Post a commentYes great, but with the new "program" houses were grossly over valued even during peak market value. Row homes built in 1929 in my neighborhood at $350,000 when they are selling for $285,000. That means being over axed by $650 annually based on real world numbers.
Property assessments dont see interiors and that drives sales figures.
Its a scam no matter what, someone is making a judgement based on driving up & looking at your sidewalk, sides, windows etc and taking the most expensive sale price for the houses in the are from BEFORE THE RECESSION/DEPRESSION. No need to mince words, our household income is down 35% and the city govs income and ability to meet expenses is down too-but continue to implement taxes that have nothing to do with real market vlaues in a depression, tax based on obsolete values. Want to buy some Madoff investments- no, then why use obsolete information for valuation of homes? CURRENT REAL WORLD VALUES!!!
The BRT clowns should be fired immediately and forfeit their pensions for the fraud they have perpetrated on the city for years! Russell Nigro especially should be pillaried!
The patronage idiots on the school district payroll should be accorded the same treatment. They are a disgrace to the species!!!!
Well, the residential numbers would not be so bad if it was 2006; but the bubble has burst, and the commercial numbers were no where close to real. Good values are done everywhere in this country, they can be done here too.
Council wants to tie Nutter's hands as much as possible, but they have to let the elected executive work. Voters are electing better managers than ever before as more and more Philly residents are moving in with college degrees and normal expectations of functioning government. Council is the anti-change agent that keeps Philly backwards and rooted in a corrupt patronage system that fails Democrats and guarantees that the FBI will continue to be the fifth branch of local Philly Democrat government.
Steel, that's why AVI works. You have an annual property tax assessment based on objective market data -- sales prices. Your assessment fluctuates accordingly.
Kenney as much as admits above that party patronage workers are fixers who fix assessments for the connected as favors for working for the pols. This is illegal. Council just doesn't get it. The FBI has to step in here. Look at the Fumo assessment on his Spring Garden mansion. Fumo was just one of hundreds of party members low to high up who get a break on their assessment by going to the patronage board to appeal and stating "I work for the party so let me pay $700 less than my neighbors." I witnessed this first hand when I appealed my own property. The neighbors who volunteer for the local Dems expect a big discount on their property taxes, and that the BRT and Council defends this practice is theft of municipal services that are meant to apply equally to every taxpayer without special concessions to one party or another.
Assessors should be "problem solvers" for all residents, not just for party members. If you did an analysis of members of the Democratic party, and those with lower than market value assessment, you'd see a statistically significant skew towards low assessments for party workers and political cronies. Fumo was just one example of a system of low assessments and non collection for free political work. Kids, this is illegal. It is a violation of federal law.
The only reason to eliminate the BRT is to allow the mayor to increase real estate taxes. The Mayor would then control the assessment process. Does anybody expect taxes to go down? Sunday's Inquirer noted taxes on a house valued $140,000 taxed at $8,100 in Cherry Hill. The City is nowhere near these numbers.
City Council should NOT APPROVE this bill since it will mean higher taxes. Once those taxes appear there will be no BRT for Council and the Mayor to blame. They will then be responsible.
sorry anti-tax.....this is not about taxes going down. taxes are going up and all of this is to make you more comfortable with the figure you end up with. if people think the process is fair(er?) then when taxes go up throughout the city there is less chance residents will petition the state to takeover the process. BRT or no BRT your taxes are going up...is there anyone who doesnt know this?
why on earth is the BRT in charge of implementing AVI?....if the problem is corruption in the BRT and a broken assessment process that benefits the crooks at the BRT, does it seem likely that they will try hard to implement a new system that makes them and their stolen salaries disappear? or is it more likely that the BRT crooks will continue to delay the AVI system with excuses for why its taking so long....all the while they are still collecting checks? to me this enitre story seems like a smokescreen. they will meet a lot, talk a lot, and even propose bill after bill....nothing will change because too many political friends will get their toes stepped on if the BRT go bye-bye
How come there is no mention of property tax relief from legalized gambling? Wasn't that one of the selling points for its legalization? Well Sugarhouse is going up and so are property taxes apparently.
I'm amazed that how dumb ppl are, I guess thats why the same party wins evey election all the time..After reading all of these comments I'm even more amazed, if these workers bring in 600 million and it only cost 4 million,I guess you genius don't see the profit, personaly I don't care if they clean Nutter's feet , but lets face it there is NO OTHER AGENCY IN PHILADELPHIA THAT BRINGS IN MONEY.. Helen Gym like Green told you, if there removed from the school board budget, the schools ARE NOT going to get that money...You better keep, you efforts now on the casions another battle you fought, and maybe the rest of these idoits will have a forum, to moan about, and not know nothing about... Keep voting Democrat, you dopes
vickki either doesnt get it or gets it fine and is a BRT worker....tax assessment is broken and must be fixed, the board at the BRT is corrupt and must be abolished and replaced. if they bring in 600 million while letting their political buddies owe another 500 million is it worth it to the city to keep the present system in place?....well of course it is if you are one of the workers and/or a politician who benefits from having his house taxed at a rate from 1932...wake up
The taxpayer has to invite an assessor to view the interior of a home,steelmanpa. Why does Cleanupphilly hog up all the comments
space? Does he or she have a job? I read where he seems to put
words in Councilman Kenny's mouth. In the USA you have the right
of free speech, but should have the fortitude to identify yourself,
since the BRT has impact on our lives. Still, I urge CLEANUP to run
for office, like Kenney. I will write a check for his/her campaign,
ONCE we know what civic accomplishments he/she has accomplished in cleaning up the city (complaining not included).
This is ridiculous. This is just plain NUTS! Turn the whole process of actual property valuation over to a company like Zillow or Homebuyers.com. The database already exists and it's based on most recent market sales. Sure their will be some tweaking, but nothing that could ever take another 1 and 1/2 years. Plus, I GUARANTEE that a Zillow or Homebuyers valuation system would be far, far cheaper and far more equitable than the mess that exists now. One BIG problem though...nobody would get greased and that's why it'll never ever happen. This is, after all, Philadelphia...Home of Pay to Play.
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