Editor's note: Quite a few visitors typed in their nominee's name instead of their own.

Jonathan Storm: Hello after a couple of weeks away. At least nobody, so far, wants to vote us off the TV, but there does seem to be a lot of anger out there.

Ellen Gray: Yep. I was kind of shocked, actually, by the venom. So let's get to some of the comments.

Rachel Ray: Yummo & EVOO make me want to vomit when I hear her utter those stupid words. That and her little cackle. How about yuck-o!

Oprah: Rachel Ray out of my kitchen!

Sam in Cherry Hill: rachel ray. insincere and uninformed. why is she all over the tube?

Rachel Ray: She has to be the most annoying person on t.v. bad hands always moving,  poor dresser, bad hair.Used to really like her,but forgetta about it now.

Ellen: This one confuses me a little, since I don't see much daytime TV (being too busy typing away about nighttime TV most of the time) and so I mostly know Ray from the Dunkin Donuts commercials. Where, I'll admit, she's pretty damn annoying. But still...

Jonathan: I think Rachel is cute and perky. But she seems very down on herself, here.

bklyntransplant: Rachel = lowest common denominator of American cooking. "No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- Mencken

Ellen: Mencken and Rachel Ray have probably never been mentioned together in the same sentence. Are we upscale or what?

Jordan: Ellen Pompeo gets my vote. It's easier to accept a polar bear on a tropical island than it is to see all these men fall for her. It's TV's version of Knocked Up -- only less funny and observant.

bklyntransplant: Can't imagine how they'd pull this off, but Meredith Grey is getting waaaaay anoying on Grey's Anatomy IMHO

Jonathan: I think Ellen Pompeo is cute and perky. Oh wait, I already said that.

Jonathan: Actually, I can't imagine why anyone watches Grey's Anatomy at all.

Ellen: It's not the first time I've hated a show's main character and continued watching for the supporting cast (though the cast is looking worse by the minute). I think Meredith is the new Ally McBeal in that way. And perhaps in others. 

Jonathan: Oh, no! I *loved* Ally.

Ellen: Of course you did.

EFD: What a lame way to get Sara off the show. No way would she have done that if she was a real person.

Stan Givens: I loved the Sara Sidle on CSI; I'd get rid of Eckley.

Jonathan: Who's Eckley?

Poppa Winks: The clown that plays Hodges on CSI should follow Sara Sidle out the door. He is a "butt kisser" & lousy actor.

CSI-ite: eckley is the icky character of the show-- creepy dude 

Jonathan: I can't keep their names straight on CSI. I just know them by what they look like, or their real names, like Marge Helgenberger. I love CSI because you don't have to know all their names. And for lots of other reasons, too, especially the William Peterson character, whose name is Grissom.

Ellen: The nice thing about a big ensemble show is that you can get rid of people without the whole show going down the tubes. Though they probably don't want to screw with William Peterson's contract.

PG: The character is SUPPOSED to be a butt-kisser, but as for the actor, he's always bugged me, even way back when he played a writer on the Larry Sanders show.

bklyntransplant: Jonathan, Too bad there's no one cute and perky on CSI -- You'd remember her name!

Ellen: Funny, I'm from Brooklyn, too, and I was about to say the same thing.

Jonathan: Oh, you mean Sara Sidle, played by Jorja Fox? Now she's *not there* and I'm pissed!

Ellen: Was Sara ever perky? She always seemed depressed to me.

Jonathan: Who is this Ecklie guy? I can't even recognize him after seeing his picture.

Jonathan: Yes, wonderfully thoughtful and depressed, with that strangely attractive face.

Ellen: I think everyone on that show needs to get out in the sunshine occasionally. On the other hand, David Caruso, on the CSI show I hate the most, probably could stand to work more nights. Such pale skin for a Floridian.

PG: David Caruso as Horatio Caine on "CSI: Miami." I stopped watching it years ago because he's such a pompous *bleep*, always with the "gotcha line" and peering over those glasses and the silly tilt of his head. Blech.

Deborah Sullivan: Horatio Kane/David Caruso...awful character/dreadful actor.

PG: Ecklie is the anti-Grissom who shows up every few weeks to be a smarmy pain in the rear, hoping to get the night crew in trouble.

Ellen: No argument here.

Jonathan: Oh, that guy! HATE him!

Ellen: I'm a Caruso hater from way back.

Jonathan: Yeah, me too. I thought he was a snot-head when he was on NYPD Blue.

bklyntransplant: Remember when Caruso self-destructed on NYPD Blue? Egotistic fool.

Ellen: The funny thing is that when he was on Blue, at least the first season, I actually thought he was a good actor. Which just shows how important writers are to the whole process -- David Milch made that guy shine.

Bob: I have better things in life, than answer some stupid question so your site can say ,We have the BIG STORY.

uh: It is sad that anyone spends anytime watching this garbage let alone chat about it.

Ellen: Hope we're not keeping you from something really important -- the Mideast peace conference isn't going too well, I hear. If you want to get on that, we can wait. Really.

Jonathan: Don't you love people who disprove thier point as soon as they open their mouth?

Ellen: I prefer to think our chats are irresistible.

bklyntransplant: Ellen, Thanks for reminding us about the writers. They are struggling for their rights as we write.

Dan S.: JORJA FOX was the main reason I watched CSI! Can't stand Marg Hellenberger; she should have been the one to go.

Jonathan: Marg is fine, but I loved Jorja too. I'm having a hard time typing through my tears now she's gone.

Ellen: In fairness, I think Jorja went on her own, didn't she? Marg didn't volunteer.

philliegirl: I just want those Christmas car comercials to go away. I can't afford to put gas in a hooptie let alone buy a new car for myself and put a red bow on the top. Duh!

Jonathan: I just did some routine repairs on my 13-year-old car: $800. That's enough money for me, thank you.

Ellen: Couldn't agree more. Saw a Lexus commercial the other night where the message was that you should get one for your spouse. Now this is mass-marketing, folks, not an ad in Forbes. Just how many of us do they think have that kind of money? We buy a car every eight to 10 years in my house, and it's not something that coincides with Christmas.

Ellen: Though if someone left a Prius under the tree, I wouldn't send it back.

Jonathan: My buying a "new" car coincides with my old one dying. Guess we're hopelessly out of the main stream.

Jonathan: Plus, we haven't gotten a raise in about 5 years.

Brian Goulstone: Boot off anyone that vouluntarily signs up for a reality show (home makeover, competition, nanny show, etc) and then complains about the requirements of the same show. "Whaddya mean Super Nanny is going to berate me on national tv about spanking?; "I know the shows called The Amazing RACE, but do I really have to RUN?").

Jonathan: Yeah. That really bugged me when some whiny parent of a Kid Nation participant complained that her daughter got burned by grease in the kitchen. I've had worse sunburns.

Ellen: I know what you mean -- I like the Amazing Race, but I have no desire to actually run it. I like strolling through foreign places, maybe sitting in cafes watching the locals rush by while I'm on vacation with nowhere important to go. So I know I'd make a lousy contestant.

philliegirl: I took 3 pay cuts since 9/11 just to keep a job! Just give me Charlie Brown and the Grinch. I don't need to be reminded that I couldn't afford any of those Mcmansions people are losing let alone the diamonds, cars, and big screen TVs.

Jonathan: It's one of the few places in life where a 60-year-old can look at something and actually see what it means to be 60, like you have *no chance* to beat these young people, even if they are all way stupider than you.

Michael: OK, so it's holiday season and there are a million and one specials. What are your personal favorite holiday broadcasts?

Jonathan: I hate 'em all.

Jonathan: Except maybe, "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown."

Ellen: Well, philliegirl just mentioned my favorite, A Charlie Brown Christmas, which I watched for like the, what, 40somethingth year the other night. With my younger son, who humors me, and our beagle, who's so far refused to learn to skate.

Jonathan: The Peanuts things never get old.

Jonathan: You have a beagle?

Ellen: When Linus explains the true meaning of Christmas, I always cry.

Jonathan: Awwww.

Jonathan: I cry whenever David Caruso comes on the screen.

Ellen: A beagle named Emmy. Who came from the shelter with that name. I would never name a dog after an awards show that lame.

Jonathan: We changed out dog's name when we got him. It had been "Buddy."

Ellen: You got the Clintons' dog? Wow.

boomfoxx: You've got a Heroes character in mind? I have 2. The Mexican brother/sister pair who have the most boring storyline going on.

Dom: "Heroes" certainly could use a house cleaning. Is there such a thing as too many heroes lol? Anyway, good start with offing Maya's brother. Next one is Maya and her mascara bleeding eyes. Dumb

Ellen: I chose David Anders, the guy who played Takezo Kensei in those 16th century Japan segments we all hated. And now it turns out he's like immortal (unless you shoot him in the head) and he's messing around in the present. Hate him.

Jonathan: (That was one reason we changed "Buddy's" name. Now it's Woody.)

Ellen: I'll admit I don't like the Maya storyline very much, but I did like the idea that this show that's so diverse had finally discovered Latinos. But the eye thing is really annoying.

Jonathan: Maybe they could get Sarah Michelle Gellar to come in and stake that immortal between the eyes.

Ellen: Even she's not been as interesting in Heroes as I expected. Her narrative of Gossip Girl is actually better. Though you don't get to see her.

Jonathan: She was Buffy, not Veronica Mars. Veronica would tape record the guy with some incriminating evidence and make him go away.

Ellen: You're right. I had a blonde moment.

Jonathan: Kristen Bell is Veronica/Narrator. Both Kristen and Sarah are perky and hot.

Jamie: i don't think heroes needs to lose characters - just learn that it doesn't need to use them all in an episode - a la Lost.

Jonathan: Just like me.

Ellen: Well, it all comes back to the writing. And Lost hasn't always played well with its crowd. Remember how annoyed people were with those episodes that dealt so much with The Others? It's a constant balancing act, and I'll admit that few of us take the long view anymore.

TV Guy: L & O always found great ways to make their characters go away, car wrecks, bodies in trunk, even getting fired. If you are going to lose a character, make it stand out, not a lame-o walk away, i'm burned out.

Jonathan: Yes, but Sara was so soulful. She just had to walk away.

Ellen: You didn't think it made working in law enforcement look even more dangerous than it is?

bklyntransplant: [As Jonathan raises the stakes from perky to hot]

Ellen: Plus, Dick Wolf used to kill characters because actors wanted raises, not because it worked dramatically.

Jonathan: Yeah, the heck with perky. Dump Kelly Ripa while you're at it.

bklyntransplant: Regis -- I thought he was an animatron now

Ellen: Is Jon perky or hot? Is that what you're asking? Because I need some other options.

janet: Dawn Stenslend, Dave Roberts... I miss Jimbo. Get rid of all the news people except Beasley, Ukie, and Kathy Orr.

Alicia Lane: At first she came across as this sweet young victim of divorce. Now she just seems full of herself.

Jonathan: Kathy Orr is *way* too perky.

Jonathan: And, Alycia can't even spell her own name.

Ellen: Let's make it clear, first, that Alycia did not nominate herself (at least I don't think so). Personally, I hate it that we even know about her divorce, but I can't blame Dan Gross and Mike Klein for this one, since her crying on Dr. Phil's shoulder was a sweeps stunt, injecting an anchor's personal life into the newscast. Bad karma that.

Jonathan: I think they should clone Larry Mendte's hair. Whoever knew he was related to Strom Thurmond?

Ellen: Still, as long as she can read the TelePromTer as well as anyone else in town, I don't see a problem.

Jonathan: Because of his hair....

Ellen: Lots of people seem to be related to Strom. Though I'm not sure I'd brag about it if I were.

Jonathan: It's a joke, see. Larry and Strom both use Tang to color their hair.

Ellen: Barack Obama's apparently getting some mileage out of being Dick Cheney's cousin, I understand. Calling him the black sheep of the family.

Jonathan: Yeah. Sadly, we're all in this together.

Ellen: BTW, Janet -- by Jimbo, do you mean Jim O'Brien? I think lots of people miss him. And if he'd lived, I'm sure he'd still be at Channel 6, which doesn't seem to mind keeping the faces familliar.

Jonathan: Those guys are old, aren't they?

Mick: I wish they would get the sexual needs commercials off all channels. My kids do not need to see or hear about "smiling Bob" or anything to do with penile creams and such. Pathetic.

Ellen: I'm not sure I ever heard it called "smiling Bob" before. But I hear you. The one that gets me is the couple with the side-by-side bathtubs, outside. People our age not only don't have sex outside, but we're too old to be hauling those bathtubs...

Jonathan: I am unfamiliar with this Smiling Bob. Is it a person or .... something else?

Jonathan: I know SpongeBob.

Ellen: You would prefer "Smiling Jonathan"?

Jonathan: Well, I'm not smiling now, because it's time to end another chat. Thanks for all your interest. We'll be back again next Thursday with some other hard-hitting topic.

Ellen: And if you have nothing better to do -- and thanks to all of you who, like us, don't -- we'll be thrilled to see you.