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Tuesday, August 26, 2008



DENVER - Democrats are trying to have some fun at John McCain's expense by passing out oversized buttons emblazoned with the slogan, "Ask Me How Many Houses I Own" - they're suddenly ubiquitous on the 15-block downtown pedestrian mall - and some of the politicians are working the topic into their conversations. When McCain's name came up during a panel discussion earlier today, Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar quipped, "People who live in seven houses shouldn't throw stones." And when Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius got to the convention podium early this evening, she joked that McCain has added new lines to an old American homily: "There's no place like home. And a home. And home. And home."

So what is McCain's latest strategy to blunt the potential damage of his admission that he can't enumerate the family residences without the assistance of staff?

Play the POW card, shamelessly so.

There once was a time, back in his "maverick" days, when the fawning Washington press corps wrote at great length about how McCain was (supposedly) reluctant to talk about his POW experience for political purposes. This actually wasn't true; during his first congressional race, when McCain was accused of being a carpetbagger because he had moved to the district in order to run for office, he got his opponent to back off by declaring that "the place I lived longest in my life was Hanoi." In the late '90s, when he was ensnared in the Keating S&L scandal, he huffed to inquisitive reporters that "even the Vietnamese didn't question my ethics." Nevertheless, his fans in the Washington press spread the myth that McCain didn't do such things.

Well, he did it yet again last night, playing the POW card on Jay Leno's show. (By the way, this was the celebrity politician's thirteenth appearance on Leno, pulling him even with Jennifer Love Hewitt. Barack Obama has appeared once.)

And when Leno quipped about the candidate's housing cluelessness, thereby suggesting anew to a mass audience that McCain's life bears no resemblance to the lives led by average Americans, the GOP candidate immediate dove for political cover by donning the old prison garb:

"Could I just mention to you, Jay, a moment of seriousness. I spent five and a half years in a prison cell. I didn't have a house. I didn't have a kitchen table. I didn't have a table. I didn't have a chair. And I didn't spend those five-and-a-half years because, not because I wanted to get a house when I got out."

Good grief, what's next with this guy? He must be a blast around the house: "Cindy, I refuse to take out the garbage. I lived in garbage for five and a half years." But seriously folks, I can hear him now, on the campaign trail: "To those who impugn my honor by pointing out that I now support permanent Bush tax cuts for the rich after having voted against them, I need only mention that, after all the suffering I endured for five and a half years, I have now earned the right to change my mind."

Using the POW years for political inocculation may be a shameless tactic, but, for a sizeable number of voters, it probably works. Which is why he has always done it, despite occasional claims that he would never stoop to such a thing. Witness this McCain remark, from 1999: "One of the things I've never tried to do is exploit my Vietnam service to my country, because it would be totally inappropriate to do so."

Although if he keeps trying to duck criticism in this manner, Joe Biden (updating his old quip about Rudy Giuliani's 9/11 mantra) may well be compelled to lament that McCain's candidacy is basically a noun, a verb, and POW.



   
Posted by Dick Polman @ 7:41 PM  Permalink | 145 comments
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Posted 08:20 PM, 08/26/2008
tom - wilmington, de
I think Biden should come out with the quip. What better way to belittle a man's service than to criticize him for it. Also funny how all of a sudden houses are critical in this election. Obama, living in a $1.6 million mansion he bought with help from Rezko (who got $14 million in federal grants thanks to Obama) can also be said to be out of touch with the average American. After all, elitism has nothing to do with wealth. The Democrat candidate in 2004 owns at least 6 houses, but that did not stop him and the liberals in the media (notice I did not say liberal media) never said he was out of touch with the average American. Kennedy was just championed as having a career fighting for the common man, yet he lives in a compound and probably could not tell anybody what he net worth is, he also never had to skip a meal due to being laid off from work or missing a mortgage payment....yet he is in touch with average America. So what gives with this whole deal? Liberals love Michael Bloomberg, a BILLIONAIRE. Does it matter how many houses he has? You guys must not have too much to criticize McCain about if all you can come up with is "he has 7 houses" (FYI - Kerry has 6).
Posted 08:38 PM, 08/26/2008
ObamaHATER
It's obvious Tom that that have nothing on McCain. McCain is their worst nightmare. Not only his he squeaky clean but he agrees with a large part of their agenda. This is desperate times for the dumb libs and it's funny to watch them squirm and throw darts. If I was McCain I would ignore anything they say and keep them on the defensive, no?
Posted 08:48 PM, 08/26/2008
tom - wilmington, de
Anytime they bring up the house issue, McCain should quote Bill Clinton and simply say "no attack about what a person owns ever fed a hungry child....." and he could elaborate and say "or paid the mortgage for a laid off worker. I am going to stop talking about either my or my opponents houses and simply concentrate on how I can help the American families reach the same level of success both Senator Obama, my wife's father and I all achieved".
Posted 09:01 PM, 08/26/2008
mcnuckel
Nobody is attacking McCain because he owns ten houses. It's the fact that people are losing their homes left and right and this flipent statement that he didn't know is an elitest answer. McCain is an idiot and I use to like the guy. He said that he would never run a negative campain like Rove ran against him and he lied to the American people . His campain is one lying commercial after another, disgraceful and embarrassing. The man has lost all credibility.
Posted 09:07 PM, 08/26/2008
Amanda 19148
Guess what... If you aren't intelligent enough to know that you can't afford a 4 bedroom house, you better get your self a little 2 bedroom. It's not anyone else's fault that you made a uneducated business transaction by living above your means. I rent because I cannot afford a house right now, therefore I do not have to worry about foreclosures. Think people think... A hand out will not always be available!
Posted 09:20 PM, 08/26/2008
ObamaHATER
Apperently you cannot say polman's first name without them pulling your comment. Tom, I was saying that maybe McCain should say that his houses are 7 for 7 for not being financed by a convicted felon, while the messiah's houses are 0 for 1. Where is mention of this in your talking points blog polman?
Posted 09:32 PM, 08/26/2008
mcnuckel
How do you know that all of McCain's houses are all clean? you have know idea, you don't even know how many he has, and now your saing they're all clean. Typical B.S from a die hard publican.
Posted 09:40 PM, 08/26/2008
yoda
No Democrat is being disrespectful of McCain's military service. McCain himself is exploiting it (as he said he would not do) by suggesting that it in some way qualifies him to be President. It doesn't. He was a much more compelling candidate in 2000, and our country would be far better off now if the Supremes had appointed him President instead of Lil' Bush. Now, however, he has evolved into Pander Bear, and he is an empty suit. It has been a sad and rather revolting spectacle watching him turn into a right-wing toady.
Posted 09:54 PM, 08/26/2008
ObamaHATER
The messiah hasn't done Leno's show as often because his skin is so thin that he would begrudge a funny look. How is that going to translate into reaching out to republicans for bi-partison support, like Pres. Bush did with the drunk Kennedy? YODA who are you refering to as supremes? "In a per curiam decision, by a 7-2 vote, the Court in Bush v. Gore held that the Florida Supreme Court's method for recounting ballots was a violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment."-Wikipedia (7-2) indicates that it was a matter of prudence. It's so hard deciphering what dumb libs are talking about.
Posted 09:54 PM, 08/26/2008
anonymous
I can't say that McCain gets much sympathy from me on the house thing, but I sure am already sick of hearing Dems bring it up. We get the joke already.
Posted 10:24 PM, 08/26/2008
mcnuckel
Keep poking them in the eye with it till it bleeds. Pure Rovian poitics.
Posted 10:32 PM, 08/26/2008
PennGuy86
Projecting your own insecurities about having never served your country and never done anything worthwhile, I see. McCain is more of a man than you could ever hope to be, Mr. Polman.
Posted 10:36 PM, 08/26/2008
JimR
Hater, the country would have been in better shape if McCain had been elected in 2000. He was shredded by his own party. That's still tough to take.
Posted 11:01 PM, 08/26/2008
Herc66
Polman, you are not a journalist nor a columnist...you are a shill with an agenda. You don't deserve the nickels the Inquirer is paying you.
Posted 11:28 PM, 08/26/2008
Echo
Mcnuckel, eyes don't actually bleed. You should fire your fact-checkin... oh wait, Democrats don't deal in facts.
Posted 12:02 AM, 08/27/2008
Djoko Pritza
He sure does have more houses than Polman.
Posted 12:19 AM, 08/27/2008
yobill626
Simply because of the nation's housing problem, this wouldn't even be a blip on the radar any other year. Its not an issue because he owns a lot of homes, its that he owns so many homes he can't keep track of them. How is this any different then the picture (& neverending comments) the GOP threw around of John Kerry windsurfing?
Posted 12:50 AM, 08/27/2008
yobill626
I agree with JimR completely. I think McCain's time in history was 2000. Although the NeoCons have imbedded themselves in his campaign now, I don't see that happening 8 years ago. Too bad for us...
Posted 04:06 AM, 08/27/2008
Talvenada
HATER: Those were nice HIT jobs on US MARINE w/ the being frugal w/ GI Benefits, while blowing billions per month in Iraq and EVERYBODY paying less taxes. The people of color hit job was classic w/ the dissing of hope. Why don't they see tax cuts as THE issue, like you, for example? My favorite thought is the discrediting of Polman when he's on the other side of the issue, but is okay when he takes your side of things.
Posted 05:16 AM, 08/27/2008
Rome-Rox
Democrats The Party of Unity!!
Posted 06:10 AM, 08/27/2008
philly3t0
Obama and the dems should keep talk of houses completely out of the debate, afterall it is obama who was given a house $300,000 below market value by a convicted felon-Rezko. Do you really want to go there????
Posted 06:40 AM, 08/27/2008
centercitysam
We need Joe Bidden to get thoes Plastic Undetectable Glock pistols off the streets including 60% of the police departments in the USA who issue this invisable weapon. Joe spent years and valuable political capitol warning us about this menace. We must act now.
Posted 06:40 AM, 08/27/2008
centercitysam
We need Joe Bidden to get thoes Plastic Undetectable Glock pistols off the streets including 60% of the police departments in the USA who issue this invisable weapon. Joe spent years and valuable political capitol warning us about this menace. We must act now.
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Posted 08:26 AM, 08/27/2008
tdoc
Playing that POW card is a shameless act..I saw him do it on Letterman...he forced the comment in too...It's obvious the GOP just threw him to the wolves cause this election is not attainable...even with the dems in a bit of disarray.
Posted 08:28 AM, 08/27/2008
jwad56
The Whiner is at it again -- http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Obama_camp_Prosecute_Simmons.html
Posted 08:36 AM, 08/27/2008
longshanks
Oh gee, look we have an Amanada 19148 now. Did the GOP sign you up too honey to post your hate messages here? It's funny that the Republicans could belittle John Kerry's war service yet we're supposed to stand at attention and salute this old relic's military service. This guy is half way into a diaper where he should be....I'm pretty sure they don't stock diapers at the White House. Time to move on from the hate, bigotry, and recklessness of the McSame/Bush years...Obama/Biden '08!
Posted 08:47 AM, 08/27/2008
chalfontzfinezt
He was a wrestler, boxer, fighter pilot, POW, tough guy. He comes home from war and getting tortured, marries an uber-babe with money. He signs a prenup, they keep there finances seperate for 30+ years. They have 2 sons in the military, and adopt from orphanges to further share their blessings. They own condos in VA (john's primary residence), AZ (Cindy's primary residence), another in AZ (where an elderly aunt lives), and CA (where a son lives, as he is stationed near San Diego). Denver, we have a problem.
Posted 08:47 AM, 08/27/2008
tom - wilmington, de
longshanks follows up the Republican hate machine comment with nothing but loathing, derogatory, hate filled put downs of McCain and whoever comments in disagreement with his POV. That is the liberal mantra...agree with me or you are a dope, an ignorant voter, and you preach nothing but hate and fear. Question...who first brought up Willie Horton in 1988? Answer...Al Gore. Question....which party put ads in Mississippi saying either vote for them or crosses will burn and your children will suffer.....Answer...Democrats in Mississippi. Question...which party put out ads saying vote for their candidate or more hate crimes like James Bird will follow throughout the state...Answer...Democrats against Bush running for governor. So yes, those Republicans and their hate filled fear mongering messages have nothing on the Demoncrat party. And John Kerry used fake soldiers to spread lies about troops in Vietnam (remember the Winter Soldier fiasco) and faked throwing his medals over the White House fence. Nough said.
Posted 08:51 AM, 08/27/2008
p-diddy
Tom, actually most NYC liberals voted for Ferrer, the Democrat.
Posted 08:58 AM, 08/27/2008
Wayne
You want facts? Here's one: McBush has the highest absentee rating of any Senator. Let's see him try to use his POW captivity as an excuse for that (he cast his last vote on April 8).
Posted 09:04 AM, 08/27/2008
dan19148
Anyone questioning his time as a POW is just a sick person, it's like you can have no shame if you support Obama, the mentality just completely turns me off from the possibility (among so many other reasons) of voting Democrat.
Posted 09:17 AM, 08/27/2008
PhillyPhoton
This article reminds me why I cancelled my Philadelphia Inquirer subscription (I live in Collegeville, PA). Their "Perspectives" editorial section has no perspective - their editorial people seem unable to fathom the thinking of anyone who is not a flaming Obama Democrat. Anyways, on topic, we all understand that Senators have money. Obama and his wife made $4.2 million last year, for example. We understand that McCain married a wealthy woman. Good for him. We also know that some spouses split responsibilities. I handle finances while my wife handles social and medical responsibilities. This is a weak line of attack for Democrats, and it does nothing to address the real issues facing our country.
Posted 09:18 AM, 08/27/2008
jjfalcon35
What about noun verb hope and change. Competing backgorunds is going to be the battleground of the coming weeks Mr Polman. You wonder why nobody can pull a long convincing narrative on Obama in this week Dem convention. Well there is not much there. All this marketing of Obama will be exposed as the farce he is when millions will be spent on showing America what he has been up to as a legislator back in Illinois as wellas the common causes he has shared with anti American zealots
Posted 09:27 AM, 08/27/2008
Gibba Mang
Explain again how being a POW prepares anyone for being POTUS? Right, it doesn't.
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Posted 09:35 AM, 08/27/2008
GA in Blue Bell
The issue is compitency. The man is mentally defficient. This is a senility question. He is loosing it. He talks about the Iraq boarder with Pakistan, he doens't know the difference between Sunnis and Shihites. He is just more Bush bluster and has no clue how to reach nonmilitary solutions. He admits he doesn't know much about the economy. If this guy is slipping in his thought process this much, what will he be like in 3 or 4 years? Obama is extremely smart. I will bet my money on an extremely smart person making decisions based on judgement over a guy who is not the sharpest tool in tool box and is getting duller by the day.
Posted 09:36 AM, 08/27/2008
jfar86
Gibba, how does being a "community organizer," whatever that is, and serving 143 days in the U.S. Senate prepare anyone for being POTUS?
Posted 09:37 AM, 08/27/2008
Morgo
Why should I pay for illegal alien's healthcare Barry when you won't even help your own brother?
Posted 09:43 AM, 08/27/2008
jwad56
"Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go." - Barack Obama .... Now that is one sharp tool!
Posted 09:45 AM, 08/27/2008
Gibba Mang
jfar...the issue is that neither Obama, nor Clinton, would make the same bone headed mistakes that Bush/McCain have over the last 8 years. If you are OK with a falling dollar, higher fuel prices, a banking mess, two unfinished wars and record borrowing and record debt, then by all means vote McShame. If you want a better world for your family, vote Obama/Biden '08!
Posted 09:47 AM, 08/27/2008
Disgusted
Asked his position on women, McCain replied "Missionary". Seriously, any PUMA feminist who votes for theis guy because Hillary didn't make it should have the sanity questioned. I'm just sorry Biden won't debate him, as he'd chew him up and spit him out. Per the "Tonight Show", the answer to Jay Leno's question about how many houses is NOT "I was a P.O.W." No, age shouldn't be an issue here but it is called the "Grand OLD Party" after all.
Posted 09:49 AM, 08/27/2008
tom - wilmington, de
Yes Obama is smart...smart enough to know how to spell competency, smart enough to campaign on all 57 states, smart enough to attend a church every week for 20 years but never hear an incendiary sermon, smart enough to stutter and stammer when a teleprompter is absent, smart enough to pick a VP candidate who supported a war he says was an error in judgement, smart enough to pick a VP candidate who on Meet the Press in 2004 said about the war "this was no Cheney pipe dream...everyone believed Saddam had WMD's". Now that is smart. And to Gibba, nobody is saying that McCain's time as a POW gives him the creds to be POTUS (although how being a community organizer gives you the creds is also puzzling), but it is McCain's overall experience that gives him the creds. What his status as a POW who refused release gives him is an example of service to his country, to his fellow man, and says a world about his character. What has BO done in his life that says anything about his character, and what gives him experience to be POTUS. The toughest decision BO ever made was not supporting the war in 2003, so that means it was easy for him to vote several times to fund a war he was against, easy for him to vote to deny medical treatment for infants born of botched abortions (oh yeah, gotta protect Roe v Wade), easy for him to vote "present" and not take a stand on over a hundred bills as a state senator, and easy for him to vote for the FISA bill granting immunity to the Telecoms. So, where is his character test?
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Posted 09:51 AM, 08/27/2008
BF
At least McCain has a noun, verb, and POW. Obama just has a verb: change. Whopp-dee-do.
Posted 09:51 AM, 08/27/2008
Straight Talk Hawk
WHY WON'T MCAMNESTY RELEASE HIS MILITARY RECORDS? ANSWER: He is a case study on the type of guy you DO NOT WANT in the military--totally reckless, hot-headed, and foolish. I still want to know how "war hero" got away with killing all those guys on the Forrestal, where his Admiral Daddy quickly got him off the ship so the survivors didn't dispense quick military justice. Maybe he will do like he did with his medical records and release a censored version of the military records the Friday night before Labor Day weekend--"Slick Talk", but not enough. The establishment media should be screaming bloody murder that ALL the records be released. How about it? I am sure the Democrats will Swiftboard him like he Swiftboated Kerry. Justice for McFraud!
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Posted 09:55 AM, 08/27/2008
jjfalcon35
You guys do not get that hating Bush and his legacy is not enough reason for the American people to give the Presidency to just anybody the Democrat Party nominates. Get that into your brain. Obama has never delivered on anything, promises hope and change and a long list of high tax, high spending policies and militay weakness when you scratch the bottom of the barrel. His promises inspire the confidence any thin resume would, his commitment to them already questioned based on his 180 cahnges on Iraq, oil, FISA, guns on and on
Posted 09:57 AM, 08/27/2008
tom - wilmington, de
I love how the liberals frame everything as Bush/McCain when McCain was not part of the administration. So I guess it can also be Bush/Obama and Bush/Biden since they also voted for several of Bush's policies, including those that the libs believe deny our civil liberties. You want a denied civil liberty? Then try driving in NJ while on your cell phone, ask for french fries with trans fats in New York, pass a cop without your seat belt fastened, tell a 9 year old in Connecticut he cannot pitch in Little League because he is too good, and just try to smoke (I am a non-smoker) in any public place, including the Philadelphia outdoor stadiums (The Bank & The Linc).
Posted 09:59 AM, 08/27/2008
jwad56
WHY WONT Chicago Annenberg Challenge release their records on OBAMA? Because OBAMA is in bed with admitted terrorists!
Posted 10:04 AM, 08/27/2008
tom - wilmington, de
straight talk...forgive me if I am mistaken, but the fire on the Forestal was started by a misfired Zuni rocket that launched during an electical surge during a switch from external to internal power. The rocket struck a fuel tank on another fighter jet, and this caused the fuel tank to rupture and explode. So, explain how that fire is the fault of John McCain? FYI - from what I understand, the fuel tank that was struck may have been on McCain's jet, but he did not fire the rocket.
Posted 10:13 AM, 08/27/2008
jwad56
Tom - New Jersey is a perfect example of what happens when you let the Democrats in charge of everything. They thinks it's good news the housing market is slow because it's hindering people from moving away. They don't raise taxes anymore - they just institute new fees and raise existing ones. And guess what? Despite all their bluster the rate of uninsured in New Jersey WENT UP even though it dropped in the rest of the country. But don't ask the Democrats to explain that or you will be labeled a racist stupid uninformed McShamist.
Posted 10:15 AM, 08/27/2008
tom - wilmington, de
Did anybody hear about the immigration raid in Mississippi that was prompted by a tip from a union member? A union member turning in illegal immigrants doing work other Americans do not want to do. Go figure.
Posted 10:20 AM, 08/27/2008
JeffA
This board has gotten downright rude and ugly. Is this a Philly thing? Or common? I hope it's the former. What's with you people yapping back and forth about Republicans are this and Democrats are that? Admittedly, I've taken part in some of this, but really, all I read here these past few days is a lot of generalizations. Let's just admit all politicians are garbage and both parties have a lot to answer for and talk about some issues. I'm getting weary.
Posted 10:23 AM, 08/27/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
So let me see if I have this right, McCain has the kind of life (after Vietnam of course) that many of us would aspire to have: he married a wonderful and wealthy wife, both of which have been very successful, and has been able to carve out a great American dream for himself. This is great for him and all of us should be happy about his personal and professional success. McCain's economic plan is to develop the economy so more people that work hard (small businesses) and can achieve a similar level of success. Obama's plan will take away money from those that work for it and spread it around to people that didn't earn it. This is socialism 101 and it's un-American! Look at the facts, every year Americans are setting new records in charitable donations. This is not government programs, these are independent programs controlled by individual Americans that are helping people. This works; government programs do NOT work. Please can you name one for me that does without putting a huge burden on someone else?
Posted 10:25 AM, 08/27/2008
rcif2
All you need to know about Mr Polman is that he was cited by the Columbia Journalism Review as one of the nation's top political reporters. Mr Polman and Keith Olbermann make a lovely couple and do a great job carrying Obama's water.
Posted 10:27 AM, 08/27/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
For those that want McCain to stop talking about his past POW and military experience, why don't you ask Obama to stop talking about being a community organizer? Oh wait, that's right. Then Obama could only talk about his 143 days of experience in the Senate.
Posted 10:30 AM, 08/27/2008
jwad56
Obama does not care if you people make it or not: "Well, Charlie, what I've said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness. " - This is his record.
Posted 10:32 AM, 08/27/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
By the way, documents released Tuesday by the University of Illinois at Chicago shed some light on Barack Obama’s relationship with William Ayers, a founding member of the 1960s and 1970s radical group the Weather Underground. The are about 140 BOXES of records released that show an extensive relationship between Obama and the domestic terrorist William Ayers. http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/26/newly-released-documents-highlight-obamas-relationship-with-ayers/
Posted 10:35 AM, 08/27/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Exactly jwad56!!! Obama view on taxes is a tool to execute "social justice" and redistribute wealth. Not an unfortunate necessity to operate a government. Obama wants to raise taxes; which will yield a crippled economy and expanded government and McCain wants to reduce taxes and government. Obama's tax hike will affect everyone directly or indirectly.
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Posted 10:39 AM, 08/27/2008
tom - wilmington, de
JeffA is right, some on this board have gotten downright mean. I would just like to offer some perspective. On Monday night, Obama said he was in St Louis with the Girardeau family while the screen said he was in Kansas City. Now, has anybody on this board called him less than intelligent or question his mental faculties since he did not seem to know which city he was in at the time? No.
Posted 10:42 AM, 08/27/2008
chredon
I'm going to try to dispel a few myths here. First, Rezko did not buy Obama a house. Obama bought his house beside an empty lot that Rezko bought at the same time, and Obama bought a 10' wide strip of that lot from Rezko, paying a little OVER the fair market price. That's the extent of their land deal. Obama did not direct Rezko $14mill in taxpayer dollars. Obama wrote a letter asking for funding for a $14mill senior center, a worthy project in its own right, for which Rezko was one of the contractors (all of which happened BEFORE Rezko was indicted). So, how many houses has Obama bought with help from a felon? NONE, ZERO. Go to factcheck.org if you don't believe me. If all you GOP defenders of Truth, Justice, and the The American Way would actually take the time to find out what the truth IS, it would certainly make your arguments more interesting, and perhaps even valid.
Posted 10:45 AM, 08/27/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Hey wasn't that a great speech that Hillary gave? The Clintons are having a great convention; Hillary will surely be a front-runner in 2012. How about some of those great things she said about Obama. “Shame on you, Barack Obama. … Enough with the speeches and the big rallies and then using tactics that are right out of Karl Rove’s playbook.” — Feb. 2, 2008 speech “Senator Obama holds up his original opposition to the war on the campaign trail, but he didn’t start working aggressively to end the war until he started running for president. So when he had a chance to act on his speech, he chose silence instead.” — March 17, 2008 speech “Last summer he basically threatened to bomb Pakistan, which I don’t think was a particularly wise position to take.” — Feb 26, 2008 Democratic debate “So you decide which makes more sense: Entrust our country to someone who is ready on day one … or to put America in the hands of someone with little national or international experience, who started running for president the day he arrived in the U.S. Senate.” — Dec. 3, 2007 speech “Well, you know, Senator Obama, it is very difficult having a straight-up debate with you because you never take responsibility for any vote, and that has been a pattern.” — Jan. 21, 2008 Democratic debate “If we don’t have universal health care, we will be betraying the Democratic Party’s principles. … Sen. Obama’s plan does not and cannot cover all Americans.” — Nov 28, 2007 speech “I know Sen. McCain has a lifetime of experience that he will bring to the White House. And Sen. Obama has a speech he gave in 2002.” — March 2008 campaign commercial “Now, I could stand up here and say, ‘Let’s just get everybody together. Let’s get unified.’ The skies will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect.” — Feb. 23, 2008 rally
Posted 10:45 AM, 08/27/2008
pagoda
thelastRepublicaninPhilly- Make sure you don't cash that Social Security check, refuse medicare, and god forbid you lose a job, please do not collect unemployment. Tell your hungry family, while you are losing your home- due to astronomical medical bills, tell them you are a proud Republican picking yourself up by your boot straps.
Posted 10:47 AM, 08/27/2008
jwad56
While you are on factcheck.org also check out about how Obama is lying about the whole "infanticide" issue.
Posted 10:48 AM, 08/27/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
tom - wilmington, de, rock stars never know what city they are in.
Posted 10:51 AM, 08/27/2008
Gibba Mang
BOHICA - Tell me again what McShame has done for my family? That's right, he authorized a war that killed my cousin. And he wants to start another one with Iran before finnishing the job in Iraq or Afghanistan. You would think that a man who was a POW would be a better leader. I'm sorry to say that's not the case. He's worse than Bush.
Posted 10:51 AM, 08/27/2008
jwad56
Want to know how to fix social security? Make it the same as when it started. You don't get benefits until you reach the age of the average life span of an American. I think everyone could get behind that except the Whiner Class and the Freeloader Class.
Posted 10:54 AM, 08/27/2008
jwad56
Thanks Gibba Mang for that nugget. Was your cousin a volunteer? They like to compare Obama to JFK. What was one of his famous quotes? Oh yeah Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country. I guess you will be first in line for Obama's handouts.
Posted 10:55 AM, 08/27/2008
Straight Talk Hawk
Blue Hen Tom: "Electrical malfunction" was the official excuse the Admiral got for his boy McAmnesty. People in the know on board the Forrestal say the disaster was triggered by Juvenile Delinquent McAmnesty gunning his engine (f-rting)on the jet behind him, an antic that is strictly prohibited among jets parked together ready to take off for the obvious (or should be obvious) reason that it jeopardizes the safety of other jets and the ship itself. Why was McAmnesty immediately rescued by his Daddy from angry crew members if he was not responsible? No doubt lots of garbage in those files (Songbird, sexual molestation of subordinates during his one year "command" in Florida, etc.) if we could review them. Why not come clean, "war hero" and release all files? Let's have a complete examination of your claims like we did with the Swiftboat witnesses.
Posted 10:55 AM, 08/27/2008
chredon
Right, Tom. We shouldn't keep trying to tie McCain to Bush, since McCain wasn't a member of the Bush Administration. All McCain did was vote in support of Bush's policies 95% of the time, and reverse his position on taxes and torture to match those of our esteemed President. But OBVIOUSLY, we should tie Obama to Rezko and Ayers, because, you know, they live in the same town and have been in meetings together. The proof that McCain's policies match those of Bush is in the Congressional Record and in his own speeches. The proof that Obama supports domestic terrorism and shady land deals is only in the mind of right-wing conspiracy theorists.
Posted 10:58 AM, 08/27/2008
squintymc
Is there a freaking reason this blog can't post my comments? Let's try again. jwad - cool to be rude about someone's soldier cousin. Really helps make your and the other neocon's points about respecting McCain's service resonate.
Posted 11:02 AM, 08/27/2008
Gibba Mang
jwad56 - my cousin volunteered after 9/11 thinking he would fight AQ and the Taliban. Instead, George Bush and John McShame lied and sent him to die in a war of choice. He was an honorable man who gave his life for his country. McShame and Bush are two cowards in my book. http://www.legacy.com/PHILLY/GB/GuestBookView.aspx?PersonID=96843764
Posted 11:02 AM, 08/27/2008
jjfalcon35
Rezko was an Obama fundraiser and Obama pushed for funds for his slumlord deals. Go to South Chicago and see with your own eyes the dumps those housing projects turned into. That will show you the real Obamas idea of government accountability. So Obama wanted to be a community advocate and the only people he could find to do it were Ayers, Farrakahn and Jeremiah Wright? Give me a break
Posted 11:02 AM, 08/27/2008
chredon
Oh, I'm well aware that Obama's replies on the post-abortion birth issue are 'nuanced.' But the GOP is spinning them out of control, too. Obama does not support killing babies, which is what the GOP seems to be saying. I think people SHOULD check out what factcheck.org says about the issue - a little dose of reality instead of the partisan spin would go a long way to resolving the issue. The problem on this board and dozens of others is that nobody really WANTS the truth, they prefer to continue spouting the lies told by the people they already support. Facts? Who the heck cares about those? As any statistician can tell you, any facts that don't support the conclusion I prefer must be deleted from the sample. That's the fundamental flaw in today's American politics.
Posted 11:03 AM, 08/27/2008
apa279
Polman is a disgusting liberal journalist with an agenda; get Obamma elected. It is sad that I cannot open the Philadelphia Inqurier or Daily News and read some fair and balanced stuff. All of these liberal, wannabe journalists should pay back their salaries, they are misleading the American people. It is disgraceful
Posted 11:03 AM, 08/27/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
pagoda, I'm so glad that you brought this up. I think social security (and Medicare) in it's current state is going to bankrupt America in a generation. This is an accepted fact by almost all economic experts and is a bigger crisis then global warming facing Americas. Most politicians will not touch it. I personally believe that those that are close to retirement should be ensured to receive their payments but for the rest of us that the program should be restructured into "private" accounts that we own; much like a 401k. I have great parents that helped get me thru college so that I was able to put in the time and effort to get an education and get a great job; which has a great health care program. So I'm covered against the losing my house scare tactic; and anyone else that works hard can get it. Also if you call IBX (I ride SEPTA and they've got ads all over the place) you can get healtcare for about $80/month; that cheaper then a lot of cell phone programs. If I lose my job, I won't take uneployment, I prepared for a rainy day and I'll pick up another job; I've got my resume and references all ready to go. Remember that part about paying my dues in education, well as a result I have great job that pays me well and I prepared for the future so my family won't go hungry. Like a good father I will provide the boost my kids will need to succeed. I don't need, nor want, help from the governement in running my life. I also don't want to be forced by the government to pay for someone else. If you vote democrat you're forced to pay for someone else in additon to yourself. THAT'S why I vote republican, that's why I'm supporting McCain and that's why McCain will win.
Posted 11:03 AM, 08/27/2008
tinydancer
Thank goodness there are enough intelligent Americans who will vote for John McCain and put the left wing where it belongs: out in the cold. What are all you left wing (so called) journalists going to do when the Democrats lose yet another presidential election just for being...well, being loopy as usual?k
Posted 11:04 AM, 08/27/2008
jwad56
I wasn't being rude and I am not a neocon. I am an anti-socialist though.
Posted 11:12 AM, 08/27/2008
chredon
Yes, Rezko did donate some money to Obama's campaign - and Obama gave it all to charity as soon as he found out about Rezko's arrest. As for the senior center deal, Rezko never asked Obama to write in support of the center, Obama did that on his own. It was not done as a 'favor,' since it happened before Rezko ever made any donations to an Obama campaign. So what we actually have here are some incredibly loose connections, two people who happen to be connected peripherally to the same project, and the GOP is raising the scandal flag. But there was no collusion, no being in bed together. Compare that to McCain's desire to give oil companies 4 billion dollars in tax breaks after they gave him 1.3 million dollars of campaign donations. Which rises to the higher level of scandal?
Posted 11:12 AM, 08/27/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Gibba Mang, I'm not going to bust your stones. I'm sorry for your loss of your cousin. I can relate to your pain since I had family in there at one point; but I can't share your loss. It does tear at me for every single soldier that gets killed or injured. Never forget that. I support our troops and I support this mission in Iraq and Afghanistan. There are a lot of dangerous people out there. I thank your cousin for making the ultimate sacrifice to keep us safe. I hope you, friends, family and everyone on this string are proud of him. And thank you for you for letting us know about it.
Posted 11:14 AM, 08/27/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
chredon, Obama has a 97% voting record with the democratically controlled senate; which has about an 8% approval rating.
Posted 11:15 AM, 08/27/2008
jjfalcon35
Chedron there is no excuse for not calling a doctor who could save a baby aborted alive. His voice is ON record argiuing against calling a doctor to save a baby aborted alive. No spin, realityhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypDwNpgIUQc
Posted 11:20 AM, 08/27/2008
Gibba Mang
thelastRepublicaninPhilly - the reason why I can't support McCain is because he has already demonstrated to me that he will be as reckless, or moreso, than Bush in getting us into another unnecessary war. You know it and so do I. McCain would be a disaster for America right now.
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Posted 11:21 AM, 08/27/2008
tom - wilmington, de
Gibba, condolences on the loss of your cousin. Since you blame McCain for his vote, then I guess the blame also lays at the feet of Obama's running mate, since Biden also voted for and vigorously supported the war. On Rezko, truth is that Obama could not afford to purchase his house AND the lot next door, which were sold as a package. Was it just a coincidence that Rezko's wife bought the land at full asking price while Obama got the house for well below asking price, then Rezko's wife sold Obama that strip of land for well below market value, thereby taking a loss on the deal? I guess so. And then it was just coincidence that he got that $14 million taxpayer funded grant...was he low bidder on the project? Was there bidding on the project? Obama wrote letters to officials asking them to provide the grant to Rezko, which included $855K in development that went directly to Rezko and his partner. Sure, all mere coincidence. Thank goodness Obama is not a Republican, otherwise it would be just another bit in the culture of corruption.
Posted 11:23 AM, 08/27/2008
77volks
The humorous thing about all of these posters preaching about the Reczko deal is the ignorance of the Keating deal. If you are going to try to bring up support of a corrupt individual, at least watch the back of the person you are trying to defend. Yes, Rezcko is a scumbag but comes no where near Charles Keating. A simple search shows that McCain even violated House rules about taking trips at constituent expense: "After McCain's election to the House in 1982, he and his family made at least nine trips at Keating's expense, three of which were to Keating's Bahamas retreat. McCain did not disclose the trips (as he was required to under House rules) until the scandal broke in 1989. At that point, he paid Keating $13,433 for the flights." Comparing apples to apples shows that Rezko is under indictment for about $20 Mil in Fraud (which in the end we - the taxpayers - will probably end up covering), Keating went to jail as part of a swindle that cost us (the taxpayers) more than $14 Billion when all of the S&L mess was sorted out. Both parties are corrupt but I think I have to side with the lesser of two evils. At least it appears that it won't cost me as much.
Posted 11:23 AM, 08/27/2008
77volks
The humorous thing about all of these posters preaching about the Reczko deal is the ignorance of the Keating deal. If you are going to try to bring up support of a corrupt individual, at least watch the back of the person you are trying to defend. Yes, Rezcko is a scumbag but comes no where near Charles Keating. A simple search shows that McCain even violated House rules about taking trips at constituent expense: "After McCain's election to the House in 1982, he and his family made at least nine trips at Keating's expense, three of which were to Keating's Bahamas retreat. McCain did not disclose the trips (as he was required to under House rules) until the scandal broke in 1989. At that point, he paid Keating $13,433 for the flights." Comparing apples to apples shows that Rezko is under indictment for about $20 Mil in Fraud (which in the end we - the taxpayers - will probably end up covering), Keating went to jail as part of a swindle that cost us (the taxpayers) more than $14 Billion when all of the S&L mess was sorted out. Both parties are corrupt but I think I have to side with the lesser of two evils. At least it appears that it won't cost me as much.
Posted 11:24 AM, 08/27/2008
bon
Liberals seem to have a lot of trouble dealing with a heroic opponent. Maybe, instead of complaining when the subject is brought up, you should try to promote your own candidate's background? You all might not seem so crabby and blindly partisan...
Posted 11:26 AM, 08/27/2008
squintymc
Sure buddy, whatever you say. Here's the skinny, my friends. It's easy to see you are all revved up this morning after the surprising non-suckiness of last night Democratic lovefest. Understandable. In just one night, the Dems have come up with multiple low information snarky sound bite attack lines. Gasp! They better watch out or they'll actually win. The point is, McCain is overplaying his best card. It is August. His primary attack against Obama is 'elitism,' this doesn't fit the narrative. Rezko is one shady dude in the shadiest political city outside of this one. No crime was committed, it was terribly small potatoes, and it's all you've got. Which is why inexperience is a good thing. Less to mine. Oh! But Biden! He's experienced! So true, so true. Who do you all propose go up against him? Seriously, I'd like to hear a suggestion. He's a bit shiny for my liking, and the drug czar nonsense sticks in my craw, but the strengths are pretty obvious. I'm amped for his speech tonight...maybe with a little searching, I can find the original version ahead of time. Zing! See? Saved you the trouble. What does being a community organizer have to do with being President? Organizing people, apparently. That's how he won the primary, and that's how he'll win the general. Doesn't it bother any of you that McCain spent the entire summer spending buckets of money on negative advertising and talk show appearances instead of a ground game? He'll be on public financing in, what, a week? How many doors have you knocked on? Calls? Events? Just being jerks to each on this blog? Great strategy, see you out there. Nothing about the current administration is conservative, Republican, or American. McCain should have stayed himself, but he didn't, and now he's done.
Posted 11:35 AM, 08/27/2008
Gibba Mang
Gibba, condolences on the loss of your cousin. Since you blame McCain for his vote, then I guess the blame also lays at the feet of Obama's running mate, since Biden also voted for and vigorously supported the war. Bush presented Congress with flawed "evidence." What part of reckless don't you understand? McSame has shown he is just as reckless as Bush when it comes to conflict. America can't take another 4 years of Bush/McCain failed policies.
Posted 11:38 AM, 08/27/2008
A Friend
Here's a button, "Can you name the 55th state?" or "Let me tell you why my granny was a typical white person"
Posted 11:39 AM, 08/27/2008
choward2
I think Obama already has a campaign manager, hack!
Posted 11:40 AM, 08/27/2008
jjfalcon35
Well now that we are up to poor McCain judgment 20 yrs ago , I would like to know what Hussein was up to 20 yrs ago We all know
Posted 11:47 AM, 08/27/2008
yobill626
squintymc is right on the money here. You McCainiacs should be REAL worried that McCain has not put together much of a ground game in very many places. I'm guessing he decided to spend his money on negative ads to bring Obama back to him in the polls & help him get more money. He certainly accomplished that, but that ground game is vital to success & takes a lot of time. Just ask Hillary. If she had done this better last Februaury, she'd now be the nominee.
Posted 12:26 PM, 08/27/2008
politicod
I think the Dems should say his service is off limits by the Republicans. It is unpatriotic to be used as a political football, as the Republicans have been using it, and for the first time in years, paint the Republicans as the unpastriotic party who will sully the service of our wounded warriors to get a few extra votes. Nothing should be off limits. I am sick and tired of Democrats sitting idly by as the Republicans play the patriotism card.
Posted 12:37 PM, 08/27/2008
JimR
jjfalcon35, we have a good idea what Hussein was up to 20 years ago. He was up to his eyebrows in American aid because he was our friend against Iran. ( check and see which liberal president was repsonsible for that!) He was prepping for the 'Mother of all battles' against the first president Bush, who didn't deliver the KO punch.
Posted 12:38 PM, 08/27/2008
Mark A. Sadowski
Don't forget that thanks to McCain's involvement in the Keating Savings and Loan scandal more than 21,000 mostly elderly investors lost their life savings. I wonder how they felt about his ten houses (they keep finding more, maybe someone should tell the demented fool where they are) and the fact that Cindy thinks the only way to get around Arizona "is by small private plane" (when they weren't busy hitching a ride on one of Charles Keating's planes).
Posted 12:44 PM, 08/27/2008
Mark A. Sadowski
"The POW get out of any embarrassing questions card, don't leave home without it."
Posted 12:44 PM, 08/27/2008
squintymc
Where did you go, McCainiacs? Jeez, a couple of counter points from the reality based community and you all scram. Weak!
Posted 01:06 PM, 08/27/2008
billbuxlegs
Oh, please! Using the POW experience is somehow a cheap? Nothing is cheaper than this 7 houses attack. The "New Kind of Politician" who worries about the "Republican Attack Machine" is a phony whose bags are being carried by your likes.
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Posted 01:34 PM, 08/27/2008
j l h
My personal favorite is during the primaries he was asked what made him a better choice than Romney, a successful business man, at leading the economy. McCain's answer: POW and Islamic extremism. McCain's opponents don't need to bother with cheapening his service and sacrifices for this country; the man himself has already reduced it to a punchline.
Posted 01:36 PM, 08/27/2008
jjfalcon35
How come McCain was not even indicted for Keating?
Posted 01:36 PM, 08/27/2008
jjfalcon35
How come McCain was not even indicted for Keating?
Posted 01:40 PM, 08/27/2008
abbo
I know a good tactic. The left can sneer at McCain's military service. Mock him for completing his mission even though his plane was crippled and he'd have to crash in enemy territory (what a doofus). Tease him for not being able to raise his arms. (Maybe Obama could challenge him to basketball.) How about when they were going to release him, and he had them release other prisoners instead (any idiot that doesn't know whats in their own interest should never be president). Maybe dems could get together in VC uniforms and poke him with sticks. McCain's response to Leno was completely appropros. The concern stated was that "You have so much wealth, you can't imagine what its like to experience hardship like regular Americans". McCain's response was "I have experienced poverty like you can't imagine.", and "And while amassing wealth is not my thing, I am not ashamed of fortune that Cindy's dad worked really hard to make, I think that opportunity should be available to all Americans"
Posted 01:40 PM, 08/27/2008
Mark A. Sadowski
No you're right we should definitely keep John McCain's military record on the table. Especially how the hotdog couldn't resist f**ting his plane causing the deaths of 134 and maiming of 161 United States seamen, not to mention destroying 21 aircraft and costing the taxpayers $72 million. We should be interviewing all the survivors and the friends and families of his victims. It's definitely fair game.
Posted 01:51 PM, 08/27/2008
JimR
BOHICA, Oh no! – my bad. I never thought that anyone would use such name association to pander to the lowest instincts in politics. I'm starting to sound like some of the lower level posts on this thread.
Posted 01:58 PM, 08/27/2008
JimR
McCain larglely escaped Keating because he was probably the least sullied of the group. ( A lot of Dems in there and both sides were peddling influence) He just got caught up in the slime of the time but the irony is that his public penance was pushing a bill that sought to take away the overt buying and selling of influence in Washington. The same law that makes many conservatives scream.
Posted 01:58 PM, 08/27/2008
abbo
Longshanks, Kerry belittled his own service. To start off with, he only went into the service so he could build his resume to mimic JFK, then he pulled political strings to get some medals. When he got home and realized military service was not chic, he threw away his medals and dishonored our warriors to score political points, and then made up stories of atrocities, falsely testifying under oath in order to score more political points. His testimony dishonored all of the men who died fighting that war and induced the public to despise all of the brave men who returned with their lives. Kerry is a despicable traitor who lives for show. He swiftboated himself. I suppose next you would like to honor Himmler and Ho Chi Minh for their military service. Kerry is hardly comparable to a man like McCain, who has consistently put his mission, and his fellow soldiers, and his country above himself. McCain is far more than some guy that was captured. He was outright heroic in his actions. He is someone that people can aspire to be like.
Posted 02:01 PM, 08/27/2008
thelastRepublicaninPhilly
Mark A. Sadowski, talk all you want about McCain's involvement in Keating 5; But don't forget the other four Democrats involved as well. The major news organizations, FOX, CNN...already did their stories on it. The real criminal is Charles Keating. After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston (D), Dennis DeConcini (D), and Donald Riegle (D) had substantially and improperly interfered with the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB) in its investigation of Lincoln Savings. Senators John Glenn (D) and John McCain (R) were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment". All five of the senators involved served out their terms. Only Glenn and McCain ran for re-election, and they were both re-elected. The fact remains that Glenn and McCain did NOT act improperly. The problem is McCain has been a good senator for many years and is an honorable man that has put his country first. That's why you can't find anything on him. Obama on the other hand, we've discovered dozens of questionable things from Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Born Alive Bill, 143 day experience, to Hillary, to Bill clinton and his VP nomination Biden say he is unqualified to be president. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five
Posted 02:03 PM, 08/27/2008
Texan99
My favorite McCain quip from Leno last night was about Congress's 9% approval rating. He said "That's just down to family members and paid staffers!"
Posted 02:04 PM, 08/27/2008
still_independent
tom: please, please, please go to fact check. Obama paid market value for his home, paid OVER market value for the 10' strip of land (actually, he paid 1/6 of the purchase price of the adjacent lot, as it represented 1/6 of the adjacent property), and Rezko's wife sold the rest of property FOR A PROFIT. Finally, the $14M didn't go to Rezko. He was involved in the development, to the tune of 850k. I have no idea if he was the lowest bidder or not - and neither do you.
Posted 02:04 PM, 08/27/2008
Mark A. Sadowski
Yes,abbo,we should all aspire to be the son of the Admiral of the West Pacific Fleet so that we can get away with murdering our fellow sailors. It's the American dream.
Posted 02:05 PM, 08/27/2008
Gibba Mang
Let's not forget that it was a previous Republican administration who used a retired military Col. Oliver North to sell weapons to Iran in exchange for money to fund the illegal war on the Contras. Gotta love those National Security "values."
Posted 02:07 PM, 08/27/2008
Texan99
From Amanda: "[I]f you can't afford a 4 bedroom house, you better get your self a little 2 bedroom. It's not anyone else's fault that you made a uneducated business transaction by living above your means. I rent because I cannot afford a house right now, therefore I do not have to worry about foreclosures. Think people think... A hand out will not always be available!" Yes, yes, yes! The universe does not guarantee each of us a particular standard of living. We have to adjust to reality; it does not adjust to us.
Posted 02:16 PM, 08/27/2008
abbo
77volks, If you'd actually studied the Keating ordeal. You would realize what an incredibly honorable and ethical man that McCain was. Keating was a long time friend, constituent, and business partner of the McCain's. The McCain's would go vacation with them. When Keating's S&L was getting crippled by purportedly overly-bureaucratic regulatory checks, Keating called two meeting with the Senator's that he knew. He told them that the bureacracy was crippling his ability to do business and killing his company and asked them to influence the regulators to speed up the process. McCain told him that it was absolutely improper to try to influence the regulators, then he went to the regulators, found out Keating was under investigation, and severed all ties with him. The other senators went to bat for Keating. No one even wanted to include McCain in the investigation, but they ended up doing it because they wanted to have at least one republican. McCain was fully exhonerated by the senate, while cranston was given the senates harshest censure. Cranston was beligerant about the senates findings, McCain was deeply apologetic, stating that it was absolutely improper for a government official to even allow a situation where the appearance of corruption is a possibility. This is truly an ethical and honorable man.
Posted 02:23 PM, 08/27/2008
Mark A. Sadowski
If McCain wasn't trying to influence the regulators why did he go to talk to them? Just a social visit? The only reason he dropped tail and ran was he didn't want to get caught up in the investigation. You really got to admire that guy's chracter!
Posted 02:30 PM, 08/27/2008
Gibba Mang
When Keating's S&L was getting crippled by purportedly overly-bureaucratic regulatory checks, Keating called two meeting with the Senator's that he knew. He told them that the bureacracy was crippling his ability to do business and killing his company and asked them to influence the regulators to speed up the process...You need to get your facts straight. The regulations governing S&Ls were actually lessen to allow S&Ls to compete with banks. Most, if not all, of the S&L mess was the result of imprudent and risky loans. Taxpayers bailed out the S&L industry to the tune of 160 BILLION!
Posted 02:50 PM, 08/27/2008
JBCinSD
Tom and Hater miss the point of this article completely, of course. It's not whether McCain has more or fewere houses or money than anyone else. It's not whether his service as a POW was honorable. The point, gentlemen, is that he cheapens his own POW experience by using it as an excsue not to take responsibility for totally unrelated actions. Is his POW experience an excuse, for example, for his dishonest behavior as one of the Keating Five? Of course not. One thing he hasn't blamed on his POW experience and should - his explosive anger and classic symptoms of untreated PTSD. I don't want the finger of an angry old man still re-fighting Vietnam on the nuclear button.
Posted 03:20 PM, 08/27/2008
kjohnsen
Hello geniuses! Can I assume that none of you are millionaires (who probably have more important things to do than post replies to columnists) and therefore stand to gain absolutely nothing from a McCain presidency? Your man is a train wreck, and if you can tear yourself away from this zero-sum conversation, wander over to Youtube, search for "McCain dazed confused" and be dazzled by the rhetorical and intellectual skills of your hero! And if you're unwilling to admit that two separate references to Czechoslovakia would have destroyed any Dem's chances in an election, then you are excused from this thread, and civilized political discourse. No comments until you watch! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWX5u69hmzY
Posted 04:44 PM, 08/27/2008
billbuxlegs
Sadowski, McCain murdered his fellow servicemen when his plane crash landed? I guess all pilots should be trained to crash into the ocean. Mind you, after the crash, he could have gone home to ride out the war. Instead, he volunteered to fly further bombing missions (read Catch 22 to get a liberal view of the insanity that this entails)only to be shot down, bayonetted, broken to the point of near death, tortured for refusing to be a propoganda pawn and finally honorably released and appointed to command of the largest squadron in the Navy thereafter. Murderer? As for Keating, McCain's campaign finance reform bill was designed to prevent such an association from ever happening again. Liberals are a sad lot for attacking Mac's ethics.
Posted 04:53 PM, 08/27/2008
billbuxlegs
Sadowski: By the way, since you are an expert on the candidates' careers, would you please tell me a few things about Obama? 1) what exactly is a "community organizer"; 2) does anybody know anybody else who has ever held such a "job"; 3) how does this job qualify him for the presidency; 4) how does this job qualify him for the US Senate?; 5) how does this job qualify him for anything?
Posted 04:54 PM, 08/27/2008
Mark A. Sadowski
No, McCain gunned his engines needlessly (and against military regulations) on the flightdeck and thus caused the Forrestal incident. He was immediately rushed off the ship to the Oriskany to prevent the rest of the crew from lynching the little hotdog. I suggest you read up on the incident.
Posted 05:05 PM, 08/27/2008
billbuxlegs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-vetscor/2023484/posts Sadowski: You are spreading an urban legend. See what the sailors on the Forrestal say.
Posted 05:10 PM, 08/27/2008
Mark A. Sadowski
And actually I think we do need to correct the myths about his POW internment. Why did the Vietnamese call McCain "Songbird?" The fact is he was never tortured and according to some accounts had access to a TV, pool and a jacuzzi on occasion (why would anyone want to come home?) He did 32 propaganda recordings for the Communists and yet we have no access to the transcripts of these recordings. He was well known as a collaborator by the other POWs and lived with two other defectors. Why did he fight so hard to prevent documents concerning MIA/POWs from being released (both here and in Hanoi)? In my opinion he is the Manchurian Candidate. The Republicans didn't do a good job of vetting their candidate because they couldn't make up their mind until it was too late. Take a gander at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g&NR=1
Posted 05:16 PM, 08/27/2008
Mark A. Sadowski
The real story about what happened on the Forrestal was covered up by Daddy Admiral.
Posted 06:15 PM, 08/27/2008
scott in GA
got to agree. Lately he's been using it like a talking point. McCain served his country with honor and that carries a lotta weight with me but using his service as a crutch is beneath him. I truly believe he's getting terrible input from his advisors.
Posted 06:45 PM, 08/27/2008
p-diddy
Mark S., I'm a Democrat, and I think your post is misinformed and shows your gullibility.
Posted 07:09 PM, 08/27/2008
Mark A. Sadowski
If I'm wrong why won't McCain release all of the records? Hmmmm.
Posted 08:30 PM, 08/27/2008
cberger42970
Saying I am a POW is very similar in fact to what happens when Obama is criticized. In that case it is you know they say I am "black!!!" Oc course when that happens Polman runs and article on race relations and how bigotry is still alive and well.
Posted 08:50 PM, 08/27/2008
Mark A. Sadowski
Except that in McCain's case he is an really an "Uncle Tom" in that he uses the fact that he was a POW as a sheild against any criticism while in fact he was willingly collaborating with his Vietnamese hosts.
Posted 10:51 PM, 08/27/2008
mordechai
McNuckel, People are losing their houses because they bought houses they could not afford. I am not rich by any stretch, but because I am financially responsible and bought a house I could afford, I am able to pay my mortgage every month. I've also voted for Democrats since 1984 but will not vote to put someone who sleeps with Rev. Wright and an unrepentant domestic terrorist, as well as someone who is not qualified to run my company and put them in the White House. Geraldine Ferraro had it right -- if this man were white, he wouldn't be giving his speech at the altar of his humongous ego, the Barackopolis.
Posted 10:55 PM, 08/27/2008
mordechai
billbuxlegs, a "community activist" is someone who generally uses forced donations (see PIRG) or taxpayers money (see ACORN) to push a left wing agenda. I know this because I did this for NCPIRG when I graduated college. You champion poor people and the oppressed and you feel good about yourself, while you are lighting up your bongs and screwing 5 woman who think you are a sensitive liberal. It's a great job...if you can get it:-)
Posted 11:23 PM, 08/27/2008
Mark A. Sadowski
The last time I checked this thread was about John Songbird Mccain. Oh, but I guess I forgot myself. Republicans have a hard time holding a train of thought.
Posted 11:28 PM, 08/27/2008
rah
If I had a choice between a "Noun, a verb, and a POW" and a "Noun, a verb, and a community organizer" I know which one I would pick.
Posted 12:21 AM, 08/28/2008
fbanta
Polman, you sure are hung up on this wealth-envy shtick. The Dems want to paint McCain as being out of touch with the common man because he lives too opulently. They want to paint him as someone who doesn't appreciate or understand the privation of 'the common man'. Yet, when he reminds those same morons that he has put up with more privation and sacrifice than the rest of us can comprehend, you ridicule him. The fact that he suffered three extra years of imprisionment, privation and abuse to respect a code of honor is clearly incomprehensible to you. Character has never been a Democrat strong suit. If McCain gives away all his houses, it still won't buy Obama a whit of experience, a shadow of backbone, or a mote of good judgment. McCain spends five years as a POW; Obama and Ayers spend 5 years piddling away $150 Million in CAC funds with absolutely nothing to show for it (in the closest example he has of executive experience). And you want to turn the keys over to Obama? "Whataya stupid?"
Posted 01:58 AM, 08/28/2008
Mark A. Sadowski
McCain demonstrated loads of character. Forget the Keating Savings and Loan scandal, the USS Forrestal incident, his years as a collaborator with the Vietnamese Communists. Instead let us focus on what he did to his crippled wife after he was released from the Hanoi Hilton. He decided to fraternize with subbordinates (against regulations) and eventually marry a rich heiress. But who could blame him. He was the "Crown Prince" as the Vietcong referred to him. John McCain's future was more important than country, family or character.
Posted 02:50 AM, 08/28/2008
billbuxlegs
Mordechai: Thanks for clarifying for me just what it is that a community organizer does. He screws other people is, I believe, the jist. As for Mr. Sadowski, please advise what definition you would apply to "community organizer" and please answer the questions instead of plying more left wing fantasy propaganda about cover ups and missing tape recording of conspiring with the enemy which could never be proved and couldn't possibly be covered up given the numbers of people who would have to remain silent (and give up a big New York Times or CBS paycheck to sell the stories). Listen to the other residents at Hanoi Hilton about McCain, and not to Oliver Stone wannabes.
Posted 01:52 PM, 08/28/2008
rconiglio
Based on everything I've read Mr. Polman you are obviously a man with a mission. Get BHO elected. Actually throw Tony Auth and your editorial board with you. McCain's POW is part of his life experience. There is nothing wrong with him speaking of it. I notice you reference the Keating scandal, one in which 1 Dem was severly reprimanded, 2 Dems acted improperly and John McCain and John Glenn - Dem Ohio were ONLY criticized for poor judgement. Now the biggest accomplishment we hear about BHO is he paid his college loan. Wow now that is an accomplishment! With these great acts like I can see why you want him to him to be President. Hey do not forget to get that Elect BHO pin before they sell out.
Posted 05:37 PM, 08/28/2008
susang
The issue to me is that John McCain, who has been known for his good character is playing the political game. I was looking forward to a "gentleman's" campaign but it seems that Carl Rove and the other Republican advisors are reverting to their old tactics and McCain is selling out. McCain's wife is rich and everyone knows it. Why should he be ashamed of that? Why couldn't he just acknowledge that he had 7 houses without thinking about how it will sound? He got where he is by being honest and not pandering but he seems like he's just another player in the age old game of nasty politics. ..One more thing Obamahater needs to get a new name- that one makes him seem like a narrowminded opinionated bigot.
Posted 12:03 AM, 08/29/2008
Mark A. Sadowski
The important thing to remember about this thread is that it is all about John Songbird McCain. His failures of character, his failures of judgement, And don't foget his failures of intelligence (894 out of 899 in a class). We need to keep hammering home on how he is a complete and utterly frustrated angry mentally incompitent failure of a midget and will never get the support of the huge American heart. He represents the American nightmare not the American Dream.
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Cited by the Columbia Journalism Review as one of the nation's top political reporters, and lauded by the ABC News political website as "one of the finest political journalists of his generation," Dick Polman is a national political columnist at the Philadelphia Inquirer. He is on the full-time faculty at the University of Pennsylvania, as "writer in residence." Dick has been a frequent guest on C-Span, MSNBC, CNN, NPR and the BBC. He covered the 1992, 1996, 2000, and 2004 presidential campaigns.

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