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Biden with the wind at his back

Sarah Palin channels Marge Gunderson

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Biden with the wind at his back

POSTED: Friday, October 3, 2008, 3:01 AM

Both Joe Biden and Sarah Palin performed well in the debate last night, meeting their respective challenges. Biden showed off his policy fluency, touted his running mate's message of "fundamental change," treated Palin with respect even when contradicting her (thus avoiding the charge of sexist bullying), and over a span of 90 minutes said nothing that could be construed as a gaffe. As for Palin, she was verbally crisp (for a change), efficiently on message about McCain, relentlessly assertive in her criticisms of the Democratic ticket, and relentlessly folksy.

Folksy, for sure: "...go to a kid's soccer game...I betcha....darn right it was the predatory lenders...Joe six pack...hockey moms across the nation...a heckuva lot...darn right we need tax relief...now doggone it..."

After awhile, I started to think I was listening to Marge Gunderson, the pregnant hick cop in Fargo.

All told, Palin excelled to the best of her abilities - a welcome respite for worried Republican partisans. But, given Biden's solid performance (particularly during the final 30 minutes), it's doubtful that Palin changed the dynamics of a race that appears, by every objective polling measure, to be tilting increasingly Democratic. Indeed, Biden was deemed the clear winner of the debate in polls conducted last night by CNN and ABC. Even if those double-digit margins diminish over the next 48 hours, it's hard to imagine that Palin will ultimately succeed in shifting momentum to McCain.

She gave it her best effort, aided by two factors. Gwen Ifill, the moderator, let her off easy. When Palin didn't feel like answering the question posed to her, Ifill didn't try to pin her down. Perhaps this was because Palin's allies had pre-spun the debate with their insinuations that Ifill was in the tank for Barack Obama, and as a result Ifill wanted to bend over backwards to be fair. Whatever the reason, the result was a break for Palin. At one point, she simply told Biden, "I may not answer the questions that either the moderator or you want to hear."

Her dismissive stance was particularly useful when Ifill asked a good question about whether Palin agrees with Dick Cheney's concept of a...shall we say...vigorous vice presidency. Palin responded with evasive gibberish: "Well, our founding fathers were very wise there in allowing through the Constitution much flexibility there in the office of the vice president. And we will do what is best for the American people in tapping into that position and ushering in an agenda that is supportive and cooperative with the president's agenda in that position. Yeah, so I do agree with him that we have a lot of flexibility in there, and we'll do what we have to do to administer very appropriately the plans that are needed for this nation." There was no follow up from Ifill. Granted, the rules for this debate supposedly barred her from following up, but there are many ways for a moderator to pursue an evasive candidate - by reminding viewers that a question was not answered, or by subsequently rephrasing the question.  

The second factor aiding Palin was gender-based. Palin was free to go after Biden (male), but if Biden went after Palin (female), he risked looking like a bully. So he was forced to spend much of his time in reactive mode, seeking to fend off her attacks ("The charge is absolutely not true...That is simply not true"). Clearly she was trying to roil him to the point where he'd commit a verbal miscue worthy of repeated video replay. He didn't take the bait - his tone was calm, his manner was firm - but no debater can get maximum mileage by playing defense. (He was even reactive on the folksy stuff. She led with hockey moms and Joe six pack; he came back later with Katy's Diner and Home Depot.)

Palin demonstrated in this debate that she has estimable communication skills. Millions of viewers undoubtedly fixated on her perky delivery - which is lucky for her, given the fact that her blatant falsehoods were so numerous. When falsehoods are delivered with a smile, many viewers will simply absorb them and remember the smile. I'm not going to list them all, because I've dealt with so many of them at length in this space before - such as the fakery about Obama supposedly voting for higher taxes "94 times," and the fakery about Obama supposedly voting to raise taxes on people making $42,000, and the tall tale about how McCain supposedly "sounded that warning bell" on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac back in 2006, whereas, in reality, McCain finally signed on to an oversight bill 16 months after its initial Senate sponsors had rung the bell.  

But three other falsehoods are worth recounting. Palin insisted, for instance, that Biden was a hawk on Iraq, just like McCain, until the '08 campaign commenced; as she told Biden, "you had supported John McCain's military strategies pretty adamantly until this race." That charge can charitably be described as total baloney. When President Bush announced his plans for the troop surge, shortly after the '06 elections, McCain signed on in full support. Biden did the opposite; as the new Foreign Relations Committee chairman in 2007, he and his invited witnesses denounced the move in a series of hearings.

Palin also recycled the persistent McCain falsehood about how U.S. troop levels in Iraq supposedly have been drawn down to "pre-surge levels." This has been factually refuted many times - when Bush leaves office, there will be roughly 3000 more soldiers on the ground than before the surge - but Palin's handlers probably figured that the fakery would work anew if delivered by a folksy messenger.

Meanwhile, on the domestic falsehood front, Palin said this to Biden: "Now, you said recently that higher taxes or asking for higher taxes or paying higher taxes is patriotic. In the middle class of America which is where Todd and I have been all of our lives, that's not patriotic." But Biden has never said that paying higher taxes in patriotic (Palin implied that Biden believes this as a matter of principle), nor that he specifically views higher middle-class taxes as patriotic (as Palin's second sentence implied). During an interview two weeks ago with ABC News, Biden merely stated that Americans earning more than $250,000 annually should be prepared to give up their Bush tax cuts, for the common good: "It’s time to be patriotic, time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut.”

Biden had a few falsehoods of his own. He kept insisting that McCain has voted "20 times" against alternative energy, whereas the nonpartisan watchdogs at factcheck.org believe that the real number is roughly half that large. He also recycled an old Obama charge about how McCain supposedly wants to deregulate the entire "health care industry," whereas in reality McCain was only talking (in one line of a magazine story) about making it easier for people to purchase health care across state lines. But, ultimately, Biden had the wind at his back. He had the advantage of framing this election as a referendum on eight years of Republican rule ("the economic policies of the past eight years have been the worst economic policies we've ever had"), and making his pitch to an electorate that seems increasingly primed for change.

Palin tried to parry this strategy in folksy fashion, mixing her Marge with a Reagan oldie but goodie - "Say it ain't so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again. You preferenced your whole comment with the Bush administration. Now doggone it, let's look ahead" - but what she (and her handlers) appear to be forgetting is that Reagan won his race in 1980 by pointing the electorate backwards to the failings of Jimmy Carter's Democratic administration. An election is typically a referendum on the in party, and Sarah Palin is too ill-qualified to alter that dynamic all by herself; indeed, the CNN/Opinion Research poll reports that a majority of Americans questioned her fitness before the debate, and a majority still questioned her fitness afterwards.

In political terms, she at least staunched her bleeding, but she's not credible enough to close the sale for McCain. That job is his alone.

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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:08 AM, 10/03/2008
    It's a petty thing, but this always drove me nuts w/ Bush - Sarah, the word is "nuclear", not "nuc-u-ler".
    still_independent
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:16 AM, 10/03/2008
    Biden was all facts, whether true or not. It was wave after wave coming at you, and difficult to process. However he did a good job being respectful to Palin while still being on the attack as is the VP role. Palin had a simpler message and talked directly to the American people. I heard a pundit on the radio this morning say that what Biden knows you can learn, but you can't learn what Palin knows, and that's how to talk to the American people. Biden was the politician, with a thick veneer of 35 years in the Senate. Palin is obviously new to the game, but that freshness helped. There's alot of anger at Washington out there, people don't need to hear a politician speak, they need to hear someone like themselves speak, and that's Palin's strength. The first Presidential debate on foreign policy was a tie, and that helped Obama because he is weaker in that area. This VP debate was a tie and that helps McCain because, let's face it, you have a newcomer vs. a 35 year Senator.
    jmc
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:18 AM, 10/03/2008
    If you want more of the same the Biden and Obama are your guys. The Senate version of the bailout included things like 192 million to give Rum Distillers in Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Island a tax break. check out Taxpayors for common sense at www.taxpayer.net to see the idiotic nonsense added to the bailout bill. Biden and his cronies are the same people who threatened discrimination lawsuits agains lenders who would not lend to unqualified applicants. Biden and his cronies are the same people who allowed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to back loans that were highly speculative. So if you believed the Joe " slick Joey " Biden last night then vote for that ticket. You'll get the government you deserve! Palin on the other hand is not so far removed of the reality of balancing a check book that I would welcome her common sense personality as the VP of the United States.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:19 AM, 10/03/2008
    The big story is McCain's pulling out of Michigan. His road to 270 is dwindling by the day. His campaign is again back to being (almost) as screwed up as he was in late July. Why is he still going to Iowa (which he won't get despite a trip this week), & pulling out of Michigan? They have a poorly-viewed Dem governor & a recently removed creep of a Dem mayor in Detroit who's generated some racial polarity there on top of an already crippled economy. Maybe they were getting info from Macomb County indicating they weren't getting anywhere (but I don't see how)? These guys lost their focus when real life took interest away from their cosmetics on farm animals campaign.
    yobill626
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:25 AM, 10/03/2008
    Palin "won" the debate by a score of 3-2, which means that Biden accomplished his goal - don't give up the long ball and blow Obama's lead.
    CD75
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:27 AM, 10/03/2008
    $ 200,000 for the Rose City Archery club in the Myrtle Point Oregon was added to the bailout bill. The money amounts to a tax break for using wooden arrows for the children practicing archery. Money well spent???? This is the nonsense these career politicians put into spending bills. McCain has never added a pet project to any bill. When watching the debate last night I saw slick Joey Biden saying one thing to the American people knowing that he is as much the problem with spending as anyone in Washington. If you want more of these type of people who say one thing to your face then squander your hard earned money the next then vote Obama-Biden and you can expect to add a few more trillion to the national debt
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:30 AM, 10/03/2008
    She most certainly did not win that debate. She had a significantly imporved performance from her previous outings. But the bar she set previously is not the measuring stick, she is not in this job yet. Improvement from previous performances is not enough. It's the bar set by her opponent that matters. She was outperformed. Speaking in an informed manner and in coherent sentenses is the absolute minimum standard a candidate for Pres or VP should be able to meet. Most Americans are either relieved or surprised she was able to do so. We need better, we deserve better, we will elect better.
    gee1971
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:32 AM, 10/03/2008
    I agree with jmc's asessment. She's fresh & has obviously begun to get her act together after being with Couric. The "Shout out" to the 3rd grade class in Alaska was inspired. I'm just hoping that Americans aren't so angry at Washington that they'd vote for a candidate who's best attributes are apparently a smile & a wink. The only way I want "Hockey Mom" in the VP Mansion next year is on a visit to our VP Joe Biden.
    yobill626
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:35 AM, 10/03/2008
    So what Polin is saying is that people who are like Marge Gunderson in Fargo are too stupid, hokie, and unpolished to be VP. Anyone who has ever seen the movie Fargo would know that despite the " awe shocks " personality Marge Gunderson got the bad buy in the end and saved the day. I don't know why media moguls hire guys like Polman. The snobbery is nauseating.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:52 AM, 10/03/2008
    Comparing Palin to the "hick" cop in Fargo? That is a slur. So people from North Dakota are hicks, but people from the northast are somehow better because they live in the northeast? She has an accent, so what? Would you make fun of her if she had a Boston accent or a Long Island accent?
    CD75
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:53 AM, 10/03/2008
    Nothing changed, which means barring some unforeseen event before Election Day, our next President will be Barack Obama.
    Waiting4U
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:56 AM, 10/03/2008
    It was funny how easy it was to spot her transitions between ad libs and well-practiced talking points. She would fumble around until she could make it to the pre-programmed message and then she was fine, even if she never actually answered the question presented. It seems pretty clear from the responses here that everyone thought that their horse won, which seems to mean it probably did little to sway anyone that could be swayed.
    etotheb
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