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Letters to the Editor

Same-sex unions

are unnatural

Re: "Gay marriage: Yes or no?", Sunday:

David Boies contends that same-sex marriage is a fundamental right under the U.S. Constitution. A close reading of the Constitution will reveal that nowhere does it address marriage, much less homosexuality.

The argument by advocates of homosexual marriages - that their goal of equality of rights is analogous to those of African Americans and women - is specious. Those long-denied civil rights were rights that are natural to all persons.

Religious beliefs aside, the proposition that homosexual couplings are normal human behavior is demonstrably fallacious. History shows us that almost all human sexual relationships have been between a man and a woman. No reasonable person can deny the natural, physiologically complementary differences between the sexes. Same-sex unions, incapable of natural copulation and the possibility of generation are, by that fact, abnormal. Further, if marriage for homosexuals is acknowledged as a civil right, then by what twist of reasoning should not polygamy, polyandry, or pederasty also be condoned?

Undoubtedly, most same-sex couples are good people who contribute much to society and who rear their children to love and respect others, but the fact remains that their lifestyles are not in accord with nature, and no amount of rationalization can change that.

William J. Swety

Schwenksville

Call it what

it is: Marriage

Because supporters of gay marriage insist on the term marriage, Glenn T. Stanton concludes that "the real issue for same-sex marriage advocates is actually definition, not access." In the real world, however, definition is access in this case ("Gay marriage: Yes or no?").

When you say you have a domestic partnership (or a civil union), people don't know what that means. They may assume it's little more than ceremonial, or they may assume it's a contract that confers all the legal rights of marriage minus the name. It is neither. It's actually a confusing hybrid of those two assumptions, differing from state to state, and not recognized at all federally. It requires extra interaction with lawyers and other professionals just to cobble together some semblance of the rights that heterosexual married couples take for granted. It is, in many ways, undignified.

Call it marriage, and your hospitals and schools and friends and neighbors and coworkers know exactly how to treat you, without having to look up the details. That is access; and that is dignity.

Tom Demi

Newtown

A bright future

for light rail

A letter claiming $500 million is too much money to build a surface trolley line on Market Street may be right, especially in light of existing routes and infrastructure ("Better uses for money than trolley," Thursday).

That said, the opportunity to reconnect treasures such as the convention center, zoo, stadium complex, historic areas, airport, and more by trolley may be just the kind of economic boost Philadelphia needs for its future and may be worth a closer look.

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Posted 04:10 AM, 11/04/2009
Ken K
Anything goes, David, right?
Posted 07:54 AM, 11/04/2009
ol cranky
Mr Swety: can you please show me an example of the granting of marriage licenses and provision of some sort of benefits based solely on marital status that occurs in nature? Homosexuality does occur in nature, so it is less unnatural than marriage is. Based on your comments, it's homosexuality that should be socially acceptable, not marriage. In other words your argument is an epic fail
Posted 09:29 AM, 11/04/2009
jgribbin
Mr. Swety, Your letter fails to mention that the U.S. Constitution is a living document that has been amended over 25 times in the course of our history. Amendments to the Constitution have abolished slavery (XIII), granted women the right to vote (XIX) and repealed prohibition (XXI). Obviously, these amendments were added to make the Constitution a more perfect document reflecting the will of the people. The Constitution also separates church from state so religious grounds for banning same sex marriages should not be mentioned. Homosexual attraction is not restricted to humans but is found throughout many species so your "natural vs. unnatural" assertion is not scientifically accurate. Finally, your comparisons to pederasty and polygamy reveal an attempt to link homosexuality with criminality causes any reasonable reader to wince at this illogical slander. Thankfully, more and more Americans are abandoning your biases and are recognizing the legitimate rights of gay and lesbian couples to marry and seek happiness.
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Posted 03:27 PM, 11/04/2009
bmmg39
I never quite understood how allowing gays and lesbians to marry would have any sort of adverse effect on my parents' marriage, or anyone else's.
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Posted 09:03 PM, 11/04/2009
drklassen
@mensaman: You and Swety are sadly lacking in scientific knowledge of what is and isn't natural in the animal kingdom. Allow me to help (oh, and Google would have been your friend). http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html http://www.springerlink.com/content/t18t2213605303j7/ http://www.springerlink.com/content/n52035222n183628/ Need I go on? As for tying marriage to sexuality or procreation, neither of these are a requirement for the contract of marriage. Thus, denying gay marriage simply flies in the face of the equal protection clause. As for the comparison to underage unions, the argument is simply ignorant of the concept of legal consent. Minors can't sign contracts ergo they can't get married. As for poly-marriage, well, the comparison also falls flat since marriage is a well-defined, two-person, contract. I have no problem with folks who wish to enter into multi-person unions, but as the marriage contract is not well suited for them, they are better off designing their own contract.
Posted 09:07 PM, 11/04/2009
mergendeiler
It is William Swety's logic that is fallacious. If marriage is not a civil right, why the big panicked rush to get a denial of it to a certain social group on the ballot? Denying marriage to people based on the kind of sex they're presumed to have is just plain hypocritical. Heterosexual marriages run the sexual gamut, and not to acknowledge that fact is morally dishonest. I dare anyone to get bans on divorce, adultery, and out-of-wedlock childbirth on the ballot.
Posted 11:33 PM, 11/04/2009
psysim
"Same sex marriage", "Man-Boy marriage", "Transexual marriage" -- What's next?
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Posted 11:22 PM, 11/05/2009
Ben9
Seems to me the upside of being gay would be that you DON'T have to deal with all that wedding B.S.--Bridezilla, the clown outfits, the huge expense, RSVPs, the Chicken Dance, the in-laws, etc. My guess is that most lesbians want it, most gay men don't. To Mensaman, whose friend "happens to be" an anthropologist: Anthropologists study humans, not other animals. Apparently he's unaware of animals that actually change gender, among other "unnatural" occurences. To Psysim, who asks, "What's next?" How 'bout "Government outta the marriage biz"?
Posted 07:52 AM, 11/21/2009
drklassen
@Ben9: No, how about religions out of the marriage business. Marriage is the civil contract; let the churches go back to the business of their own religious unions.
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