."

Martinez, the first Cuban-American senator, has already been victimized by the GOP's exclusionary ethos. For awhile, in 2007, he served as chairman of the Republican National Committee - until he was compelled to resign, under pressure from conservatives who detested his support for path-to-citizenship immigration reform. But his remarks on Meet the Press were not an attempt to settle an old score; rather, as he said himself, it was all about the inescapable math.

Start with Florida. Four years ago, Bush won Florida handily - with considerable assistance from Hispanic voters, who backed the president by 12 percentage points. But this year, Florida narrowly backed Barack Obama - with considerable assistance from Hispanic voters, who backed the Democrat by 15 percentage points. You don't need to be an MIT graduate to figure out that the Hispanic voters in Florida had abandoned the Republicans by swinging 27 points the other way. This happened for many reasons, starting with the fact that the traditionally pro-Republican Cuban-Americans are no longer monolithically fixated on Fidel Castro; younger Cuban-American voters were open to Obama. And it's demographic reality that Florida's Cuban-Americans no longer dominate the statewide Hispanic electorate; they have been joined by Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Nicaraguans, and others who have been turned off by the persistent anti-immigrant rhetoric of the GOP's conservative ideologues.

The Republicans have been on notice about an Hispanic backlash for more than a decade. Back in the mid-'90s, California Republicans adopted tough anti-immigrant rhetoric, and campaigned for a statewide referendum that would deny public services to the children of illegals. The result: Hispanic voters in California - the fastest-growing ethnic group in the electorate - swung heavily to the Democrats, and basically swept the GOP out of power in the state capital. The California Republican party, 12 years later, has yet to recover its former prowess. I spent considerable time in California in 1997, talking with local and start Republican chairmen about the backlash, and they all vowed to mend their ways by becoming more inclusive as a party.

Today, we're hearing the same vows from Republicans who just got hammered by the latest Hispanic backlash. In Virginia - which voted Democratic in a presidential election for the first time in 44 years, thanks in part to a hefty Hispanic turnout that voted 65 percent Democratic - GOP officials have told the conservative Washington Times that they need to send Hispanics a message of "inclusion and involvement," and that they should launch "a rebranding campaign and make sure the truth is really out there, that we're not against immigrants." Perhaps this would have been a good thing to do before the election - when it was already obvious to anyone reading the Census figures that, between 2000 and 2006, the Hispanic population in Virginia had increased by 40 percent.

And the Republicans "very divisive rhetoric" (Martinez's words) turned off the burgeoning Hispanic electorates in Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada. Those western states were all red in 2004. They are all blue in 2008. It's too simple to say that Hispanics alone swung those states to Obama, but, at the least, their strong Democratic orientation severely narrowed McCain's prospects for victory. Again, the numbers tell the tale. Hispanics were 13 percent of the Colorado electorate (up from only 8 in 2004), and 61 percent of them voted for Obama; Hispanics were 41 percent of the New Mexico electorate (up from 32 in 2004), and 69 percent voted for Obama (up from 56 percent for John Kerry); Hispanics were 15 percent of the Nevada electorate (up from 10 in 2004), and 76 percent voted for Obama (up from 60 percent for Kerry).

Unless the Republicans can truly change their tone, mend their ways, reach beyond their shrinking white southern base, and join the culturally diverse 21st century, they will again be thrwarted by the demographics. America's Hispanic population (which is far younger than the national norm) has increased by 25 percent during the current decade, whereas the overall national growth is roughly six percent. And the Hispanic share of the national electorate has upticked steadily during the last four presidential elections, and this trend that will continue.

I've checked the overall vote totals and the exit polls, and here's the deal: In 1996, roughly 4.8 million Hispanics turned out to vote; in 2000, roughly 7.35 million; in 2004, roughly 9.68 million; in 2008, roughly 11.3 million (and all the '08 votes have not been counted yet).

The math is obvious. For Republicans, it is also the handwriting on the wall.

 

 

Posted by Dick Polman @ 11:33 AM  Permalink | 61 comments
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Posted 11:43 AM, 11/18/2008
robo
It would seem that the social conservatives and the anti-immigration folks have taken over the Republican party. The Republcans who truly believed in limited govt and balancing the budget have no place with them. Bad news for the GOP!
Posted 11:58 AM, 11/18/2008
NEPhilly
I guess the Repubs will now take the advice of Mr. Polman, like he wants the GOP to thrive. McCain was one Repub that worked to solve the immigrant issue by reaching across the aisle and look what it got him! 31% of the hispanic vote. If securing our borders is anti-Hispanic and the only issue on which hispanics vote, then so be it. I happen to think they are a more diverse group than that, I happened to marry one:) In any case, the population increases of hispanics can not be ignored. The GOP's issues of smaller govt., less taxes, energy independence and a strong national defense may not be enough or may need a better salesman. Although, after the coming tax increases, job killing health mandates and increased govt. growth and the waste that goes with it, maybe they will take a 2nd look at the GOP!
Posted 12:05 PM, 11/18/2008
schnail
In addition to just changing their tone, they will also have to get their base to come along and stop hating and fearing people unlike themselves. Good luck with that, GOP. You done made yer bed, y'all.
Posted 12:07 PM, 11/18/2008
Nalaka
I know you (Mr. Polman) receive a lot of negative comments in some of these posts. I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for consistently writing informative and insightful blogs. Checking your page on the Inquirer has become a part of my daily routine. In particular, I appreciate that you often have facts behind your blogs, as well as an impressive grasp of the historical context.
Posted 12:16 PM, 11/18/2008
sleepy
..and today, California is bankrupt.....I'm not sure what the solution is, but it isn't wholesale immigration...
Posted 12:23 PM, 11/18/2008
Talvenada
NE PHIL: I see you're spreading the party cheer, and now the great times will end on 1/20.
Posted 12:33 PM, 11/18/2008
CD75
Mr. Polman, I want to thank you for only telling half of the story, cherry picking the news, and using your position to advocate instead of being a journalist. You are an asset to those who believe that the media should be used as a tool of misinformation and propaganda. Bless You!
Posted 12:41 PM, 11/18/2008
CD75
Of course, Polman does not discuss the fact that Obama has raised the expectations in the Latino community that Obama will give all aliens clemancy. How will the Latino community react when Obama breaks does not deliver for the Latinos? Polman also forgets that Latinos are Catholic and many of them are very, very pro-life and anti-death.
Posted 12:48 PM, 11/18/2008
NEPhilly
Tal, I hope I'm wrong and he does cut taxes for the middle class, doesn't raise health insurance mandates, does support Israel, doesn't support the 'fairness doctrine', does support bipartisanship, doesn't support Employee Fair Choice Act, does keep the Bush tax cuts, doesn't retreat from Iraq, does go after bin Laden more aggressively, doesn't grow the government any bigger, does try to secure the borders humanely, etc. I will be interested in how he will govern a new way, with a new attitude in Wash DC! Also, I am still waiting for someone to tell me what government agency runs well(save the military) with great efficiency that is worth giving more money to? I am listening.
Posted 01:01 PM, 11/18/2008
liberal
NEPhilly, nobody I know who was in the military thinks it's well-run, even if they support their current mission. What are your sources on this? And as for the fairness doctrine, what about the much more important net neutrality issue?
Posted 01:04 PM, 11/18/2008
Talvenada
NE PHIL: You hope you're wrong on a dozen things, but if you're wrong on ONLY 11, you'll have a platform to demand Obama's resignation. Face facts: Bush tried his best, while Obama can NEVER try hard enough.
Posted 01:19 PM, 11/18/2008
tom - wilmington, de
Maybe I am just missing something, but Obama's immigration policy on his change.gov website reads an awful lot like the McCain position, as Obama lists securing the borders the top priority. So, with immigration so low on so many voters lists of important issues, why make this seem like the reason Hispanics voted against Republicans. The candidate who wins the tax debate usually wins the election, and Obama won the tax debate. He also won the debate on the economy, but will his actions match his rhetoric? If anybody should have won the Hispanic vote, it was McCain, but alas, immigration was not a major issue in this election. Hispanics are just like everybody else, they vote their pocketbook. That is why they won. For example, just like Indiana went for Obama but also re-elected Mitch Daniels (R) in a landslide as governor, how did Republicans do locally in those heavily Hispanic districts. If they split their tickets, then was it more a vote for Obama than a vote against Republicans? I think that would be an interesting thing to find out, then write about it.
Posted 01:21 PM, 11/18/2008
Djoko Pritza
Nalaka, Polman not only offers factual blogs with historical context, but also a pretty informed cultural context (your casual The Clash reference, for example). It's also impressive that so many who violently oppose his views continue to blog here. Maybe they like the challenge.
Posted 01:21 PM, 11/18/2008
NEPhilly
Guys, I was being nice in giving the military as run well:) That makes NO govt. agencies that are run well. I'm glad to see you admit that Bush at least tried his best! I said after the election, I will treat and respect Pres. Obama better than what the Dems did to Bush. I hope he does a good job as everyone will be better off, even Repubs, and the world will be a safer place:) I just want a loyal opposition that is allowed to question the government. Freedom of speech and freedom of the press are fundamental to a democracy, don't you think? lib, honestly, what is this 'net neutrality' thing in 3 sentences or less? Go:)
Posted 01:49 PM, 11/18/2008
CD75
Nalaka, Welcome. There are also many loons and cuckoos on this blog who have strange names.
Posted 01:56 PM, 11/18/2008
frankg962
Sleepy, California is bankrupt not because of immigration but because the agribusiness running farms in the Central Valley constantly circumventing the existing immigration laws and hiring illegals. The big lie perpetrated on all of us is that the Central Valley which is home to the Republicans in California consistently rails agains illegal immigration and then goes out and encourages it because the Republicans in the Central Valley want someone else to pick their crops.
Posted 01:58 PM, 11/18/2008
frankg962
I was thinking, you know CD should really change his handle to broken record although I doubt there are many who remember records....
Posted 02:04 PM, 11/18/2008
ModerateMarge
How about the number of new voters who went Democrat v Republican ? If the R's dont fix that they are doomed as well to minority status,
Posted 02:38 PM, 11/18/2008
CD75
frankg962: Wow, you really believe that about California? You should move to a collective, or better yet go to California and join up with other fruits and nuts. You be much happier.
Posted 03:27 PM, 11/18/2008
tom - wilmington, de
Back in 2004, it was estimated that illegal immigration costs California $10.5 Billion per year, which includes education, health care and incarceration. Backn in 2004, children of illegal immigrants made up 15% of the California education system student body, costing $7.7 Billion per year. In 2007, that costs rose to $11.7 Billion (which, ironically, was equal to the California budget deficit). So, of course, it is the fault of the Central Valley Agribusiness Republicans for California going bankrupt. After all, if not for them, California would not have an illegal immigration problem, the "sanctuary city" status of San Francisco, Los Angeles and others notwithstanding.
Posted 03:27 PM, 11/18/2008
LJL
It's simply whether intelligent, reality-based human beings like Pawlenty and Martinez will be selected to lead the GOP, or insane xenophobic ideologues (in other words, Rush Limberger, Sarah Palin and Sean Hannity) bent on making the US a white christian Iran that will determine whether the GOP remains a vibrant, useful party or a party relegated to the history books, in the same chapter with the Whigs and Free Soil Party, which is where they are currently heading. They lost the West, the NE, the Mid-atlantic, the rust belt and areas of the south not white and poor. The litmus test will be whether they can actually field a group of candidates that does not contain at least one candidate who REALLY REALLY thinks the earth is 6000 years old or that thinks god has chosen him to run. Oh, and if they can avoid rug burns on their knees from begging right-wing psuedo-religious hate-mongers like Hagee and Falwell to give them their "blessing"....
Posted 03:32 PM, 11/18/2008
jjfalcon35
I am a Hispanic and can tell you we are a very diverse constituency, urban, suburban, rural, liberal, conservative, which will remain a swing vote up for grabs. I do agree the recent immigration debate and the foreclosure crisis hurt the GOP in our community in this cycle. Obama also appealed culturally to us just for being different. Now comes the hard part for the Democrats and if they do not deliver on the issues the votes will not be there the next time around. As the Hispanic share of the population and the Democratic vote goes up, you will see louder cries for more political power and representation which, if not met by the other Democratic constituencies, could offer an opening for the GOP in this community
Posted 03:38 PM, 11/18/2008
tom - wilmington, de
The arguments of LJL and those like him are getting boring. First of all, Sarah Palin does not believe the earth is 6,000 years old. Neither do Rush Limbaugh nor Sean Hannity, and a lot of religious conseratives also believe the earth is older than 6,000, 10,000 or 14,000 years old. But even if a person did believe those things, how elitist to refer to them as kooks or nuts....because if someone called you a kook or a nut for believing otherwise or for not believing in religion, you would be offended. Must be that liberal tolerance we have heard so much about. Second, how we just ran a campaign that would have made Tim Pawlenty and Mel Martinez happy. Third, Obama ran a campaign in the general election where he stole the conservative themes of cutting taxes and "the government cannot solve all of our problems". Fourth, Democrats are being elected all over the country who are pro-life, pro-gun, pro-smaller government, pro-tax cuts, and pro-reduced spending. In other words, Democrats are being elected running on conservative platforms. So, why should Republicans run on the platforms that a lot of Democrats are abondoning?
Posted 03:52 PM, 11/18/2008
CD75
Per the Inky, Pa. is in dire budget shape. Of course, Philly is too. Democrats Fast Eddie Rendell and Mayor Peanut Nutter have run them into the ground. A preview of Obamnomics.
Posted 03:58 PM, 11/18/2008
Gibba Mang
Unless the Republicans can truly change their tone......I think this was just as much a reason why hispanics, and non whites for that matter, voted for Obama. The GOP tone over the past 15 years, and McCain's campaign, was extremely negative. Unfortunately, the GOP base is a bunch of angry, ignorant white folks with not much to add to the debate except hate. Truly sad.
Posted 04:19 PM, 11/18/2008
CD75
Notice how loons like Gibba like to accuse anyone who disagrees with them as hate? Gibba, what do you propose as to illegal aliens? What is wrong with McCain's view (P.S. he is a republican).
Posted 04:21 PM, 11/18/2008
CD75
Gibba, you forget that Hazelton Pa. is in a democrat county, run by democrats and the vast, vast majority of the population is democrat. Hate can swing both ways.
Posted 04:22 PM, 11/18/2008
jjfalcon35
Conservativs seems to have won the war when Democrats have to run as limited government, low taxes, strong military, mute on abortion, death penalty, guns and crime. We will see now if the base that catapulted Obama at the start ie radical academics, socialists, pacifists, environmentalists, unions, moveon, the nation mag etc will let him govern as the moderate Republican he ran as to win the Presidency
Posted 04:26 PM, 11/18/2008
Gibba Mang
what do you propose as to illegal aliens? What is wrong with McCain's view.....I actually agree with both Obama and McCain's position on illegal immigration. But you missed my point, I don't think hispanics and non whites were voting solely on the immigration issue. The general tone of the GOP has been very angry and bitter for years and it is finally catching up to them.
Posted 05:18 PM, 11/18/2008
p-diddy
Tom, if you can't even admit that immigration is high on Hispanic voters' political priorities, then.......nevermind.
Posted 05:21 PM, 11/18/2008
p-diddy
Wow Tom, some real zingers from you today. You don't think its kooky to believe that Earth is 10,000 years old? Really? Come on, be honest.
Posted 06:03 PM, 11/18/2008
swedesboromike
Once again taking political advice from an adversary is very unwise. We just ran a centrist for President who believed in the hoax of global warming, reaching accross the aisle, and supported amnesty for illegal aliens. That nominee was roundly demonized by the media and got trounced in the election. Running a liberal as the Republican nominee does not work. Getting back to the basics like fiscal responsibility, low taxes, energy independence, and strong national defense will win. Obama ran a campaign based largely on the afformentioned tenets and won.
Posted 06:57 PM, 11/18/2008
Talvenada
CONSERVATIVES need The WH, SC, House & Senate to have a voice in how this country is run w/ THEIR core values, as others are irrelevant.
Posted 07:09 PM, 11/18/2008
liberal
Tom--even though McCain and Obama had similar positions on immigration, hispanics were turned off by the tone of the republican base in addressing this issue. When you have endured risks and dangers to get here and work hard for low wages purely for the sake of your family, it is annoying to be called a criminal and an undesirable. Hispanics might take the concept of "legal" immigration more seriously if the US business community was not so eager and willing to hire them for low wages, and if the US government actually tried to prevent employers from hiring low-wage illegals.
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Posted 08:02 PM, 11/18/2008
swedesboromike
McSameoldbush- what in the world are you so bitter about?
Posted 09:09 PM, 11/18/2008
unknownblogger
You know after the elections were over and his candidate won, two weeks ago, I thought that Mr. Polman's articles would not be GOP bashing. I thought he would talk more about what his party would and could do. But I guess he just can't help himself!!
Posted 09:36 PM, 11/18/2008
Talvenada
Unknown: You are so right!! Polman should ONLY be looking at The Dems and Obama. Then, we can show him where he's wrong when he sees something in a positive light. Obama should resign now to avoid being impeached, right?
Posted 11:58 PM, 11/18/2008
yobill626
Bush was on the right side of this issue (electorally speaking) for years, & tried to steer his party to being the party for Hispanics to address this issue in their favor. I remember a few comments Rove made about the long term health of the GOP needing an influx of a new demographic (which he & Bush ID'd as the Hispanics). However, Lou Dobbs & several talk radio personalities got the Walmart Republicans pretty fired up on this & overwhelmed the effect of any efforts he may have had. Heck the number of eMails I got on the issue of illegal aliens was second only to Obama is a Muslim ones.
Posted 12:20 AM, 11/19/2008
nosmoke
Many hispanics are actually AGAINST illegal immigration. And remember that illegals cannot vote! McCain lost this election because he tried to out democrat the democrats. Cannot be done. He needed to shut up about pro-life and religion and concentrate on real, traditional, conservative principles. McCain didn't lose because of hispanics. What the republicans need next time is back to pure conservatism. Not the Sarah Palin type of rah-rah abortion-this, abortion-that, but the movement toward shrinking the federal government.
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Posted 12:55 AM, 11/19/2008
Delaware Jim
The Republicans should nominate, at every level, only war criminals, child molesters, and people who spit tobacco on the floor. Who knows? It might work! In any case, try it for 30 to 50 years.
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Posted 01:52 AM, 11/19/2008
tfarnath
What helped Obama in this election is what concerns me the most. The Latino population is exploding. Maybe it's because I live in California and we tend to see it a little more. I have nothing against the Latino people. My concern is with the amount of children they are having. The huge families, and the same thing goes for China and India. There is just no way for the planet to handle this much growth. We are clear cutting forests to make more farm land to feed all these people. I am very aware of this and as I consider the impact of bringing one person into this world it upsets me when I see huge Latino families. Obviously I know other large families, but not nearly as much as Latino's. It must be because of how big a role Catholicism plays in that community. Right?
Posted 01:52 AM, 11/19/2008
PennGuy86
Mr. Polman, you'd better be careful what you wish for. Latinos will come back to the GOP fold, as they continue to achieve the American Dream. It's never accurate to assume an ethnic group is a monolith, but Latinos are overwhelmingly Catholic (yet with a growing Pentecostal contingent), pro-life, pro-military, and pro-small business (simply stated, your worst nightmare, Mr. Polman). Congressional leaders like Jeff Flake, Jon Kyl, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the Diaz-Balart brothers, and others have been leaders on issues confronting the Latino community, and the GOP stands for the values and aspirations of Latinos better than the Democratic Party could ever aspire to. Though I certainly wish the President-Elect the best, his shortcomings will be a source of great disillusionment for all Americans. And the Republicans will make substantial gains in 2010.
Posted 03:10 AM, 11/19/2008
PMD
This election was probably the electoral bottoming out of the republican party. The outgoing president was rightly exiting as one of the most unpopular in history. The handling of Katrina, tone of the immigrant debate (they have some very good points but come off sounding, often justifiably, as slightly racist), questionable motives behind IRaq, and ethics scandals leave the party looking out of touch. The final blow was the Wall Street fallout, which undermines the republican de-regulation argument. McCain was a fighting against tremendous odds...The sweeping losses are probably the best thing that could've happened to the party. I think it makes Mr. Polman's point moot. There's political darwinism in play here. Republicans will court hispanics in the coming election cycles because they have to in order to remain viable nationally. The Tim Pawlentys of the party will become the new face and the pendelum will swing back the other direction. It will probably swing more quickly now that it's apparent that rhetoric of the religous right doesn't work anymore nationally.
Posted 04:41 AM, 11/19/2008
Jaguar
Once America figures out that our Senior Citizen population, Veterans of WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and Middle East Wars including IRAQ, and Afghanistan funds are quite limited, along with special needs children etc, the availability of Food Stamps,Education, Health Care and college tuition support for non-citizens, and especially Illegals will be further scrutinized and Voters will easily offset your cited statistics----Trust me, Americans may be ill informed on many topics and fail to see unjustices perpetrated on them by their elected officials time and again--However, Americans are smart enough to figure out at some point that resources to help people are limited and Dwindling---"Charity Begins in the Home" and Citizens come first with their needs---Illegals and "Pathway to citizenship models will become further and further Defined and Earned --The old fashioned way , not the political way when one buys voter loyalty with subsidy.
Posted 07:01 AM, 11/19/2008
swedesboromike
tfarnath-population growth in the United States is the engine of economic growth. This will help our economy grow and should get the real estate prices moving up in due time. The highest standards of living in the world are in the countries with the higher populations. There is nothing wrong with immigration so long as it is done legally. The process to come here legally is slow and ridiculous.
Posted 07:58 AM, 11/19/2008
frankg962
CD thanks for pointing out again the eastern bias against California. Learn a little about the state and you'll be amazed at how things work there. I did live there for over ten years and am very well versed in California politics. I was very happy in California and am equally happy here. I just can't stand ignorance.
Posted 08:07 AM, 11/19/2008
yobill626
I hope the GOP has bottomed out while beginning to shed their extremists & now go on the upswing. They caught two breaks yesterday when Begich won Alaska --- 1] They don't have to have a messy divorce with Ted Stevens & 2] It doesn't allow Caribou Barbie an easy slip into the Senate. Judging by the number of Republican poohbahs who took veiled shots at her earlier in the week, most of the GOP heirarchy believes the only place Palin will lead the GOP is off a cliff.
Posted 08:25 AM, 11/19/2008
CD75
frank: Eastern Bias? Come on. Not everyone is a victim. California is a wonderful state. You must really have self-issues if you do not like ignorance.
Posted 08:34 AM, 11/19/2008
CD75
In NYC, did you see an illegal immigrant who has been the attempts of previsous deportations killed 2 woman a couple of days ago? Does any liberal care? Guess Not.
Posted 08:38 AM, 11/19/2008
swedesboromike
yobill626- Why do you keep bashing Republicans? You got it all baby. The White House, the Senate, and the House. What is left to complain about?
Posted 08:47 AM, 11/19/2008
p-diddy
CD75, I sure hope you see the irony in your post from 8:34.
Posted 08:50 AM, 11/19/2008
CD75
piddy: If you knew the facts about him liberal helped keep him in the U.S.
Posted 08:57 AM, 11/19/2008
p-diddy
CD75, you don't even have your facts straight. The driver of the car that killed the two women wasn't an illegal immigrant. I can tell you really care.
Posted 09:09 AM, 11/19/2008
yobill626
sw-b-mike: Where in my post did you see a complaint? I don't like the fact that the Religious Right & the NeoCons have ruined the GOP. When one party only has strength in Appalachia & parts of the Midwest, that's a problem. As an American, I know this country needs two effective parties --- I want two effective parties. Its in all of our best interests for them to get their act together. They'll do it by following Pawlenty, Jindal, Sanford, etc. They won't if they listen to Palin & Limbaugh/Hannity.
Posted 09:14 AM, 11/19/2008
p-diddy
I stand corrected, he was an illegal immigrant - but there is no causal relationship between his being an illegal immigrant and his being a murderous drunk. But this type of argument (witness Tom Tancredo and Bill O'Reilly, for example) is exactly the type of rhetoric that has cost the GOP the trust of Hispanic voters. If you're interested in hate crimes, there were two in the past several days in the NYC area. A gang of white Long Island teens looked for a Hispanic man to attack, found Marcelo Lucero, a Columbian immigrant, and beat him to death. In the other incident, a car full of white men in Staten Island beat teenager Ali Kamara, a Muslim Liberian immigrant, while shouting "Obama".
Posted 10:27 AM, 11/19/2008
puttinonthefoil
In an election, rhetoric matters just as much or more than substance. McCain's substance sadly could not deflect the more bitter, anti-inclusive rhetoric coming from some sects of his party or those affiliated with it on the issue. Stoking xenophobia and "what's mine is mine" is not the way to go anymore, but the Howard Sterns of neo-con punditry and talk radio need their fans, and this zealotry sells. This won't really stop branding their party, even if the GOP actually does adopt a well thought out stance on the issue or any issue for that matter.
Posted 11:10 AM, 11/19/2008
DonQ
The writing is on the wall. The writing is in Spanish. It reads: Treat the Hispanic vote as a monolith at your peril. We are not a voting block. We are individuals, all with our needs, wants, fears and aspirations. Stop counting the Hispanic community as an unthinking block, and listen to what we have to say, do , and contribute to this Nation.
Posted 01:18 PM, 11/19/2008
James TL
I agreed with George Bush's centrist immigration policies, one of the few things I did agree with concerning his policies. Natuarally, his immigration policy was shot down by the neocons in his party. Hopefully now that they will soon be out of power a realistic policy pertaining to immigration will be passed. Deporting 12 million people is not realistic. Some, at least, must be granted amnesty.
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