It's a busy day, so brevity is a must. Let's just check in on the latest news about Joe the Plumber, who is coming to epitomize the dearth of intellect in the McCain campaign.
It was bad enough when John McCain severely damaged his electoral prospects, by nominating, as his vice president, somebody who knows virtually nothing about domestic and foreign policy...although, in Sarah Palin's case, one could argue that she at least has held elective office and grappled on some level with some issues. But the slippery slope to ignorance is indeed precipitous, to the point where now we have the unlicensed Samuel Wurzelbacher speaking at a McCain rally in
This is what happens when the clueless are given free rein, with the official blessing of the McCain campaign. Indeed, this episode yesterday was so egregious that it was even condemned, in clear and unequivocal terms...by Fox News.
Fox host Shepard Smith aired the "Joe" segment, then felt compelled to inject a dose of factual reality: "I just want to make this 100 percent perfectly clear - Barack Obama has said repeatedly and demonstrated repeatedly that Israel will always be a friend of the United States, no matter what happens once he becomes President of the United States. His words. The rest of it - man, some things--it just gets frightening sometimes."
He made that statement shortly after putting Wurzelbacher on the air for a little back and forth conversation, the kind that people with actual qualifications are expected to be able to handle. Smith explained Obama's stance on sustaining the American bond with Israel, and said to his guest: "He couldn't have been clearer about it in his positions and his speeches, and I just wonder what it is that makes you think that he's lying about that?"
The conservative hero, who apparently thinks he can see Israel from his house in
Smith asked, "What actions?"
Wurzelbacher said he didn't like it that Obama might decide to talk to Iran.
Smith asked how such a step, even if taken, could be interpreted as the death of Israel.
Wurzelbacher replied: "I'm not trying to be dancing around this. I honestly want people to go out and find their own reasons. I tell people not to listen to everyone else's opinion. I'm not going to have them start listening to mine. Go out and get informed."
Earlier in the conversation, he also said: "That is just my personal opinion that I've come up with by looking into different facts and what I think. That is what my message has been about. I haven't been telling people to go out and vote. Listen, you don't want my opinion on foreign policy. I know just enough about foreign policy to probably be dangerous."
Love those last two sentences. It's almost enough to make me pine for Palin.
What better evidence of how far the McCain campaign has fallen in the final days than the fact that even Fox News can't take it anymore?
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Joe the Plumber said on FOX, “Obama’s tax policies are breading mediocrity”. He understands that if you tax people too much they will stop working hard. Or they might switch to cash economy. Either way tax revenues go down. Joe the Plumber gets it, Obama does not. In the Soviet Union people used to say, “YOU PRETEND THAT YOU PAY, I PRETEND I WORK”, Joe understand, Obama doesn’t LostDemocracy
Priceless. Joe "the plumber" is the perfect symbol of what is the death-knell of the McCain-Palin campaign. This is not something that the usual McCain supporters who post here can wash away whines and lies ... but give it a second and they'll be hitting the keyboards with their usual lies and distortions. Still, that won't change the fact that Barack Obama is going to win big and get a definitive mandate for change that this country wants and needs. So, yammer on idiots!!! Go Phils! NipTip
tom/lastRepub: now that he's appearing at McCain sanctioned events are we allowed to be critical of poor Joe the plumber? still_independent
Something tells me ol'Joe wasn't expecting fastballs from Fox News. SteveMG
Comment removed.- Why, when your arguing a point, you have to set people up as your intellectual inferior? Argue your point on the merits for a change. I want to see the tape the LA Times won't release which supposedly shows Obama partying with Rashid Khalidi at a banquet in which some speakers may have lashed out at Israel. The banquet was also attended by Bill Ayres (there he is again, but don't worry about that). I'm sure if the tape is of no consequence, the LA Times shouldn't mind sharing it with all of us, right? That's OK though, I'm sure before Tuesday, a blogger will do the media's job and produce the tape so voters can get to the truth and make an informed decision. jmc
LostDemocracy Were you and J the P seperated a birth? What the hell are you taling about? Pls translate yourmessage to any of the many languages spoken on Earth. Thanks, mo. Malachy
Anyone who can defend or "explain" Joe, "not-the plumber" tax cheat in a way that says Joe "understands" anything except what the McCain camp wants him to say (but Joe is apparently too stupid to recite the talking points) and ends up embarrassing the candidate and ruining the message, clearly doesn't understand either McCain's Bush tax policy or Obama's tax plans. SteveMG - LOL - ol' Joe wasn't expecting anything - that is one wickedly empty bald head on that boy!!! Wonder how many campaign stops we'll be seeing him at from now on or if he'll be "lunching" with Carly and the others. PattyPat1962
jmc - you sure you want to go there - McCain has his own Khalidi problem: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/mccain-funded-work-of-pal_n_138606.html McCain Funded Work Of Palestinian His Campaign Hopes To Tie To Obama During the 1990s, while he served as chairman of the International Republican Institute (IRI), McCain distributed several grants to the Palestinian research center co-founded by Khalidi, including one worth half a million dollars. A 1998 tax filing for the McCain-led group shows a $448,873 grant to Khalidi's Center for Palestine Research and Studies for work in the West Bank. The relationship extends back as far as 1993, when John McCain joined IRI as chairman in January. Foreign Affairs noted in September of that year that IRI had helped fund several extensive studies in Palestine run by Khalidi's group, including over 30 public opinion polls and a study of "sociopolitical attitudes." PattyPat1962
Anyone remember the noose controversy last year at Hallloween? See link below. Why is there no outrage when a effigy of Palin is hung on someone's property? Can you imagine if it was Obama? There there would be outrage. Where are those people from last year that screamed facism at the sight of a noose? http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=2059 thelastRepublicaninPhilly
I saw that clip with that comment and cringed. Some people should not be allowed near a microphone. However, given Obama's support for Rashid Khalidi, to the point of attending and speaking at that tribute dinner back in 2003 that the LA Times will not release the video of, who knows how Obama really feels about Israel. Sure, Israel will always be our friend, says Obama, but to what extent? Remember, this is the candidate who flip flopped on what he said about Jerusalem not once but twice, so we shall see what we shall see. tom - wilmington, de
McCain doesn't have illegal funds since he went thru public financing. But Obama's campaign has bee receiving million is illegal donations from other countries. The Obama camp even admits that it's not checking on untraceable credit cards. But why would they, it's free money. thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Obama is naive thinking he can talk his way out of keeping Iran from getting a nuke and wiping Israel off the map. So yeah, voting for someone like Obama who is shown to be weak an naive is very bad for Israel. Is THIS the possible test that Biden mentioned, the destruction of Israel with a nuke or a pre-emptive strike against Israel conducted by Iran and funded by Russia? thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Gibba, because Palin took from the oil companies and gave to everyone...she did not take from one class of people to give to another class of people...but you probably do not see the difference. Obama in 2001:"I think we can say that the Constitution reflected an enormous blind spot in this culture that carries on until this day and that the framers had that same blind spot. I don't think the two views are contradictory, to say that it was a remarkable political document that paved the way for where we are now and to say that it also reflected the fundamental flaw of this country that continues to this day." Thomas Jefferson, 1801 inaurgural:"A wise and frugal government shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned." tom - wilmington, de
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